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2012-04-04 01:31:34 PM  
This flimflammery by the scienticians has my humours unbalanced. I'm so full of phlogiston it's making my phrenologist apoplectic.
 
2012-04-04 01:37:45 PM  
This is why Tennessee can't have nice things.
 
2012-04-04 01:38:02 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: This flimflammery by the scienticians has my humours unbalanced. I'm so full of phlogiston it's making my phrenologist apoplectic.


Phrenologist? You should see an alchemist for more traditional, reasonable medical treatments.
 
2012-04-04 01:46:21 PM  
"What the bill says is that as long as you stick to objective scientific facts

... So, there still won't be talk of anything other than evolution, then?
 
2012-04-04 01:46:43 PM  
I've said it before but it could use some repeating... there seems to be great overlap between the anti-evolution crowd and people who think we shouldn't bring up racism because slavery ended and civil rights got resolved so long ago. But obviously the anti-evolutionist are not over the scopes monkey trial which happened over 40 years earlier than the Civil Rights Act.

Black people should not start getting over segregation any earlier than 40 years after evangelicals start getting over the teaching of evolution in our schools.
 
2012-04-04 01:58:39 PM  
This controversy looks like the reverse of the money trial. Back then they tried to punish teachers for teaching evolution. Today, they want to punish teachers for allowing students to criticize evolution. It's sad that they have to pass a bill like this to protect academic freedom in the classroom.
 
2012-04-04 02:09:23 PM  
Hmm...I'm an admissions teacher at a university and I see two candidates, one raised in Tennessee by bible-thumpers, the other raised in California by relatively sane people...who do I admit? Decisions, decisions...
 
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2012-04-04 02:11:51 PM  

SkinnyHead: This controversy looks like the reverse of the money trial. Back then they tried to punish teachers for teaching evolution. Today, they want to punish teachers for allowing students to criticize evolution. It's sad that they have to pass a bill like this to protect academic freedom in the classroom.


I think they need a bill like this for history class. If you think that George Washington was the first president of the USA that's like, just your opinion.

I could have had fun with this in school.
 
2012-04-04 02:13:28 PM  

vpb: I think they need a bill like this for history class. If you think that George Washington was the first president of the USA that's like, just your opinion.


And what's all this I hear about 1+1 equaling 2? That sounds like devil's talk to me.
 
2012-04-04 02:13:51 PM  
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2012-04-04 02:16:30 PM  
Suck it round Earthers!
 
2012-04-04 02:34:31 PM  
The Flat Earth Society is meeting here today.
With their candle sticks and compasses...
 
2012-04-04 02:36:33 PM  

kbronsito: I've said it before but it could use some repeating... there seems to be great overlap between the anti-evolution crowd and people who think we shouldn't bring up racism because slavery ended and civil rights got resolved so long ago. But obviously the anti-evolutionist are not over the scopes monkey trial which happened over 40 years earlier than the Civil Rights Act.

Black people should not start getting over segregation any earlier than 40 years after evangelicals start getting over the teaching of evolution in our schools.


Actually, Scopes was using evolution to teach racism and white supremacy. The evolutionary biology book he was teaching from described the white race as "the highest type of all, the caucasians, represented by the civilized white inhabitants of Europe and America."
 
2012-04-04 02:40:33 PM  
Paging Jackson Herring... Please pick up the white image macro phone.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-04-04 02:41:58 PM  

SkinnyHead: kbronsito: I've said it before but it could use some repeating... there seems to be great overlap between the anti-evolution crowd and people who think we shouldn't bring up racism because slavery ended and civil rights got resolved so long ago. But obviously the anti-evolutionist are not over the scopes monkey trial which happened over 40 years earlier than the Civil Rights Act.

Black people should not start getting over segregation any earlier than 40 years after evangelicals start getting over the teaching of evolution in our schools.

Actually, Scopes was using evolution to teach racism and white supremacy. The evolutionary biology book he was teaching from described the white race as "the highest type of all, the caucasians, represented by the civilized white inhabitants of Europe and America."


Then what's the problem? Most evangelicals I know still believe that.
 
2012-04-04 02:47:49 PM  

gopher321: Hmm...I'm an admissions teacher at a university and I see two candidates, one raised in Tennessee by bible-thumpers, the other raised in California by relatively sane people...who do I admit? Decisions, decisions...


The gay, minority with disabilities, of course. Duh.
 
2012-04-04 02:47:51 PM  

SkinnyHead: This controversy looks like the reverse of the money trial. Back then they tried to punish teachers for teaching evolution. Today, they want to punish teachers for allowing students to criticize evolution. It's sad that they have to pass a bill like this to protect academic freedom in the classroom.


Yes, it's important to allow children to dismiss scientific fact without reason or basis beyond the entirely disproven superstitions of their parents.

It's it frustrating when the stupid, wrong shiat they fed you as a child gets called out when you're an adult? They should make that illegal.

By the way, the Scopes trial ended with fundies SUCCEEDING in punishing a teacher for teaching evolution.
 
2012-04-04 02:48:37 PM  
"What the bill says is that as long as you stick to objective scientific facts, then you can bring that into play," the Knoxville Republican said. "So if students start asking questions or if there's debate on it, it's not a one-sided debate. But it is a fair debate, in that it's objective scientific facts that are brought forward."

So... you think that if a student brings up ID, they'll have some sort of "objective scientific facts" to bring forward?
 
2012-04-04 02:50:23 PM  

vpb: Then what's the problem? Most evangelicals I know still believe that.


People who believe in creation are more likely to accept the fact that all men are created equal.
 
2012-04-04 03:08:57 PM  

keylock71: Paging Jackson Herring... Please pick up the white image macro phone.


NO! The white phone!
 
2012-04-04 03:12:20 PM  
Given the mountain of case law, it's not possible.

They are really failing by even drawing attention to this issue. We know that some of these public schools are already teaching creationism as fact, they just fly under the radar until someone in the community speaks up.
 
2012-04-04 03:12:46 PM  
The Founder of Intelligent Design had a few words about his "movement" and what it was about...

lh5.googleusercontent.com

ID isn't science. It's barely philosophy. It is simply a way to get talk about religion into the schools. Which, I'm fine with, in a Comparative Religion class.

lh3.googleusercontent.com

Which, you never hear folks who want to talk about ID want to acknowledge.

Come to think of it, they never defend Amaterasu bringing light to the world...

lh6.googleusercontent.com

Don't exactly see them rushing out to talk about Scientology and aliens, either...

lh5.googleusercontent.com

Which to me points to a simple message for all the knuckle draggers who want to inject their and ignore the whole principle of the freedom of religion. The state backs one faith, it is endorsed by the state, and we fought a war with England to NOT have the Anglican Church promoted over others. Instead, the government has to have no stake in any faith, save that you are free to practice your faith, so long as you don't hurt others doing it.

Anything else, and you threaten the right to practice your faith freely. It is for the PROTECTION of all faiths, not a war on faith. Hells, I thought the gub'ment was so screwed up that it couldn't be trusted to run anything, so why look to join faith and state, if the government is the enemy?

The freedom of religion is an important one. You don't want the state backing one faith, because in a generation, things can change, and then you've given another faith the keys to the state, which is exactly what we don't want. Not a revolving door of faiths to promote. Better, to have none, and let folks go about their business freely.

Ultimately, science can't be bound to the whims of which ministry is popular today. Which story is most popular.

lh4.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-04-04 03:12:58 PM  
You should obviously allow students to criticize evolution. If they can do so in a way that is scientifically sound, which they can't. Science class is less about teaching facts than about teaching methods of arriving at facts, and you can't let kids leave class thinking that creationists use the scientific method.
 
2012-04-04 03:13:21 PM  

timujin: "What the bill says is that as long as you stick to objective scientific facts, then you can bring that into play," the Knoxville Republican said. "So if students start asking questions or if there's debate on it, it's not a one-sided debate. But it is a fair debate, in that it's objective scientific facts that are brought forward."

So... you think that if a student brings up ID, they'll have some sort of "objective scientific facts" to bring forward?


If so, I'd love to see them. If ID gets some facts, any facts, then it immediately changes from being a fairy tale into a scientific theory, because if it can be explained, it is no longer magical, supernatural bullshiat.
 
2012-04-04 03:13:48 PM  
Why is it that America never seems to move on after resolutions? I understand how things like weed legalization has never occurred, so there is still a fight there, but after a battle is fought and won, like gay marriage, abortion, etc, WHY can't we just let it go? Like reversing it is ever going to be viewed upon favorably?
 
2012-04-04 03:14:03 PM  
Goddammit this is why I hate TN, that and rednecks... Maybe Jack Daniels makes up for rednecks but not this bullshiat!
 
2012-04-04 03:14:04 PM  

SkinnyHead: vpb: Then what's the problem? Most evangelicals I know still believe that.

People who believe in creation are more likely to accept the fact that all men are created equal.


I don't believe men were 'created' at all, but I accept that we're equal.

Also, I'd say citation needed, but I don't plan on clicking on any Answers in Genesis or Discovery Institute links today.
 
2012-04-04 03:14:55 PM  
It is 2012. It's shameful that this is even a subject anymore.
 
2012-04-04 03:15:42 PM  
FTA "would protect teachers who allow students to criticize evolution and other scientific theories"

That's all? Why the hell can't people already apply critical thought in the education system?

/oh, the whole independent thinking thing. i understand now
 
2012-04-04 03:17:25 PM  
I give the current Union another 30 years. After that, we'll all have to buy new globes to accommodate The Republic of Pacifica, The United Great Lake States, The Confederate States of America, and New Englandia (member EU).
 
2012-04-04 03:18:22 PM  
I have never understood why people think belief in evolution precludes belief in God.

Evolution is fact. There may be something/one behind everything, including evolution. I don't have any proof for what/who God is or even if there is a God. Neither does anyone else. Anyone who says different is selling something.
 
2012-04-04 03:18:58 PM  
After all these years, SkinnyHead's schtick is still evergreen, while others have passed into oblivion or have been bahleeted.

Ask not for whom the troll posts, he posts for thee!
 
2012-04-04 03:20:07 PM  

SkinnyHead: vpb: Then what's the problem? Most evangelicals I know still believe that.

People who believe in creation are more likely to accept the fact that all men are created equal.


Based on what criteria.........?
 
2012-04-04 03:20:20 PM  

Cythraul: Mr. Coffee Nerves: This flimflammery by the scienticians has my humours unbalanced. I'm so full of phlogiston it's making my phrenologist apoplectic.

Phrenologist? You should see an alchemist for more traditional, reasonable medical treatments.


Bully that! Our resident apothecary has a potion that cures rickets, beetle-jowl, hogswart, fennel-tongue, and even homosexuality!
 
2012-04-04 03:22:57 PM  
According to the article, supporters are claiming that nothing will change in the curriculum or science standards.

If we're to assume that's true, then why is this bill even necessary? To protect kids who speak out against evolution?

Fark that. If kids are dumb enough to ignore accepted scientific consensus because their half-wit fundie parents indoctrinated them that way, they NEED to be smacked down before they get into the real world.
 
2012-04-04 03:22:58 PM  

valar_morghulis: Cythraul: Mr. Coffee Nerves: This flimflammery by the scienticians has my humours unbalanced. I'm so full of phlogiston it's making my phrenologist apoplectic.

Phrenologist? You should see an alchemist for more traditional, reasonable medical treatments.

Bully that! Our resident apothecary has a potion that cures rickets, beetle-jowl, hogswart, fennel-tongue, and even homosexuality!


Listen, man. Just paint yourself on the wall of your cave in mammoth blood. It cures everything.
 
2012-04-04 03:23:49 PM  
It takes a special kind of state to have lawmakers (and legal staff) look at the ironclad thermonuclear smackdown laid down in Kitzmiller v. Dover and say "Ahhh, who cares about what some egghead federal judge appointed by George Bush thinks?"
 
2012-04-04 03:26:22 PM  

Jake Havechek: SkinnyHead: vpb: Then what's the problem? Most evangelicals I know still believe that.

People who believe in creation are more likely to accept the fact that all men are created equal.

Based on what criteria.........?


God doesn't pick favorites like some sort of chosen race or people, nor does he order them to kill or take land from others by promising it to them, even if someone already lives there.
 
2012-04-04 03:26:39 PM  

Chinchillazilla: valar_morghulis: Cythraul: Mr. Coffee Nerves: This flimflammery by the scienticians has my humours unbalanced. I'm so full of phlogiston it's making my phrenologist apoplectic.

Phrenologist? You should see an alchemist for more traditional, reasonable medical treatments.

Bully that! Our resident apothecary has a potion that cures rickets, beetle-jowl, hogswart, fennel-tongue, and even homosexuality!

Listen, man. Just paint yourself on the wall of your cave in mammoth blood. It cures everything.


Better yet, just worship the sun. Sun goes up, sun goes down. You can't explain that!
 
2012-04-04 03:26:54 PM  
Wow . Anti evolution theory is still alive?
Who wrote that up and submitted it for peer review?
Was it a Tee Vee Preecher?
 
2012-04-04 03:26:57 PM  

Chinchillazilla: valar_morghulis: Cythraul: Mr. Coffee Nerves: This flimflammery by the scienticians has my humours unbalanced. I'm so full of phlogiston it's making my phrenologist apoplectic.

Phrenologist? You should see an alchemist for more traditional, reasonable medical treatments.

Bully that! Our resident apothecary has a potion that cures rickets, beetle-jowl, hogswart, fennel-tongue, and even homosexuality!

Listen, man. Just paint yourself on the wall of your cave in mammoth blood. It cures everything.


Or go to the local barber and have him draw off a pint. It's typical for people to produce too much sanguine humor in cold weather.
 
2012-04-04 03:27:04 PM  
As a minister of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I welcome this legislation.

Pastafarian children (in full pirate regalia) will finally be allowed to stand up for their intelligent design beliefs in the classrooms of Tennessee. May they all be touched by his noodly appendage.

Truly, it is a wonderful day.

rAmen
 
2012-04-04 03:27:29 PM  
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2012-04-04 03:27:48 PM  

Chinchillazilla: valar_morghulis: Cythraul: Mr. Coffee Nerves: This flimflammery by the scienticians has my humours unbalanced. I'm so full of phlogiston it's making my phrenologist apoplectic.

Phrenologist? You should see an alchemist for more traditional, reasonable medical treatments.

Bully that! Our resident apothecary has a potion that cures rickets, beetle-jowl, hogswart, fennel-tongue, and even homosexuality!

Listen, man. Just paint yourself on the wall of your cave in mammoth blood. It cures everything.


No you fool, you must find a virgin girl who is a descendant of Jesus. Then you must catch her mistral blood in a plain wooden cup and drink it.
 
2012-04-04 03:28:06 PM  

TimonC346: Why is it that America never seems to move on after resolutions? I understand how things like weed legalization has never occurred, so there is still a fight there, but after a battle is fought and won, like gay marriage, abortion, etc, WHY can't we just let it go? Like reversing it is ever going to be viewed upon favorably?


Because we have a fantasy that things were better back then and we should go back to it. Music, Fark, TV, Movies, society, the internet? All were magically better when you first really started to appreciate them.

We're in essence a country of 45 year olds who still wear their letter jackets
 
2012-04-04 03:28:06 PM  

Jake Havechek: SkinnyHead: vpb: Then what's the problem? Most evangelicals I know still believe that.

People who believe in creation are more likely to accept the fact that all men are created equal.

Based on what criteria.........?


They believe men are created equal...but the broads? They need to be slut-shamed at every turn.
 
2012-04-04 03:28:40 PM  

Jake Havechek: SkinnyHead: vpb: Then what's the problem? Most evangelicals I know still believe that.

People who believe in creation are more likely to accept the fact that all men are created equal.

Based on what criteria.........?


Well, in order to believe that all men are created equal, you first got to accept the fact that all men were created, don't you? If you believe that man evolved through entirely random and unguided processes, then what reason do you have to believe that different races are equal? Isn't that why Scopes was teaching both evolution and white supremacy in biology class?
 
2012-04-04 03:29:27 PM  

theorellior: After all these years, SkinnyHead's schtick is still evergreen, while others have passed into oblivion or have been bahleeted.

Ask not for whom the troll posts, he posts for thee!


He is a protected species in this ecosystem.
 
2012-04-04 03:30:26 PM  

SkinnyHead: Jake Havechek: SkinnyHead: vpb: Then what's the problem? Most evangelicals I know still believe that.

People who believe in creation are more likely to accept the fact that all men are created equal.

Based on what criteria.........?

Well, in order to believe that all men are created equal, you first got to accept the fact that all men were created, don't you? If you believe that man evolved through entirely random and unguided processes, then what reason do you have to believe that different races are equal? Isn't that why Scopes was teaching both evolution and white supremacy in biology class?


deus-ex-machinima.net
 
2012-04-04 03:32:48 PM  
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This movie is a great view into the world of ID.
 
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