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(Duluth News Tribune)   Struggling waitress with five kids gets $12,000 tip, cops seize it because it smells like pot, waitress sues. Bonus: Waitress's co-workers who are "familiar with" marijuana testify that they didn't smell any   (duluthnewstribune.com) divider line 164
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2012-04-04 01:52:14 PM
And for what? For a little bit of money. There's more to life than a little money, you know. Don'tcha know that? And here ya are, and it's a beautiful day. Well. I just don't understand it.
 
2012-04-04 01:54:40 PM
For you amatuers, I'll post this yet again. This is real shiat. Watch, listen, and learn.

DO. NOT. TALK. TO. COPS!!!!!!
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2012-04-04 01:59:27 PM
Wow, there are a lot of [people pretending to be] cops on this thread.
 
2012-04-04 02:02:56 PM

ringersol: The My Little Pony Killer: "Does she call the police every time somebody tips more than 20% on their bill?"

There's a solid practical argument that no-one should have any trust in the police and thus never, ever talk to them for any reason unless absolutely necessary.
But that's a pretty shiatty bit of 'wisdom' to use in disparaging a victim.

Further, unless she could be confident that no-one who ever found out about the tip was petty, jealous or vindictive, it's a toss-up.
Cops intent on playing "Do you smell pot?" to seize property could be depended upon to shake her down if they got wind of it after the fact too. And she'd be in even deeper shiat for not having reported it in the first place.


You must be a cop!
 
2012-04-04 02:03:50 PM
They're supposed to roll a joint, not a wad of cash. But whatever floats their boat. How many of the officers got the munchies off of it?
 
2012-04-04 02:09:02 PM
It was found money, not a tip. It didn't belong to her. If you leave your phone on the table at a restaurant, does the waitress own it now? What if you forget your wallet? Is everything on a table surface the waitress's property as soon as you leave the premises?
 
2012-04-04 02:12:39 PM
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"German shepherd starts barking. He's barking at me. I mean, it's obvious. He's barking at me. Every nerve-ending, all my senses, blood in my veins, everything I have is screaming, "Take off, man! Just bail, just get the fark out of there!" Panic hits me like a bucket of water. First there's the shock of it... -BAM!... -right in the face. I'm standing there drenched in panic. All these sheriffs looking at me, and they know, man. They can smell it. Sure as that farking dog can, they can smell it on me."

/hot link!
 
2012-04-04 02:21:05 PM

Another Pretentious Nickname: It was found money, not a tip. It didn't belong to her. If you leave your phone on the table at a restaurant, does the waitress own it now? What if you forget your wallet? Is everything on a table surface the waitress's property as soon as you leave the premises?


In the United States, standard social convention when dining in a restaurant is to leave money behind on the table for your server. Also known as... a tip.
 
2012-04-04 02:21:08 PM
How long are we going to tolerate this bullshiat? fark the goddamn police.
 
2012-04-04 02:27:53 PM

SpectroBoy: karmaceutical: So why did she call the police again? She more or less admitted the deal was fishy. The Cops just confirmed it didn't pass the smell test. Now she wants them to give it back?

Well, she probably thought it might be stolen. In that situation reporting it is the right thing to do.

She just didn't expect the cops to steal it from her.


That would've been my first thought in that situation. And I probably would have reported it too. The average person doesn't expect to see that much cash anywhere. And the average honest person would report it. At least she should be stocked up on good karma for a while.
 
2012-04-04 02:28:25 PM

The Sofa King: Another Pretentious Nickname: It was found money, not a tip. It didn't belong to her. If you leave your phone on the table at a restaurant, does the waitress own it now? What if you forget your wallet? Is everything on a table surface the waitress's property as soon as you leave the premises?

In the United States, standard social convention when dining in a restaurant is to leave money behind on the table for your server. Also known as... a tip.


But she's probably right to assume that an amount that large isn't a tip. I can't tell you where the cutoff is, but I'm sure it's lower than $12k.

On the other hand, she found it and nobody claimed it. If I'd lost that much, you can bet I'd check with the cops. And if I had that much in a take-out box, I wouldn't wave off a waitress who told me I left a take-out box at my table. So if you count it as found money, it's more hers than anyone else's. And if it's a tip, it's hers. It doesn't matter what you call it, the money ought to be returned to her. If it's evidence, they can write her a check,
 
2012-04-04 02:29:49 PM
It does make sense to turn it in. What would happen to you if you kept it and it turned out to be counterfeit??

I don't see that the police had any business keeping it at all, though--this wasn't lost property, it was given to her.

As for it being drug money--I would say the odds are very high that it was. So what? Drug money is only tainted while in the hands of the drug dealer. Once it's transferred to others in a non-criminal transaction it loses that taint. If you don't follow that then the police might as well just seize all money as anything that's been around a while certainly has been through the hands of a drug dealer at some point.
 
2012-04-04 02:38:34 PM

Rodeodoc: The greatest threat to our security and freedom comes not from terrorists and religious fundamentalists, but rather from those that are employed to secure those freedoms and security.


Amen bro! or sis if the case may be. Of course now you are going to get a visit from the men in black. It was nice knowing you.
 
2012-04-04 02:43:06 PM

LL316: So they're in the wrong for trying to figure out if the money was illegally attained? It's their job to fight crime, isn't it? She's an idiot for calling them, no doubt. But you can't get mad at them for doing their jobs once you bring them into the equation. I'm sure her next call was to the IRS.


Did they find out that the money was illegally obtained? Because if not, they need to give it back, that's the whole point. If no one claims it and it's not being used as evidence in an actual criminal case (as opposed to some specious "ongoing investigation") then they need to give it back.

If the cops can't actually find that the money belongs to someone else, or that it is actual evidence used in the commission of an actual crime, then they need to give the chick her money back.
 
2012-04-04 02:43:53 PM

Another Pretentious Nickname: It was found money, not a tip. It didn't belong to her. If you leave your phone on the table at a restaurant, does the waitress own it now? What if you forget your wallet? Is everything on a table surface the waitress's property as soon as you leave the premises?


She tried to return it, she was told to keep it. It's now hers, not found money.
 
2012-04-04 02:48:13 PM
FTFA: "Moorhead police Lt. Tory Jacobson said he couldn't discuss the matter." One way flow of information, standard BS. They sure don't hesitate to pipe-up when their wages and benefits are under consideration though, do they?
 
2012-04-04 02:53:28 PM
She got a $1,000 reward; the cops all have to split the other $11,000. Seems fair to me.
 
2012-04-04 02:58:50 PM

StrangeQ: How long are we going to tolerate this bullshiat? fark the goddamn police.


Remember it was Congress that voted to allow this crap-ola. Take it up with them. The cops are just stealing whatever isn't nailed down because they can.
 
2012-04-04 02:59:59 PM
 
2012-04-04 03:03:05 PM
Who the fark leaves their tip in an empty to-go container? Yeah, the money was NOT a tip.
 
2012-04-04 03:08:20 PM

Spasticus Autisticus: The drug-sniffing dog "indicated" on the money?

Unless I am mistaken, a high percentage of large-denomination paper money shows traces of illegal drugs under scrutiny.

Using this logic, any paper money could be seized.


Also, keep in mind....any police dog will indicate on whatever its handler tells them to indicate on. What? You think cops are honest with their police dogs?
 
2012-04-04 03:09:37 PM
well if nothing else, cops prove to always be there to steal your money and shoot you or your family members. Now if only he had some kind of agency devoted to stopping these kinds of crimes....
 
2012-04-04 03:12:19 PM
If you're a struggling waitress, don't you think you'd get on birth control after 1, maybe 2 kids?
 
2012-04-04 03:13:01 PM

Spasticus Autisticus: The drug-sniffing dog "indicated" on the money?

Unless I am mistaken, a high percentage of large-denomination paper money shows traces of illegal drugs under scrutiny.

Using this logic, any paper money could be seized.


I personally have enough of a skeptic's view that there are places that spray paper money with chemicals meant to mimic drug odor in dogs for that very purpose...makes Uncle RICO happy to have advance work done.
 
2012-04-04 03:14:45 PM

Loren: As for it being drug money--I would say the odds are very high that it was. So what? Drug money is only tainted while in the hands of the drug dealer. Once it's transferred to others in a non-criminal transaction it loses that taint.


Numerous studies say you're wrong: here, here, and here.
 
2012-04-04 03:17:57 PM
Just like the lady who "knew what cum tastes like" when handed some yogurt in a cup? Priceless.
 
2012-04-04 03:18:47 PM

ImpendingCynic: Loren: As for it being drug money--I would say the odds are very high that it was. So what? Drug money is only tainted while in the hands of the drug dealer. Once it's transferred to others in a non-criminal transaction it loses that taint.

Numerous studies say you're wrong: here, here, and here.


I think he meant once it's spent in a legal manner, it's shouldn't be considered "drug money".
 
2012-04-04 03:27:33 PM
ill repeat what has already been said, never talk to cops
 
2012-04-04 03:32:43 PM

Do You Know What I Am Saying: ImpendingCynic: Loren: As for it being drug money--I would say the odds are very high that it was. So what? Drug money is only tainted while in the hands of the drug dealer. Once it's transferred to others in a non-criminal transaction it loses that taint.

Numerous studies say you're wrong: here, here, and here.

I think he meant once it's spent in a legal manner, it's shouldn't be considered "drug money".


Exactly. I was referring to the legal status, not the trace quantities of drugs that are on our money.
 
2012-04-04 03:45:54 PM
They confiscated it because it smelled like pot? Holy crap. What a crock. They better not ever look in my sock drawer - my feat get sweating in leather shoes without socks.

According to NY Daily News, up to 90% of American money has cocaine residue on it. Snopes agrees.

F'ing power hungry jackwads.
 
2012-04-04 03:51:01 PM
I sure do love me some of that there big powerful government that can get away with this kind of crap. I hope in the future we can vote in more of those big government politicians, so they government can get even more powerful.
 
2012-04-04 04:15:18 PM
She has no idea where that money came from. They could have been marked bills being tracked by the Feds for all she knew. And she ultimately got a $1000 reward for turning it into the cops.

I'm not saying cops aren't dicks for confiscating it the way that the did, but at the end of the day, she came out of this whole thing ahead.
 
2012-04-04 04:21:10 PM
"Even though I desperately needed the money as my husband and I have 5 children, I feel I did the right thing by calling Moorhead Police," she states in the lawsuit.

Why? You tried to give it back to the person who left it, they told you to keep it. No crime has been committed. Why call the cops? Seems obvious to me that if you call the cops, they are going to steal your money.

The cops theory is that rich people don't use cash, it's all about credit/debit cards, so anyone who has a significant amount of cash is a drug dealer. Then they steal the money and everybody is happy, as long as they wear a police uniform.
 
2012-04-04 05:08:08 PM

Spasticus Autisticus: The drug-sniffing dog "indicated" on the money?

Unless I am mistaken, a high percentage of large-denomination paper money shows traces of illegal drugs under scrutiny.

Using this logic, any paper money could be seized.


You learn quickly young grasshopper.
 
2012-04-04 05:16:40 PM

Rozotorical: Gig103: The My Little Pony Killer: No, it smells like a stupid waitress who should have kept her "tip" to herself since that's apparently all it is. Does she call the police every time somebody tips more than 20% on their bill?

Agreed. What was the other outcome, the Secret Service announcing it was counterfeit and confiscating it? Nothing good comes of reporting money.

Some times when people tip big they get tippers remorse and come back with the cops to get their money back from the thieving waitress. You are trained to report those kinds of tips.


Seriously?!

How the fark does that even work?

"I gave someone money, but now I want it back." Is a legitimate complaint to a police department?
 
2012-04-04 05:17:15 PM
Dumbass trusted the cops.
Now she gets to pay a stupid tax.


/Yes, if you are a cop, fuk you personally.
//Sincerely, someone who makes his living exposing your lying asses in court.
 
2012-04-04 05:25:07 PM
She called the cops herself and has no one but herself to blame. She should have taken it without a word.
 
2012-04-04 05:42:32 PM
Jesus Friggin Christ we're a bunch of cold hearted bastards, aren't we?

Yes, she was naive when she called the police. She just didn't have the world wearied experience of a bunch of geeks with nothing better to do than post on the Internet in the middle of the day in the middle of the week.
 
2012-04-04 06:03:34 PM

gunga galunga: at the end of the day, she came out of this whole thing ahead.


At the end of the day someone came out down $11k. You can say it was the waitress or the person who left the cash, but the cops stole $11k from one of them.
 
2012-04-04 06:12:43 PM
Ok everyone's saying she shouldn't have called the cops but what are the alternatives?

She keeps it under the table as you do with most of your tips (or you should) and she has to spend it slowly and responsibly for fear of alerting the IRS.

She reports it on the daily tip totals and has to claim it on taxes at the end of the year so then someone finds out this lady mysteriously got $12,000 under shifty circumstances.

Or she calls the cops to cover her ass and the cops act like douches.

No good outcomes really.
 
2012-04-04 06:18:13 PM

zepher: I wonder how much of the $5,000 made it to the evidence locker?


And the receipt for 2,000 given to the waitress?

/cop math
 
2012-04-04 06:25:40 PM

Lunchlady: She reports it on the daily tip totals and has to claim it on taxes at the end of the year so then someone finds out this lady mysteriously got $12,000 under shifty circumstances.


She is required to report her income, and pay taxes on it. She is not required to disclose the manner in which she acquired the money. And honestly the IRS couldn't care less. If you were being investigated the researcher might be interested in your tax returns, but the IRS isn't going to ring up the FBI just because you reported a few grand in tips.

Plus it isn't a crime to get a $12k tip. It's unusual, but unless she had some legitimate reason to believe the money was tainted she's not doing anything illegal by receiving a tip.
 
2012-04-04 06:26:18 PM

profplump: receiving a tip


/ Just the tip
 
2012-04-04 06:55:12 PM
Why do idiots like this make it their first order of business to call the cops anytime something... anything, boggles their mind?
 
2012-04-04 07:23:22 PM
Not that it matters but if you are at Seatac airport and a police dog sits next to you, the cop is going to have a chat with you. The dogs are trained to sit next to the target when they get a hit/whiff.
 
2012-04-04 08:26:36 PM

SpectroBoy: karmaceutical: So why did she call the police again? She more or less admitted the deal was fishy. The Cops just confirmed it didn't pass the smell test. Now she wants them to give it back?

Well, she probably thought it might be stolen. In that situation reporting it is the right thing to do.

She just didn't expect the cops to steal it from her.


The best bet? Call a lawyer friend if you have one. If she would have agreed to give them $2000 if they could get it free and clear. $10000> $1000.
 
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2012-04-04 09:04:45 PM
BEING A COP IS AWESOME!!!!


www.workathomeideas.tv
 
2012-04-04 09:12:33 PM
step 1: do not call police
step 2: ....
step 3: profit

its her own damn fault for not following step 1. fark her
 
2012-04-04 10:11:05 PM

Loren: Once it's transferred to others in a non-criminal transaction it loses that taint.


Word of advice. Do NOT paw through the lost and found looking for lost taint.
 
2012-04-04 11:11:43 PM
Farking cops should return the 8 thousand dollars..

Here's where she went wrong:

""Even though I desperately needed the money as my husband and I have 5 children, I feel I did the right thing by calling Moorhead Police," she states in the lawsuit."


face palm/
 
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