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(Salon)   Just where are the Republicans getting their insane notions about Barack Obama? From a science fiction novel written in 1912 by an advisor to Woodrow Wilson. And Ayn Rand, of course   (salon.com) divider line 218
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2012-04-04 04:25:45 AM  

Gordon Bennett: nmrsnr: DamnYankees: nmrsnr: To be fair, does this really describe Republicans, or the writers of World Net Daily? Because I haven't heard or seen any big name Republican (and Glenn Beck no longer counts) mention any of this stuff.

Give it a few months. Birtherism started the same way.

I like to continue to believe that eventually the right-leaning populace will say "this far, and no further" to the crazy things spouted from the far right. I haven't been right yet, but there has to be a stopping point, right?

Never. They really are that farking stupid.

Take a look at this actual news clip about Pedobear. (new window). That's what is living right outside our little bubble here. They believe every word of that to be true and take it very, very seriously. They're real, they're everywhere, and they probably dined on paint chips as children.


Aw hell no...news outlets are still taking pedobear seriously? That has to be fairly newish due to the Penn State sticker.

There are definitely some real morans in this country. Surprised they aren't still warning us about the dangers of jenkem. (new window)
 
2012-04-04 04:27:55 AM  
fta: Progressives, Will explained, "are forever longing to replace the governance of people by the administration of things. Because they are entirely public-spirited, progressives volunteer to be the administrators, and to be as disinterested as the dickens."

[wtfamireading?]

Sounds like the GOP's remaining brain trust took the brown acid.

Damn, there was a lot of derp in that article. WND and Beck digging up a 100 year old novel that nobody's ever heard of and then asserting it's the "blueprint" for modern progressives is well, how to put this politely? Um, going with "BATSHIAT INSANE" there.

/Yeah, really that's about as polite as I can be about that level of delusion.

The anti-semetic undercurents didn't help.

fta: In "The Controversy of Zion," the English anti-Semite Douglas Reed expatiates on the mystery of House's origins, pointedly quoting his biographer Arthur D. Howden, who wrote that House's "middle name, Mandell, was that of 'a Jewish merchant in Houston, who was one of his father's most intimate friends; the fact that the elder House conferred a Jewish name upon his son indicates the family's attitude towards the race')."

So.. to sum up, Barack HUSSEIN Obama is conspiring to create a benevolent dictatorship in the US a'la Philip Dru in Edward MANDELL House's 100 year old book.

That about it?
 
2012-04-04 04:46:41 AM  
I preferred it so much better when the democrats were getting their notions about potential supreme court justices from the novel "The Exorcist".
 
2012-04-04 05:10:22 AM  
I wonder how many Republicans even know that they've become the "bad guys"?
 
2012-04-04 05:13:39 AM  
Philip Dru, Administrator: A Story of Tomorrow, 1920-1935?

This book is the source?

i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-04-04 05:16:38 AM  
It's like Saul Alinsky..

Republicans: 'They're followers of Saul Alinsky! They're using Alinsky tactics!'

Everyone else on Earth: 'Who the fark is Saul Alinsky?'
 
2012-04-04 05:36:21 AM  

Descartes: Philip Dru, Administrator: A Story of Tomorrow, 1920-1935?

This book is the source?

[i2.kym-cdn.com image 363x310]



Why not? There are people who want to live by books as diverse as Ecotopia Link (new window) and Godbody Link (new window)
 
2012-04-04 05:57:29 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Obama set out immediately to create an 'administrator' type of government by naming more than 30 czars that bypassed congressional approval and oversight, each with administrative power and responsible only to the administrator-in-chief

[notthisshiatagain.jpg]

OK, one more time. Let's look at the history of the "Czar"

FDR had 17 czars
between FDR and George W Bush, every President had a single-digit number of czars
GWB had 33 czars
BHO has 38

So, "conservatives," which President exploded the number of czars?

But it only became a problem when the black, muslin demoncrap Usurper in Chief went to the White House


I think their issue is more with the word "Czar" because Czar = Russian = Commie Pinko = Obama. It's like debating semantics with an ESL student.
 
2012-04-04 06:05:59 AM  
Benevolent Dictator is something we need right now, as long as he's not a fascist.

Unfortunately, unlikely.
 
2012-04-04 06:23:43 AM  

electronicmaji: Benevolent Dictator is something we need right now, as long as he's not a fascist.

Unfortunately, unlikely.


Unfortunately, I think your wrong. There's a pretty good chance we'll end up with a dictator of one type or another. And while that dictator may come to power as benevolent, they never turn out that way.

Oh, and I also think the odds of a fascist dictator are higher in America than a socialist one. Sinclair Lewis was right when he said "When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
 
2012-04-04 06:46:21 AM  
It goes back much further than that...

Thomas Paine wrote of those that rule by force and by fraud. Many of Paine's writings describe today's Republican party in great detail.

/yeah, yeah, his descriptions fit Dems too, but not to the same extremes.
 
2012-04-04 06:54:36 AM  
are you beeter off now than 3 years ago????

3 million out of work folks... say??????

best part... under Obama?

forever.....
 
2012-04-04 06:56:42 AM  

winterwhile: beeter off


Isn't that supposed to be the other way around?
 
2012-04-04 06:57:59 AM  

FeedTheCollapse: It's like debating semantics with an ESL student.


Depending on where they learned their English, it might be more productive than arguing semantics with a native speaker.
 
2012-04-04 07:22:59 AM  

Tickle Mittens:
Describing her (Rand) as an author of stylized archtypes seems a lot like describing Dali as a "painter of clocks"


It's true. Both icons are easily distilled to their essential and uninteresting contributions.
 
2012-04-04 07:28:05 AM  

winterwhile: are you beeter beater off now than 3 years ago????
3 million out of work folks... say??????
best part... under Obama?
forever.....


Well, What can you do all day when you don't have a job?
FTFY (pet peave)
 
2012-04-04 07:28:58 AM  

winterwhile: are you beeter off now than 3 years ago????

3 million out of work folks... say??????

best part... under Obama?

forever.....


Yeah, actually. My career has taken off, my savings have grown, and I've pretty clearly ascended at least one solid rung up the economic ladder. We're doing pretty darn good.

But then, I'm writing from the People's Republic of Cambridge so I'm a filthy islamocommie anyway. Obama raises red state taxes and gives it to us for more bicycle paths and health care guarantees.
 
2012-04-04 07:32:44 AM  

Crunch61: It goes back much further than that...

Thomas Paine wrote of those that rule by force and by fraud. Many of Paine's writings describe today's Republican party in great detail.

/yeah, yeah, his descriptions fit Dems too, but not to the same extremes.


Do they describe those who rule by crazy, and weapons grade derp?
 
2012-04-04 07:39:54 AM  

soze: winterwhile: are you beeter off now than 3 years ago????

3 million out of work folks... say??????

best part... under Obama?

forever.....

Yeah, actually. My career has taken off, my savings have grown, and I've pretty clearly ascended at least one solid rung up the economic ladder. We're doing pretty darn good.

But then, I'm writing from the People's Republic of Cambridge so I'm a filthy islamocommie anyway. Obama raises red state taxes and gives it to us for more bicycle paths and health care guarantees.


I'm having trouble finding employees.

/just crossed the Charles into Boston
 
2012-04-04 07:41:11 AM  

enry: I'm having trouble finding employees.

/just crossed the Charles into Boston


No chance you're looking for experienced HVAC/Controls/energy engineers, is there? My fiance is in the market.
 
2012-04-04 07:48:52 AM  

winterwhile: are you beeter off now than 3 years ago????

3 million out of work folks... say??????

best part... under Obama?

forever.....


Yeah actually I am. 3 years ago the place I work at was struggling to find work and about to fire half of our dozen or so employees. Now we're so packed with work that we've had to hire more people and more into a new building twice the size of the old.
 
2012-04-04 07:50:59 AM  
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
 
2012-04-04 08:01:08 AM  
How much tin foil do you have to wear on your head to believe that Obama is following the storyline to some hundred year old piece of pulp so that he can overthrow the government and take over control of the world (with the help of the British Empire, no less)? I mean, the other side does it too - it's not uncommon to see "The Handmaid's Tale is not a how to-manual" written here on fark, but at least that's halfway joking.

But the far scarier part - in another hundred years, we might have major political parties looking at the Overton Window and saying, yep, that guy knew exactly what was coming.
 
2012-04-04 08:05:54 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Take a look at this actual news clip about Pedobear. (new window). That's what is living right outside our little bubble here. They believe every word of that to be true and take it very, very seriously. They're real, they're everywhere, and they probably dined on paint chips as children.


If you put "The Onion" logo over that report, it would be hilarious.
 
2012-04-04 08:06:40 AM  
i.imgur.com

.....forever
 
2012-04-04 08:09:01 AM  

BMulligan: Befuddled: I'm wondering what is going to happen to the conspiracy nuts four years from now as Obama is winding down his second term and the world is still here basically unchanged and the US hasn't collapsed. The nutjobs have really invested so much into Obama that I don't know what they'll do when it becomes apparent he's not going to fulfill their fantasies and be end of everything.

That's the beauty of it - they simply make up an alternate reality in which our apparent domestic tranquility is actually an illusion, a myth promulgated by the lamestream MSM and eaten up by all the deluded sheeple. In their alternate reality, the United States actually have collapsed, and anyone capable of seeing the truth knows it.

Do you doubt me? Read some Austrian School "economics" some time, and learn that our real inflation rate is 1276%, the real unemployment rate is 96%, and the vast majority of Americans eat from garbage cans so that the elites may feast on lobster and caviar at the Waldorf Astoria.


And yet then they say OWS are lying, crazy irresponsible hippies (and cheer when the police beat them) for suggesting that people might want to take a look at ways to deal with the wealth gap.
 
2012-04-04 08:10:30 AM  

soze: enry: I'm having trouble finding employees.

/just crossed the Charles into Boston

No chance you're looking for experienced HVAC/Controls/energy engineers, is there? My fiance is in the market.


Nope, sorry.
 
2012-04-04 08:12:52 AM  
Silly subby. Everyone knows Republicans can't read. How can they get their notions from a book?
 
2012-04-04 08:20:10 AM  

Befuddled: I'm wondering what is going to happen to the conspiracy nuts four years from now as Obama is winding down his second term and the world is still here basically unchanged and the US hasn't collapsed.


They will be rounded up and hauled off to the camps.
 
2012-04-04 08:21:32 AM  
Ein Rand (real name: Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum), who wrote 1,000-page anti communist pamphlets and died receiving social security and Medicare (new window) while being treated for her lung cancer. She was butt hurt for her entire life because the commies confiscated her daddy's pharmacy in Russia, thereby depriving her of a nice bourgeois lifestyle in the land of the fish egg eaters. Her outlook was distinctly Trotskyite and fascist right wing in flavor and she is one of the founding perverts behind the Neoconservative movement (new window) and the Chicago School of economic thought (see also: Obama, the Chicago School neoliberal).

Enjoy your delusions.
 
2012-04-04 08:23:09 AM  
As one study recently suggested, conservatives hold few misconceptions about what liberals are thinking where as liberals hold many misconceptions about what conservatives are thinking. This is what happens when you can honestly examine what your opponents positions are, and disagree with them, as opposed to what liberals do, which is construct straw men, and then attack them.

And here we have another fine example of salon.com showing us that this study was true. Liberals have to, in their own minds, come up with fake reasons "why" Republicans/Conservatives do things because this is the only way they can possibly feel good about being wrong on just about everything.
 
2012-04-04 08:26:32 AM  

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 387x310]

Okay, I gotta know: WHO IS THAT GUY?

I think I first saw him as the "Deep Thoughts With Skinnyhead" macro, thinking it was just some random tardface pulled off GIS or something, but now it seems you guys got a whole gallery of him to macro into whatever.

Who is he and where did you get him from?

 
2012-04-04 08:26:41 AM  

randomjsa: As one study recently suggested, conservatives hold few misconceptions about what liberals are thinking where as liberals hold many misconceptions about what conservatives are thinking. This is what happens when you can honestly examine what your opponents positions are, and disagree with them, as opposed to what liberals do, which is construct straw men, and then attack them.

And here we have another fine example of salon.com showing us that this study was true. Liberals have to, in their own minds, come up with fake reasons "why" Republicans/Conservatives do things because this is the only way they can possibly feel good about being wrong on just about everything.


We don't have any misconceptions. We know conservatives aren't thinking much at all.
 
2012-04-04 08:27:21 AM  

Karac: winterwhile: are you beeter off now than 3 years ago????

3 million out of work folks... say??????

best part... under Obama?

forever.....

Yeah actually I am. 3 years ago the place I work at was struggling to find work and about to fire half of our dozen or so employees. Now we're so packed with work that we've had to hire more people and more into a new building twice the size of the old.


For me, I'm not working for the NHL anymore, but that wasn't about economic downturn, but needing to be closer to my daughter. But I am working for a place that brings in some gorgeous grass fed beef, has a great farm share, and Historic Deerfield is a good non-profit, and not being in Phoenix means I'm not driving everywhere. That I'm dating a gal probably too young for me, that's maybe going to bite me on the ass, but Hells, it's a lot more fun than being in a loveless sort of relationship in the desert. So, yeah, I'm doing a Hells lot better than three years ago. My insurance is the same, I drive less, I have a job that is a lot of fun, and pretty much seeing an overall uptick in the whole shebang.

If I can date this gal FOREVER I'd be OK with that too.
 
2012-04-04 08:30:08 AM  

randomjsa: And here we have another fine example of salon.com showing us that this study was true. Liberals have to, in their own minds, come up with fake reasons "why" Republicans/Conservatives do things because this is the only way they can possibly feel good about being wrong on just about everything.


Okay, can you explain to us why conservatives are suddenly into this book and think its happening despite no evidence to the contrary? And while you're at it, explain Saul Alinsky and George Soros too. I don't think most Liberals even know who they are, much less would herald them as Liberal heroes fighting against the tyranny of Conservative oppression.
 
2012-04-04 08:30:29 AM  

winterwhile: are you beeter off now than 3 years ago????

3 million out of work folks... say??????

best part... under Obama?

forever.....


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2012-04-04 08:30:34 AM  

Ishkur: Who is he and where did you get him from?


His name is Torg and that's all I am allowed to divulge
 
2012-04-04 08:30:35 AM  

Mentat: Bush Derangement Syndrome is like a mild of OCD compared to the unbridled insanity of the modern GOP.


Bush earned it, Obama's had it from day one, before he even did anything.
 
2012-04-04 08:36:21 AM  
you rightwingers just haaaaaad to keep on digging, didn't you? now you've uncovered the root of it all. well, go ahead. try to stop us. the wheels have been in motion for a hundred years. do you really think you can stand in the way of destiny and history rolled up together into one massive, juggernaut? Do you really have the audacity to think that you and your puny, weakling tea party movement, with your "billions of dollars in untraceable cash used for any political ad you want to" can stand up to our tenuous connection with a hundred-year-old book? Do you really think you stand a chance against an extremely moderate conservative who has charisma of a former Harvard Law Review president? Go ahead. Fight all you like. We'll live out the destiny described in this 100-year-old obscure book, and your blood will become grease in the gears of our machine.

Expect the Black Panthers at your house shortly to take your guns, your money, and your women.
 
2012-04-04 08:37:34 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Mentat: Bush Derangement Syndrome is like a mild of OCD compared to the unbridled insanity of the modern GOP.

Bush earned it, Obama's had it from day one, before he even did anything.


Bush had the luxury of people re-forming their opinions following 9/11, depending on how he reacted, yet he managed to screw that up quite easily.
 
2012-04-04 08:38:48 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Republican blueprint.
 
2012-04-04 08:39:56 AM  

randomjsa: As one study recently suggested, conservatives hold few misconceptions about what liberals are thinking where as liberals hold many misconceptions about what conservatives are thinking. This is what happens when you can honestly examine what your opponents positions are, and disagree with them, as opposed to what liberals do, which is construct straw men, and then attack them.


To be perfectly honest, the reason why Liberals failed that test is because it's hard to correctly ascertain what the other side is thinking when they aren't using logic, reason or common sense. How can you predict someone's behavior who has a tenuous grasp of objective reality?
 
2012-04-04 08:42:33 AM  

hubiestubert: For me, I'm not working for the NHL anymore,


Awww man, I was seriously going to take a trip to Jobing arena if the Canucks met the Coyotes in the playoffs and look you up for one of your entrees.

Cuz lord knows Tickets are impossible to get here.
 
2012-04-04 08:43:00 AM  
Bush could have had it in the bag, he could have written his own ticket with the American people and the free world but he put Obergruppenführer Cheney and his fascist pals in charge and that all went to hell.
 
2012-04-04 08:45:48 AM  

Befuddled: I'm wondering what is going to happen to the conspiracy nuts four years from now as Obama is winding down his second term and the world is still here basically unchanged and the US hasn't collapsed. The nutjobs have really invested so much into Obama that I don't know what they'll do when it becomes apparent he's not going to fulfill their fantasies and be end of everything.


These people are a resilient bunch. They're like the people warning of Dooms Day. The world was supposed to end with Hale Bopp, then in 2000, then 2001, then last year, now on Dec 21, 2012 next it will be 2032 when Jesus comes back then 2036 when the UNIX time function rolls over (that could screw stuff up). Being wrong 100% of the time doesn't discourge them from making more Dooms Day predictions. I remember Bill Clinton being called the Anti-Christ and now their calling Obama that.
 
2012-04-04 08:50:31 AM  

enry: I'm having trouble finding employees.

/just crossed the Charles into Boston



Perhaps a microbiologist with lab experience (my fiance)?

/don't ask me what kind of lab experience I never listen
 
2012-04-04 09:01:19 AM  

Stibium: Really it may be a more appropriate story than simply running aground. Running aground you know what is hanging your boat up. But this, this was under the water and you'd have no idea whatsoever if you didn't have any boating experience. Seems like what the GOP is doing; running the motor wide open trying to get the boat moving without any idea of what is stopping them.


I don't think they realize they're hung up. They had success at the state level in the last election so they'll be able to germander their way to success in the House for 8 more years. They also have FOX News and Rightwing radio telling them they're doing well. The rightwing doesn't realize how constipated they are.

To go with your boating analogy, the GOP is like the Spanish Armada, they think they're sailing south around England but the current is holding back any real progress. When the winds change, they'll end on the rocks.
 
2012-04-04 09:03:02 AM  
Weirdos.
 
2012-04-04 09:03:25 AM  

Kevin72: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: My favorite part of this whole thing is that the right wingers would absolutely love Wilson. You are aware the groups he oppressed were anarchists and communists, right? He used the Russian Revolution as a bullshiat excuse to wipe out the Wobblies. These farking apes would still be sucking Wilson's cock if they actually understood history.

Not to mention that Wilson was a White Supremacist. Who by the way refused to talk to a Ho Chi Minh when he was in Paris for the Treaty of Versailles about Vietnamese independence because Ho was not White.


And he locked up the suffragettes for daring to want the right to vote.
 
2012-04-04 09:04:17 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Obama set out immediately to create an 'administrator' type of government by naming more than 30 czars that bypassed congressional approval and oversight, each with administrative power and responsible only to the administrator-in-chief

[notthisshiatagain.jpg]

OK, one more time. Let's look at the history of the "Czar"

FDR had 17 czars
between FDR and George W Bush, every President had a single-digit number of czars
GWB had 33 czars
BHO has 38

So, "conservatives," which President exploded the number of czars?

But it only became a problem when the black, muslin demoncrap Usurper in Chief went to the White House


And the idea that "czars" supersede congress, when their budgets must be approved by it, is simply ludicrous.
 
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