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(io9)   After many long weeks of battles and major upsets, io9's national championship match for 'worst sci-fi movie ever' comes down to final two films   (io9.com) divider line 87
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2012-04-03 06:25:37 AM
Decided by people who have never seen Plan 9
 
2012-04-03 06:32:20 AM
Is Battlefield Earth one of the two?

*click*

I'm OK with this.
 
2012-04-03 07:12:17 AM
Aleast BE ( that's what us industry call it) has Forrest Wiskers in it. In all his glory
 
2012-04-03 08:13:11 AM

Majick Thise: Decided by people who have never seen Plan 9


This^

/BE does stink out loud, though
//a worthy second
 
2012-04-03 08:24:57 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Majick Thise: Decided by people who have never seen Plan 9

This^

/BE does stink out loud, though
//a worthy second


It lost in Round One to The Happening it looks like, which I'm OK with.
 
2012-04-03 08:38:24 AM

GAT_00: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Majick Thise: Decided by people who have never seen Plan 9

This^

/BE does stink out loud, though
//a worthy second

It lost in Round One to The Happening it looks like, which I'm OK with.


Oooh, yeah... tough call on that one

/maybe we need "classic" and "modern" categories
 
2012-04-03 09:49:09 AM
Battlefield Earth really was a pretty good book. It's a shame that all the stuff they changed made it a stupid movie. I mean, really. 1000 year old harriers are going to be flyable? And why are missiles and machine guns effective against the aliens when they weren't when they conquered the earth in the first place?

In the book, terl gave them equipment to mine the gold and they used that equipment to steal other gunships and basically they turned alien technology against the aliens.

Still, it's worse than catwoman, which was just horrible, too.
 
2012-04-03 10:03:32 AM

labman: Battlefield Earth really was a pretty good book.


It is actually, and how they learned to fight back actually makes sense. They trained for quite a while and they were actually taught how to use the stuff. The whole nuke the planet and it turns into a sun is stupid, but that's artistic license.

Plus there was the whole second part of the book about intergalactic finance and incest.
 
2012-04-03 10:48:32 AM
I'm guessing none of these people have seen 2020: Texas Gladiators, Warrior of the Lost World or Enemy Mine.
 
2012-04-03 12:20:48 PM
Turning the audio off helps with Catwoman, but not so much with BF:Earth.

That should be the deciding factor, here.
 
2012-04-03 12:22:30 PM
I don't think it's fair that Skyline, Ultaviolet, Dr Moreu and The Last Airbender didn't have to go up against anything!
Pretty lazy bracket making to simply leave certain brackets empty like that!
 
2012-04-03 12:22:50 PM
I'm not getting the criteria here. You could randomly name MST3K sci-fi movies that are worse.

Laserblast? Pod People? The Crawling Eye?
 
2012-04-03 12:23:08 PM
No Mac and Me?


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-03 12:24:11 PM
In general, I have no problem with this (and Plan 9 shouldn't have made it, just because it's so bad that it becomes hilarious, and therefore redeemed), but does Catwoman really qualify as sci-fi? Sure, it's terrible enough, but it doesn't feel like it fits the genre just by virtue of being loosely based on a comic book character.
 
2012-04-03 12:24:59 PM
I could name at least a few dozen truly horrible (low budget) sci-fi movies that were far worse than either of those two movies.


Of the two, I would probably have to say that Catwoman was worse, although the "eye candy" factor probably keeps it from being "all time" bad.
 
2012-04-03 12:25:16 PM
Star Wars?
 
2012-04-03 12:31:21 PM
Catwoman was pretty bad, but mostly just kind of stupid. Battlefield Earth was all that and much more.
 
2012-04-03 12:31:41 PM
Catwoman is sci-fi?
 
2012-04-03 12:32:44 PM
Just don't make me watch either of them.
 
2012-04-03 12:37:48 PM
I was happy wing commander survived the first round. Sure it was pretty cheesy but I was entertained and its hard to find any sci-fi movies with decent space fights. I did just watch an 80s one on amazon streaming. Cant remember the name but It involved some artificially created chick who betrayed the corp she was working for to claim a 2nd alien crashed ship on a distant planet. Hires some weak blonde hair space ship pilot to get there. Now the acting in that was just terrible. Then again it was the 80s.
 
2012-04-03 12:38:51 PM
I think the worst I ever saw was a movie called Andy and the airwave rangers. It was so bad they took bits from other bad sci fi movies and edited them into it. A friend of mine rented it, we ddint even watch it for more than 30 min but it was god awful.
 
2012-04-03 12:41:35 PM
Calls bullshiat.

www.badmovies.org


I really hate these lists. Written and voted on by people who've never seen a movie made before 1977.


/Damn right I'm old.
 
2012-04-03 12:45:52 PM
Well, since Catwoman isn't Sci-Fi the winner is already determined.
 
2012-04-03 12:57:15 PM
the real disappointment for me is that starship troopers wasn't on there.

/do you want to learn more?
 
2012-04-03 01:01:20 PM
If you are into such things, there is an pretty good program/podcast "How did this get made?" that watches these movies and dissects them. It's a nice listen in the office...

Link (new window)
 
2012-04-03 01:07:48 PM
Battlefield Earth was bad, but it was Showgirls bad. It was hyped as Star Wars/Indy Jones/Star Trek/every great movie you've ever seen rolled into one. Sure, it had a lot of "starwipes" to end every scene, way too many tilted camera angles, murdered Barry Pepper's rise to stardom, and was patently ridiculous at every turn... but it wasn't a totally incompetent film like 90% of what MST3K mocks. Or anything Uwe Boll has done.

I say this as someone who rented it with a friend so neither would have the total shame of having rented alone. If I could have paid a kid to shoplift it, I probably would have.
 
2012-04-03 01:08:44 PM

blacknite: the real disappointment for me is that starship troopers wasn't on there.

/do you want to learn more?


I love that movie mainly because it's so cheesy. The dialogue and acting is absolutely atrocious. If there wasn't copious amounts of blood/gore, it would've been pretty unwatchable.

"How do you know?"
"I don't know how I know, but I know."
 
2012-04-03 01:08:45 PM

howdyyall9999: If you are into such things, there is an pretty good program/podcast "How did this get made?" that watches these movies and dissects them. It's a nice listen in the office...

Link (new window)


Direct link the BE podcast: Link (new window)
 
2012-04-03 01:10:29 PM

GAT_00: labman: Battlefield Earth really was a pretty good book.

It is actually, and how they learned to fight back actually makes sense. They trained for quite a while and they were actually taught how to use the stuff. The whole nuke the planet and it turns into a sun is stupid, but that's artistic license.

Plus there was the whole second part of the book about intergalactic finance and incest.


Do you have a newsletter?
 
2012-04-03 01:10:46 PM
FTA: This is it, after many long weeks of battles and MAJOR upsets - Phantom Menace losing to Superman IV!

They have Spider-Man 3 beating out The Matrix Revolutions and they chose that? TPM losing to Superman IV is dignified.

At least I could laugh at Spider-Man 3. I think I may have fallen asleep in the third Matrix movie.
 
2012-04-03 01:24:52 PM

Fano: Battlefield Earth was bad, ... but it wasn't a totally incompetent film like 90% of what MST3K mocks.


The only thing really separating the typical MST3k fare and B:E was B:E's budget. Otherwise it's pretty much the same kind of film.
 
2012-04-03 01:26:16 PM
the worst thing about Battlefield Earth is that it probably turned a lot of people off from reading what is, in my opinion, one of the most highly entertaining science-fiction novels of all time. I've read gobs of sci-fi over the years and while there might be stuff that is more ground breaking, artistic or with better writing, I don't think I've ever quite read anything like it where I pretty much never wanted the story to end. I wish he had made that into a 10 book series instead of Mission Earth.
 
2012-04-03 01:27:48 PM

labman: Battlefield Earth really was a pretty good book. It's a shame that all the stuff they changed made it a stupid movie. I mean, really. 1000 year old harriers are going to be flyable? And why are missiles and machine guns effective against the aliens when they weren't when they conquered the earth in the first place?

In the book, terl gave them equipment to mine the gold and they used that equipment to steal other gunships and basically they turned alien technology against the aliens.



The "we found a bunch of old human tech that's been preserved for 1000 years" is directly taken from the book. It didn't include Harriers, but rifles, absolutely, it was a major plot point. The movie might have expanded on it, but it didn't invent it, that's pure original stupid.


Plus, the second half amounts to "so there's all these alien species, including one that's so much smarter and more devious than all the rest that they're in complete control, but even those brilliant Machiavellian genius-aliens are complete farking morons compared to a bunch of humans who only just rediscovered what reading is."

It's beyond idiotic. It's a deus ex machina except that god is us. Which makes you wonder how the fark humanity ever lost in the first place, or why they were so far behind all the other species in development, if the average human is so much more brilliant than the brightest minds of the smartest species in the galaxy.
 
2012-04-03 01:27:56 PM

rtaylor92: the worst thing about Battlefield Earth is that it probably turned a lot of people off from reading what is, in my opinion, one of the most highly entertaining science-fiction novels of all time. I've read gobs of sci-fi over the years and while there might be stuff that is more ground breaking, artistic or with better writing, I don't think I've ever quite read anything like it where I pretty much never wanted the story to end. I wish he had made that into a 10 book series instead of Mission Earth.


I agree, the book was fantastic. I always thought this would work out as a series given a BSG treatment.
 
2012-04-03 01:33:28 PM
Purple bracket was pretty weak. The others had some tough choices and really terrible movies. I haven't seen maybe half of these, but of the ones I have seen, I'd say these easily deserved a shot at #1:

Jumper
Transformers
Mortal Kombat
Star Trek: Nemesis
Bio-Dome(or anything with Pauly Shore)
Planet of the Apes
Waterworld
 
2012-04-03 01:34:04 PM

rtaylor92: the worst thing about Battlefield Earth is that it probably turned a lot of people off from reading what is, in my opinion, one of the most highly entertaining science-fiction novels of all time.


howdyyall9999: I agree, the book was fantastic. I always thought this would work out as a series given a BSG treatment.



You guys are either Scientologists who feel a desperate need to protect the Master's legacy of horrendous science fiction, or you've never read basically any of the classics in the field.

Battlefield: Earth the movie was awful, because the source text was exactly as awful. It's the Twilight of Science Fiction.
 
2012-04-03 01:34:36 PM
How in the WORLD did The Spirit get only a 4 seed, and lose in the first round? I've watched the majority of these films, and they are bad, but THAT one I couldn't watch more than 15 minutes of before shutting it off to barf.
 
2012-04-03 01:36:33 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Fano: Battlefield Earth was bad, ... but it wasn't a totally incompetent film like 90% of what MST3K mocks.

The only thing really separating the typical MST3k fare and B:E was B:E's budget. Otherwise it's pretty much the same kind of film.


I will confess that while watching my friend and I cackled while saying "they made a movie for 100 million that looks like it was made from 20."

Still, it has just enough polish to keep it from truly competing with the real bottom tier movies. Unless you start asking uncomfortable questions like "what would Ed Wood have done with that much money?"
 
2012-04-03 01:39:33 PM

Thorak: Battlefield: Earth the movie was awful, because the source text was exactly as awful.


It wasn't the greatest thing ever, but it's better than quite a bit of sci-fi.
 
2012-04-03 01:40:35 PM
Battlefield Earth earth was so bad as to have been good. I'll re-watch it when it rears it's ugly head on tv. Catwoman just sucked.
 
2012-04-03 01:43:18 PM
The only contribution Battlefield Earth made to society was the Rifftrax take on it, but even then, it is a journey one should not take lightly.
 
2012-04-03 01:46:45 PM
And then the stars of both go on to work with each other in Swordfish.

/Halle Berry topless is a redeeming quality.
 
2012-04-03 01:46:53 PM
labman: Battlefield Earth really was a pretty good book. It's a shame that all the stuff they changed made it a stupid movie. I mean, really. 1000 year old harriers are going to be flyable? And why are missiles and machine guns effective against the aliens when they weren't when they conquered the earth in the first place?

In the book, terl gave them equipment to mine the gold and they used that equipment to steal other gunships and basically they turned alien technology against the aliens.

Still, it's worse than catwoman, which was just horrible, too.


Or the fact that they invaded Earth to mine.... gold.

You know how much gold is in the asteroid and kupiter belts? And guess what, no pesky humans to babysit. Especially since it seemed they didn't particularly like our atmosphere.


The ONLY thing intra-traveling-space Aliens would want or need in a invasion of Earth is our ecosystem / biosphere. Anything else is a stupid reason. Even thats a stupid reason, since it would suggest Earth like planets are no rare, and finding one without a sentient species would be easier.

Unless maybe they're all space Christians and need to convert us to space Christianity.
 
2012-04-03 01:54:18 PM

GAT_00: Thorak: Battlefield: Earth the movie was awful, because the source text was exactly as awful.

It wasn't the greatest thing ever, but it's better than quite a bit of sci-fi.


When you say "quite a bit of sci-fi", do you mean the actual good stuff, or the cheap pulps?

Because Battlefield: Earth, the book, was an absolutely godawful book. It's terribly written, the characters are wooden where they aren't repulsive-yet-supposed-to-be-heroes, the plot makes no sense whatsoever even as you're reading it, and it's basically two books crammed together.

The first half is pretty standard boilerplate "throw off the alien oppressor" fic, the last half is a completely different novel that's isn't so much a story as masturbatory self-congratulation about how awesome humanity is.

There might be worse out there, but it's not a "good book". It's not even close to the same caliber as actual classics, like Moon is a Harsh Mistress, or 2001, or Rendezvous with Rama. Nor were the ideas especially groundbreaking at the time it was written; Battlefield:Earth was written in 1982. To put that in context, that's the same year Blade Runner hit theaters, and it's right between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. If it were written in the 40s or 50s, or even the 60s, some of the stuff might have been excusable due to the state of the genre, but not in 1982.
 
2012-04-03 02:05:42 PM

EMCGuy: Mortal Kombat


brundleflyonthewall.files.wordpress.com

That's one of the few video game movies that actually did well considering the source. Now if you had said the sequel, you would've had an extremely valid point.
 
2012-04-03 02:10:52 PM

rtaylor92: I wish he had made that into a 10 book series instead of Mission Earth.


Has anyone ever read Mission Earth, or was it just a giant tax-writeoff by Scientology? We would get stacks of those books when I worked in a bookstore in the early 90s and I don't think anyone actually bought one. I tried to read one, it was just awful. I'm assuming they were basically printed in order to get pulped six months later so Miscavage could claim the loss.
 
2012-04-03 02:17:02 PM

blacknite: the real disappointment for me is that starship troopers wasn't on there.

/do you want to learn more?


It was a decent movie, but they should've called it something other than Starship Troopers.

Having read the book, I was really excited to see it at the theater. I was underwhelmed to say the least. I think the only thing they got right were the names. Stupid Hollywood.
 
2012-04-03 02:17:46 PM

dj_spanmaster: How in the WORLD did The Spirit get only a 4 seed, and lose in the first round? I've watched the majority of these films, and they are bad, but THAT one I couldn't watch more than 15 minutes of before shutting it off to barf.


Yep. First movie I've turned off in a long time.. ha ha..


Also... not getting a kick that I farkin worked on two of the final four. Easily a year of my life
flushed down the drain.
 
2012-04-03 02:25:40 PM

theorellior: Has anyone ever read Mission Earth, or was it just a giant tax-writeoff by Scientology?


I read the first volume and found it enjoyable. A professor of mine spotted the book on my desk once and said "Read the rest of them." Probably a Scientologist.
 
2012-04-03 02:54:54 PM

Thorak: GAT_00: Thorak: Battlefield: Earth the movie was awful, because the source text was exactly as awful.

It wasn't the greatest thing ever, but it's better than quite a bit of sci-fi.

When you say "quite a bit of sci-fi", do you mean the actual good stuff, or the cheap pulps?

Because Battlefield: Earth, the book, was an absolutely godawful book. It's terribly written, the characters are wooden where they aren't repulsive-yet-supposed-to-be-heroes, the plot makes no sense whatsoever even as you're reading it, and it's basically two books crammed together.

The first half is pretty standard boilerplate "throw off the alien oppressor" fic, the last half is a completely different novel that's isn't so much a story as masturbatory self-congratulation about how awesome humanity is.

There might be worse out there, but it's not a "good book". It's not even close to the same caliber as actual classics, like Moon is a Harsh Mistress, or 2001, or Rendezvous with Rama. Nor were the ideas especially groundbreaking at the time it was written; Battlefield:Earth was written in 1982. To put that in context, that's the same year Blade Runner hit theaters, and it's right between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. If it were written in the 40s or 50s, or even the 60s, some of the stuff might have been excusable due to the state of the genre, but not in 1982.




I disagree, therefore you are wrong.

Loved the book, the movie was hard to watch.

Stop hating things I like.
 
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