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(Onion AV Club)   Neil deGrasse Tyson informs James Cameron that Rose would not have seen that particular star field floating on a door after Titanic's sinking. Cameron changes it to Tyson's specifications for the 3D rerelease   (avclub.com) divider line 81
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2012-04-02 06:55:09 PM  
That's pretty farking cool all around.
 
2012-04-02 06:55:45 PM  
blogs.sfweekly.com
 
2012-04-02 06:58:33 PM  
That guy has waaaay too much power ;)
 
2012-04-02 07:11:40 PM  
images.nonexiste.net

He's basically Forrest Whitaker from Fast Times. Don't f*ck with NDT.
 
2012-04-02 07:14:31 PM  

SilentStrider: That guy has waaaay too much power ;)


Neil deGrasse Tyson, or James Cameron? They both swing a pretty big stick.
 
2012-04-02 07:23:55 PM  
boingboing.net
 
2012-04-02 07:26:53 PM  
So he's not going to change the movie so that the story doesn't fail to make any farking sense whatsoever?
 
2012-04-02 07:30:16 PM  

mitchcumstein1: SilentStrider: That guy has waaaay too much power ;)

Neil deGrasse Tyson, or James Cameron? They both swing a pretty big stick.


deGrasse Tyson is who I meant.
 
2012-04-02 07:32:23 PM  
Too bad an oceanographer didn't point out to Cameron that the ocean isn't completely flat and still with no swell or tidal motion whatsoever.

Maybe he would have changed that too, instead of it looking like painted up actors floating in a giant tank of still water, which it was.
 
2012-04-02 07:34:20 PM  
That's neat and all, but deGrasse-Tyson is probably one of a very, veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery narrow segment of the population who was bothered by this.

Still. Cool.
 
2012-04-02 07:48:14 PM  
J.R.R. Tolkien, while editing Lord of the Rings, noticed that he had two different phases of the moon for the same date at two different locations. He fixed it by counting out the days and finding out which phase would have been correct.

/Some artists have that much passion for detail
 
2012-04-02 07:59:49 PM  
Good on him, but... I'm kinda disappointed that Neil deGrasse Tyson would waste his time on Titanic.

It's mildly disillusioning.
 
2012-04-02 08:01:03 PM  

SilentStrider: mitchcumstein1: SilentStrider: That guy has waaaay too much power ;)

Neil deGrasse Tyson, or James Cameron? They both swing a pretty big stick.

deGrasse Tyson is who I meant.


Until Tyson's declared Emperor of Earth, I refuse to entertain the notion that he might have too much power.
 
2012-04-02 08:02:24 PM  

susansto-helit: SilentStrider: mitchcumstein1: SilentStrider: That guy has waaaay too much power ;)

Neil deGrasse Tyson, or James Cameron? They both swing a pretty big stick.

deGrasse Tyson is who I meant.

Until Tyson's declared Emperor of Earth, I refuse to entertain the notion that he might have too much power.


sorry, he'll have to get through Weird Al first.
 
2012-04-02 08:12:05 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Good on him, but... I'm kinda disappointed that Neil deGrasse Tyson would waste his time on Titanic.

It's mildly disillusioning.


Are you kidding? He told Cameron that his movie sucked and used science to prove it. Scientifically proven snark is 56.5% more insulting and burns 42% longer. You can't argue with science.
 
2012-04-02 08:26:08 PM  

penthesilea: Are you kidding? He told Cameron that his movie sucked and used science to prove it. Scientifically proven snark is 56.5% more insulting and burns 42% longer. You can't argue with science.


Still, it's time wasted on Titanic. Time he'll never get back, time he could've spent being awesome elsewhere.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone, especially NdT.

...

... at the same time, I'd like to see him rip Avatar a new one with science.
 
2012-04-02 08:26:15 PM  

WhyteRaven74: [boingboing.net image 521x515]


Not bad, but I like him older, chubbier and wearing one of his awesome vests. Like in this video.
 
2012-04-02 08:29:42 PM  
Cameron must have realized that he was dealing with a badass.
 
2012-04-02 08:32:36 PM  
Didn't Cameron intentionally put the Heart of the Ocean in the shape of the starts while she was looking up?
 
2012-04-02 08:35:48 PM  
If Tyson had enough power, perhaps he should have stopped Cameron from re-releasing the movie.
 
2012-04-02 08:39:13 PM  
Also, all that water flooding into the ship, and not one piece of seaweed, kelp or debris; not one fish. And the water flooding the hallways and rooms and Captain's quarters was crystal clear, like it just came from a Sparklett's bottle instead of being a briny, bubbly liquid from the sea. Not to mention that until they were in the ocean, no one on the ship really reacted all that much to the chill of the 33 degree water they were wading through. An occasional shiver and that was it.
 
2012-04-02 08:51:55 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: If Tyson had enough power, perhaps he should have stopped Cameron from re-releasing the movie.


Oh, if only, amigo...
 
2012-04-02 08:55:24 PM  

mitchcumstein1: SilentStrider: That guy has waaaay too much power ;)

Neil deGrasse Tyson, or James Cameron? They both swing a pretty big stick.


I bet NDT's stick is bigger than Cameron's.

/wink, wink, nudge, nudge
 
2012-04-02 08:56:37 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Also, all that water flooding into the ship, and not one piece of seaweed, kelp or debris; not one fish.


Hey! Kurt Paxton knows WTF he's doing.
 
2012-04-02 08:57:16 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Also, all that water flooding into the ship, and not one piece of seaweed, kelp or debris; not one fish. And the water flooding the hallways and rooms and Captain's quarters was crystal clear, like it just came from a Sparklett's bottle instead of being a briny, bubbly liquid from the sea. Not to mention that until they were in the ocean, no one on the ship really reacted all that much to the chill of the 33 degree water they were wading through. An occasional shiver and that was it.


It's clear you are not a mariner. All that crap in the ocean you mention is in the coastal areas, the deep ocean is a desert barren of life, it wouldn't make much sense to see fish or kelp or anything else in it.
 
2012-04-02 09:01:03 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Good on him, but... I'm kinda disappointed that Neil deGrasse Tyson would waste his time on Titanic.

It's mildly disillusioning.


I know TFA has a video, probably of the story behind this, but I like this telling better (new window). Skip to about 34:00 for the story.
 
2012-04-02 09:08:37 PM  
Yes, because that was the reality that was missing from the movie...
 
mhd
2012-04-02 09:10:26 PM  
TFA: "And while Cameron certainly could have ignored Tyson's email, or purchased him[...]"

i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-02 09:15:05 PM  
Stars in 3D? How does that work?
 
2012-04-02 09:15:29 PM  
SPOILER! Titanic sinks, Leo dies, and she throws the farking rock back in the ocean after all.

Oh, and the charcoal drawing survives 70 years underwater.

Very cool to see this change actually happen. Was fun listening to his podcasts about it.
 
2012-04-02 09:16:03 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener


Still, it's time wasted on Titanic. Time he'll never get back, time he could've spent being awesome elsewhere.


Counterpoint: if he can be awesome and actually get people to learn a little something by tying science to pop culture, there are worse ways he could spend his time.
 
2012-04-02 09:18:27 PM  

mhd: TFA: "And while Cameron certainly could have ignored Tyson's email, or purchased him[...]"

[i.imgur.com image 150x134]


No, that's just Cameron. Dude has enough money he can buy whoever he wants.
 
2012-04-02 09:21:40 PM  
"at that time of year, in that position in the Atlantic in 1912, when Rose is lying on the piece of driftwood and staring up at the stars, that is not the star field she would have seen."

Aurora Borealis? At this time of year? A this time of day? In this part of the country? Localized entirely within your kitchen?
 
2012-04-02 09:22:50 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: no one on the ship really reacted all that much to the chill of the 33 degree water they were wading through.


Stress and emotional shock have that effect on people.
 
2012-04-02 09:23:27 PM  

susansto-helit: SilentStrider: mitchcumstein1: SilentStrider: That guy has waaaay too much power ;)

Neil deGrasse Tyson, or James Cameron? They both swing a pretty big stick.

deGrasse Tyson is who I meant.

Until Tyson's declared Emperor of Earth, I refuse to entertain the notion that he might have too much power.


I'd vote for him. You meant Mike, right?
 
2012-04-02 09:26:50 PM  
Shoulda left it alone.

/cinema purist
/yes, even for Titanic
 
2012-04-02 09:31:08 PM  
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-04-02 09:32:22 PM  
Aw crap, I should have RTFA before posting the exact same image it uses.
 
2012-04-02 09:41:56 PM  
I love those old photos of NdGT. You know he was black as FARK back in the day. He got all kinds of honky ass back in the 70's. Smart as a master's whip, speaks well, handsome, and dark enough to piss off daddy.

I always kind of hope that powerful black men like him and Barry would just lose dey minds once, just once, and on camera.

Colin Powell gettin thuggish? I'd buy that for a dollar.

Barry Obama with a square hanging out of his mouth? Win.

Neil drinking a grape soda? Oh yeah.
 
2012-04-02 09:43:27 PM  

haemaker: [blogs.sfweekly.com image 400x353]


Well, I see that the thread is over...
 
2012-04-02 10:05:32 PM  

zato_ichi: Neil drinking a grape soda

purple drank!
 
2012-04-02 10:25:34 PM  

mitchcumstein1: That's pretty farking cool all around.


except he gave away the ending.
spoiler alert next time subby.
 
2012-04-02 10:26:02 PM  
That "It grossed 1.4 billion dollars" line kind of makes Cameron sound like a dick.
 
2012-04-02 10:35:13 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

And also:

i.istockimg.com
 
2012-04-02 10:39:31 PM  

zato_ichi: I love those old photos of NdGT. You know he was black as FARK back in the day. He got all kinds of honky ass back in the 70's. Smart as a master's whip, speaks well, handsome, and dark enough to piss off daddy.

I always kind of hope that powerful black men like him and Barry would just lose dey minds once, just once, and on camera.

Colin Powell gettin thuggish? I'd buy that for a dollar.

Barry Obama with a square hanging out of his mouth? Win.

Neil drinking a grape soda? Oh yeah.


What the fark?
 
2012-04-02 10:40:15 PM  

Sabyen91: Yes, because that was the reality that was missing from the movie...


Hey, it was Cameron's fault that he touted the movie as being soooo accurate. NDT simply pointed out that the star field for that day, time, and location was known and it should have been used in the interest of accuracy, with a little cherry of snark on top.
 
2012-04-02 10:45:59 PM  

vrax: Sabyen91: Yes, because that was the reality that was missing from the movie...

Hey, it was Cameron's fault that he touted the movie as being soooo accurate. NDT simply pointed out that the star field for that day, time, and location was known and it should have been used in the interest of accuracy, with a little cherry of snark on top.


I must be a star racist, because most of them look alike to me. It boggles my mind that someone can figure these things out.
 
2012-04-02 10:46:30 PM  
I'm a member of the church of NdGT, but his "fixing small problems" time might have been better spent getting his planetarium show redubbed by someone other than moon-landing hoaxer Whoopie Goldberg. Or at least getting her to make a correction on her show at least as prominent as the error.
 
2012-04-02 11:00:36 PM  

B.L.Z. Bub: vrax: Sabyen91: Yes, because that was the reality that was missing from the movie...

Hey, it was Cameron's fault that he touted the movie as being soooo accurate. NDT simply pointed out that the star field for that day, time, and location was known and it should have been used in the interest of accuracy, with a little cherry of snark on top.

I must be a star racist, because most of them look alike to me. It boggles my mind that someone can figure these things out.


NDT said that the original star field also looked like ass. It wasn't just wrong, but it was really bad. IIRC that was what really bugged him and got him thinking about how there's no reason not to have the correct sky.
 
2012-04-02 11:04:41 PM  
It still doesn't alter the fact that the romance as portrayed in the movie WAS IMPOSSIBLE!
Steerage passengers had to stay behind physical barriers. They never even SAW a first class passenger let alone being allowed to mingle with one on the decks. One of the reason so many steerage passengers died is because the crew literally FORGOT about them. The crew's entire focus was to meet the needs of the first class passengers to the exclusion of all others.
Rose and Jack would have NEVER met in real life.
 
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