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2012-04-02 07:43:51 PM  
While the Oakland shooting was taking place, Oaksterdam University was raided by the DEA and IRS. Isn't it nice to know where the priorities of our police lie?
 
2012-04-02 07:44:22 PM  

NightOwl2255: The 385 in Beslan was a terrorist attack by well armed soldiers. Not really like the others.


If you factor in race, shoe size, population density, number of vegetarians per capita and age then Europe has much much more gun violence than the USA.
 
2012-04-02 07:45:11 PM  

DavidVincent: Safeway employees who did not give their names said the suspect had told a store staffer that he had shot people and needed to be arrested.

Now, about that insanity plea......

[farm1.static.flickr.com image 339x500]


Was that the Safeway over on Fruitvale?
 
2012-04-02 07:45:13 PM  

jarmst: y_o_u___u: Most of the people who comment here are no better than the shooter. If words were bullets you mass murder Christians on a daily basis for sport. Y'all are nothing but a bunch of heartless ignorant bastards. You know it and you revel in it. Enjoy it while it lasts... one day the party's gonna be over. I'm sure a select few of you out there are happy about this happening. Snark and troll all you want but what goes around comes around pal.

Wow...threadshiatting. Look at you, with the big-boy pants all pulled up, and the righteous indignation and the letting everyone know how mature you are compared to the rest of us! Awww, it's almost sweet...

Shut up. idiot. "Most of the people who comment here are no better than the shooter?" Seriously? Only if you actually believe that "snarky attitude concerning a distant tragic slaughter" ACTUALLY CAN BE EQUIVOCATED to "going out and slaughtering people."

On the Planet of Adult Humans, there is no such equivocation. In the recesses of the 'Tardville Nebula, apparently there is.

Generally, I'd be more forgiving...but your slack-jaw "outrage" combined the worst of threadshiatting, fake persecution complex, and fake "karmic comeuppance" nonsense.

Are you eight years old? If so, then you could be forgiven for the post. But otherwise...damn.

Nobody needs your pretense at being a defender of Christianity, Christians, or good values. You are weak.


oh just admit it, if you could push a button that killed every christian in the world you'd do it
 
2012-04-02 07:45:14 PM  
cerulean blue
 
2012-04-02 07:46:02 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: y_o_u___u: Most of the people who comment here are no better than the shooter.

That's true. Why, just last week week I shot up a school and killed 6 people.


Well, you're clearly worse. If you tried harder or had a decent work ethic, you could have hit 8 or 9.
 
2012-04-02 07:46:32 PM  

detritus: While the Oakland shooting was taking place, Oaksterdam University was raided by the DEA and IRS. Isn't it nice to know where the priorities of our police lie?


Let Timmy smoke!
 
2012-04-02 07:47:37 PM  

y_o_u___u: jarmst: y_o_u___u: Most of the people who comment here are no better than the shooter. If words were bullets you mass murder Christians on a daily basis for sport. Y'all are nothing but a bunch of heartless ignorant bastards. You know it and you revel in it. Enjoy it while it lasts... one day the party's gonna be over. I'm sure a select few of you out there are happy about this happening. Snark and troll all you want but what goes around comes around pal.

Wow...threadshiatting. Look at you, with the big-boy pants all pulled up, and the righteous indignation and the letting everyone know how mature you are compared to the rest of us! Awww, it's almost sweet...

Shut up. idiot. "Most of the people who comment here are no better than the shooter?" Seriously? Only if you actually believe that "snarky attitude concerning a distant tragic slaughter" ACTUALLY CAN BE EQUIVOCATED to "going out and slaughtering people."

On the Planet of Adult Humans, there is no such equivocation. In the recesses of the 'Tardville Nebula, apparently there is.

Generally, I'd be more forgiving...but your slack-jaw "outrage" combined the worst of threadshiatting, fake persecution complex, and fake "karmic comeuppance" nonsense.

Are you eight years old? If so, then you could be forgiven for the post. But otherwise...damn.

Nobody needs your pretense at being a defender of Christianity, Christians, or good values. You are weak.

oh just admit it, if you could push a button that killed every christian in the world you'd do it


I think a mute button would be sufficient for most .
 
2012-04-02 07:48:38 PM  

y_o_u___u: oh just admit it, if you could push a button that killed every christian human in the world you'd do it


Why leave work only half done?
 
2012-04-02 07:48:42 PM  

jarmst: On the Planet of Adult Humans, there is no such equivocation. In the recesses of the 'Tardville Nebula, apparently there is.


mimg.ugo.com

He tasks me! He tasks me, and I shall have him! I'll chase him round the Tardville Nebula, and round the Antares Maelstrom, and round perdition's flames before I give him up!
 
2012-04-02 07:49:27 PM  
Disparate is as disparate does.

;)
 
2012-04-02 07:49:48 PM  
Alahu Ak...oh wait, wrong bad guy. GOD IS ALMIGHTY! There you go.
 
2012-04-02 07:50:46 PM  

y_o_u___u: whconner4: Let's wait three days before getting too upset.

yea cuz thats what you would do if it was your child


Fail.


Magorn: This is what Jesus actually meant when he said "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth"

The Greek word used for "meek' is one that was largely used in a military context to mean a horse that had been sufficiently trained to be used in battle. To be considered Meek the horse had to stand still while a torch was passed in front of its eyes and under its belly. In other words "Blessed are those that stand their ground no matter what, they shall inherit the earth"


I did not know that, and therefore that quote makes MUCH more sense now. That's odd, though, I wonder if the word changed etymology over time, or if it was a mistranslation of some sort, 'cause the modern version of "meek" basically means to be timid and shy, not stolid and resolute. :-\

Me? I believe, but I also believe deeply that since the Good Lord gave me a self-preservation instinct, it would be rude not to use it to its fullest in such situations

I'm a crazy farker and grew up in Stockton. If someone puts rounds downrange at me, I'd probably go all, "FARK YOU, I'M'A CUT YOU, ESE!" Or, due to years of D&D, "ROLL FOR INITIATIVE, ASSHOLE!" Either way, I'd probably have a couple of nifty bullet-wound scars and a great story to tell at the bar later. :D
 
2012-04-02 07:50:51 PM  
Sorry, but it needed to be done, and yes, I will need a window seat:

i.imgur.com

/really, condolences to the families and victims
//murder sucks
 
2012-04-02 07:50:54 PM  
regardless you will give account for every idle word before the Father, and you will remember my words for the rest of eternity. love is the answer. pity your mother didn't teach you better than to make fun of the dead.
 
2012-04-02 07:51:13 PM  

tortilla burger: From the USA Today story on the same thing Link (new window): Deborah Lee, who was in an English language class at the time, said she heard five to six gunshots at first. "The teacher said, 'Run,' and we run," she said. "I was OK, because I know God protects me."

People really need to stop with the whole, "God is protecting me" bit. Are you saying that God decided not to protect the 7 dead to cover your sorry ass?


two "jokes"/stories/koans that seem apropos

Once apon a time there was a man that lived by the river. He heard a radio report that the river was going to rush up and flood the town. The report said that the whole town should evacuate immediately. But the man said, "I'm religious, I pray. God loves me. God will save me." But the waters began to rise. A man in a rowing boat came along and he shouted. 'Hey! Hey you! You up there. The town is flooding. I can take you to safety.' But the man shouted back: "I'm religious, I pray. God loves me. God will save me." A helicopter came hovering overhead. A guy with a megaphone shouted. 'Hey! You there! The town is fully flooded. Let me drop down a ladder and I will help you to safety.' But the men shouted back that he was religious, that he prayed, that God loved him and that God would take him to safety. The man then drownned. When he got to the pearly gates of St Peter, he demanded an audience with God. 'Lord,' he said, 'I'm a religious man, I pray. I thought you loved me. Why did this happen?' God said, 'I sent you a radio report, a helicopter, and a guy in a rowing boat. What on earth are you doing here?'


A young Buddhist monk and his teacher are meditating in a marketplace when the teacher sees an elephant in must break free from its stall and begin rampaging towards him and his student. the master jumps out of the way and calls a warning to his student who does not move but continues serenely meditating. He is of course trampled and mortally wounded by the elephant. the master comes rushing to his side in grief and says "did you not hear me shout a warning? why didn't you move?"
The student replies "because, master, I knew that the elephant, like all material things was Maya (illusion) and I knew therefore that it could not hurt me "

"Oh my foolish boy" the master replies "Yes the elephant is Maya, but so are you
 
2012-04-02 07:53:09 PM  

Burr: Philip J. Fry: Holy fark irresponsible editor on scene choosing an image with dead bodies. Don't need to see the feet of the deceased to capture the essence of the story.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 300x238]

Sometimes, a picture is worth a thousand words...


This... also, our culture is totally in love with death and carnage... If you really love death and carnage, look at it... Don't be a hypocrite.
 
2012-04-02 07:53:56 PM  

y_o_u___u: love IS the law yknow.


Finally, someone here to stand up for good religious morality.
 
2012-04-02 07:54:12 PM  

RexTalionis: Magorn: Bit'O'Gristle: Authorities had described the gunman as an Asian man with a heavy build and wearing khaki clothing.

/What is it with you asian dudes dropping out of the college, then getting all shooty? Seriously..wtf is your major malfunction numbnuts?

//All snark aside,,and it was snark, so don't come to my house and get all shooty, this is a terrible shame, and i hope that everyone involved gets whatever help is possible. To the shooter, i hope you die in a fire. A slow roasting one. At least they caught this prick alive. Guys like this generally pussy out and kill themselves after a spree killing.

Family pressure, I think, the Nursing thing is telling because it seems to be the traditional Korean equivalent of a "safety profession". The one piece of good karma I may have earned in my life involved talking a now famous cartoonist and always extremely talented comic book writer of Korean descent out of caving in to family pressures and giving up cartooning and enrolling in nursing school (and mind you this was few weeks after he'd won a prestigious national award for best college newspaper cartoon)

Frank Cho?


that was who came to mind first for me as well

/have a signed copy of one of the Liberty Meadows books
 
2012-04-02 07:54:57 PM  

Metalupis: RexTalionis: Magorn: Bit'O'Gristle: Authorities had described the gunman as an Asian man with a heavy build and wearing khaki clothing.

/What is it with you asian dudes dropping out of the college, then getting all shooty? Seriously..wtf is your major malfunction numbnuts?

//All snark aside,,and it was snark, so don't come to my house and get all shooty, this is a terrible shame, and i hope that everyone involved gets whatever help is possible. To the shooter, i hope you die in a fire. A slow roasting one. At least they caught this prick alive. Guys like this generally pussy out and kill themselves after a spree killing.

Family pressure, I think, the Nursing thing is telling because it seems to be the traditional Korean equivalent of a "safety profession". The one piece of good karma I may have earned in my life involved talking a now famous cartoonist and always extremely talented comic book writer of Korean descent out of caving in to family pressures and giving up cartooning and enrolling in nursing school (and mind you this was few weeks after he'd won a prestigious national award for best college newspaper cartoon)

Frank Cho?

that was who came to mind first for me as well

/have a signed copy of one of the Liberty Meadows books


So do I.
 
2012-04-02 07:55:31 PM  

y_o_u___u: regardless you will give account for every idle word before the Father, and you will remember my words for the rest of eternity. love is the answer. pity your mother didn't teach you better than to make fun of the dead.


You're sooooooooooo righteous.

Keep spreading the word. You are exactly the type of messenger that any faith needs.


/before you reply, "...love is the answer."
 
2012-04-02 07:55:32 PM  
Christians and guns together in sweet harmony.
 
2012-04-02 07:56:23 PM  

y_o_u___u: Most of the people who comment here are no better than the shooter. If words were bullets you mass murder Christians on a daily basis for sport. Y'all are nothing but a bunch of heartless ignorant bastards. You know it and you revel in it. Enjoy it while it lasts... one day the party's gonna be over. I'm sure a select few of you out there are happy about this happening. Snark and troll all you want but what goes around comes around pal.


Excellent bait! You sure got a lot of bites! I sure like your misdirect at the end where you accuse others of trolling.

Hunting Christians is a catch-and-release sport. They need to be alive for you to relish their humiliation and outrage from mocking their religion. Christians are easily provoked. That is the fun part.

As for getting a taste of the same medicine, that is simply not going to happen. First off, Christians are mostly humor-impaired, so they aren't very good at mocking atheists. Second, arguments from Christians suck. They have zero evidence and are terrible at debate. They get skunked every time and most flee from argument.

All that's really left is needling, mocking and goading Christians. Which is lots of fun!
 
2012-04-02 07:56:59 PM  

zorlack7: Burr: Philip J. Fry: Holy fark irresponsible editor on scene choosing an image with dead bodies. Don't need to see the feet of the deceased to capture the essence of the story.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 300x238]

Sometimes, a picture is worth a thousand words...

This... also, our culture is totally in love with death and carnage... If you really love death and carnage, look at it... Don't be a hypocrite.


But don't show a boobie. Those are degrading and damaging to society!
 
2012-04-02 08:00:48 PM  
Murder is beyond abominable. There's nothing clever to say ITT. If you think you're being clever when it comes to a killer, I invite you to strongly reconsider everything about your life.
 
2012-04-02 08:01:27 PM  

casual disregard: Murder is beyond abominable. There's nothing clever to say ITT. If you think you're being clever when it comes to a killer, I invite you to strongly reconsider everything about your life.


this
 
2012-04-02 08:06:29 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: y_o_u___u: Most of the people who comment here are no better than the shooter.

That's true. Why, just last week week I shot up a school and killed 6 people.


i18.photobucket.com

Approves.
 
2012-04-02 08:08:50 PM  

casual disregard: Murder is beyond abominable. There's nothing clever to say ITT. If you think you're being clever when it comes to a killer, I invite you to strongly reconsider everything about your life.


i581.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-02 08:08:57 PM  
~100 students does not a college make...
 
2012-04-02 08:09:18 PM  

RexTalionis: Metalupis: RexTalionis: Magorn: Bit'O'Gristle: Authorities had described the gunman as an Asian man with a heavy build and wearing khaki clothing.

/What is it with you asian dudes dropping out of the college, then getting all shooty? Seriously..wtf is your major malfunction numbnuts?

//All snark aside,,and it was snark, so don't come to my house and get all shooty, this is a terrible shame, and i hope that everyone involved gets whatever help is possible. To the shooter, i hope you die in a fire. A slow roasting one. At least they caught this prick alive. Guys like this generally pussy out and kill themselves after a spree killing.

Family pressure, I think, the Nursing thing is telling because it seems to be the traditional Korean equivalent of a "safety profession". The one piece of good karma I may have earned in my life involved talking a now famous cartoonist and always extremely talented comic book writer of Korean descent out of caving in to family pressures and giving up cartooning and enrolling in nursing school (and mind you this was few weeks after he'd won a prestigious national award for best college newspaper cartoon)

Frank Cho?

that was who came to mind first for me as well

/have a signed copy of one of the Liberty Meadows books

So do I.



Well since there aren't a lot of folks who fit that description I suppose that wasn't too hard. But yeah, back in college he very nearly gave up cartooning and art in general since his parents didn't really see it as a proper profession despite his insane talent and all the awards he was winning even then. They put enormous pressure on him to study for a a "real job" instead and "get serious about life". I like to think I was at least one of the the "bad influences" that helped him say "fark all that noise" and follow his dream instead


/one of my prized possessions is a caricature he drew of me one day when he was bored and hanging out at the newspaper office. Even back then we used to fight over the desk blotter pages he doodled on
 
2012-04-02 08:09:40 PM  
If Jesus were armed this never would have happened.
 
2012-04-02 08:10:25 PM  
Typically, the Asians in America are working hard to be better than white people at everything.

What next? An Asian Miss America?
 
2012-04-02 08:11:02 PM  
this guy sounds like a real poo poo pants.
 
2012-04-02 08:11:48 PM  

ShamWowofDamocles: y_o_u___u: regardless you will give account for every idle word before the Father, and you will remember my words for the rest of eternity. love is the answer. pity your mother didn't teach you better than to make fun of the dead.

You're sooooooooooo righteous.

Keep spreading the word. You are exactly the type of messenger that any faith needs.

/before you reply, "...love is the answer."


its a thankless job but someone's gotta do it
 
2012-04-02 08:12:38 PM  

Potatoe: These mass shootings are becoming frequent events.


Thanks, Rick.

/at least now they qualify for that 'everlasting life' now, since they're dead
//what a stupid requirement, amirite?
 
2012-04-02 08:15:23 PM  
Has there been a huge earthquake? When did Oakland move to L.A.?
 
2012-04-02 08:17:40 PM  
Oh, it wuz the Safeway in Alameda where they snagged him.
 
2012-04-02 08:24:04 PM  

gojirast: casual disregard: Murder is beyond abominable. There's nothing clever to say ITT. If you think you're being clever when it comes to a killer, I invite you to strongly reconsider everything about your life.

[i581.photobucket.com image 340x454]


Clever girl.
 
2012-04-02 08:25:21 PM  

eraser8: I asked this question in another thread that didn't go green...so, I'll ask again here: what does it mean for a college to be "Christian?"


Not much, really. It means you have to take a couple Christian studies type classes as part of your undergrad coursework. I went to a Jesuit university for my MBA and didn't have to take any of that, though. We had to do some work at a soup kitchen for 1 class, but no God talk. Not even when Father whatshisname was around.
 
2012-04-02 08:30:18 PM  

Ed Finnerty: If Jesus were armed this never would have happened.


Well, He should have armed Himself.
 
2012-04-02 08:37:57 PM  

y_o_u___u: whconner4: Let's wait three days before getting too upset.

yea cuz thats what you would do if it was your child


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-02 08:41:01 PM  

phrawgh: Ed Finnerty: If Jesus were armed this never would have happened.

Well, He should have armed Himself.


But do the birds worry about filling clips and stocking ammo?
 
2012-04-02 08:44:12 PM  

Weaver95: apparenlty, it means you're a target for mass murdering dick holes like this guy.


Hey now, murdering religitards, he can't be that bad.

/thanks, dude!
//they should all line up, f*cking morons
 
2012-04-02 08:45:35 PM  

y_o_u___u: casual disregard: Murder is beyond abominable. There's nothing clever to say ITT. If you think you're being clever when it comes to a killer, I invite you to strongly reconsider everything about your life.

this


You guys must be new around here.

Suggestion: Leave and don't come back
 
2012-04-02 08:47:27 PM  

eraser8: umad: Or if being a Christian college affects their curriculum. Oh well, I guess nobody wants to answer. I suppose I will just have to go ask again in a few other threads.

1) Are you going to answer the original question?

2) Are you going to admit not being very well equipped to answer the question?

3) Are you going to admit to being a jackass?

Keep in mind that if I wanted to rely on the ordinary internet answers, I wouldn't have bothered asking Fark.


Why so mad bruh? That is all I am doing too, asking questions. Using google is hard. Reading the article linked to the thread that we are posting in right now is hard. Like you, I attempted to read it, but my Down Syndrome foiled any chance of comprehending the material. I guess we will never know if a Christian school has a Christian curriculum. Or if they teach English or nursing.

/the suspense is killing me too
 
2012-04-02 08:49:41 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: y_o_u___u: casual disregard: Murder is beyond abominable. There's nothing clever to say ITT. If you think you're being clever when it comes to a killer, I invite you to strongly reconsider everything about your life.

this

You guys must be new around here.

Suggestion: Leave and don't come back


better idea - repent
 
2012-04-02 08:51:27 PM  
When will all this christian violence end?
 
2012-04-02 08:52:06 PM  
Not cool. Sounds like a place where people get together to learn to help people.

/Not in a long time have people in Oakland been glad to see the cops swarming.
 
2012-04-02 09:01:24 PM  

y_o_u___u:

better idea - repent


That reminds me, I need to troll some xian sites again. Thanks for the reminder!
 
2012-04-02 09:03:34 PM  
I guess they were right; they are being persecuted.

/for good reason
//put down the bronze age mythological beliefs because nobody understood how the f*ck physics worked and pick up a book, you might learn something...
///lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
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