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(Telegraph)   Ministers in the UK to introduce a major expansion of the Government's powers to monitor everything of every person that uses the Internet in "real time". It's for your own good 'citizens'   (telegraph.co.uk ) divider line
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2012-04-02 12:30:57 PM  
I'm starting to think the UK deserves the Nanny State label.
 
2012-04-02 12:41:06 PM  

Cythraul: I'm starting to think the UK deserves the Nanny State label.


GCHQ isn't a nanny, it's more like a vindictive nun with boundary issues.
 
2012-04-02 12:41:35 PM  
Fake:
img.photobucket.com

Real:
img.photobucket.com

Also real:
img.photobucket.com

/scary
 
2012-04-02 01:22:23 PM  
when do the "but every other country in the world has it, like China" show up to argue for this in the USA like they do with health care?
 
2012-04-02 02:31:23 PM  
When did we start living in a game of Paranoia?

/I only have 1 clone left...
 
2012-04-02 02:31:40 PM  
Some observations:

1) The UK is so broke they're slashing services left and right.
2) This will cost a lot of money.
3) Someone will have to pay for it.
4) It may be illegal.
 
2012-04-02 02:31:49 PM  
At this juncture I would usually add 'Tory scum' to this thread. However, this is simply a re-hash of a (then defeated) Labour policy.

They're all in it together.
 
2012-04-02 02:31:53 PM  
Why? Because we can, you idiot.
 
2012-04-02 02:32:12 PM  
I thought they were called "subjects" in the UK, not citizens.
 
2012-04-02 02:33:23 PM  
OK, DNRTFA but you don't need to use single quotes (') unless you are nesting a quote inside another, regular quote ("). That is all.
 
2012-04-02 02:33:25 PM  

spacekimono.files.wordpress.com



George Orwell's "1984" was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.
 
2012-04-02 02:33:26 PM  
Tor?

Secure VPN?
 
2012-04-02 02:34:16 PM  
The UK is 5 years ahead of the US.
 
2012-04-02 02:34:19 PM  

gaslight: Some observations:

1) The UK is so broke they're slashing services left and right.
2) This will cost a lot of money.
3) Someone will have to pay for it.
4) It may be illegal.


They'll just raise taxes! Duh! Free money!
 
2012-04-02 02:34:36 PM  

hp6sa: I thought they were called "subjects" in the UK, not citizens.


It's cute how we still pretend to have "democracies," even as they slap tighter and tighter fascist elements into place.
 
2012-04-02 02:35:49 PM  
All the smart people left the UK over a century ago. Mostly back in the 1600-1700s.
 
2012-04-02 02:36:11 PM  
This is why I don't trust people who say the US constitution is a "living, breathing document" or it is "out of date".
 
2012-04-02 02:36:16 PM  

upload.wikimedia.org

"My fellow Englishmen: tonight our country, that which we stand for, and all we hold dear, faces a grave and terrible threat. This violent and unparalleled assault on our security will not go undefended... or unpunished. Our enemy is an insidious one, seeking to divide us and destroy the very foundation of our great nation. Tonight, we must remain steadfast. We must remain determined. But most of all, we must remain united. Those caught tonight in violation of curfew will be considered in league with our enemy and prosecuted as a terrorist without leniency or exception. Tonight, I give you my most solemn vow: that justice will be swift, it will be righteous, and it will be without mercy."

-- Adam Sutler

 
2012-04-02 02:37:52 PM  
The UK doesn't have citizens, it has subjects.
 
2012-04-02 02:38:22 PM  
Arg!

How many times must we repeat this, so people will understand?:

The Book "1984" was a warning, NOT an instruction manual!
 
2012-04-02 02:38:32 PM  

DavidVincent: This is why I don't trust people who say the US constitution is a "living, breathing document" or it is "out of date".


What does this have to do with the US Constitution?
 
2012-04-02 02:39:29 PM  
I'm waiting to see how the traitor Clegg capitulates and votes in favour of this, even though he could stick to his principles and vote against it without risking it not passing.
 
2012-04-02 02:39:56 PM  
We Americans shouldn't laugh at the UK. We have "homeland security"


karendecoster.com
 
2012-04-02 02:40:28 PM  

Cythraul: DavidVincent: This is why I don't trust people who say the US constitution is a "living, breathing document" or it is "out of date".

What does this have to do with the US Constitution?


Because Obama wants us to be more like Europe.
 
2012-04-02 02:41:59 PM  

genner: Cythraul: DavidVincent: This is why I don't trust people who say the US constitution is a "living, breathing document" or it is "out of date".

What does this have to do with the US Constitution?

Because Obama wants us to be more like Europe.


FTFY
 
2012-04-02 02:45:30 PM  

Santa's Knee: genner: Cythraul: DavidVincent: This is why I don't trust people who say the US constitution is a "living, breathing document" or it is "out of date".

What does this have to do with the US Constitution?

Because Obama wants us to be more like Europe.

FTFY


Pointless argument really. All nations, empires, whatever tend towards either anarchy or totalitarianism, eventually reaching on extreme before rapidly falling apart. Neither is better than the other, and one of the two is inevitable. Seems right now most nations are heading for totalitarianism, the US and UK included. Such is life...it won't last that long.
 
2012-04-02 02:46:08 PM  

FormlessOne: hp6sa: I thought they were called "subjects" in the UK, not citizens.

It's cute how we still pretend to have "democracies," even as they slap tighter and tighter fascist elements into place.


In my experience the UK and the US is so damn similar the average working citizen wouldn't be able to tell a difference. Seriously.
 
2012-04-02 02:46:52 PM  
Drool! Britannia!
Britannia ruled the waves.
Britons e-e-e-e-ever
Will be slaves.
 
2012-04-02 02:47:32 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: FormlessOne: hp6sa: I thought they were called "subjects" in the UK, not citizens.

It's cute how we still pretend to have "democracies," even as they slap tighter and tighter fascist elements into place.

In my experience the UK and the US is so damn similar the average working citizen wouldn't be able to tell a difference. Seriously.


Considering the history between us, I wouldn't expect the US and the UK to be that different.
 
2012-04-02 02:47:36 PM  

Cythraul: DavidVincent: This is why I don't trust people who say the US constitution is a "living, breathing document" or it is "out of date".

What does this have to do with the US Constitution?


The US constitution is all that protects our rights. Governments find it easier to function if they don't have to worry about the rights of citizens. Don't trust them.
 
2012-04-02 02:47:40 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: FormlessOne: hp6sa: I thought they were called "subjects" in the UK, not citizens.

It's cute how we still pretend to have "democracies," even as they slap tighter and tighter fascist elements into place.

In my experience the UK and the US is so damn similar the average working citizen wouldn't be able to tell a difference. Seriously.


You've clearly never paid UK tax rates.
 
2012-04-02 02:47:49 PM  
Overwhelm them with false positives (new window)

/yes, I understand this is about the UK and not the US
 
2012-04-02 02:48:28 PM  

FormlessOne: hp6sa: I thought they were called "subjects" in the UK, not citizens.

It's cute how we still pretend to have "democracies," even as they slap tighter and tighter fascist elements into place.


The UK is not a Democracy. It is a Constitutional Monarchy.
 
2012-04-02 02:48:37 PM  
Well; we gave it a good run chaps. I guess the man won this one. Before too long; 1984 will be real. I totally call being Emanual Goldstein. If he's taken; I want to be Wilson Smith.


Shut her down boys; last one out get the lights.

/ it has been my honor and privilege to know you Magnificent Bastards
 
2012-04-02 02:48:50 PM  
Nanny State.
 
2012-04-02 02:48:55 PM  
Sir Harry Pearce, KBE, approves.
 
2012-04-02 02:48:58 PM  

gaslight: Some observations:

1) The UK is so broke they're slashing services left and right.
2) This will cost a lot of money.
3) Someone will have to pay for it.
4) It may be illegal.


I could be wrong, but from what I can tell, the cost is to be borne by the ISPs (ie their customers). A previous plan that included a national database failed, but this one appears to require that ISPs and telecoms record everything and only turn it over to law enforcement on request rather than the government storing the data.
 
2012-04-02 02:49:42 PM  
i486.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-02 02:51:41 PM  
And in a another piece of proposed legislation, a statue of King John will be commissioned and placed outside of Parliament to remind citizens the government has ultimate power and authority over everyone.
 
2012-04-02 02:52:02 PM  

DavidVincent: The UK is 5 years ahead of the US.


No, they're just more open about it. NSA has most of the world's supercomputers. They aren't playing Doom on those bad boys.
 
2012-04-02 02:52:48 PM  
I'm behind nine proxies so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2012-04-02 02:55:00 PM  

Nightsweat: DavidVincent: The UK is 5 years ahead of the US.

No, they're just more open about it. NSA has most of the world's supercomputers. They aren't playing Doom on those bad boys.


Of course not. They are playing World of Warcraft and the latest Star Wars online game.
 
2012-04-02 02:55:33 PM  
Dont like it?

There's always Somalia.

www.worldsupertravel.info

/do not leave valuables in car...
 
2012-04-02 02:56:09 PM  

DavidVincent: We Americans shouldn't laugh at the UK. We have "homeland security"


[karendecoster.com image 615x960]


And when was the last time someone in America was arrested for offending someone by singing Kung Fu Fighting in a karaoke bar?
 
2012-04-02 02:58:00 PM  

Mock26: Nightsweat: DavidVincent: The UK is 5 years ahead of the US.

No, they're just more open about it. NSA has most of the world's supercomputers. They aren't playing Doom on those bad boys.

Of course not. They are playing World of Warcraft and the latest Star Wars online game.


No there still playing Ultima Online, which is the only reason that game still exists
.
 
2012-04-02 02:58:42 PM  
friek

Overwhelm them with false positives (new
window)
/yes, I understand this is about the UK and not
the US
`
Too little, too late to matter.
 
2012-04-02 02:59:17 PM  
That didn't take long, did it? Coming soon to a spinoff nation near you. Paging Mr. Rothschild. Oh, wait... that's conspiracy business plan talk.
 
2012-04-02 02:59:34 PM  

TomD9938: Dont like it?

There's always Somalia.

[www.worldsupertravel.info image 460x419]

/do not leave valuables in car...


That's gorgeous. I can see why the pirates based themselves there.
 
2012-04-02 03:00:16 PM  

Nightsweat: DavidVincent: The UK is 5 years ahead of the US.

No, they're just more open about it. NSA has most of the world's supercomputers. They aren't playing Doom on those bad boys.


BF3

/it seriously takes that much horsepower
//shiatty game
 
2012-04-02 03:01:19 PM  

Wellon Dowd: TomD9938: Dont like it?

There's always Somalia.

[www.worldsupertravel.info image 460x419]

/do not leave valuables in car...

That's gorgeous. I can see why the pirates based themselves there.


Get enough Free Americans™ and we, too, can carve out a niche there.
 
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