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(MTV)   Child killings, incestuous colonies and poor casting decisions all make for a controversial start to the new season of "Game of Thrones"   (mtv.com) divider line 15
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2012-04-02 06:29:29 PM
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fozziewazzi: HBO can't work as a business if they allow people to buy individual epsidoes to their latest hot shows, not unless those prices are exhorbitant. Subcriptions subsidizes future projects.


If I subscribe to HBO, I pay $15/month, of which they get $7.50 (50%). If they charge $3 per episode on Amazon, I pay $12/month, of which they get about $7.20 (60%). If I buy more than one show, or they charge a little more, then they start to come out well ahead. It's still a very good deal for me, because I don't have to pay $80/month for basic cable.
2012-04-02 06:27:16 PM
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kab: Thought it was a good start. The baby killing didn't bother me really, though they certainly could have gone into a bit more detail as to exactly they surmised how many bastards were running around.

Having not read the books (well, I did read the first many many years ago), I was a bit 'WTF am I watching' when Stannis and crew are introduced.

/still betting on this show never making it past season 3. This is HBO we're talking about, after all.


Well, HBO is saving a lot of money by not having to pay for that Dustin Hoffman series anymore.
I'd bet that Boardwalk gets the boot first.
2012-04-02 04:57:52 PM
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stoli n coke: Phil Moskowitz: biatch biatch biatch biatch biatch biatch biatch...

Trying to generate clicks by being a disingenuous prude is unbecoming.

Pretty much. Plus, the whole child-killing thing at the end was lifted from the Bible.


Much of the book is lifted -- its based off the War of the Roses.

GRRM is the author you get if you combined Tolkien and Cormac McCarthy. And I love it.
2012-04-02 04:52:55 PM
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Phil Moskowitz: biatch biatch biatch biatch biatch biatch biatch...

Trying to generate clicks by being a disingenuous prude is unbecoming.


Pretty much. Plus, the whole child-killing thing at the end was lifted from the Bible.
2012-04-02 04:40:38 PM
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Nothing about this should be shocking, including the incest and baby killing. There were times in our real history ...and not fantasy, where families killed without a second thought and did anything to stay in power and little girls were married off at 12 or 13 to make alliances or join houses. Many civilizations did what we would condider deplorable, horriffic things... Ancient Rome anyone?
2012-04-02 04:28:08 PM
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FTA: When he dies and Melisandre towers over his corpse giving him the evil-witch stink eye, you, A) Don't feel all that bad for Cressen because he's an entirely undeveloped character (unlike his novel's counterpart), and B) You suddenly view Stannis and Melisandre almost as supervillains - which is the wrong first impression to give for them, in my humble opinion. Small gripes in the long scheme of things, but gripes all the same.

There is nothing wrong with this. In fact, Stannis & Melisandre = leader and his evil, magical right-hand is exactly how I pictured them for about three books. Introducing them as a fantasy stereotype at first and then breaking the viewer's expectations later is what this whole series is about. Plus, if this author doesn't like how they're viewed as super-villains for killing Cressen... I'll just leave it at that.

Plus, critiquing Stephen Dillane's performance after literally 10 minutes off the first episode? Seriously?

Confabulat: Cymbal: You have to have some serious gay if you don't make nailing Natalie Dormer your first priority:

I am really hoping for a lot of naked Margaery Tyrell this year. We could skip a lot of subplots in favor of that.


Several of the trailers have already shown Natalie Dormer stripping. I think we will be pleased.
2012-04-02 03:57:58 PM
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Jake Havechek: Say what you will about Tolkein, he does not employ MacGuffins. Everything germane to the story is in that story.


So what is the One Ring, then?
2012-04-02 03:38:03 PM
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MugzyBrown: I wish in a thread about a specific episode people could refrain from throwing in spoilers from the book mid-sentence


I wish people who gave a crap about having their viewing experience of a show unsoiled by prior knowledge of its content would stay out of threads about that topic, especially when the show is based on a series of books that have been out for years.
2012-04-02 03:17:20 PM
1 votes:
Meh, I gave up getting into the HBO series when Dany was raped on her wedding night. That was a stupid plot twist they made with no reason to it. She was never raped in the book.
2012-04-02 02:46:10 PM
1 votes:

jackiepaper: I too thought Craster was far to clean-cut. Stannis not stern enough. and Melisandre's accent just seems off.

That kid playing Joffrey, however, is phenomenal at being hateable.

Still pissed there isn't going to be any Meera or Jojen Reed


No Meera or Jojen? Maybe theyre saving it for season 3.
2012-04-02 02:45:08 PM
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Confabulat: I Love Rooster: Isn't Rob and Jon suppose to be about 15-16 and Daenerys if I remember correctly (it being forever since I read the first books of the series) is suppose to be 14?

They upped everyone's ages for a lot of very obvious reasons. Plus, in a universe where winter lasts untold years, how do you know what "15-16" is supposed to be anyway?


That.

I thought the show did an excellent job of Stannis' character, and Cersei's lack of control over King's Landing. I also appreciate that they took the time to show the bastard killing as I seem to remember it was only alluding to in the book. Then again, with POV chapters, it would be hard to describe that in horrific detail without adding a new POV character.

Even without her inner dialogue, Catelyn annoying the farking shiat out of me.
2012-04-02 02:38:44 PM
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parazen: You know, I think Craster was miscast, but now I'm second guessing myself. That's because when I read Craster, I fill in an American-style backwoods weirdo. Like something out of Deliverance.


That's how I read it too.

I think I'm in a minority here because I never notice stuff like "poor casting choices" until others bring it up. Even then it doesn't really bother me.
2012-04-02 02:31:58 PM
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parazen: You know, I think Craster was miscast, but now I'm second guessing myself. That's because when I read Craster, I fill in an American-style backwoods weirdo. Like something out of Deliverance.


He just seemed entirely too well-groomed and refined. Bad casting.
2012-04-02 02:16:41 PM
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You know, I think Craster was miscast, but now I'm second guessing myself. That's because when I read Craster, I fill in an American-style backwoods weirdo. Like something out of Deliverance.

But maybe that's not how British backwoods weirdos are. Maybe they just look and talk like normal British people, and you can only tell that they're off because they've married all their "daughtehs"
2012-04-02 02:15:21 PM
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Confabulat: Oh and is child-killing going to be an issue? Because I've not read all the books, but um.


Well, there's a scene where Bran is forced to smother Rickon to death before pedophile Clegane bannermen can steal him away.
 
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