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(Huffington Post)   Donald Trump and Clay Aiken don't understand Penn Jillette. And Penn is okay with that. Vissa d'arte   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 65
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2012-04-02 12:30:31 PM  
TFA:

"Your story becomes tiresome."

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-04-02 01:13:16 PM  

Mugato: TFA:

"Your story becomes tiresome."

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x165]


Yeah, I kind of skipped the entire middle and then just skimmed the final two paragraphs. This article needed an editor.
 
2012-04-02 01:17:08 PM  
I liked it.

/Big fan of Penn & Teller.
 
2012-04-02 01:17:22 PM  
I liked the story and like how Teller defines art:

"I use Teller's broad definition of art -- "Whatever we do after the chores are done." There's one show business and Bach, Dylan, Ron Jeremy, and the guy at the mall in the Santa suit are all in it.

Met Penn and Teller in person once a long time ago and they are both really genuine people and were very nice. Clay and Trump are d-bags so really don't care what they think.
 
2012-04-02 01:19:57 PM  

tzzhc4: Met Penn and Teller in person once a long time ago and they are both really genuine people and were very nice. Clay and Trump are d-bags so really don't care what they think.


This. It's very seldom that I give into the whole "public personae" thing but after watching Penn in his interviews and TV appearances I feel like he'd really be both a fun/warm and fascinating person to hang out with.

/Listen to his episode on the Nerdist podcast if you haven't yet
 
2012-04-02 01:20:55 PM  
I googled the video. The balloon bursting was not as awsome as the article describes but seeing Clay lose his shiat over it was delightful.
 
2012-04-02 01:22:17 PM  
We all knew Clay Aiken was a sniveling little twerp, he was on american idol, what does he know about art?
 
2012-04-02 01:22:44 PM  

KatjaMouse: tzzhc4: Met Penn and Teller in person once a long time ago and they are both really genuine people and were very nice. Clay and Trump are d-bags so really don't care what they think.

This. It's very seldom that I give into the whole "public personae" thing but after watching Penn in his interviews and TV appearances I feel like he'd really be both a fun/warm and fascinating person to hang out with.

/Listen to his episode on the Nerdist podcast if you haven't yet


Jimmy Carter Says "Yes"
 
2012-04-02 01:24:26 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This article needed an editor.


Definitely. But it did tell a fun story.

By the way, I had an opportunity to catch the Penn & Teller show a few weeks ago at the Rio in Las Vegas. I've seen them four or five times over a decade before, when they'd take their stuff on tour, but this was the first time I saw them in Vegas. I thought maybe the act would have gotten stale over the years, but I thought it had actually improved. HOLY SHIAT, was that ever an entertaining show. I know how all their illusions work, and I still came away amazed. It's too late for all the Vegas-partying Farkers, but if you ever find yourself there, be sure to see it. After the show P&T hang around, sign autographs (I got another 3-of-clubs signed), and are happy to chat.
 
2012-04-02 01:29:27 PM  
Penn Jillette is a giant d-bag; it's who and what he is, to his core. That said, sometimes he manages to be something else--something better--this is one of those times.
 
2012-04-02 01:30:30 PM  
Vissi d'arte.
Bonus: The only worthwhile and interesting discussion in I've ever seen on a youtube video comments section.
 
2012-04-02 01:38:33 PM  
I have seen Penn driving around town in his pink Mini Cooper quite a few times. I also got a chance to say hi to him when I went to his show. He seems like a nice guy, and I am glad he is a local.
 
2012-04-02 01:39:42 PM  
I watched the episode. It really wasn't that big of a deal, but that may have been due to the way it was edited.

Still, it's nice to see another side of a story.

Also, this is at the bottom of TFA. VHS?
 
2012-04-02 01:43:32 PM  
Ran into Penn one afternoon about 5 years ago in an East Village bar. Absolutely one of the nicest guys Ive ever met. Kept the few of us there entertained with some amazing bar tricks and funny stories.
 
2012-04-02 01:47:31 PM  
The Rio, though... It's so out of the way.
 
2012-04-02 01:47:56 PM  

BadReligion: I have seen Penn driving around town in his pink Mini Cooper quite a few times.


He fits in one of those? I got their autographs after a show years ago, and they both seemed like really nice, down-to-earth people, as others have said. Plus, Penn is a mountain of a man, so it's fun just to stand next to him and feel all dainty and petite.
 
2012-04-02 01:48:20 PM  

RKTeuthis: Penn Jillette is a giant d-bag; it's who and what he is, to his core. That said, sometimes he manages to be something else--something better--this is one of those times.


I think he just doesn't agree with you. I've never heard of anyone saying he was anything but polite and respectful, if gregarious.
 
2012-04-02 01:50:38 PM  
WTF is The Celebrity Apprentice?
 
2012-04-02 01:57:26 PM  

RKTeuthis: Penn Jillette is a giant d-bag; it's who and what he is, to his core. That said, sometimes he manages to be something else--something better--this is one of those times.


Is that you, Chris angel?
 
2012-04-02 01:58:21 PM  
He should have given Trump some Invisible Thread to tie back his weave.

Have not seen this ep yet, but I assume Penn got fired for this?
 
2012-04-02 01:58:27 PM  
Clay takes The Celebrity Apprentice very seriously and plays the game for all it's worth.

Lol, of course he does.

Penn's a bit of a douche - What the fark is he even doing on this show in the first place - but this was a very effective means of exposing the core of a show like this. It doesn't say, but I assume they voted Penn off and cut it to make it look like he caused some kind of mob scene, laughing maniacally in the background while poor Clay had to endure the touch of common folk?
 
2012-04-02 01:58:52 PM  
As many have stated above, Penn is a terrific fellow. He may be opinionated, he may enjoy a raucous debate, but he's not going to protest a funeral with a sign reading "The Bible is a LIE".

/Monkey Tuesday!
 
2012-04-02 02:06:05 PM  
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2012-04-02 02:06:50 PM  
Love P&T. I don't agree with everything Penn says, but I do respect him a lot. He's clearly intelligent, entertaining and sticks to his guns. I got a picture/autograph with Teller after a Vegas show, very cool of him to make time with everyone who wanted to meet him. I know the Apprentice is a joke but Clay Aiken and Incredible Hulk couldn't come off as whinier biatches about Penn.
 
2012-04-02 02:13:39 PM  
I used to love The Apprentice until it became Celebrity Apprentice. It was way more fun watching business people scramble to come up with money than it is watching some washed up E list "celebrity" (Arsenio?!) call their Hollywood friends for some donations. I do still watch it and I couldn't believe that Penn was doing this show the guy still has a career and is incredibly successful so I figured it most have just been for the lulz and it looks like I was right.
 
2012-04-02 02:22:18 PM  

oilyfishhead: WTF is The Celebrity Apprentice?


I know, right?
 
2012-04-02 02:28:53 PM  
FTFA:
Trying to explain to Donald Trump that beauty and art can be more important than money is like trying to explain to Donald Trump that beauty and art can be more important than money.

I lol'ed. Nicely said.
 
2012-04-02 02:31:37 PM  

KatjaMouse: This. It's very seldom that I give into the whole "public personae" thing but after watching Penn in his interviews and TV appearances I feel like he'd really be both a fun/warm and fascinating person to hang out with.

/Listen to his episode on the Nerdist podcast if you haven't yet


He comes off that way on his own podcast, too.

/the episode with Arsenio Hall and Adam Carolla is pretty good
 
2012-04-02 02:35:42 PM  

Current Resident: I watched the episode. It really wasn't that big of a deal, but that may have been due to the way it was edited.

Still, it's nice to see another side of a story.

Also, this is at the bottom of TFA. VHS?


Holy crap. I can't believe it has been more than twenty years since they did that video.
 
2012-04-02 02:36:22 PM  
Penn the stage character IS a douche - he's a big loud guy to offset Teller's muted persona. That's what makes the duo so entertaining.

Penn the human being is awesome to his fans, showing little pretense and a genuine interest in humanity. When you get to see him out of character, he's a lot like Stephen Colbert when he's out of character - warm, kind, and sincere.

I found the article tedious (Penn's a much performer than a writer), but I appreciated what he was trying to say - that he was more concerned with creating a big moment than in winning a silly reality TV show. It's definitely hard for people like Donald Trump and Clay Aiken to understand that, because they're still trying to win the game of life. Penn won that a long time ago, and he's built a great platform with which to share what he's learned.
 
2012-04-02 02:36:28 PM  

RTOGUY: I used to love The Apprentice until it became Celebrity Apprentice. It was way more fun watching business people scramble to come up with money than it is watching some washed up E list "celebrity" (Arsenio?!) call their Hollywood friends for some donations. I do still watch it and I couldn't believe that Penn was doing this show the guy still has a career and is incredibly successful so I figured it most have just been for the lulz and it looks like I was right.


Or the 6 million people who watch it. I dunno.
 
2012-04-02 02:44:46 PM  
I love P&T's Bullshiat show, though I don't always agree with it.
 
2012-04-02 03:14:07 PM  

Hydra: Or the 6 million people who watch it. I dunno.


The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell-

/By this metric, McDonalds must obviously make the world's best hamburgers
 
2012-04-02 03:22:26 PM  
Always been a big fan of his and was dissappointed that he was even on this stupid farkin' show to begin with. This brings him back up on my esteem-o-meter.
 
2012-04-02 03:30:53 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I know how all their illusions work


How ya doing boss? Care to explain the bullet catch? I was in the second row when I saw them peform and I don't get it. The yellow line on the floor seemed important, but it could all be misdirection.


jayhawk88: It doesn't say, but I assume they voted Penn off and cut it to make it look like he caused some kind of mob scene,


No they actually won that challenge. Dee Snider was voted off later.
 
2012-04-02 03:32:22 PM  
This made me like him again. He's not qualified to "debunk" stuff but I will listen to his high-school educated opinions and consider them because he's smarter than YOU at least
 
2012-04-02 03:34:22 PM  

Nrokreffefp: I think he just doesn't agree with you. I've never heard of anyone saying he was anything but polite and respectful, if gregarious.


Most of the time he comes off as a really fun loving person but when he talks politics he seems to focus more on demeaning those who hold the opinions he doesn't approve of than focusing on the opinions themselves. I've been a big fan of P&T since the 80s but really can't stand to listen to Penn on political issues. And I actually agree with quite a bit of his views but have a hard time accepting the tone with which he delivers them. "Seriously dude, you're not helping" runs through my head quite often when he rants on someone. Other than discussing politics though, yeah, he seems like a cool dude.
 
2012-04-02 03:37:46 PM  
I Adore Penn & Teller! And, like several posters...met them after one of their Vegas shows. They definitely appreciate their audience, and seem to be very nice, down-to-earth people. And Bullshiat! is one of the greatest shows in the history of ever!

I can kinda see why Clay would be losing his shiat over the money thing: If I lost the money challenge to Aubrey because of the weird money thing...I'd totally have my shorts in a wad as well. (And, I'm sure there could have been some potential liability for that to come back on them if someone got hurt grabbing at 20's.)

I'd love for Penn to win it, but I can't see him kissing DT's ass long or hard enough...or at all, to be in the serious running.
 
2012-04-02 03:49:53 PM  
I read every word and I'm glad I did.
 
2012-04-02 04:05:42 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Rapmaster2000: This article needed an editor.

Definitely. But it did tell a fun story.

By the way, I had an opportunity to catch the Penn & Teller show a few weeks ago at the Rio in Las Vegas. I've seen them four or five times over a decade before, when they'd take their stuff on tour, but this was the first time I saw them in Vegas. I thought maybe the act would have gotten stale over the years, but I thought it had actually improved. HOLY SHIAT, was that ever an entertaining show. I know how all their illusions work, and I still came away amazed. It's too late for all the Vegas-partying Farkers, but if you ever find yourself there, be sure to see it. After the show P&T hang around, sign autographs (I got another 3-of-clubs signed), and are happy to chat.




I got invited on stage the final act (bullet trick), for my birthday. Got pics of both of them, and they let me keep the bullet.

/CSB

no, C'est SB.

I giggled like a girl the whole damn time. I didn't care. It was awesome.
 
2012-04-02 04:08:24 PM  

Kali-Yuga: The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell-

/By this metric, McDonalds must obviously make the world's best hamburgers


You missed the point - you asked why someone like Penn would do Celebrity Apprentice. Aside from the charity thing, it's because of the 6 million people watching the show so he could get more famous - he admitted as much on his podcast.
 
2012-04-02 04:09:05 PM  

Vash The Stampede: Prank Call of Cthulhu: I know how all their illusions work

How ya doing boss? Care to explain the bullet catch? I was in the second row when I saw them peform and I don't get it. The yellow line on the floor seemed important, but it could all be misdirection.

.


I loaded Teller's cartridge myself, and I own a .357 python, with a six inch barrel. I have no freaking idea how they did it. And there is no way they planted the bullets. I drew an octopus on mine, and loaded, and checked it when I loaded it.

I think I kinda annoyed him a bit because while checking the gun I pointed it completely away from the audience, towards backstage, and inadvertently blocked the audience view of my validation.
 
2012-04-02 04:13:04 PM  
Just saw them on Saturday night. Good show. The bullet trick still utterly confounds me. I'm sure it's something incredibly simple but I have absolutely no idea what it could be.
 
2012-04-02 04:33:20 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Mugato: TFA:

"Your story becomes tiresome."

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x165]

Yeah, I kind of skipped the entire middle and then just skimmed the final two paragraphs. This article needed an editor.


Penn loves the sound of his own voice, even in print.
 
2012-04-02 04:43:32 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The Rio, though... It's so out of the way.


What are you talking about? It's right there -- we could walk there, no problem.

/problem
 
2012-04-02 05:06:57 PM  
I would watch that episode if they showed Clay Aiken crying in anger. That would be awesome. I'm willing to get money they did not. It's good that Penn "gets" it.
 
2012-04-02 05:12:21 PM  
I read it all, his view of art is interesting, and I'm not one that is routinely interested in peoples "views of art"-- pretentious nonsense 99.99% of the time. They've put out enough good media that Penn has proven himself someone worth listening to.
 
2012-04-02 05:23:27 PM  

Hydra: Kali-Yuga: The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell-

/By this metric, McDonalds must obviously make the world's best hamburgers

You missed the point - you asked why someone like Penn would do Celebrity Apprentice. Aside from the charity thing, it's because of the 6 million people watching the show so he could get more famous - he admitted as much on his podcast.


Actually it's more in line to direct people to come see his Vegas show. The best way to direct people to come see the Penn and Teller show is by seeing Penn on a show and you thinking about him later. Also they are making money per episode so I'm sure it helps pay the bills. Penn has stated that these tv shows he does (Fear Factor, Dancing with the Stars etc) are more promotional gigs then anything. Not an ego boost at all I'm sure especially since he says he doesn't watch them.
 
2012-04-02 05:27:54 PM  

Vash The Stampede: Care to explain the bullet catch?


I saw this one over a decade ago when they took their show on tour. On a small stage, with the curtains drawn, it was easy to deduce that the bullets were palmed just before they donned their vests, and then presumably stage hands swapped them across the yellow line, behind the scenes.

The version they did at the Rio is much improved, with the curtains drawn all the way back and different staging for the vests and gun rests. It's a lot harder to figure out where the switch was made, making the illusion much more spectacular. Still, if you keep your eye on the guns and note the brief amount of time you can't see them, and then ask yourself what gets touched by P&T afterward, you can probably figure it out. The same principles are used in the "Lighting a Cigarette?" trick and the appearance of Teller in the box that opens the show.
 
2012-04-02 05:51:22 PM  

98K514: AverageAmericanGuy: The Rio, though... It's so out of the way.

What are you talking about? It's right there -- we could walk there, no problem.

/problem


So much this. My buddy and I, after many drinks, decided we would walk to Rio from Caesar's ("It's so close!"). On a toasty August afternoon. Across the I-15 canyon of death.

/bad idea
//got a cab from Rio - to In N Out and then downtown
 
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