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(Orlando Sentinel)   "You can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," say 2 forensic voice experts about who's calling for help in the 911 tape   (articles.orlandosentinel.com) divider line 1110
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2012-04-01 03:18:19 AM  
Revmachine21,
Glad you are okay. Question for you, out of curiosity and in no way trying to point fingers in your direction, what did you do after shooting? You can see my above post, I am of the opinion that if you have just shot somebody you call (crying out to the neighbors or calling 911) for medical help for the person just shot. Meanwhile, keeping the weapon trained on him in case he's not so dead after all.
I heard the tapes, and heard how they went silent after the shot. It really leads me to believe that either Trayvon was the one calling for help, or that Zimmerman was only thinking of himself and was more interested in wasting a bad guy and not so interested in Martin living.


If you are asking about personal bias, after chasing someone down in a hoodie that somewhat matched the description of a local breaking and entering suspect only matching generic clothing and skin color, Zimmerman was at least escalating the incident. As to the question of if Treyvon escalated by going physical, I don't know.

I know he was doing his thing as neighborhood watch whatever, in my opinion took it one step to far.

Zimmerman could be anything from a cold blooded killer to an emotionally misplaced, possible racist.

The cops are the ones who farked this one up by not doing a full forensics after someone was shot.

Extensively arguing and arguing about the last two minutes it post by post without being there is farking pointless.
 
2012-04-01 03:18:39 AM  

BSABSVR: 9beers: You do realize that there are all kinds of ways to treat wounds other than bandages, right?

And apparently the Sanford police have futuristic hunger games shiat that turns road rash into nothing in a matter of hours 30 minutes.


FTFY
 
2012-04-01 03:19:21 AM  

CliChe Guevara: Mock26: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tragic death.

How many other tragic deaths occurred that day? How many have occurred since then? I feel sorry for this kid's family and wish that he had never been shot. But I think that all of the media attention is way overblown.

This one is unique in that the power structure designed to ensure justice actively conspired to protect the murderer and even to blame the victim. also, a very destructive partisan political machine has further taken it up as a pet project to blame the rest of society as a whole for not actually hailing the murderer as a hero, and twist it furthermore to perversely portray him as sort of victim himself.

in other words, it ain't about the kid himself. there are lots of dead ones of those.

whats actually news is the racist and increasingly tribalized/balkanized society, the horribly broken legal system, the corrupt political maneuvers, and the morally bankrupt culture warriors looking to exploit it.
in short, it exposes the whole train wreck that is our disintegrating society as a whole.


Nothing new there, either.
 
2012-04-01 03:20:31 AM  

mc6809e: LewDux:

Usually people talk and scream with same apparatus.

And people write and blow their noses with the same apparatus. I guess a sample of handwriting is all one needs to identify or rule out a particular nose blower.


You write with your nose? That seems inefficient.
 
2012-04-01 03:21:37 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

laxbuzz.files.wordpress.com

www.pbs.org

The more this changes, the more this is the same thing.
 
2012-04-01 03:21:59 AM  

bhcompy: mc6809e: LordJiro:

It isn't science just because someone says it's science.

[www.bc.edu image 421x464]

Owen, a court-qualified expert witness...

Rule 702. Testimony by Expert Witnesses
A witness who is qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education may testify in the form of an opinion or otherwise if:
(a) the expert's scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will help the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue;
(b) the testimony is based on sufficient facts or data;
(c) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods; and
(d) the expert has reliably applied the principles and methods to the facts of the case.

It's science because it's science.


That dude has been blowing smoke up people's asses for 35 years, and getting away with it! Bunch of jibber-jabber claiming to be "science." Can you believe it?


SevenizGud: BronyMedic: Clearly, the solution is to shoot any teenagers. Expecially the darkies. They're the most dangerous of them all.

Any of them that suckerpunch me in the face and break my nose, and bash my head into the sidewalk repeatedly, and then try to take my firearm away from me to kill me with it....yeah. Just like with the palefaces that do the same.

But lemme guess, you'd have just laid there and let Trayvon take your gun and shoot you with it, out of respect for race relations, amirite?


Lookslikewegotabadass.jpg
 
2012-04-01 03:22:24 AM  

eraser8: TheBigJerk: Do you believe his story when he claims self defense? Do you believe that the Jewish soccer player (who was bigger) forced the black guy to defend himself with lethal force?

I don't, and I'm prejudiced against jocks and soccer.

Just think about it.

Expecting empathy out of people?

Can't tell if optimistic or just naive.


Eh, I just remembered that speech from the end of A Time to Kill, (only part I've seen of that movie actually) and felt like playing on it. I mean, this is an internet argument with internet people, it is by definition a waste of time. And in the wide range of lurkers and posters that come here the marginal possibility remains that one, just one person, might stop and think, if only for a moment, about their position.

Besides, I don't see how what I wrote could make it any worse.
 
2012-04-01 03:23:48 AM  

SevenizGud: BronyMedic: Clearly, the solution is to shoot any teenagers. Expecially the darkies. They're the most dangerous of them all.

Any of them that suckerpunch me in the face and break my nose, and bash my head into the sidewalk repeatedly, and then try to take my firearm away from me to kill me with it....yeah. Just like with the palefaces that do the same.

But lemme guess, you'd have just laid there and let Trayvon take your gun and shoot you with it, out of respect for race relations, amirite?


Yeah, Zimmerman sure LOOKED beaten up in that video shortly after the incident.

Oh wait, he looked fine, and despite what you saw in 'Meet the Medic', medical personnel don't own laser guns that heal all wounds instantly without leaving a trace.
 
2012-04-01 03:26:03 AM  

bhcompy: mc6809e: LordJiro:

It isn't science just because someone says it's science.

[www.bc.edu image 421x464]

Owen, a court-qualified expert witness...

Rule 702. Testimony by Expert Witnesses
A witness who is qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education may testify in the form of an opinion or otherwise if:
(a) the expert's scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will help the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue;
(b) the testimony is based on sufficient facts or data;
(c) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods; and
(d) the expert has reliably applied the principles and methods to the facts of the case.

It's science because it's science.


What you gave isn't science. It's just a list of rules concerning the admissibility of the testimony of certain witnesses. Hell, an expert witness doesn't even have to be a scientist given the rules. He can simply have technical knowledge. And being once court-qualified doesn't mean he'll be considered court-qualified later. A notorious bite-mark "expert" was shown to be a fraud and is no longer qualified to testify.

Besides, Owen didn't author the software he used to rule out a match. Is he an expert in software correctness? His credentials don't mention anything about software engineering or an understanding of algorithms used for voice identification.
 
2012-04-01 03:26:30 AM  

SevenizGud: BronyMedic: Clearly, the solution is to shoot any teenagers. Expecially the darkies. They're the most dangerous of them all.

Any of them that suckerpunch me in the face and break my nose, and bash my head into the sidewalk repeatedly, and then try to take my firearm away from me to kill me with it....yeah.


that would presuppose you chased them down with the firearm in the first place. but thats ok, right? what if a darkie with a gun chased you? you would shoot them then, too. so situations being reversed doesn't change anything, only skin color does, right? (as in white makes...)

/i would guess your answer to all questions is just to shoot the darkies regardless.
 
2012-04-01 03:27:36 AM  
the voice in that tape was screaming fro their life, like they knew they were about to die. I think it would be unusual for that to be the guy about to do the shooting.
/pointed that out on day one.
 
2012-04-01 03:27:43 AM  

SevenizGud: [img29.imageshack.us image 501x432]

"Lol so daisha think she a boss caus she walked in class late 2day...I do dat everyday"
"I'll beat the pussy up"
"2 glock 40's.... biatch u got 80 problems"
"U WANNA SEE SUM CASH? WELL LEMME SEE SUM ASS"

~Trayvon "Hollister" Martin


When I was 17 I drove around listening to NWA and Public Enemy and Ministry. I had hair down to the middle of my back, chain smoked, served several in-school suspensions for truancy and fighting and occasionally I sold a dime bag or two of crappy weed.

Now I own my own business, make 6 figures, donate to charity, volunteer when possible and generally live a nice, quiet suburban life.

But yeah, every teenage male who acts out will never amount to anything and probably deserves to die.
 
2012-04-01 03:29:37 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

There are some amazing similarities here. Like Jim Bakker, George Zimmerman was respected as an upstanding member of the community until scandal regarding lawbreaking destroyed his reputation and put him at risk of going to jail.
 
2012-04-01 03:30:27 AM  

mc6809e: bhcompy: mc6809e: LordJiro:

It isn't science just because someone says it's science.

[www.bc.edu image 421x464]

Owen, a court-qualified expert witness...

Rule 702. Testimony by Expert Witnesses
A witness who is qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education may testify in the form of an opinion or otherwise if:
(a) the expert's scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will help the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue;
(b) the testimony is based on sufficient facts or data;
(c) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods; and
(d) the expert has reliably applied the principles and methods to the facts of the case.

It's science because it's science.

What you gave isn't science. It's just a list of rules concerning the admissibility of the testimony of certain witnesses. Hell, an expert witness doesn't even have to be a scientist given the rules. He can simply have technical knowledge. And being once court-qualified doesn't mean he'll be considered court-qualified later. A notorious bite-mark "expert" was shown to be a fraud and is no longer qualified to testify.

Besides, Owen didn't author the software he used to rule out a match. Is he an expert in software correctness? His credentials don't mention anything about software engineering or an understanding of algorithms used for voice identification.


Those rules form the scientific method. You know, the basis for proving things in modern science. You're free to Google his prior testimony when he was qualified before. I'm sure it has the facts you're looking for. Then again, you're either a troll or a contrarian dickhead, so it doesn't really matter, since you're not going to do it.
 
2012-04-01 03:31:22 AM  

BSABSVR: But yeah, every teenage male who acts out will never amount to anything and probably deserves to die.


no, only the black ones apparently. you were not black, so those were just 'youthful indiscretions'.
 
2012-04-01 03:32:04 AM  

BSABSVR: SevenizGud: [img29.imageshack.us image 501x432]

"Lol so daisha think she a boss caus she walked in class late 2day...I do dat everyday"
"I'll beat the pussy up"
"2 glock 40's.... biatch u got 80 problems"
"U WANNA SEE SUM CASH? WELL LEMME SEE SUM ASS"

~Trayvon "Hollister" Martin

When I was 17 I drove around listening to NWA and Public Enemy and Ministry. I had hair down to the middle of my back, chain smoked, served several in-school suspensions for truancy and fighting and occasionally I sold a dime bag or two of crappy weed.

Now I own my own business, make 6 figures, donate to charity, volunteer when possible and generally live a nice, quiet suburban life.

But yeah, every teenage male who acts out will never amount to anything and probably deserves to die.


I hope you're not paid 6 figures to constantly miss the point.
 
2012-04-01 03:32:11 AM  

bhcompy: Owen, a court-qualified expert witness and former chief engineer for the New York Public Library's Rodgers and Hammerstein Archives of Recorded Sound


So you're saying that sounds, science, and testifying are a few of his favorite things?
 
2012-04-01 03:32:59 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: GAT_00: But it does illustrate the point I'm making that the cops really didn't give a fark.

Actually, the lead investigator had publicly thanked the federal government for opening the grand jury and said that the case would now get justice.

It seems to me that there was something wrong at the political level of this matter, not with the police.


There was something wrong with the police too. Didn't they send a narcotics officer to investigate the incident instead of a homicide officer? Now why would they do that? Black kid wandering around a gated community... I think they were expecting to find drugs on Trayvon and they were hoping it would lead them to a larger bust. That a young man was dead was secondary to them. It's possible that the officers on the ground actually did act in good faith, but there is something seriously wrong with the police here too, at least with the higher ups. Bias at the very least.
 
2012-04-01 03:33:27 AM  

Weaver95: Darth_Lukecash: I think he wanted to be a "hero" so badly, that saw the kid as a dangerous gang banger that needed to be stopped. After the kid started defending himself, Zimmerman pulled the gun to "stop" him and then accidentally shot him in panic..

For what its worth, my gut feeling is that something along these lines is what happened. Zimmerman figured he could play the hero, take down this kid and say he stopped a thug, then go home and masturbate furiously for the rest of the month. But Zimmerman either underestimated the kid OR overestimated his own abilities. things get heated, Zimmerman escalates and BANG! dead kid and Zimmerman has to make up a story fast.

everything we're hearing now about Zimmerman says 'inflated ego' and 'poor impulse control'. add guns and chest thumping bravado to the mix and its a bad deal any way you look at it.


There are so many different ways it could have went down.

Martin could have been beating Zimmerman and his gun fell out, Zimmerman grabbed it, Martin tried to take it from Him and it goes off during the struggle.

Martin could have punched or not punched Zimmerman and he pulls the gun and Martin moves suddenly toward Zimmerman or kicks him so he can try to run away or a an owl hoots or a car backfires or a bolt of lightning cracks and Zimmerman freaks and pulls the trigger.

Everyone can come up with a bullshiat theory, only Zimmerman can tell us what actually happened.

I think Martin was more likely to have poor impulse control, such as beating a bus driver that was commented on his twitter account. 17 year olds act more on impulse than thought process.
 
2012-04-01 03:33:35 AM  

SevenizGud: LordJiro: Oh wait, he looked fine, and despite what you saw in 'Meet the Medic', medical personnel don't own laser guns that heal all wounds instantly without leaving a trace.

His nose was broken, not abraded, tardo. Did you see pictures of the back of his head? No. So STFU.

I had my nose broken playing basketball. It bled for about 10 minutes, but once it stopped, you couldn't have been able to tell from a picture.

In short, fark you and the disingenuineness you rode in on.


i wouldn't say its a given he had injuries. he certainly had no medical treatment. nor would it matter if he did have injuries.

/can anyone explain why him possibly having injuries is at all relevant?
 
2012-04-01 03:37:13 AM  

bhcompy:

It isn't science just because someone says it's science.

[www.bc.edu image 421x464]

Owen, a court-qualified expert witness...

Rule 702. Testimony by Expert Witnesses
A witness who is qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education may testify in the form of an opinion or otherwise if:
(a) the expert's scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will help the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue;
(b) the testimony is based on sufficient facts or data;
(c) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods; and
(d) the expert has reliably applied the principles and methods to the facts of the case.

It's science because it's science.

Those rules form the scientific method. You know, the basis for proving things in modern science.


Wait. You really believe THOSE RULES form the scientific method?

OMG. Our society is worse off than I thought.

The only testimony science accepts is the testimony of experimental results -- not expert witnesses -- not authorities -- not priests -- not a book of fairy tales.

If one of us needs a review of the scientific method it's you.
 
2012-04-01 03:37:20 AM  

BSABSVR: SevenizGud: [img29.imageshack.us image 501x432]

"Lol so daisha think she a boss caus she walked in class late 2day...I do dat everyday"
"I'll beat the pussy up"
"2 glock 40's.... biatch u got 80 problems"
"U WANNA SEE SUM CASH? WELL LEMME SEE SUM ASS"

~Trayvon "Hollister" Martin

When I was 17 I drove around listening to NWA and Public Enemy and Ministry. I had hair down to the middle of my back, chain smoked, served several in-school suspensions for truancy and fighting and occasionally I sold a dime bag or two of crappy weed.

Now I own my own business, make 6 figures, donate to charity, volunteer when possible and generally live a nice, quiet suburban life.

But yeah, every teenage male who acts out will never amount to anything and probably deserves to die.


Are you Ice Cube?
 
2012-04-01 03:37:47 AM  

King Something: Weaver95: Of course, if Zimmerman is charged with murder (or manslaughter or whatever), the defense team can reasonably claim that the prosecutors office is responding to political pressure and that the charges are bogus. which is kinda true - there IS a ton of pressure on them to charge and convict Zimmerman of something.

I don't know that there's an easy way outta this one for the prosecutors. they're boned no matter what they do. And if they charge Zimmerman and lose on a legal technicality....chaos, madness, and the laughter of mad gods as the cosmos burns.

You think that would be bad? Imagine if it does go to trial, the state throws the book at him with charges ranging from first-degree murder and aggravated stalking to double-parking and jaywalking, all charges get "hate crime" tacked on, he gets found guilty on all charges and faces death plus 75 years or some other absurdly huge sentence... and Governor Rick Scott pardons Zimmerman before he even files his first appeal.

The chaos that would ensue would make European soccer riots look like a game of tag.


If by 'riot' you mean complain about it on Facebook, then yes, you are correct.
 
2012-04-01 03:38:18 AM  

ensign_noname: There are so many different ways it could have went down.


but none of them matter. even if at some point zimmerman felt his life WAS actually threatened, he still committed murder - since he instigated the altercation he himself had no right to claim self-defense under any law. in fact, he was excluded under florida law. he went into a situation he caused, while armed.

if it was as defenders of zimmerman presuppose, and martin was trying to take the gun away from zimmerman, that WAS justifiably self-defense - FOR MARTIN.
 
2012-04-01 03:38:19 AM  
SevenizGud: CliChe Guevara: SevenizGud: BronyMedic: Clearly, the solution is to shoot any teenagers. Expecially the darkies. They're the most dangerous of them all.

Any of them that suckerpunch me in the face and break my nose, and bash my head into the sidewalk repeatedly, and then try to take my firearm away from me to kill me with it....yeah.

that would presuppose you chased them down with the firearm in the first place. but thats ok, right? what if a darkie with a gun chased you? you would shoot them then, too. so situations being reversed doesn't change anything, only skin color does, right? (as in white makes...)

/i would guess your answer to all questions is just to shoot the darkies regardless.

And that would be a poor guess, particularly in light of the fact that I stated and you even quoted me saying that it would apply to:

"Any of them that suckerpunch me in the face and break my nose, and bash my head into the sidewalk repeatedly, and then try to take my firearm away from me to kill me with it....yeah."

/I would guess your answer to all questions is to just completely fabricate what another person might do, in spite of even quoting them saying how it would apply, and then go on molesting goats and being a pedophile. Please stop being a pedophile, asswipe.


Good thing none of these posters had a bag of skittles when they replied to you.
 
2012-04-01 03:38:41 AM  

mc6809e: BSABSVR: SevenizGud: [img29.imageshack.us image 501x432]

"Lol so daisha think she a boss caus she walked in class late 2day...I do dat everyday"
"I'll beat the pussy up"
"2 glock 40's.... biatch u got 80 problems"
"U WANNA SEE SUM CASH? WELL LEMME SEE SUM ASS"

~Trayvon "Hollister" Martin

When I was 17 I drove around listening to NWA and Public Enemy and Ministry. I had hair down to the middle of my back, chain smoked, served several in-school suspensions for truancy and fighting and occasionally I sold a dime bag or two of crappy weed.

Now I own my own business, make 6 figures, donate to charity, volunteer when possible and generally live a nice, quiet suburban life.

But yeah, every teenage male who acts out will never amount to anything and probably deserves to die.

I hope you're not paid 6 figures to constantly miss the point.


Your point seems to be that a kid who tweets Lil Wayne lyrics or has a baggie with some shake in it is a bad person who would never have amounted to anything. And that's honestly me being gracious as to your "point".
 
2012-04-01 03:39:29 AM  

gameshowhost: Frightening images of the terrifying young negro, just days before he tried to kill George Zimmerman.


My 18 y/o son in law takes similar images, I've also seen him beat the shiat out of his brother in law in anger.

Whats your point? I take cute pitcures so I couldn't possibly be violent?
 
2012-04-01 03:41:08 AM  
SevenizGud: his medical treatment was in the farking police report

Paramedics in Florida do not suture lacerations on scene. So where were all these terrible injuries he suffered when he had a mug shot taken?
 
2012-04-01 03:41:34 AM  

LewDux: Are you Ice Cube?


Don't judge me for "Are We There Yet?"
 
2012-04-01 03:41:41 AM  

BSABSVR: never have amounted to anything


Never amounted to anything is EXCEPTIONALLY generous. That punk had cancer-on-society written all over him. His middle name was career criminal
 
2012-04-01 03:43:05 AM  

SevenizGud: Any of them that suckerpunch me in the face and break my nose, and bash my head into the sidewalk repeatedly, and then try to take my firearm away from me to kill me with it....yeah.


oooooooooh. so you were talking only of a totally unrelated and theoretical situation where you were attacked spontaneously and NOT after pursuing a random individual and instigating the confrontation. you had no intention of it being at all construed as having anything to do with this event at all. i see.

/in that case, why did you mention it then?
 
2012-04-01 03:43:07 AM  

BronyMedic: SevenizGud: his medical treatment was in the farking police report

Paramedics in Florida do not suture lacerations on scene. So where were all these terrible injuries he suffered when he had a mug shot taken?


On the back of his head. Read the FARKing police report before proving you don't know what the fark you are talking about
 
2012-04-01 03:43:12 AM  
If a black guy walking around at night would have shot a white kid because he felt threatened I'm sure things would have turned out the same.
 
2012-04-01 03:45:42 AM  

BSABSVR: LewDux: Are you Ice Cube?

Don't judge me for "Are We There Yet?"


You didn't exactly redeem yourself with First Sunday, now did you?
 
2012-04-01 03:45:57 AM  
SevenizGud: On the back of his head. Read the FARKing police report before proving you don't know what the fark you are talking about

Got a link to the actual police report there, smart ass? You keep touting that around left and right. I wasn't even aware that it had been made public.

In addition, if what really happened happened, that doesn't even make sense given the story. You'd expect more than an occipital laceration if someone was getting wailed on. That's what we in the medical business call "injuries inconsistent with reported mechanism."
 
2012-04-01 03:46:00 AM  

SevenizGud: BSABSVR: never have amounted to anything

Never amounted to anything is EXCEPTIONALLY generous. That punk had cancer-on-society written all over him. His middle name was career criminal


Because? Just say it. Stop dancing and hinting and say it.
 
2012-04-01 03:46:05 AM  

CliChe Guevara: instigating the confrontation


Baseless assertion. What makes you think he instigated? All you know is he followed. That isn't grounds for being punched in the face. Following someone on commons is not illegal.

But it's okay, right, because crackers deserve it, right?
 
2012-04-01 03:46:38 AM  

GAT_00: Weaver95: GAT_00: They have media sources, I guarantee it. If they wanted this leaked they could have.

But then that could come back to bite the prosecutors later on. leaking details on a case could create issues for the defense team to exploit.

The whole reason this actually became a story is because people refused to not be heard and to make others listen to a terrible injustice. For the people who are supposed to protect us to not do the same is something I have a problem with.


I agree that the police bear some responsibility here, but I think you're being overly harsh. This story wasn't just swept under the rug; it immediately blew up. It may be that at least some police had something to do with that. One thing I will say for the cops here is that I don't really see a police coverup, or if there is one it's halfhearted and there are dissenters within the force.
 
2012-04-01 03:48:15 AM  

BronyMedic: Got a link to the actual police report there, smart ass? You keep touting that around left and right. I wasn't even aware that it had been made public.


Then you are a total clueless nitwit that should keep his damn flapper shut. The police department has already started an investigation into the leak of the material. Damn educate yourself you tool.
 
2012-04-01 03:48:43 AM  

eraser8: You didn't exactly redeem yourself with First Sunday, now did you?


This is my sad face

img2.timeinc.net
 
2012-04-01 03:48:58 AM  
SevenizGud: Then you are a total clueless nitwit that should keep his damn flapper shut. The police department has already started an investigation into the leak of the material. Damn educate yourself you tool.

I asked you for a link. You got one, or are you just going to keep screaming like a two year old who got his toys taken away?
 
2012-04-01 03:49:27 AM  

BSABSVR: Because? Just say it. Stop dancing and hinting and say it.


Because he was a thug. There, I said. I feel so relieved now. A burden off my shoulders.
 
2012-04-01 03:50:07 AM  

mjbok: NBC deliberately editing the 911 call to make a non racist statement racist to fit their narrative.


Care to show evidence of this?
 
2012-04-01 03:51:25 AM  

SevenizGud: BronyMedic: Got a link to the actual police report there, smart ass? You keep touting that around left and right. I wasn't even aware that it had been made public.

Then you are a total clueless nitwit that should keep his damn flapper shut. The police department has already started an investigation into the leak of the material. Damn educate yourself you tool.


Do you have the link or not? Seems that if you can take the time to call him stupid, you can press CTRL+C, click the hyperlink button, press CTRL+V then resume the namecalling (with extra smug on top).
 
2012-04-01 03:53:27 AM  
This so-called "American Board of Recorded Evidence" (a board of the "American College of Forensic Examiners," right? As if... if they're still in college, how can they be experts?) is most likely nothing but a front for the NAACP. And this Owen cat is a "Chairman Emeritus"? That just means he's too senile to be chairman of anything these days.

In conclusion, this "expert" is totally bogus. I mean "duh!"
 
2012-04-01 03:53:42 AM  
SevenizGud: BronyMedic: I asked you for a link. You got one, or are you just going to keep screaming like a two year old who got his toys taken away?

In an interesting case of irony, I'm going to quote Trayvon here:

B.I.N.G. (biatch Im not google)

Do you want me to help you with your pre-algebra too, or are you going to keep screaming while you sodomize your infant daughter?


So, you're going to keep screaming like a two year old who got his toys taken away, falling back on a magical police report that only you have access to (apparently only offline, since you can't be bothered to link it), and generally foaming at the mouth with butthurt because people call you on being a frothing, pedantic troll?

Please. Post more. You're a funny guy. You. Not your text.
 
2012-04-01 03:53:54 AM  

SevenizGud: CliChe Guevara: instigating the confrontation

Baseless assertion. What makes you think he instigated? All you know is he followed. That isn't grounds for being punched in the face. Following someone on commons is not illegal.

But it's okay, right, because crackers deserve it, right?


how about witness testimony? we have him following, we have him instigating, we have a conflict. we don't know what happened from there. we don't even know how the fight took place as the only supposed eyewitness we thought we had to it turned out to be invented by breitbart. we have 911 tapes that makes it seem pretty likely that it was martin doing the screaming.
where in there is anything for the defense of zimmerman? he can't claim self-defense. whether he was beat up or not it is actually rather immaterial. people focus on that, but it isn't legally relevant. there is nothing else to defend zimmerman with at this point other than racism and wishful thinking.
 
2012-04-01 03:54:16 AM  

SevenizGud: BSABSVR: Because? Just say it. Stop dancing and hinting and say it.

Because he was a thug. There, I said. I feel so relieved now. A burden off my shoulders.


And again, why was acting like many (if not most) 17 year old boys indicative of being a thug? How was Trayvon Martin different?
 
2012-04-01 03:55:52 AM  

SevenizGud: BSABSVR: Because? Just say it. Stop dancing and hinting and say it.

Because he was a thug. There, I said. I feel so relieved now. A burden off my shoulders.


Apparently, nobody who did dumb shiat as a teenager ever amounted to anything, and thus, they deserve to be stalked and murdered.
 
2012-04-01 03:56:05 AM  

BronyMedic: So, you're going to keep screaming like a two year old who got his toys taken away


Uhm, since my last post was evidently too subtle for you to pick up, I'm going to hold your hand all the way through this time.

FALSE

PREMISE

Get it yet, or do you want me to draw you a pretty picture?
 
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