You might be lucky if: you fall off your bike in cardiac arrest and three doctors including a cardiologist are riding behind you

Jeff Foxworthy's new material isn't that good, really.

You might be a bit luckier if you don't go into cardiac arrest in the first place.

King Something: You might be a bit luckier if you don't go into cardiac arrest in the first place.

The only way you get lucky in Cardiac Arrest is if there's someone who's willing to start effective CPR the moment you go down, and there's an AED near by.

Otherwise, you're farked.

Dick Cheney takes his posse with him on bike rides?

LeroyBourne: Dick Cheney takes his posse with him on bike rides?

No, there were no bikes 300 years ago

/because he is old and 300 years ago would indicate that to be true

"Step aside, I'm a doctor!"

"Step aside, I'm a doctor!"

"Step aside, I'm a cardiologist!"

Doctor, doctor. Doctor, doctor. Doctor, doctor. Doctor, aaaand doctor.

Somewhere, Jim Fixx is pissed.

eraser8: Socialized medicine

Jealousy is ugly eh ?

Biking too hard can give you a heart attack-ack-ack-ack-ack-ack

I used to play pickup hockey. I signed up by my lonesome, but turned out most of the others had signed up as a group. Almost everyone was a paramedic, firefighter or police officer.

BronyMedic: King Something: You might be a bit luckier if you don't go into cardiac arrest in the first place.

The only way you get lucky in Cardiac Arrest is if there's someone who's willing to start effective CPR the moment you go down, and there's an AED near by.

Otherwise, you're farked.

Lucky me ;D

Although I did manage to get myself to the ER before the shiat rain started.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Biking too hard can give you a heart attack-ack-ack-ack-ack-ack

You oughta know by now.

Holden C: BronyMedic is right, the guy was luckier that a guy with an AED passed by than the fact he was followed by a cardiologist. CPR is better than nothing, but only slightly. And as long as someone knows how to do it effectively, you're no better off having a cardiologist do it than a 7th grader.

\is a doctor (the MD kind)

CPR has such a bad survival rate, only 2 percent I believe whereas an AED in the first minute is around 70 percent, a huge step up. Every place should have them, as they're also idiot proof too. You cannot screw up using an AED.

CLEAR!

BronyMedic: King Something: You might be a bit luckier if you don't go into cardiac arrest in the first place.

The only way you get lucky in Cardiac Arrest is if there's someone who's willing to start effective CPR the moment you go down, and there's an AED near by.

Otherwise, you're farked.

This is true. Ticker decides to stop, you either get a jump-start within 30 seconds or your family gets a life insurance payout (less burial costs).

Which is exactly why I said what I said.

I stopped at a bike crash once. Blood from the scalp, badly broken elbow. The guy insisted he was OK, and wanted to get back on (the remains of) his bike.

He was an orthopedic surgeon. AKA apparent dumbass

/shock...how does it work

Know a guy who flipped his car, got really hurt.

Out of the first three people to stop to help him one was a doctor (granted a kids doc but a doc nonetheless) and a nurse.

YouPeopleAreCrazy: I stopped at a bike crash once. Blood from the scalp, badly broken elbow. The guy insisted he was OK, and wanted to get back on (the remains of) his bike.

He was an orthopedic surgeon. AKA apparent dumbass

/shock...how does it work

Apparent? Have you met any orthopedic surgeons?

Awesome T-Shirt: You cannot screw up using an AED.

You're obviously not familiar with a large segment of the population I like to call "the general public."

fusillade762: Even luckier would be going into cardiac arrest in a hospital. I hear they're equipped to handle such things.

It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.

I had a similar incident several years ago, also in Toronto... mine didn't make the news. I fell off my bike on the Don River trail and smashed my face against the ground. Broke two teeth that lacerated through my upper lip and had other lacerations. Looked like I'd been in a bad bar fight.

Ten seconds later the cyclist behind me stopped. She was a doctor. Half a minute later... two cops on bicycles stopped. They radioed for an ambulance. Never seen cops on bicycles on that trail before or after that.

Awesome T-Shirt: CPR has such a bad survival rate, only 2 percent I believe whereas an AED in the first minute is around 70 percent, a huge step up. Every place should have them, as they're also idiot proof too. You cannot screw up using an AED.

It depends on where you're at in the United States as the rate of ROSC (Return of Spontaneous Circulation). Rate of survival, however, is not the same thing as survival to discharge, and it's not the same thing as neurologically intact survival to discharge.

About the best place to have a sudden cardiac arrest right now is Seattle, Washington. They boast the highest save rates in the nation, somewhere around 32%. The reason for that is EVERYONE there knows CPR, there are AEDs literally on every street corner, and they have a heavy ALS Ambulance Saturation with average response times around 5 minutes. Sadly, only about 30-50% of those will go home neurologically intact. Most will be pulled off life support, die within a few days from the reperfusion injuries, or end up in a nursing home with varying degrees of quality of life.

In Memphis (Where I live), it's about 12%, with 4.8% survival to discharge. The numbers have gotten higher thanks to a major initiative to push CPR training, public AED access, and the therapeutic hypothermia rollout.

Rodeodoc: I did my CPR course about 6 months ago and we were told that AED's were notorious for not working properly due to poor care and maintenance. What's your take on that?

Whoever told you that is speaking out of turn. Modern, biphasic AEDs are self-contained units which perform their own checks. The batteries usually have to be replaced every three to five years, but as long as they are sealed, they're good to go.

theMagni: Not quite true. Good CPR and an AED within one minute = 90% chance of survival. It drops by 10% a minute.

Key word, good. Studies out there pretty much say that people are NOT getting good CPR, and people aren't being trained near enough on doing it. Even medical professionals. Even worse is transporting full arrests by ambulance. There are studies out there which say your CPR effectiveness in a moving vehicle is next to zero.

The problem with CPR is that it does not fix the underlying problems. CPR will not restart a heart. Only reversing the cause of the arrest will do so. In most adults, it's correcting the electrical dysrhythmia with an electrical countershock with an AED. This is why the events of a cardiac arrest are described as a "Chain of Survival", each interlinking with the next to form the optimum chances. Early Defibrillation is useless without Early Access to 911 and CPR. Advanced Care can't save a corpse.

On the flip side, some people have heart attacks while cycling with a doctor, get immediate CPR, and don't make it.

/uncle, heart defect, insanely sudden.