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2012-03-31 08:17:19 PM
I guess there's no stoppering this sort of behavior.
 
2012-03-31 09:29:51 PM
In my heart I know there is no difference in the wine itself. However, I miss the ceremony of pulling the cork.
 
2012-03-31 09:30:41 PM
I'm fine with corks as long as THEY DON'T BREAK
 
2012-03-31 09:39:26 PM
TCA or TBA contamination, AKA "cork taint"

If it muffles farts, I'm all for it.
 
2012-03-31 09:53:32 PM

EvilEgg: In my heart I know there is no difference in the wine itself. However, I miss the ceremony of pulling the cork.


Pulling your cork out? In public!?
 
2012-03-31 10:03:32 PM
Screw tops are the best. That way in-between sips I can remove my straw.
 
2012-03-31 10:04:44 PM

Aar1012: I'm fine with corks as long as THEY DON'T BREAK


Properly stored, they shouldn't if it's actual cork.

If it's an artificial cork, then it's a shiatty wine anyhow, since the artificial corks lack the advantages of either real cork or a properly sealed screw-top, and are generally whatever mildly-permeable fill polymer the winery could find on short notice.
 
2012-03-31 10:06:51 PM
fungi called TCA (2,4,6-trichloroanisole) and TBA (2,4,6-tribromoanisole)

I'd rather give to TBA!
 
2012-03-31 10:08:49 PM
I never understood why they didn't switch to a screw top with a cork built into it. Seems obvious.
 
2012-03-31 10:09:33 PM
What about decantering?
 
2012-03-31 10:09:45 PM
Screw top, cork? What is this you talk of?

All I do is cut the box open, pull the spigot out and push the button on top to get my wine out of the box.
 
2012-03-31 10:11:08 PM

Jim_Callahan: Aar1012: I'm fine with corks as long as THEY DON'T BREAK

Properly stored, they shouldn't if it's actual cork.

If it's an artificial cork, then it's a shiatty wine anyhow, since the artificial corks lack the advantages of either real cork or a properly sealed screw-top, and are generally whatever mildly-permeable fill polymer the winery could find on short notice.


Bullshiat. Kendall Jackson Grand Reserve 2009 Chardonnay is a 92 point wine...and it uses a synthetic cork.

What's worse than fake cork is fake wine "enthusiasts" that act all snobbish about stupid pointless things like what the cork is made out of.

Synthetic corks are better than natural cork for MANY reasons. 1) the wine cannot be 'corked' by a synthetic cork 2) Natural cork is not sustainable, and cork trees are becomming rare. and 3) natural cork adds to the cost of the bottle of wine unecessarily.
 
2012-03-31 10:11:12 PM
Drinking screw cap wine so getting a kick out of these comments.

True story. College roommate had a new girlfriend over our apartment. Roommate's chatting away with the new girlfriend and gets the corkscrew out to open a bottle of wine. After struggling a bit trying to get the cork out, realizes that it's a screw cap bottle.
 
2012-03-31 10:12:02 PM
Heh. Cork Taint.
 
2012-03-31 10:12:08 PM
That's because there are no wine "aficionados". Just your typical assholes.

/Do you like the wine? Great! Enjoy and shut up.
 
2012-03-31 10:12:41 PM
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2012-03-31 10:13:06 PM
Box wine, biatches. BOX WINE!
 
2012-03-31 10:14:13 PM

Jim_Callahan: Aar1012: I'm fine with corks as long as THEY DON'T BREAK

Properly stored, they shouldn't if it's actual cork.

If it's an artificial cork, then it's a shiatty wine anyhow, since the artificial corks lack the advantages of either real cork or a properly sealed screw-top, and are generally whatever mildly-permeable fill polymer the winery could find on short notice.


Permeabilty only matters for wines which need some aging in the bottle, which is probably less than 1% of the actual wine consumed around the world.
 
2012-03-31 10:15:09 PM
The screw top has the advantage that you can buy it, open it in the car, and drink it on the way home. No need to keep the corkscrew in the glove compartment
 
2012-03-31 10:15:11 PM
Even the makers of some fine French wines are swapping to screw tops because there is a distinct advantage to using them.

a TON of top-quality New Zealand sauvingnon blanc makers use screw tops like Kim Crawford and Crossings Vinyards...and these are two wines that regularly score into the high 90's in their respective categories.

I recently purchased two different 96-point Bordeauxs that used screw tops, and on the label, they said they switched specifically because cork trees are being over-farmed and the way they are being harvested is not sustainable.

Besides, screw tops can be re-sealed air tight for enjoying the rest of a bottle the next day. Do that with a cork and it will leak unless you shove it so far back into the bottle that it potentially breaks.
 
2012-03-31 10:20:01 PM
The more you eat the more you fart :1) the wine cannot be 'corked' by a synthetic cork

Yeah, cork you too buddy .. I came in here to mention this.

But, I went to the Wikipedia article first, and was quite amused to see that "corked" redirects to "Cork taint".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corked
 
2012-03-31 10:20:59 PM
I never understood wine snobbery.

Its like anything else...sure, there are some wines that are very expensive and very good...but only people who are TRULY into wines would even notice the difference.

I love wine so much that I actually went to culinary school to learn how to cook foods to go with them....and I'm telling you: Find a wine YOU like...and everyone else and their opinions can go fark themselves.

Wine, just like most things...is subjective. enjoy it however you find it most pleasureable...and don't let the so-called "enthusiast" douchebags tell you otherwise.
 
2012-03-31 10:21:37 PM
After pulling approximately 20,000 corks in my life for personal/family wine consumption, I have become a screw-cap guy.
I walk into the liquor store and scan the shelves for:
1. screw caps
2. on sale or a great price
Then, I buy.
Next step is to ask distributor reps doing hand selling in the store what screw caps they recommend.
Then, I buy some more.

Screw caps all the way, baby.
 
2012-03-31 10:21:45 PM
You'd find it difficult to locate any wine - aside from sparkling wine - here in New Zealand that has a cork rather than a screw enclosure. It's pretty much the same for the Australian wines I've encountered too.
 
2012-03-31 10:25:02 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: Even the makers of some fine French wines are swapping to screw tops because there is a distinct advantage to using them.

a TON of top-quality New Zealand sauvingnon blanc makers use screw tops like Kim Crawford and Crossings Vinyards...and these are two wines that regularly score into the high 90's in their respective categories.

I recently purchased two different 96-point Bordeauxs that used screw tops, and on the label, they said they switched specifically because cork trees are being over-farmed and the way they are being harvested is not sustainable.

Besides, screw tops can be re-sealed air tight for enjoying the rest of a bottle the next day. Do that with a cork and it will leak unless you shove it so far back into the bottle that it potentially breaks.


They may have been lying to you. Cork farming in fact is good for biodiversity (new window). And aluminum is a very noxious substance, environmentally speaking.
 
2012-03-31 10:25:48 PM
Ha! "Cork taint".

Lately, I have found the cute little 4 packs of individual serve Reisling with screw caps. That way, I can have my ONE glass of wine once in awhile without the rest of the bottle sitting in the fridge for another month until the mood strikes me again.

No, I don't have any friends who will drink the rest of the bottle for me.
 
2012-03-31 10:26:26 PM

thisispete: You'd find it difficult to locate any wine - aside from sparkling wine - here in New Zealand that has a cork rather than a screw enclosure. It's pretty much the same for the Australian wines I've encountered too.


Indeed. And I must say, the fiancee and I are quite the fans of the Marlboro region sauvingnon blancs from your country...so bravo to you :)

MUUUCH more refined than the Sonoma sauvingon blancs...and less grassy too.

The Marlboro New Zealand S.Blancs are very pleasantly mineral with lots of fruit. Wonderful wines. ALL of my favorite sauvingnon blancs are Marlboro New Zealand wines.
 
2012-03-31 10:29:57 PM
Good riddance. Cork is the worst way to seal a wine bottle and would have been abandoned long ago were it not for the invention of the corkscrew. That it's still in use since the invention of the screw-cap is ridiculous.
 
2012-03-31 10:30:45 PM
I find it hard to get a cork into the hole in the bag.
 
2012-03-31 10:33:16 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: I never understood wine snobbery.

Its like anything else...sure, there are some wines that are very expensive and very good...but only people who are TRULY into wines would even notice the difference.

I love wine so much that I actually went to culinary school to learn how to cook foods to go with them....and I'm telling you: Find a wine YOU like...and everyone else and their opinions can go fark themselves.

Wine, just like most things...is subjective. enjoy it however you find it most pleasureable...and don't let the so-called "enthusiast" douchebags tell you otherwise.


Whoa ! A FARKer that speaks with common sense !
/ Beer snobs should heed these words as well.
 
2012-03-31 10:38:23 PM
They're pretty handy when going to the movies with the g/f. You ever see the kind of mess wine makes when using a screw driver to get in corked wine?
/i love the looks we get when sharing it in the theater straight out of the bottle.
 
2012-03-31 10:38:33 PM

EvilEgg: In my heart I know there is no difference in the wine itself. However, I miss the ceremony of pulling the cork.


Several hundred years of corkscrew technology lost forever. GODDAMMITSOMUCH!

/a good bottle of wine merits a good screw
 
2012-03-31 10:38:56 PM
Came for pics of Thunderbird, night train, etc, leaving disappoint.
 
2012-03-31 10:43:15 PM
But think of all the cork soakers that will have no corks to soak
 
2012-03-31 10:44:42 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: But think of all the cork soakers that will have no corks to soak


Fargin' bastages.
 
2012-03-31 10:45:18 PM

LeroyBourne: They're pretty handy when going to the movies with the g/f. You ever see the kind of mess wine makes when using a screw driver to get in corked wine?
/i love the looks we get when sharing it in the theater straight out of the bottle.


You can bring a screwdriver, but not a corkscrew, or even a knife with a corkscrew attachment?
 
2012-03-31 10:47:42 PM

Harridan: Lately, I have found the cute little 4 packs of individual serve Reisling with screw caps. That way, I can have my ONE glass of wine once in awhile without the rest of the bottle sitting in the fridge for another month until the mood strikes me again.


A month?

Harridan: No, I don't have any friends who will drink the rest of the bottle for me.


Friends?
 
2012-03-31 10:48:11 PM
Getting Too Old to pull the cork
 
2012-03-31 10:49:22 PM

whatshisname: LeroyBourne: They're pretty handy when going to the movies with the g/f. You ever see the kind of mess wine makes when using a screw driver to get in corked wine?
/i love the looks we get when sharing it in the theater straight out of the bottle.

You can bring a screwdriver, but not a corkscrew, or even a knife with a corkscrew attachment?


We forgot once, and I have tools in my car. We never forgot to bring a wine key after that.
 
2012-03-31 10:54:14 PM
What a BS article.

In fact screw tops are taking over for the 95% of wine which gets drunk in next few days after purchase.

It's annoying when you find you've accidentally bought a bottle with a cork and have to dig up the corkscrew.

Most wine drinkers aren't cork-dork snobs, they simply prefer the convenience of screw tops.

In next 5 years, corks will disappear
 
2012-03-31 10:56:56 PM
I live in Napa and there is a huge billboard going out of town to American Canyon that goes to the tune of "Cork: It's better for the wine, better for the environment".

As if this shiathole would say anything else.

/local community college has cork trees growing in the parking lot
 
2012-03-31 10:57:07 PM
"cork taint"

That's the space between the cork and, . . . um, . . . um, . . .

i.imgur.com
 
2012-03-31 10:57:40 PM
Cork lovers, there is a thing called a "wine pump". It works rather well for preserving the wine... if you happen to be one of those wimps that can't finish a bottle.

/like me
 
2012-03-31 10:58:08 PM

JohnCarter: The screw top has the advantage that you can buy it, open it in the car, and drink it on the way home. No need to keep the corkscrew in the glove compartment


THANK YOU.
 
2012-03-31 10:58:36 PM
Franzia seems to only carry 5 Liter boxes, does anyone make a larger more reasonable size?
 
2012-03-31 11:01:47 PM
Steve: Don't you want to smell the bottlecap?
 
2012-03-31 11:07:57 PM
One taboo among some wine drinkers is using a paper cup or mug instead of a proper wineglass,kinda like wearing sneakers with a tuxedo.
 
2012-03-31 11:10:39 PM

Jim_Callahan: Aar1012: I'm fine with corks as long as THEY DON'T BREAK

Properly stored, they shouldn't if it's actual cork.

If it's an artificial cork, then it's a shiatty wine anyhow, since the artificial corks lack the advantages of either real cork or a properly sealed screw-top, and are generally whatever mildly-permeable fill polymer the winery could find on short notice.


On the whole, I'd agree with that assessment, other than two awesome cheapish ($15ish) Cote de Rhones I've come across in the last couple of months, both with Rabbit killer artificial corks. The artificial cork restricts the ability of the wine to evolve in the bottle, but as a rule most wine doesn't evolve much in the bottle anyway.

/And seconded for the proper storage thing with real cork... the wine needs to be in contact with the cork, you can't store a bottle standing, the cork will dry out and likely disintegrate when you try to open the bottle.
 
2012-03-31 11:12:08 PM

tb tibbles: One taboo among some wine drinkers is using a paper cup or mug instead of a proper wineglass,kinda like wearing sneakers with a tuxedo.


Are my ice cubes gauche too?
 
2012-03-31 11:21:03 PM
If you open your own wine bottles, instead of having one of your people do it for you, then you have no business acting like you're too upper class for this-or-that bottle top.

That's like complaining that the portraits on the wall at the DMV are too gauche for your aristocratic sensibilities.
 
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