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2012-03-31 08:13:35 AM  
On the bright side, this may be just what his future cellmate needs in order to turn over a new Leaf.
 
2012-03-31 09:44:59 AM  

"Leaf has been recovering from surgery to remove a benign brain tumor and has traveled extensively throughout the West to publicize a book he authored."


That pretty sad. Only 35 and out of the NFL plus he has brain tumors. How did his life go so wrong?

 
2012-03-31 09:46:35 AM  
Arrested at the parole office? yeesh.
 
2012-03-31 09:49:16 AM  
Once again, Montana lets out a collective, "Son, I am disappoint."
 
2012-03-31 09:50:18 AM  
At least JaMarcus can beat the charges...
 
2012-03-31 09:54:17 AM  
Uhhhh... shut up Beavis
 
2012-03-31 09:56:45 AM  
Is it the lighting or is his face lopsided?
 
2012-03-31 10:21:21 AM  
From Wikipedia (with edits for clarity:
On draft day (in 1998) Peyton Manning was selected first by the Colts and Leaf was selected second by the Chargers. The Chargers signed Leaf to a four-year contract worth $31.25 million, including a guaranteed $11.25 million signing bonus. It was at the time, the largest signing bonus ever paid to a rookie. Leaf stated on draft day, "I'm looking forward to a 15-year career, a couple of trips to the Super Bowl and a parade through downtown San Diego".
 
2012-03-31 10:28:19 AM  

Harv72b: On the bright side, this may be just what his future cellmate needs in order to turn over a new Leaf.


i78.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-31 10:39:13 AM  
Nothing good ever happens in Meth falls.
 
2012-03-31 10:41:24 AM  
This couldn't happen to a more deserving individual. The six hours or so he spent in my home the Thanksgiving before he was drafted were enough to make me detest him.
 
2012-03-31 10:44:49 AM  

Wonderduck: This couldn't happen to a more deserving individual. The six hours or so he spent in my home the Thanksgiving before he was drafted were enough to make me detest him.


Do tell.
 
2012-03-31 10:51:37 AM  

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Greatest bust in NFL?

 
2012-03-31 10:52:10 AM  
sad. he was on jim rome show just maybe 6-8 months ago and said he had turned it around. sounded really positive and all, despite having been diagnosed with the brain tumors just a short, short time before.
 
2012-03-31 10:57:01 AM  

rickythepenguin: sad. he was on jim rome show just maybe 6-8 months ago and said he had turned it around. sounded really positive and all, despite having been diagnosed with the brain tumors just a short, short time before.


Yeah, I thought he was back in pullman, helping the cougars coahing staff. Sounded like he had accepted himself as a bust and gone back to where he was appreciated. Saw a story on him on Root sports a bit back. Thought he was in a good place.
 
2012-03-31 11:01:47 AM  
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What about me??
 
2012-03-31 11:06:05 AM  
Actually, I thought this guy was the biggest bust in NFL history:

cache.deadspin.com
 
2012-03-31 11:07:19 AM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: Sounded like he had accepted himself as a bust and gone back to where he was appreciated. Saw a story on him on Root sports a bit back. Thought he was in a good place.



yeah, he gave a really good interview on rome, not just the quick hitter one segment interview.....actually, i think he might have done an entire hour in studio. took calls even if i recall. sounded positive, recognized his place in sports history, owned up to his demons and his bad decisions.....sad to hear he evidently relapsed bigtime.

he was shilling his book which i never got around to reading. it was called something like "red 79 right" which was the play his cougars i think the story went, were hoping to run in the rose bowl but they never got the chance or some such.

one story he tolld was the reporter he got into the "DON'T TALK TO ME, ALRIGHT!", they'd patched things up and were friends or some such.

sad.
 
2012-03-31 11:10:08 AM  

Harv72b: Actually, I thought this guy was the biggest bust in NFL history:

[cache.deadspin.com image 640x360]



i always like the idiot that argues tony mandarich was teh biggest bust in history.

yeah, 9 year career, 2 pro bowls, i think one super bowl appearance. yeah. WHAT A FAILURE
 
2012-03-31 11:12:53 AM  

rickythepenguin: yeah, 9 year career, 2 pro bowls, i think one super bowl appearance. yeah. WHAT A FAILURE



ok, im an idiot. no pro bowls, no super bowl appearance, but a 7 year career. not a bust though.

not worth the hype, but that's the media's fault, not his.
 
2012-03-31 11:19:45 AM  

rickythepenguin: not worth the hype, but that's the media's fault, not his.


I'd go with Brain Bosworth long before I named Mandarich, even with the knowledge that his career was killed primarily by injuries. Or Todd Marinovich, although any quarterback drafted by the Raiders post-1968 is basically screwed.
 
2012-03-31 11:23:17 AM  

rickythepenguin: rickythepenguin: yeah, 9 year career, 2 pro bowls, i think one super bowl appearance. yeah. WHAT A FAILURE


ok, im an idiot. no pro bowls, no super bowl appearance, but a 7 year career. not a bust though.

not worth the hype, but that's the media's fault, not his.


Kind of like Robert gallery. FTR, at the time I definitely would have been ecstatic as a cards fan if Oakland had taken Fitzgerald and Gallery dropped to the Cardinals.
 
2012-03-31 11:24:00 AM  

rickythepenguin: eah, he gave a really good interview on rome, not just the quick hitter one segment interview.....actually, i think he might have done an entire hour in studio. took calls even if i recall. sounded positive, recognized his place in sports history, owned up to his demons and his bad decisions.....sad to hear he evidently relapsed bigtime.

he was shilling his book which i never got around to reading. it was called something like "red 79 right" which was the play his cougars i think the story went, were hoping to run in the rose bowl but they never got the chance or some such.

one story he tolld was the reporter he got into the "DON'T TALK TO ME, ALRIGHT!", they'd patched things up and were friends or some such.



October 6 2011.

Topics: Being addicted to painkillers and going to rehab 3 years ago | The Kansas City game while being in San Diego being the root of all evil for him | Not understanding the media back in the day | All he saw was the negativity | Dealing with failure was something he had never had to do | Not having people around him when adversity set in because he pushed them all away before | Several reasons why he didn't make it in the NFL | Should have stayed in college another year| The internet becoming big around the time he came into the league | Expectations | His tool set | Doesn't want anyone to be a bust | At least I wasn't picked in front of Peyton Manning | Biggest challenge for him in the NFL might have been the fame and defenses | In college I had 5 great wideouts so I could just pick on a nickel back | NFL Defensive Schemes | If there was a Hall of Fame for preseason I would be in it | His name doesn't go away in April | Trying to disappear after he quit football | Taking stuff way to serious | Things coming to a head | Being addicted to pain killers | Having pain in his wrist | May be able to give back to people now | Did a lot of Soul searching | The charge of my new life is my old one | Time at Washington State | Never asking people for help | Finding out he had a brain tumor | Just feeling sick and finding the tumor on a CAT scan | The Brain Tumor could have been a lot worse | Not using pain killers after going through surgery on the tumor | I can't take pain killers ever again | 596 Switch | 596 Switch was the play they would have run at the Rose Bowl had the clock not run out | 4 years at Washington State | Getting into it with media member Jay Posner back in the day | Talked to Jay Posner on a radio show recently | It was a embarrassing moment with Jay Posner | It could have been anyone that he would have blown up on; it had nothing to do with Jay | Jim's moment with Jim Everett | Enjoy doing radio work | Living in Montana | Wants Jim to stop by his summer house | (new window)
 
2012-03-31 11:28:45 AM  
Once a Coug always a Coug.
 
2012-03-31 11:32:57 AM  

fatalvenom: Wonderduck: This couldn't happen to a more deserving individual. The six hours or so he spent in my home the Thanksgiving before he was drafted were enough to make me detest him.

Do tell.


He was a boor. He treated my family like we should have been awed by his presence. He was rude when my mother said she was sorry, but she had never heard of him (note: sports were never her thing... she may have heard of Walter Payton, but only because we lived near Chicago). His idea of great humor was to throw a football to me... from 20 feet away... at full strength. The resulting bruise on my chest turned amazing colors (I played defensive line in high school... the only time I ever touched a football was when I was trying to recover a fumble). Basically, he was like a teenaged boy, only older, bigger, and substantially less well-mannered.

I will give him credit for one thing: he had a helluva arm. Physically, he looked exactly like what you'd want a QB to look like. But he was a sad excuse for a human being.
 
2012-03-31 11:34:12 AM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: FTR, at the time I definitely would have been ecstatic as a cards fan if Oakland had taken Fitzgerald and Gallery dropped to the Cardinals.



i;ve told the story before how int eh final game of the 2003 season, the Cards were like, 3-12 and the Vikings were tied with the Packers for the North; the winner obviously goes tot he playoffs, 2nd place misses out.

during the Cards/Vikes game, the Packers final was shown; pack lost. sun devil stadium, with about 55,000 people, 45,000 in purple and ogld, goes nuts. All they need to make the playoffs is a tie. Vikes carry a 17-6 lead into the 4th quarter. Arizona scraps back, Josh McCown throws a TD pass to keith poole as the clock hits triple zero. both teams storm the field, but the refs have to wait about 5 minutes to make the ruling that it was a force-out TD catch (which rule no longer exists in the NFL).

ballgame. Cards win.

the single greatest sporting event i've ever seen in person (new window)


why ami telling this story? The win put arizona in the 3 slot for the 2004 draft. We take Fitz.

Had we not won that game, we are probably picking 2nd. the riaders took Gallery #2.

interesting alternate history experitment to be had....arizona needed a QB. What if we had the second pick, and teh Eli / rivers trade was made with Arizona? aside from no Larry Fitz here, who knows what happens if Arizona had the option for Eli or Rivers?
 
2012-03-31 11:45:46 AM  

rickythepenguin: i;ve told the story befor


Definitely the second greatest moment in Arizona Cardinals Pre-warner history. Probably still ranks in the top twenty. I still think AZ takes fitz at 2 because of the connection to Dennis Green. Are you sure we wouldn't have been the first pick? I thought we had a shot at Eli... maybe not. I should look it up...

I think Nate Poole got a key to the city of Green Bay.
 
2012-03-31 12:00:24 PM  

rickythepenguin: rickythepenguin: yeah, 9 year career, 2 pro bowls, i think one super bowl appearance. yeah. WHAT A FAILURE


ok, im an idiot. no pro bowls, no super bowl appearance, but a 7 year career. not a bust though.

not worth the hype, but that's the media's fault, not his.


He actually did decently towards the end of his career. Got a few seasons in with a Peyton Manning led Colts team if I remember correctly.
 
2012-03-31 12:05:11 PM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: I still think AZ takes fitz at 2 because of the connection to Dennis Green. Are you sure we wouldn't have been the first pick? I thought we had a shot at Eli... maybe not. I should look it up...



yeah, good point about green.....but NYC was so besotted with Eli, they would have offered anything to arizona, especially since we needed a qb. arguably NYC makes the "your draft our guy, we'll draft yours" agreement with arizona.

fun scenario to kick around. but the point is, if the cards don't come back in that game, who knows how the teams' fortunes change? and the nfl in general. maybe NYC can't arrange that trade. or maybe they NYC makes that deal with Oakland. who knows wehre Rivers/Eli end up?

interesting.
 
2012-03-31 12:05:48 PM  
What would the NFL look like today if the Colts drafted Leaf instead of Manning?
 
2012-03-31 12:07:36 PM  

The Bestest: What would the NFL look like today if the Colts drafted Leaf instead of Manning?


This is an opportune moment to post the Chargers' empty trophy case photo.
 
2012-03-31 12:24:57 PM  
Probably old news by now...but there is a huge contrast that Indy has shown in the later years regarding interviewing Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf.

When they interviewed Leaf, they asked him what he was going to do if they drafted him? His answer was was go party like there's no tomorrow. When they asked him what was the first thing he was going to do with his money, he said "Hit up Vegas."

They interviewed Peyton. They asked him what he was going to do if they drafted Leaf instead of him? His answer was "Look, I don't mind Indy at all...great place, probably pretty fun. But if you don't draft me...I will destroy you for the next 15 years." When they asked the first thing he was going to do with his money...he said "I'm going to earn it."

As someone who hate all 3 Mannings...this should be pretty telling about what kind of a stark contrast there is between these 2 players.
 
2012-03-31 12:30:02 PM  

Fade2black: As someone who hate all 3 Mannings


Man, what did Cooper do to piss you off?

/I keed
 
2012-03-31 12:37:27 PM  
I can totally see this guy selling cell phones at a Verizon Kiosk.
 
2012-03-31 12:40:22 PM  

litespeed74: I can totally see this guy selling cell phones at a Verizon Kiosk.


Hmm...a douchy looking guy with an ill-deserved sense of confidence who looks like he's had run-ins with law? Totally fits the bill.
 
2012-03-31 12:43:25 PM  

litespeed74: I can totally see this guy selling cell phones at a Verizon Kiosk.


WHO'S YOUR CARRIER?


and as you are walking away, the ever-classy, under his breath but juuuuuuuuuuuust audible, "OK, HAVE FUN BURNING MONEY WITH YOUR CURRENT PLAN...."
 
rka
2012-03-31 12:44:35 PM  

rickythepenguin: Chupacabra Sandwich: FTR, at the time I definitely would have been ecstatic as a cards fan if Oakland had taken Fitzgerald and Gallery dropped to the Cardinals.


i;ve told the story before how int eh final game of the 2003 season, the Cards were like, 3-12 and the Vikings were tied with the Packers for the North; the winner obviously goes tot he playoffs, 2nd place misses out.

during the Cards/Vikes game, the Packers final was shown; pack lost. sun devil stadium, with about 55,000 people, 45,000 in purple and ogld, goes nuts. All they need to make the playoffs is a tie. Vikes carry a 17-6 lead into the 4th quarter. Arizona scraps back, Josh McCown throws a TD pass to keith poole as the clock hits triple zero. both teams storm the field, but the refs have to wait about 5 minutes to make the ruling that it was a force-out TD catch (which rule no longer exists in the NFL).

ballgame. Cards win.

the single greatest sporting event i've ever seen in person (new window)


why ami telling this story? The win put arizona in the 3 slot for the 2004 draft. We take Fitz.

Had we not won that game, we are probably picking 2nd. the riaders took Gallery #2.

interesting alternate history experitment to be had....arizona needed a QB. What if we had the second pick, and teh Eli / rivers trade was made with Arizona? aside from no Larry Fitz here, who knows what happens if Arizona had the option for Eli or Rivers?


That may be the greatest event you saw, but you neglected to link to the greatest call of that event.

Just listen to the anguish of Vikings radio play-by-play man Paul Allen and know Vikings fans pain.
 
2012-03-31 12:46:54 PM  

Dr. Steve Brule: Fade2black: As someone who hate all 3 Mannings

Man, what did Cooper do to piss you off?

/I keed


Archie is about as power hungry as any dad can be, and frequently manipulates the media in order to acclimate his sons accordingly.

Peyton would constantly throw his entire team under the bus before he got lucky and beat an awful Chicago team with no starting QB in the SB.

Eli manipulated the draft (same reason Elway can also DIAF).
 
2012-03-31 12:57:00 PM  

Wonderduck: fatalvenom: Wonderduck: This couldn't happen to a more deserving individual. The six hours or so he spent in my home the Thanksgiving before he was drafted were enough to make me detest him.

Do tell.

He was a boor. He treated my family like we should have been awed by his presence. He was rude when my mother said she was sorry, but she had never heard of him (note: sports were never her thing... she may have heard of Walter Payton, but only because we lived near Chicago). His idea of great humor was to throw a football to me... from 20 feet away... at full strength. The resulting bruise on my chest turned amazing colors (I played defensive line in high school... the only time I ever touched a football was when I was trying to recover a fumble). Basically, he was like a teenaged boy, only older, bigger, and substantially less well-mannered.

I will give him credit for one thing: he had a helluva arm. Physically, he looked exactly like what you'd want a QB to look like. But he was a sad excuse for a human being.


Out of curiosity, why was he at your Thanksgiving dinner in the first place?
 
2012-03-31 12:57:13 PM  
I see an eerie resemblance between the hoopla leading up to this year's draft and that of '98.

Hope RG3 ends up better off than Leaf, for his sake.
 
2012-03-31 01:11:15 PM  
Ryan Leaf, a bigger QB flop than Scott Mitchell??? I don't think so.
 
2012-03-31 01:13:53 PM  
This guy fails at life as hard as almost anyone.
 
2012-03-31 01:17:18 PM  

Balchinian: Ryan Leaf, a bigger QB flop than Scott Mitchell??? I don't think so.


Yeah, it's not even close. The number #93 pick in his draft is not nearly as big a flop as the #2 pick in his draft.

It is so not even close I have to think I am missing the joke in your comment.
 
2012-03-31 01:18:02 PM  

Fade2black: Dr. Steve Brule: Fade2black: As someone who hate all 3 Mannings

Man, what did Cooper do to piss you off?

/I keed

Archie is about as power hungry as any dad can be, and frequently manipulates the media in order to acclimate his sons accordingly.


Ugh, Archie needs to learn when to shut up. Seriously. Back during the whole "Are we going to keep or release Peyton Manning while drafting Andrew Luck" debacle, Peyton really needed to step up to the plate and kindly tell his father "shut the hell up and let me manage my own career". Let your sons speak for themselves, Archie.
 
2012-03-31 01:22:46 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Wonderduck: fatalvenom: Wonderduck: This couldn't happen to a more deserving individual. The six hours or so he spent in my home the Thanksgiving before he was drafted were enough to make me detest him.

Do tell.

He was a boor. He treated my family like we should have been awed by his presence. He was rude when my mother said she was sorry, but she had never heard of him (note: sports were never her thing... she may have heard of Walter Payton, but only because we lived near Chicago). His idea of great humor was to throw a football to me... from 20 feet away... at full strength. The resulting bruise on my chest turned amazing colors (I played defensive line in high school... the only time I ever touched a football was when I was trying to recover a fumble). Basically, he was like a teenaged boy, only older, bigger, and substantially less well-mannered.

I will give him credit for one thing: he had a helluva arm. Physically, he looked exactly like what you'd want a QB to look like. But he was a sad excuse for a human being.

Out of curiosity, why was he at your Thanksgiving dinner in the first place?


Easiest way to explain it is that he was a FOAFamily member.
 
2012-03-31 01:25:50 PM  

Fade2black: Eli manipulated the draft (same reason Elway can also DIAF).


Oh stop. The Chargers came out just as well as the Giants did on draft day due to the trade; in fact, I daresay the Chargers got the better end of the deal in terms of compensation. This sort of thing happens in the draft one way or another EVERY year. The difference in this particular case is that the Chargers didn't manage their boon as well as the Giants did in putting a supporting cast around Eli.

Balchinian: Ryan Leaf, a bigger QB flop than Scott Mitchell??? I don't think so.


Scott Mitchell was a 4th rd pick. Ryan Leaf was picked 2nd overall and on draft day, many sportswriters flamed Indy for picking Manning over him. There is no comparison at all, bust-wise.
 
2012-03-31 01:31:00 PM  

The Bestest: I daresay the Chargers got the better end of the deal in terms of compensation


Dare! Dare!

/Merriman and Kaeding vs. Two Super Bowl wins?
 
2012-03-31 01:40:39 PM  

Harv72b: rickythepenguin: not worth the hype, but that's the media's fault, not his.

I'd go with Brain Bosworth long before I named Mandarich, even with the knowledge that his career was killed primarily by injuries. Or Todd Marinovich, although any quarterback drafted by the Raiders post-1968 is basically screwed.


Marinovich
 
2012-03-31 02:11:09 PM  

srhp29: Balchinian: Ryan Leaf, a bigger QB flop than Scott Mitchell??? I don't think so.

Yeah, it's not even close. The number #93 pick in his draft is not nearly as big a flop as the #2 pick in his draft.

It is so not even close I have to think I am missing the joke in your comment.


The Bestest: Fade2black: Eli manipulated the draft (same reason Elway can also DIAF).

Oh stop. The Chargers came out just as well as the Giants did on draft day due to the trade; in fact, I daresay the Chargers got the better end of the deal in terms of compensation. This sort of thing happens in the draft one way or another EVERY year. The difference in this particular case is that the Chargers didn't manage their boon as well as the Giants did in putting a supporting cast around Eli.

Balchinian: Ryan Leaf, a bigger QB flop than Scott Mitchell??? I don't think so.

Scott Mitchell was a 4th rd pick. Ryan Leaf was picked 2nd overall and on draft day, many sportswriters flamed Indy for picking Manning over him. There is no comparison at all, bust-wise.


Sorry, I didn't realize the criteria of "flop" was based on draft position or what people's expectations of them were. I assumed flop meant just that...how hard they failed once they hit the NFL.
 
2012-03-31 02:19:14 PM  

Balchinian: Sorry, I didn't realize the criteria of "flop" was based on draft position or what people's expectations of them were. I assumed flop meant just that...how hard they failed once they hit the NFL.


There are hundreds of "flops" every year if that's the case. People who don't succeed at the highest professional level is as old as professional sports itself, and you generally never hear about them unless you're the type that follows every aspect of your team down to the 3rd reserve right guard.

What makes someone a noteworthy bust or not is precisely the expectation that was placed on them.
 
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