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(Gizmodo)   How to deal with your child's iPad tantrums. Or, alternatively, you could... hmmmm... I don't know... NOT GIVE YOUR 5 YEAR OLD AN iPAD   (gizmodo.com) divider line 198
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2012-03-31 12:50:57 AM
If your five-year-old has a goddamned iPad, you deserve whatever happens to either of them.
 
2012-03-31 12:55:48 AM
The extremity of these measures depends entirely what's being interrupted. If he's playing outside with his sister, the steps I take are fairly mundane. I give him a few, gentle time checks ("five minutes until dinner" ... "3 minutes until dinner" ...), and then offer something enticing enough to make putting down the ball seem like less of an intrusion ("Tonight's chicken has both teri and yaki on it!").

Isn't that precious. My mom's idea of transitioning was "Get in here right now or I'm giving your dinner to the dog!"
 
2012-03-31 12:59:47 AM
"If I need to transition my son from" activity A to activity B, blah blah blah.

HATE.
 
2012-03-31 01:00:55 AM
Turn it off, and come to the table/take a bath/do your homework/clean your room/get your PJs on/read a book/brush your teeth/play a board game with me/go outside/pick up your toys/play with the cat/play with the dog/feed the cat/feed the dog/clear the table/get your shoes on/get in the car.

I've got six and eight year old kids. It works fine at my house, because unlike the farking author, I know how to put my electronics down and can set an example, even though it's my job to work with them.
 
2012-03-31 01:41:34 AM
MadAzza: "If I need to transition my son from" activity A to activity B, blah blah blah.

HATE.


this this and MORE THIS

the answer to "dont spank your children" was not "let your kids be spoiled brats"
 
2012-03-31 01:59:11 AM
What the hell ever happened to Legos and Tinkertoys? Or actual parenting, for that matter?
 
2012-03-31 02:02:10 AM
RancidSorbet: What the hell ever happened to Legos and Tinkertoys? Or actual parenting, for that matter?

but that would require actual parenting!!
 
2012-03-31 03:19:31 AM
RancidSorbet: What the hell ever happened to Legos and Tinkertoys? Or actual parenting, for that matter?

Lego now costs more per pound than HP printer ink..
 
2012-03-31 04:18:35 AM
Shagbert: RancidSorbet: What the hell ever happened to Legos and Tinkertoys? Or actual parenting, for that matter?

Lego now costs more per pound than HP printer ink..


To be fair, Lego bricks are reusable and 100% backwards compatible.
 
2012-03-31 04:19:39 AM
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2012-03-31 04:21:58 AM
tl;dr: "I use a lot of modern parenting techniques that respect my child's rights. They don't work."
 
2012-03-31 04:23:09 AM
Horrible damned parent (I refuse the non-word "parenting") skills if you can't get your kid off an activity and into another one. If you're that lazy, though, there must certainly be some kind of app that can cause either a remote or timed shutdown of the device, making the issue more or less moot.

And I agree...give your Kindergartner a LeapPad, not an iPad.
 
2012-03-31 04:26:53 AM
If my hypothetical kid threw a tantrum over an iPad, they wouldn't have an iPad anymore until they were old enough to drive to the store themselves and get their own.

/Kids don't own anything
//Parents lend and give things to them because they love their kids
 
HBK
2012-03-31 04:29:03 AM
turbidum: Shagbert: RancidSorbet: What the hell ever happened to Legos and Tinkertoys? Or actual parenting, for that matter?

Lego now costs more per pound than HP printer ink..

To be fair, Lego bricks are reusable and 100% backwards compatible.


I went into the lego section of ToysRUs and some store in the mall to buy a gift for my niece. They had starwars Legos and other sets, but they didn't have a bucket full of, you know, regular legos. I didn't have any sets when I was a kid, just a bunch of mismatched, multicolored legos which became log houses, space ships, and airplanes. The fact that legos became clunky model kits is really disappointing. Do they still sell regular legos anymore?
 
2012-03-31 04:29:05 AM
My older sister is a bilingual special ed teacher. Her answer to tantrums/tears is simply waiting them out while informing them that act won't fly. Apparently it works.

/She just had a kid last February and in a way I feel sorry for my niece.
//Although with my job I've seen enough tantrums to make me think twice about producing my own crotchfruit.
 
2012-03-31 04:29:49 AM
Go outside
 
2012-03-31 04:30:03 AM
Introduce your kids to the iPaddle instead.

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2012-03-31 04:33:02 AM
fluffy2097: If my hypothetical kid threw a tantrum over an iPad, they wouldn't have an iPad anymore until they were old enough to drive to the store themselves and get their own.

/Kids don't own anything
//Parents lend and give things to them because they love their kids


THIS

Serpoltas:
Introduce your kids to the iPaddle instead.

[i565.photobucket.com image 376x448]


Do it early. Around age 15, they start enjoying it. :)
 
2012-03-31 04:34:06 AM
someone handed me an ipad 3 yesterday. I asked "what is this devise?" and the entire table laughed at and shamed me. I didn't know and hadn't seen one.
 
2012-03-31 04:37:10 AM
I'd like to add, when I was a kid I went outdoors and experienced the sun and water and the earth. It was amazing.
 
2012-03-31 04:40:23 AM
Devmapall: My older sister is a bilingual special ed teacher. Her answer to tantrums/tears is simply waiting them out while informing them that act won't fly. Apparently it works.

This. Right. Here.

I've worked with autistic kids for a couple of years now, and this is seriously one of the best behavioral techniques to deal with tantrums - don't give in, don't give them what they want (be it attention, iPad time, whatever), and they'll eventually realize that tantrums don't get them what they're looking for and knock off the tantrums. Of course, it requires consistency - it's actually worse to give in to a tantrum sometimes than it is to give in all the time (behaviors created by an intermittent schedule of reinforcement are very difficult to break), but all it takes is NEVER GIVING IN TO A TANTRUM. It's not rocket science, people.

/rant
 
2012-03-31 04:40:26 AM
I get to see this once in a blue moon while I'm shopping and some mother tries to pry her phone away from her kid, who probably found some kind of game to play on it. Generally the phone remains in the kid's possession because the parent is afraid to use force to take it away. I've seen full blown tantrums over phones before, and it doesn't get any better as the kids get older. If you don't buy little Suzie that iPhone 8 for her twelfth birthday coming up, she's going to hate you because you're making all the other kids hate her.
 
2012-03-31 04:41:11 AM
What is it with the lame parenting skills. I see a lot of mothers doing the "Please don't do that. " or the damn countdown thing. There should never be a "please" in there. Then again my situation is best.....2 incomes....no kids.
 
2012-03-31 04:41:21 AM
HATEHATEHATE

This idiot has to "transition" his kid from one activity to another? Morons like this are leading to the complete destruction of society - when his monster kid grows up it will expect everybody to transition and coddle him in the workplace. Ugh.

Kids aren't the center of the universe. If you're constantly tip-toeing around them in order to avoid a tantrum then you've failed as a human being.

The zombie apocalypse can't happen fast enough.
 
2012-03-31 04:41:49 AM
Devmapall: My older sister is a bilingual special ed teacher. Her answer to tantrums/tears is simply waiting them out while informing them that act won't fly. Apparently it works.

When I worked with kids, that was pretty much my approach. "let the tears fly, kid. That might work at home, but not with me. When you're done and ready to talk, come and see me, but until then cry somewhere where you won't disturb anyone else."
 
2012-03-31 04:43:46 AM
Yep. My best friend's daughter (4) is a hard-core iPad addict. She told me that she was worried about the kid spending too much time with the iPad. "Why don't you take it away from her?" I asked.

Her response: "I tried."

You're her mom, honey - you don't "try." But if you don't have kids you can't tell parents anything.
 
2012-03-31 04:44:19 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-03-31 04:46:30 AM
HBK: Do they still sell regular legos anymore?

Yeah, there are buckets of pieces and Creator sets which come with instructions to make 3 different models.
 
2012-03-31 04:47:12 AM
Nogale: Yep. My best friend's daughter (4) is a hard-core iPad addict. She told me that she was worried about the kid spending too much time with the iPad. "Why don't you take it away from her?" I asked.

Her response: "I tried."

You're her mom, honey - you don't "try." But if you don't have kids you can't tell parents anything.

"I TRIED"?
Oh, man...she's already set herself up with the worst parenthood she could imagine. And it's her own damn fault.
 
2012-03-31 04:48:24 AM
have a 19 month old that loves to watch videos of himself, his mom and me on it.

as well as a few apps.

he plays with it some days -- we hide it other days.

he definitely would over-use it if it was always available -- but hell, i'm one to talk.

it's called parenting for a reason -- because you PARENT and, no, it isn't always easy.

but this one seems simple.
 
2012-03-31 04:50:13 AM
ElwoodCuse: HBK: Do they still sell regular legos anymore?

Yeah, there are buckets of pieces and Creator sets which come with instructions to make 3 different models.


You can still get like, three-gallon buckets of all the standard bricks, and some of them have a bunch of the semi-neat stuff, like wheels and hinges and rotor mountings and stuff. Still expensive, but completely worth it. They also hone your Ninja walking skills across the carpet during the night.
 
2012-03-31 04:51:18 AM
If you have a 2-4 year old or a special needs kids, transitioning techniques are useful. If your seemingly normal kindergartener isn't putting down the ipad, it's time to man up and take control, mom. My kindergartener has a nabi pad. When I tell him to put it away, there may be some whining, but he puts the thing away. The evil mom-eye helps move things along. Your kids need to follow directions, period.
 
2012-03-31 04:52:32 AM
OOOOOOKKKKKKK. This is a whole new aspect to human stupidity that I never even slightly considered before.

And I'm pretty much of an expert in human stupidity from the various careers I've had.

My Mom and Dad would have a solution to kids and iPads: throw a tantrum and get the pad taken away for a day or two. Display the classic tantrum of screaming, rolling on the floor, throwing things, smacking Mom or Dad and you get swatted on the ass and confined to your room. Then the iPad would vanish for even longer.

I don't have kids. I recognized early on in life that raising them is a pain in the arse and I'm not that patient. However, I love kids -- so long as they belong to someone else. That's why, for some years, I was very active in working with kids.

For the first part, I'd not buy a rather expensive iPad and load it with somewhat costly software for a 5 year old to use. They're far to easy to throw during a spat of temper and break.

That's kind of like giving a 16 year old a high end corvette for his first car. You KNOW it's going to get some serious dents along with your kid.

I've a desktop and laptop. I don't carry either one with me when I have to go out. My cell does nothing much but do calls and text. No internet connection, no video, just the type that would send a typical teen these days screaming in rage if they got one.

I used to let my niece play with my PC -- disconnected from the internet, using a series of graphic programs and games. The only thing she could have hurt if she threw a tantrum back then would have been the keyboard.

I'd probably get real upset by whatever electronic gizmo parents will give to their kids in about 100 years. Probably laser pointers that can actually burn holes in things.
 
2012-03-31 04:52:36 AM
White peopleBad parents problems.
/Serious
//Heard people of all races say "blank is a picky eater"
 
2012-03-31 04:52:46 AM
Actually subby the proper target consumer for Apple products are children, of all ages, but mostly of mental capacity.
 
2012-03-31 04:53:15 AM
HBK: turbidum: Shagbert: RancidSorbet: What the hell ever happened to Legos and Tinkertoys? Or actual parenting, for that matter?

Lego now costs more per pound than HP printer ink..

To be fair, Lego bricks are reusable and 100% backwards compatible.

I went into the lego section of ToysRUs and some store in the mall to buy a gift for my niece. They had starwars Legos and other sets, but they didn't have a bucket full of, you know, regular legos. I didn't have any sets when I was a kid, just a bunch of mismatched, multicolored legos which became log houses, space ships, and airplanes. The fact that legos became clunky model kits is really disappointing. Do they still sell regular legos anymore?


I honestly don't remember ever getting a bunch of "regular" Legos when I was a kid (I'm 27). We always bought them in sets that later got mixed together.

If you really want to eschew buying in sets, you can always go to their website and pick and choose what bricks she's getting, and in a way create your own set.
 
2012-03-31 04:59:19 AM
Nogale: Yep. My best friend's daughter (4) is a hard-core iPad addict. She told me that she was worried about the kid spending too much time with the iPad. "Why don't you take it away from her?" I asked.

Her response: "I tried."

You're her mom, honey - you don't "try." But if you don't have kids you can't tell parents anything.


This part right here. God forbid, you, as someone without children try to tell one of The Exalted anything about how to deal with their little brats. You clearly know nothing, and couldn't possibly offer any sort of advice.
 
2012-03-31 04:59:34 AM
If Obama's mom hadn't had a thing for that guy from Africa, The Prez could have had a child who looked like this kid.
 
2012-03-31 05:02:06 AM
Ginormo Box-o-Lego (new window)
 
2012-03-31 05:02:56 AM
buckler: ElwoodCuse: HBK: Do they still sell regular legos anymore?

Yeah, there are buckets of pieces and Creator sets which come with instructions to make 3 different models.

You can still get like, three-gallon buckets of all the standard bricks, and some of them have a bunch of the semi-neat stuff, like wheels and hinges and rotor mountings and stuff. Still expensive, but completely worth it. They also hone your Ninja walking skills across the carpet during the night.


With my son Legos weren't so much of a problem as the Matchbox cars. They're as bad as, if not worse than stepping onto barefooted. Plus there's the additional hazard of them having wheels, which throw you off balance. I ended up having to take my son's Matchbox collection away for awhile when he didn't pick them up as told.
 
2012-03-31 05:03:49 AM
This reminds me of the Daily Mail writer who bought her 3 kids a single Nintendo DS and was SHOCKED AND APPALLED when the precious snowflakes began to fight over the mind-corrupting satan device.
 
2012-03-31 05:03:58 AM
My son is nearly 3 now, and I admit, I give in to tantrums sometimes. I just cannot take listening to the crying. I have no patience for it. It's not about "being his friend" or being afraid to discipline...I just simply cannot take the crying. I feel ican deal with him more strictly when he's just a bit older and can understand a little better. If peace means lollipops at 6:30 in the morning, then break out the blow-pops...

My wife is much bettr at being a miserable biatch to our son, let her scream at him. Though that noise is just as bad.

/Shoot me now
 
2012-03-31 05:10:09 AM
Rik01: OOOOOOKKKKKKK. This is a whole new aspect to human stupidity that I never even slightly considered before.

I didn't think that was possible. I'm honestly surprised that something surprises you!

devildog123: Nogale: Yep. My best friend's daughter (4) is a hard-core iPad addict. She told me that she was worried about the kid spending too much time with the iPad. "Why don't you take it away from her?" I asked.

Her response: "I tried."

You're her mom, honey - you don't "try." But if you don't have kids you can't tell parents anything.

This part right here. God forbid, you, as someone without children try to tell one of The Exalted anything about how to deal with their little brats. You clearly know nothing, and couldn't possibly offer any sort of advice.


Not that it gets any better if you do have kids, it just shifts to "well, that might work for your kids, but mine are different...."
 
2012-03-31 05:12:39 AM
pacmanner: What is it with the lame parenting skills. I see a lot of mothers doing the "Please don't do that. " or the damn countdown thing. There should never be a "please" in there. Then again my situation is best.....2 incomes....no kids.


Good parents say please because they like to lead by example. They also have the power in the household and their kids know it.
 
2012-03-31 05:13:40 AM
publikenemy: let her scream at him

That's not going to make the crying any better.
 
2012-03-31 05:14:01 AM
This is sad. A five year old shouldn't even know what video games are. His ass should be outside with other children in the sun and fresh air.
 
2012-03-31 05:14:16 AM
publikenemy: My son is nearly 3 now, and I admit, I give in to tantrums sometimes. I just cannot take listening to the crying. I have no patience for it. It's not about "being his friend" or being afraid to discipline...I just simply cannot take the crying. I feel ican deal with him more strictly when he's just a bit older and can understand a little better. If peace means lollipops at 6:30 in the morning, then break out the blow-pops...

My wife is much bettr at being a miserable biatch to our son, let her scream at him. Though that noise is just as bad.

/Shoot me now


The key is to reward him when he's behaving nicely, and telling him so. "Catch him" behaving well. When the crying starts up, torturous as it is, put yourself on "ignore". He'll quit. Follow that pattern consistently, and he'll soon learn that he gets things he likes when he behaves well, and tantrums lead to nobody giving a damn what he wants.

/not trying to tell you your biz, just experience to share. It ain't easy.
 
2012-03-31 05:17:44 AM
Nogale: Yep. My best friend's daughter (4) is a hard-core iPad addict. She told me that she was worried about the kid spending too much time with the iPad. "Why don't you take it away from her?" I asked.

Her response: "I tried."

You're her mom, honey - you don't "try." But if you don't have kids you can't tell parents anything.


Is your friend smaller and weaker than a four year old? If not I don't see why she was unable to reach across and actually grab an iPad and remove it from the four year old's grasp. I guess I must be stupid or something.
 
2012-03-31 05:18:24 AM
Terrible Old Man: This is sad. A five year old shouldn't even know what video games are. His ass should be outside with other children in the sun and fresh air.

Our parents said the same thing about TV, but they were right. Nothing like coming home exhausted after running rampant in the neighborhood, visiting the playground with the jungle gym made out of lead piping mounted over concrete and the splintery rotted-pine playset. If we got lucky, we'd find a dead bird and pull its guts out with a stick, or just have rock fights. That's a good time.
 
2012-03-31 05:18:29 AM
Also kids only learn from watching you. Obviously you neglect your kids just so you can play your stupid iPad all day. Your kid shouldn't need transitioning since the kid should be doing things WITH you.
 
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