Just got back from Starbucks, and everyone who works there always seems really, really happy.

If they are going to school to be an engineer, especially in computers, then they are set.

/if you have a CS degree and can't find work, that means either you live in the wrong area or you're just not good

organizmx: Just got back from Starbucks, and everyone who works there always seems really, really happy.

I assume that's all the free caffeine.

I graduate this year and I already have a job with an engineering consulting firm. Suck it Liberal arts students

organizmx: Just got back from Starbucks, and everyone who works there always seems really, really happy.

I had to stop going to a smaller coffee chain called Dutch Bros. Their stuff is great, but everyone must be required to be SUPER HAPPY at all times. They're bug eyed, loud, with blaring pop music in the background, and immediately start acting like we're long lost friends (asking me what I'm doing, what I'm up to, what are my plans for the weekend, etc). It's the same at every location and it's awful. I'm always courteous, but I'm just looking for a coffee, buddy, not a new best friend.

Yet I cannot find enough people proficient at 3D Studio max, AutoCad 3D, Photoshop and Sketch up.

Knowledge is awesome but learn some goddamm skills kids. Put the Gameboy down.

Wayne 985: organizmx: Just got back from Starbucks, and everyone who works there always seems really, really happy.

I had to stop going to a smaller coffee chain called Dutch Bros. Their stuff is great, but everyone must be required to be SUPER HAPPY at all times. They're bug eyed, loud, with blaring pop music in the background, and immediately start acting like we're long lost friends (asking me what I'm doing, what I'm up to, what are my plans for the weekend, etc). It's the same at every location and it's awful. I'm always courteous, but I'm just looking for a coffee, buddy, not a new best friend.

See, I take the Zoidberg approach, and I'm all like "Horray! People are talking to me!"

mkmcco03: I graduate this year and I already have a job with an engineering consulting firm. Suck it Liberal arts students

I see your Aspergers is already well developed. You will make an excellent engineer.

Why anyone would major in English or art history is beyond me.

Had a friend who majored in ah and claimed he was going to appraise art. His most comment phrase now is: "would you like to know what our specials are?"

SoCalSurfer: Why anyone would major in English or art history is beyond me.

Had a friend who majored in ah and claimed he was going to appraise art. His most comment phrase now is: "would you like to know what our specials are?"

Gah autocorrect, *common*

What a load of crap the employment market has become. Every ad for employment requires college.
My son-in-law was looking to hire a beer display person to build displays in supermarkets. HR gave him the minimal requirements the the person should possess, yes a degree from college was a requirement.

I'm an excellent driver: mkmcco03: I graduate this year and I already have a job with an engineering consulting firm. Suck it Liberal arts students

I see your Aspergers is already well developed. You will make an excellent engineer.

Ass burgers is gay terminology for self made SEXTILLIONAIRE

Douchey engineers in 3........2.......1............

Unfortunately for those graduates, fast food places won't hire them, since they assume that they'll bolt once they find a career type job.

T.M.S.: Yet I cannot find enough people proficient at 3D Studio max, AutoCad 3D, Photoshop and Sketch up.

Knowledge is awesome but learn some goddamm skills kids. Put the Gameboy down.

What he really means is I'm too lazy to train someone..

There is no such thing as the perfect employee, sir. You might as well be hunting for unicorns.

I just interviewed for a mgmt job in the ER and although it went well, I did not get the jerb. I'm getting a kick, etc.

cig-mkr: What a load of crap the employment market has become. Every ad for employment requires college.
My son-in-law was looking to hire a beer display person to build displays in supermarkets. HR gave him the minimal requirements the the person should possess, yes a degree from college was a requirement.

If there's one universal thing college kids are knowledgeable about - it's beer.

We just had our second round of layoffs this year, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...

And to some of you in this thread: do you really want to live in a world where everybody only bothers with engineering and accounting majors?

Shadowknight: gopher321: Well, the world needs ditch diggers too.

Not to be pedantic, as I am sure you are being sarcastic, but that line usually refers to stupid folks and/or those who choose not to go to college..

Well since you don't necessarily need to be smart to get a college degree it still works.

T.M.S.: Yet I cannot find enough people proficient at 3D Studio max, AutoCad 3D, Photoshop and Sketch up.

Knowledge is awesome but learn some goddamm skills kids. Put the Gameboy down.

I know a lovely lady who can do all that shiat and had a hard time finding a job.

Shadowknight: gopher321: Well, the world needs ditch diggers too.

Not to be pedantic, as I am sure you are being sarcastic, but that line usually refers to stupid folks and/or those who choose not to go to college.

Truth be told, I kind of wish I had gone into trades. Don't get me wrong, I love being a medic and helping people at their most vulnerable, but it's not exactly high pay. If you're lucky enough to BE paid, that is, as many places rely heavily if not exclusively on volunteers.

But a good licensed and bonded plumber or electrician is making ~$100 an hour in most places and has great job security. Things always break or clog, after all.

I would miss helping the sick and injured, but I would be missing it from the deck of my freaking boat.


That's something similar that I've been telling a buddy of mine. He went and wasted 5 years getting a BS of Applied Science or some crap and was having hell finding a job that he wanted. He would get more frustrated when he went out and the barrista had a master's degree and was serving him coffee. The waitress bringing his food had a BA.

On the flip side, I have another buddy that started trade school this year going for HVAC and he's got three job offers lined up for him the second he graduates. All of them wanting to start him at about $20/hr. All he has to do is pick where he wants to go, whether he wants to do the HVAC at a plant or wants to do commercial and residential calls.

You're absolutely right, man. Those tradesmen, plumbers, electricians, HVAC, that's where the real money is at right now and where the job growth is. If I wasn't set in what I was doing, I'd seriously consider going back to school and getting my plumbers licenses.

FTA: The only negative positive in the picture for Chicago-area graduates is that they might need to move to improve their employment prospects lives.

FTFT
Been there, then moved

jj325: Seriously, if you get your degree in something like Art History/Philosophy/Women's Studies do you really have a career plan that doesn't involve Starbucks/Wal-Mart/McDonalds?

My english degree and less than $20k in student loans are working out great at the nuclear reactor I work at.... no seriously

As a grad with a fantastic job offer, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/assistant to the assistant jizz mopper is a very coveted position in these parts!

Headline pointlessly trollish.

Good news is good news.

T.M.S.: Yet I cannot find enough people proficient at 3D Studio max, AutoCad 3D, Photoshop and Sketch up.

Knowledge is awesome but learn some goddamm skills kids. Put the Gameboy down.

Any engineer should be proficient in at least 3 of those 4 but the catch is you have to pay them. Look for engineering tech (ie engineering diploma rather than degree) they probably have enough knowledge that they could be highly productive in less than a year. I have no idea what your particulars are so please don't take this personally, but the problem most companies have in this area is that they expect a degree to to be the same as a diploma. You still need to train your employees regardless of how many letters they have after their name.

Also, ITT: People who didn't actually read the article but assumed the headline was an accurate summary thereof.

SecretAgentWoman: I have 2 kids in college as of this year.

Dear god, I don't want them coming back or asking for help with those student loans.

Please, .... economy, I'm begging here....

If they're in one of the main categories (law, medicine, etc) then they'll be fine.
But if Junior(s) are graduating with a degree in Twitter Hashtags, then yeah, get the welcome back mat out.

Franco: T.M.S.: Yet I cannot find enough people proficient at 3D Studio max, AutoCad 3D, Photoshop and Sketch up.

Knowledge is awesome but learn some goddamm skills kids. Put the Gameboy down.

What he really means is I'm too lazy to train someone..

There is no such thing as the perfect employee, sir. You might as well be hunting for unicorns.

You think it's too much to ask that my employees be able to effectively operate a computer?

A recent grad from any decent design school has no excuse not to be proficient in these basic skills.

Unless they LIKE working at McDonalds.

organizmx: Just got back from Starbucks, and everyone who works there always seems really, really happy.

It's the cocaine on the frosted mini-wheats they eat every morning.

gopher321: Well, the world needs ditch diggers too.

Jesus, you people are assholes.

Gunny Highway: T.M.S.: Yet I cannot find enough people proficient at 3D Studio max, AutoCad 3D, Photoshop and Sketch up.

Knowledge is awesome but learn some goddamm skills kids. Put the Gameboy down.

I know a lovely lady who can do all that shiat and had a hard time finding a job.

Where does she live?

T.M.S.: Franco: T.M.S.: Yet I cannot find enough people proficient at 3D Studio max, AutoCad 3D, Photoshop and Sketch up.

Knowledge is awesome but learn some goddamm skills kids. Put the Gameboy down.

What he really means is I'm too lazy to train someone..

There is no such thing as the perfect employee, sir. You might as well be hunting for unicorns.

You think it's too much to ask that my employees be able to effectively operate a computer?

A recent grad from any decent design school has no excuse not to be proficient in these basic skills.

Unless they LIKE working at McDonalds.

No, the problem is your choice of software. SolidWorks is much better than AutoCad 3D

mdking09: jj325: Seriously, if you get your degree in something like Art History/Philosophy/Women's Studies do you really have a career plan that doesn't involve Starbucks/Wal-Mart/McDonalds?

My english degree and less than $20k in student loans are working out great at the nuclear reactor I work at.... no seriously

Fukoshima?

rustypouch: No, the problem is your choice of software. SolidWorks is much better than AutoCad 3D

So much this, and I taught AutoCad for a year when I was between 'real' jobs. SolidWorks is the cats ass, but it costs about 10x more than AutoCad.

Serious question:

If you have a degree and cannot find a job, would it be reasonable to think that you could work at McDonald's and move up into lead or management pretty quick ? I mean look at the people who work at Walmart. At least here in Florida, they are retards of the highest order. I mean even a supervisor role in the night shift is better than homelessness.

Does anyone know anyone who has done this?