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2012-03-30 11:28:57 AM

Weaver95: GAT_00:
Yes, things could be different. But what you don't get is that isn't going to happen. And the most likely scenario is actually to have one party utterly dominate to force new parties. So we aren't going to have new parties for a while. You have two choices. What's the only smart one?

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No, lets play global thermal nuclear war.
 
2012-03-30 11:29:52 AM

phaseolus: SuperTramp: I_C_Weener: Both sides are bad so vote Democrat? Stop confusing me with your feminine wiles!!!

No, what I'm saying is that I'm [not... ? ] sure if there's really any difference.

/other than who SecretAgentWoman would sleep with.


Disappointments re: NDAA and other issues notwithstanding, here's something I'd like you to consider: Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 79 years old, is a cancer survivor, and might be the next Supreme Court justice to leave the bench. It wouldn't be a surprise if this happens before 2017.

Would you prefer Obama nominate her replacement, or Romney? And if Obama's president, what kind of nominee could be confirmed if the Senate is majority Republican? Or majority Democrat by a slim majority? Majority Democrat by a large majority?

Do what you want, ultimately every candidate needs to earn your vote, but I hope you're not considering staying home in November...


Also consider the legislative agenda that will emerge from a GOP-controlled Congress (as looks likely, even with an Obama victory). We know what's in it - it's been on display for the last two years in swing states and rust belt states with Tea Party governors - and it would all be signed by a Republican president.
 
2012-03-30 11:30:23 AM

Notabunny: fta The Wisconsin numbers come the same week that a Quinnipiac Poll gives Obama leads in the swing states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida -- again, with significant leads among women voters.

Is there a model in which Romney can lose Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida but win the election?




I don't think it is even that many states. If I recall correctly no Republican has won without Ohio. If latest polls are correct , Obama is leading in not only those three swing states but also Va. If you add the probable and likely Blue states with Ohio, Pa. and Va. Obama would have over 270.
 
2012-03-30 11:30:25 AM
It is sort of sad that the best campaign ad for Obama has been the RNC's own debates...

And they KEEP going. I wonder if Santorum realizes that he's Obama's best fund raiser?
 
2012-03-30 11:30:26 AM

HotWingConspiracy: randomjsa: You know how GOP comentators have been ragging on the ladies pretty hard lately?

No actually I've just been listening to bald faced lies and misrepresentations by liberals about GOP commentators as said liberals desperately attempt to make an issue out of something that doesn't exist.

And why are they doing this?

Because running on Obama's record up to this point would be a nice repeat of 2010 so they have to make fake issues and hope it gets them enough votes to hold on.

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oh very nice.
 
2012-03-30 11:32:50 AM
Not sure why women find statements like; if you impregnated during a rape you should give birth to the child and thank god for the baby he has blessed you with (paraphrased from one of Frothy's idiot statement)
 
2012-03-30 11:33:33 AM
The core problem with third parties in this country is that they'll never be viable AS A THIRD PARTY. If one starts to gain anything resembling real influence, one of two things will happen: Assimilation or replacement. In the first case, one of the main two parties will do what monopolies have always done, and tack that third party's stance to their own. It will be a half-assed, lip-servicey version, but their greater resources and messaging ability will make up for that. In the end-game, that third party will be absorbed into the main party and left a shell. The Libertarians on the right, the Greens on the left, and others have had this happen.

The other possibility is basically what happened when the Republicans replaced the Whigs. The schism is severe enough to prevent reconciliation, such as a single major policy divide, and the original party is left inviable, leaving the offshoot party to take its place. Note, though, that after this happens, there are still only two major parties in the game. There's just no room for three in the current system.
 
2012-03-30 11:34:47 AM
I think the real question is: Why is it not very near or exactly 100-0?
 
2012-03-30 11:35:08 AM

Maud Dib: SecretAgentWoman:



Now...Barack...oh yeah, and bring those sunglasses with you...

/puts on Rick James...

WHAAA???
No Barry White?


What happened to Al Green?
 
2012-03-30 11:36:11 AM

Last Man on Earth: The core problem with third parties in this country is that they'll never be viable AS A THIRD PARTY. If one starts to gain anything resembling real influence, one of two things will happen: Assimilation or replacement.


So what you're saying is that once a third party becomes successful, it by definition would no longer be a "third party"?
 
2012-03-30 11:36:53 AM

GoodyearPimp: I think the real question is: Why is it not very near or exactly 100-0?


Because the only people to hate women more than misogynist menfolk, are other women...
 
2012-03-30 11:37:00 AM

urbangirl: Maud Dib: SecretAgentWoman:



Now...Barack...oh yeah, and bring those sunglasses with you...

/puts on Rick James...

WHAAA???
No Barry White?

What happened to Al Green?


Mary Woodson White.
 
2012-03-30 11:37:24 AM

Dog Welder: This just proves we need to end the suffrage of women.


Indeed. In every great state of the Union, women are suffraging, sometimes multiple times a year.

It's a great hardship shared by families across the country; touching on the lives of little children - the poor dears, drug out of their homes and schools, watching their mothers suffraging.
 
2012-03-30 11:39:26 AM

Bloody William: Hee hee... big gender gap.


When Obama sang that Al Green song, everyone's big gender gap opened.
 
2012-03-30 11:39:39 AM
The GOP is only trying to weed out the RINOs in their party. That includes women. Purge the unbelievers!
 
2012-03-30 11:41:01 AM

GoodyearPimp: I think the real question is: Why is it not very near or exactly 100-0?


For the same reason there are still black and gay republicans and for the same reason anybody with an income under $250k would ever vote for a republican. Some people apparently have a seriously warped sense of self-interest and would rather vote to "punish" other people they disapprove of even if it means they are voting to simultaneously punish themselves.

If it weren't for people actively seeking to hurt themselves at the polls republicans would only get maybe one or two percent of the vote...
 
2012-03-30 11:43:18 AM

Fart_Machine: The GOP is only trying to weed out the RINOs in their party. That includes women. Purge the unbelievers!


It's not that these laws are about hating women.

Just the lippy ones who don't know their place.
 
2012-03-30 11:45:36 AM

randomjsa: You know how GOP comentators have been ragging on the ladies pretty hard lately?

No actually I've just been listening to bald faced lies and misrepresentations by liberals about GOP commentators as said liberals desperately attempt to make an issue out of something that doesn't exist.

And why are they doing this?

Because running on Obama's record up to this point would be a nice repeat of 2010 so they have to make fake issues and hope it gets them enough votes to hold on.


You're a joke and a poor one at that.
 
2012-03-30 11:45:54 AM

Mugato: big lead for President Obama in a swing state -- and more evidence that he is benefiting from a growing gender gap.

So that's what Santorum was crying about when he said Obama was dividing the nation. Sorry Rick but this is your party's doing. All Obama's doing is sitting back and laughing.


Well hold on just a second. Obama did do one thing besides sit back and laugh: He only changed the language regarding coverage in such a way that just about everybody involved wound up really liking it, including Catholic healthcare institutions. The Catholic Bishops and Ultra Conservative GOPers were about the only people left still complaining about it.

This is proabably bad news though....for Obama.
 
2012-03-30 11:46:56 AM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: "She's in her late 20s! They said she was 'a student'!" As if people in their mid-late 20s in law school isn't *common*.


What would they know about higher education and the age at which one pursues it?
 
2012-03-30 11:47:59 AM
Santorum calling Obama an anti-war ni-BONG. Obama increasing his lead in Wisconsin. Five fake names among the 900,000 recall petitions. Can we get a Wisconsin trifecta in the politics tab?
 
2012-03-30 11:48:01 AM
Reap what you sow, GOP... Reap what you sow.


This thread is amazingly free of the usual idiots saying it's all bullshiat cooked up by the "Liberal Media"... I only see one idiot doing that.
 
2012-03-30 11:50:21 AM

Splinshints: GoodyearPimp: I think the real question is: Why is it not very near or exactly 100-0?

For the same reason there are still black and gay republicans and for the same reason anybody with an income under $250k would ever vote for a republican. Some people apparently have a seriously warped sense of self-interest and would rather vote to "punish" other people they disapprove of even if it means they are voting to simultaneously punish themselves.

If it weren't for people actively seeking to hurt themselves at the polls republicans would only get maybe one or two percent of the vote...



No, no, no. I'm a black Democrat because I was brainwashed to believe that White Dems will always vote to give me that sweet, sweet, welfare...even though I work for a living and I do not have a need for social services. I guess I like to see other people game the system because they look like me? I don't know. I haven't figured that part out, yet.
 
2012-03-30 11:54:24 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: I don't know. I haven't figured that part out, yet.


You should really pay more attention during the indoctrination meetings. We make sure to have plenty of coffee on hand for our Big Gay Indoctrination Meetings.
 
2012-03-30 11:54:26 AM

Fark It: Wisconsin....swing state

What are you smoking that makes Wisconsin a swing state?


- While the state hasn't gone R in a Presidential election since 1984, it is typically close. For example, Kerry won the state by 4 points in 2004, and Gore won the state by less than 1 point. We have had a R Governor in five of the last seven terms, showing that the Republican brand does have statewide electability, not just a few red pockets here and there.
- Our state assembly consists of 59 R, 39 D, and 1 Ind.
- Our state senate consists of 16R and 16D. There were 17 R until last weekend when Pam Galloway resigned. Last year there were 19R, and 14D until the WI GOP lost its collective mind under the Walker, Fitz, Fitz trifecta and we had to start cleaning house. Also, we ain't done with that yet. Recall election will be on June 5th for Walker (Gov), Kleefisch (Lt. Gov), and three GOP senators. Pam Galloway would have been up as well, had she not resigned.
 
2012-03-30 11:56:40 AM

indylaw: St_Francis_P: More proof that the libs tricked them into doubling down on the misogyny.

We didn't start the fire.


It was only burning since the world was turnin.'

/Now I can't get that song out of my head.
//DAMN YOU!!!
 
2012-03-30 11:57:20 AM
The scariest are the women that have NO PROBLEM with this and defend it. The legislators that suggested "If you want an abortion, you gonna get probed" bill and "If you want an abortion, you gonna watch one with Clockwork Orange style eyewear on" bill WERE WOMEN.

There are probably 50 women on Fark right now that would be offended if you called them a feminist.

It's seriously farked up and I never believed it when people said "You know why women will never reach true equality? Other women."

After the last 2 months, I do.

/Thanks a pantload sisters.
 
2012-03-30 11:58:21 AM

randomjsa: Because running on Obama's record up to this point would be a nice repeat of 2010



Yeah, I'm aware that he-can't-run-on-his-record is the talking point du jour. But what's funny is that I expect that Obama will do exactly that, and succeed.

If this sounds implausible to you, try to remember that the "conservative" caricature of his record isn't the same as his actual record. Examples, 'he doubled gas prices', 'he destroyed jobs', etc.

...they have to make fake issues and hope it gets them enough votes to hold on.

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2012-03-30 11:59:20 AM
Oh, don't lean on me man, 'cause you can't afford the ticket
I'm back from Suffragette City.
 
2012-03-30 11:59:39 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: No, no, no. I'm a black Democrat because I was brainwashed to believe that White Dems will always vote to give me that sweet, sweet, welfare...even though I work for a living and I do not have a need for social services. I guess I like to see other people game the system because they look like me? I don't know. I haven't figured that part out, yet.


To be fair, you do all look the same.

/or am I thinking of samoans?
 
2012-03-30 11:59:47 AM
Rwa2play

/Now I can't get that song out of my head.
//DAMN YOU!!!


As soon as saw that, I had to put on some funk. (new window)

/it is Friday
 
2012-03-30 12:00:20 PM

vernonFL: Women Voters Can't Help Fawning Over Sexist GOP (new window)

Maybe the GOP is going for the 'women like bad boys vote'


Yes, because Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney just ooze alpha male qualities.
 
2012-03-30 12:00:26 PM

sdd2000: Notabunny: fta The Wisconsin numbers come the same week that a Quinnipiac Poll gives Obama leads in the swing states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida -- again, with significant leads among women voters.

Is there a model in which Romney can lose Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida but win the election?

I don't think it is even that many states. If I recall correctly no Republican has won without Ohio. If latest polls are correct , Obama is leading in not only those three swing states but also Va. If you add the probable and likely Blue states with Ohio, Pa. and Va. Obama would have over 270.


I would seriously consider Texas in part if Romney farks up enough during the campaign. So imagine if that were to happen, a lot of the money that (if he were the GOP nominee) Romney could've put towards swing states would then have to be given to Texas *just* for him to keep that state red.

/praying for it
//hoping for it
///strictly for the lulz
 
2012-03-30 12:00:32 PM

Rwa2play: /Now I can't get that song out of my head.
//DAMN YOU!!!


In that case, I feel I've performed a valuable service with my previous post.
 
2012-03-30 12:01:52 PM

Lane83: vernonFL: Women Voters Can't Help Fawning Over Sexist GOP (new window)

Maybe the GOP is going for the 'women like bad boys vote'

Yes, because Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney just ooze alpha male qualities.


Sure they do, if you count the motorcycle guy from the Village People and CPR demo dolls as alpha males.
 
2012-03-30 12:03:23 PM

Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: GAT_00:

And so would I. I'd love an actual liberal party. But since there isn't one, I'm going to pick based on the choices I have, not the ones I'd like to have. Just saying you want another choice doesn't make one appear.

You're demanding I make choices that don't exist and then you're saying I'm the unrealistic one. Step back and think about that.

so you don't believe in the existence of third parties?

Ones with power? No.

So...you won't help a third party until one gets into power. But a third party can't get into power without your help. you'd rather just keep on doing what you've always done and then believe that magically this will somehow produce different results?


You want to make a third party viable? Here's what you do:

1) Come up with a platform that people can agree on
2) Scrape together money
3) Build a power base in smaller elections -- local, county, state
4) Work on getting House representation
5) Hope the big boys make one hell of a mistake
6) Go for the big races.

It seems like every "third party" just wants to go straight from 1 to 6. And that's never going to work. If there had been somebody doing the unglamorous groundwork all this time, maybe there'd be someone waiting to step in since the GOP went full retard, but there isn't.
 
2012-03-30 12:03:42 PM

phaseolus: Yeah, I'm aware that he-can't-run-on-his-record is the talking point du jour. But what's funny is that I expect that Obama will do exactly that, and succeed.


I was hoping for the same, and expected the same result. So far he's not though. Kinda ticks me off. I always thought since the day he was inaugurated, he should run his re-election campaign on "are we better off than we were 4 years ago? Vote for me if yes, vote for the other dude if no."
 
2012-03-30 12:03:51 PM
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/it's not a wedge but it's close enough.
/thank you, Republican idiots. your two-prong brilliant plan of opposing anything the President supported while deeply offending more than 50% of the electorate is working marvelously
 
2012-03-30 12:04:04 PM

SuperTramp: Rwa2play

/Now I can't get that song out of my head.
//DAMN YOU!!!

As soon as saw that, I had to put on some funk. (new window)

/it is Friday


I'm not falling for that.

I have yet to hear Rebecca Black and goddammit I will DIE without hearing that song.
 
2012-03-30 12:04:51 PM

Salt Lick Steady: DROxINxTHExWIND: No, no, no. I'm a black Democrat because I was brainwashed to believe that White Dems will always vote to give me that sweet, sweet, welfare...even though I work for a living and I do not have a need for social services. I guess I like to see other people game the system because they look like me? I don't know. I haven't figured that part out, yet.

To be fair, you do all look the same.


Apparently. The people in our Beirut and Dubai offices all call me Bob Marley because I have dreadlocks...despite the fact that I am a full shade darker and I look nothing like him.
 
2012-03-30 12:05:04 PM

schubie: There are probably 50 women on Fark right now that would be offended if you called them a feminist.


Fifty women on Fark? At the same time? I don't believe it.
 
2012-03-30 12:06:37 PM

DarnoKonrad: Cythraul: Still baffles me how they could think these extreme social conservative measures (specifically against women) are a winning strategy come election time.

Maybe they just don't care, and they're doing what they feel is right, despite the possible loss in the election.


It's clearly not a 'strategy,' it's what they believe.


This. The war on women isn't something the Republican party planned out in order to fire up the base or whatnot. This is who they are. Like a spontaneous outburst of "Yeah!" when asked if an uninsured person should be left to die, like a poorly-written "N***ER" on a protest banner, this is just Republican voters revealing their true selves.
 
2012-03-30 12:07:12 PM

someonelse: schubie: There are probably 50 women on Fark right now that would be offended if you called them a feminist.

Fifty women on Fark? At the same time? I don't believe it.


Try TFD. B*tches love TFD...

/Hell
//One plz
 
2012-03-30 12:07:28 PM

someonelse: schubie: There are probably 50 women on Fark right now that would be offended if you called them a feminist.

Fifty women on Fark? At the same time? I don't believe it.


This is after all, the internet.

/where the men are men, the women are men and the girls are FBI agents.
 
2012-03-30 12:10:29 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: because I have dreadlocks...despite the fact that I am a full shade darker


How YOU doin'?
 
2012-03-30 12:11:02 PM

hubiestubert: Try TFD. B*tches love TFD...


Be sure to make a thread titled "Between school, work, and helping out at the animal shelter, I'm a bit rusty. Where can I find interesting women? Difficulty: not bar skanks."
 
2012-03-30 12:11:29 PM

someonelse: schubie: There are probably 50 women on Fark right now that would be offended if you called them a feminist.

Fifty women on Fark? At the same time? I don't believe it.


They're uppity lesbians. Let 'em go.

/uppity male lesbian alts, that is
 
2012-03-30 12:12:54 PM
schubie: There are probably 50 women on Fark right now that would be offended if you called them a feminist.

and they probably say they love nothing more on a Sunday afternoon than watching football, too.
 
2012-03-30 12:13:02 PM

heinekenftw: SuperTramp: Rwa2play

/Now I can't get that song out of my head.
//DAMN YOU!!!

As soon as saw that, I had to put on some funk. (new window)

/it is Friday

I'm not falling for that.

I have yet to hear Rebecca Black and goddammit I will DIE without hearing that song.


I read "Rebecca Black" as "Roberta Flack" and had to slap myself silly.
 
2012-03-30 12:13:09 PM

Lane83: vernonFL: Women Voters Can't Help Fawning Over Sexist GOP (new window)

Maybe the GOP is going for the 'women like bad boys vote'

Yes, because Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney just ooze alpha male qualities.


Santorum: Oozing for America.
 
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