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(NFL)   NFL owners among big winners in sale of L.A. Dodgers   (nfl.com ) divider line
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2012-03-29 05:05:39 PM  
That's a nice number and all but it would also require a team (aside from the Bills) to be sold in the next 5-10 years.

/Unless the Glazers, Lerners or Clark Hunt get bored and only want their EPL clubs that is.
 
2012-03-29 05:08:57 PM  
Glad us taxpayers could help out!
 
2012-03-29 05:09:44 PM  
Well, this was less stupid than the "Jeremy Lin proves the NFL is great" circlejerk.
 
2012-03-29 05:12:36 PM  
FTFA: Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Forbes "probably undervalued" his team when it estimated the Cowboys' worth at $1.81 billion last year, at the time the highest for an American sports franchise.

Hmmmm.... only one way to really test that, Jerruh
 
2012-03-29 05:19:40 PM  
Again, the bulk of the money the new owners are hoping to squeeze out of the Dodgers is from a TV deal, either w/ someone or creating a new cable channel. In the NFL, you can't negotiate separate TV deals, and you have to split that cash 32 ways. Since the bulk of your money (over half) in the NFL comes from TV money, you could own a team that plays on a practice field w/ no gates and no seats, and they'd still make money b/c you'd get a ton of cash from TV money (and your roster is dirt cheap, b/c you can cut anyone at any time! No guaranteed contracts!) Why would you pay a fortune to bribe do an environmental impact study on a new stadium in LA when you won't make much more than in a place like Jacksonville, Houston, or anywhere else where you can steal public financing? This doesn't change much unless the NFL opens up, stops being super Communist, and lets individual teams/owners sign their own TV deals separately. That's the real reason the Dodgers were worth $2 billion, according to the new owners. God help them if they find out they'd make more money building apartments/condos/shopping in the Ravine and move the team Downtown.
 
2012-03-29 05:21:13 PM  

Di Atribe: FTFA: Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Forbes "probably undervalued" his team when it estimated the Cowboys' worth at $1.81 billion last year, at the time the highest for an American sports franchise.

Hmmmm.... only one way to really test that, Jerruh


Smart!
 
2012-03-29 05:41:14 PM  
Dear sports team owners,

Unlike with mediocre players, if someone overpays for a single franchise the value of other franchises doesn't automatically rise. We shall call this the Michael Redd rule.
 
2012-03-29 05:54:17 PM  
With our brands, with our teams, with our assets, we can't mess up

Yes, you can. I'm at my limit for commercial breaks. One more and I'm outta there.
 
2012-03-29 05:56:14 PM  
Let's not forget the important thing here: how does this affect Tebow?
 
2012-03-29 06:25:43 PM  
And some of the business people happiest about it are owners of the NFL's 32 franchises.

Don't you mean 31?
 
2012-03-29 06:28:28 PM  

Sabyen91: And some of the business people happiest about it are owners of the NFL's 32 franchises.

Don't you mean 31?


Pretty sure the NFL has 32 franchises.

/Know what you're trying to say(Green Bay)
//Just making fun of the way you put it
 
2012-03-29 06:55:21 PM  
"Frank McCourt's sale of the Los Angeles Dodgers for $2.15 billion might just benefit NFL teams."

Thank God, because if there's one group of beleagured victims hard put upon and down on their luck, it's the lumpen proles who own NFL clubs.
 
2012-03-29 06:55:49 PM  
Meanwhile, the average value of a WNBA team increased to $2.25...
 
2012-03-29 07:23:24 PM  

muck4doo: Sabyen91: And some of the business people happiest about it are owners of the NFL's 32 franchises.

Don't you mean 31?

Pretty sure the NFL has 32 franchises.

/Know what you're trying to say(Green Bay)
//Just making fun of the way you put it


Well, the subject of the sentence WAS owners, not franchises.
 
2012-03-29 07:33:47 PM  

Sabyen91: And some of the business people happiest about it are owners of the NFL's 32 franchises.

Don't you mean 31?


I like you, so I'm going to put this gently: people don't really give a fark. Also: we get it already.
 
2012-03-29 07:53:57 PM  

Sabyen91: muck4doo: Sabyen91: And some of the business people happiest about it are owners of the NFL's 32 franchises.

Don't you mean 31?

Pretty sure the NFL has 32 franchises.

/Know what you're trying to say(Green Bay)
//Just making fun of the way you put it

Well, the subject of the sentence WAS owners, not franchises.


Why wouldn't the owners of the Packers, the Green Bay Packers Board of Directors (new window), be happy about the value of their team?
 
2012-03-29 08:58:27 PM  
It's always nice to hear of billionaires making more billions. Sort of warms the heart, thinking about them tucked in bed at night, warm and snug, drifting off to sleep after they've sipped a bottle of $1000 wine.

It just, I don't know, makes everything seem right in the world.
 
2012-03-29 09:47:32 PM  
The Packers can't be sold so its moot. The board of directors only cares about revenue.

-packers owner
 
2012-03-29 10:08:00 PM  
There are very few teams that Dodgers deal effects. Basically the top five markets in each of the four major sports make a jump. What it means in the long run is that, eventually, MLB will be a two tier sport with the top 10-12 markets in one league and everybody else in the other. It will resemble soccer in Europe with a few teams joining the big boys for a few years then trailing back to the second division.

Baseball in fifty years

MLB Elite Division

Eastern Conference
Toronto Blue Jays
New York Yankees
New York Mets
Boston Red Sox
Philadelphia Phillies
Miami Marlins
Second Florida team that replaces Tampa

Western Conference
Minnesota Twins
Chicago Cubs
Chicago White Sox
Saint Louis Cardinals
Denver Rockies
Los Angeles Dodgers
Los Angeles Angels


MLB Tradition division

Eastern Conference

Washington Nationals
Pittsburgh Pirates
Atlanta Braves
Detroit Tigers
Cleveland Indians
Cincinnati Reds
Kansas City Royals

Western Conference

Milwaukee Brewers
Arizona Diamondbacks
San Jose Athletics
San Francisco Giants
Seattle Mariners
Texas Rangers
Houston Astros
 
2012-03-29 10:45:35 PM  

Krieghund: Sabyen91: muck4doo: Sabyen91: And some of the business people happiest about it are owners of the NFL's 32 franchises.

Don't you mean 31?

Pretty sure the NFL has 32 franchises.

/Know what you're trying to say(Green Bay)
//Just making fun of the way you put it

Well, the subject of the sentence WAS owners, not franchises.

Why wouldn't the owners of the Packers, the Green Bay Packers Board of Directors (new window), be happy about the value of their team?


Because they aren't going anywhere? Then again, I should have said "don't you mean 7?"
 
2012-03-29 10:46:55 PM  

Di Atribe: Sabyen91: And some of the business people happiest about it are owners of the NFL's 32 franchises.

Don't you mean 31?

I like you, so I'm going to put this gently: people don't really give a fark. Also: we get it already.


I thought it was a valid point.

/Also, I don't think Jerry Jones cares. He isn't selling.
//Haha! Your team is owned by Jerry Jones!
 
2012-03-29 10:48:21 PM  

remotecody: The Packers can't be sold so its moot. The board of directors only cares about revenue.

-packers owner


That was my point but people don't give a fark and they got it already.

/Sorry Di.
 
2012-03-29 11:26:20 PM  

Sabyen91: muck4doo: Sabyen91: And some of the business people happiest about it are owners of the NFL's 32 franchises.

Don't you mean 31?

Pretty sure the NFL has 32 franchises.

/Know what you're trying to say(Green Bay)
//Just making fun of the way you put it

Well, the subject of the sentence WAS owners, not franchises.


Don't use past tense. The subject of the adjective is "franchises". ;P

/Not a grammar Nazi, but figured I'd try it out. :)
 
2012-03-29 11:42:54 PM  

Sabyen91: I thought it was a valid point.


What was your point? That the Packers organization isn't happy about this, but the other teams are? I mean, if the worth of the franchise goes up, won't the worth of the stocks go up? Or do they just make more stocks so more people can frame their certificate and tell everyone who walks past it that they're a team owner?


Sabyen91: //Haha! Your team is owned by Jerry Jones!


I like you, so I'll put this gently: bite me!
 
2012-03-30 01:57:36 AM  

Trocadero: This doesn't change much unless the NFL opens up, stops being super Communist, and lets individual teams/owners sign their own TV deals separately.


Yes, because clearly the NFL needs to be more like MLB.
 
2012-03-30 09:40:21 AM  

Delawheredad: There are very few teams that Dodgers deal effects. Basically the top five markets in each of the four major sports make a jump. What it means in the long run is that, eventually, MLB will be a two tier sport with the top 10-12 markets in one league and everybody else in the other. It will resemble soccer in Europe with a few teams joining the big boys for a few years then trailing back to the second division.

Baseball in fifty years

MLB Elite Division

Eastern Conference
Toronto Blue Jays
New York Yankees
New York Mets
Boston Red Sox
Philadelphia Phillies
Miami Marlins
Second Florida team that replaces Tampa

Western Conference
Minnesota Twins
Chicago Cubs
Chicago White Sox
Saint Louis Cardinals
Denver Rockies
Los Angeles Dodgers
Los Angeles Angels


MLB Tradition division

Eastern Conference

Washington Nationals
Pittsburgh Pirates
Atlanta Braves
Detroit Tigers
Cleveland Indians
Cincinnati Reds
Kansas City Royals

Western Conference

Milwaukee Brewers
Arizona Diamondbacks
San Jose Athletics
San Francisco Giants
Seattle Mariners
Texas Rangers
Houston Astros


The MLB owner who has to be licking his chops is Peter Angelos in Baltimore.

The franchise has sucked for the last 15 years, but rumor has it Cal Ripken is interested in owning or working for the Orioles after his son graduates from high school.

The news of the Dodgers selling for $2.1b has to make him cream in his asbestos lined pants.
 
2012-03-30 10:19:18 AM  
NHL franchises still available for a bag of pucks and a half eaten sandwich, as long as you promise not to move it to Canada....
 
2012-03-30 10:42:57 AM  
Comment is abusive and has been removed
 
2012-03-30 02:20:35 PM  

Trocadero: Again, the bulk of the money the new owners are hoping to squeeze out of the Dodgers is from a TV deal, either w/ someone or creating a new cable channel. In the NFL, you can't negotiate separate TV deals, and you have to split that cash 32 ways. Since the bulk of your money (over half) in the NFL comes from TV money, you could own a team that plays on a practice field w/ no gates and no seats, and they'd still make money b/c you'd get a ton of cash from TV money (and your roster is dirt cheap, b/c you can cut anyone at any time! No guaranteed contracts!) Why would you pay a fortune to bribe do an environmental impact study on a new stadium in LA when you won't make much more than in a place like Jacksonville, Houston, or anywhere else where you can steal public financing? This doesn't change much unless the NFL opens up, stops being super Communist, and lets individual teams/owners sign their own TV deals separately. That's the real reason the Dodgers were worth $2 billion, according to the new owners. God help them if they find out they'd make more money building apartments/condos/shopping in the Ravine and move the team Downtown.


Except that it's not true. The TV revenues are basically eaten up by players salaries. They split the gate 60%-40% for home and away games and the concessions, parking, stadium signage and luxury box rentals (not the tickets) go 100% to the team owner. Where they make their money is from the stadium. If you are Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder and completely control the stadium, you get a shiatload of money. If you are Ralph Wilson, you can sell out every game and make about $3.50. I bet Jerry makes more from the tractor pulls and car shows than Ralph Wilson has made owning the Bills from 1960 until today.
 
2012-03-30 03:56:09 PM  

Delawheredad: There are very few teams that Dodgers deal effects. Basically the top five markets in each of the four major sports make a jump. What it means in the long run is that, eventually, MLB will be a two tier sport with the top 10-12 markets in one league and everybody else in the other. It will resemble soccer in Europe with a few teams joining the big boys for a few years then trailing back to the second division.

Baseball in fifty years

MLB Elite Division

Eastern Conference
Toronto Blue Jays
New York Yankees
New York Mets
Boston Red Sox
Philadelphia Phillies
Miami Marlins
Second Florida team that replaces Tampa

Western Conference
Minnesota Twins
Chicago Cubs
Chicago White Sox
Saint Louis Cardinals
Denver Rockies
Los Angeles Dodgers
Los Angeles Angels


MLB Tradition division

Eastern Conference

Washington Nationals
Pittsburgh Pirates
Atlanta Braves
Detroit Tigers
Cleveland Indians
Cincinnati Reds
Kansas City Royals

Western Conference

Milwaukee Brewers
Arizona Diamondbacks
San Jose Athletics
San Francisco Giants
Seattle Mariners
Texas Rangers
Houston Astros


Other than the fact that the Giants are by far the dominant team in the Bay Area, which is a significantly larger metro area than that of St Louis, Minn-St Paul, Denver or anywhere in Florida except Miami metro. Dallas and Houston are also larger markets than all but NY, LA, and Chicago.
 
2012-03-30 04:41:54 PM  

Delawheredad: There are very few teams that Dodgers deal effects. Basically the top five markets in each of the four major sports make a jump. What it means in the long run is that, eventually, MLB will be a two tier sport with the top 10-12 markets in one league and everybody else in the other. It will resemble soccer in Europe with a few teams joining the big boys for a few years then trailing back to the second division.

Baseball in fifty years

MLB Elite Division

Eastern Conference
Toronto Blue Jays
New York Yankees
New York Mets
Boston Red Sox
Philadelphia Phillies
Miami Marlins
Second Florida team that replaces Tampa

Western Conference
Minnesota Twins
Chicago Cubs
Chicago White Sox
Saint Louis Cardinals
Denver Rockies
Los Angeles Dodgers
Los Angeles Angels


MLB Tradition division

Eastern Conference

Washington Nationals
Pittsburgh Pirates
Atlanta Braves
Detroit Tigers
Cleveland Indians
Cincinnati Reds
Kansas City Royals

Western Conference

Milwaukee Brewers
Arizona Diamondbacks
San Jose Athletics
San Francisco Giants
Seattle Mariners
Texas Rangers
Houston Astros


Interesting premise, but how you arrived at the teams comprising each division makes very little sense. You seem to be a wee bit out of touch with the size of media markets these days.

The Mets, Marlins, Twins, Cubs, & Rockies in the "Elite" division? That, sir, is laughable.
 
2012-03-30 08:05:41 PM  

Krieghund: Sabyen91: muck4doo: Sabyen91: And some of the business people happiest about it are owners of the NFL's 32 franchises.

Don't you mean 31?

Pretty sure the NFL has 32 franchises.

/Know what you're trying to say(Green Bay)
//Just making fun of the way you put it

Well, the subject of the sentence WAS owners, not franchises.

Why wouldn't the owners of the Packers, the Green Bay Packers Board of Directors (new window), be happy about the value of their team?


Because of the Packers were sold none of those BoG members would be able to make any money off of the team. All the the profits would be donated to their Foundation.
 
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