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(ABC)   George Zimmerman on video after the shooting. Funny, those massive head injuries seem to have healed fast, and where's all the blood that should have stained his shirt from shooting someone who was on top of him?   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 1167
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2012-03-29 10:02:29 AM  

Dog Welder: 9beers: ChuDogg: George Zimmerman HAS NO FACE. TREYVON LITERALLY BEAT HIS FACE OFF!

By the way, Zimmerman's account is that Martin punched him one time, in the nose, which sent Zimmerman to the ground. Stop acting as if people are claiming that Martin was pounding his face into mush.

Zimmerman's father says Martin was pounding Zimmerman's face into mush and that Zimmerman was being beaten for a minute or so:

Link (new window)


The Magistrate says a lot of things. I can't believe he actually came out and said that Martin said, 'you're going to die now!' and that when martin was shot, martin said 'you got me!'..... in a tv interview.......... but he didn't want to show his own face while he made these claims about Martin as if they were the absolute truth and he was a witness!!!!!

I think I know why The Magistrate did it, and it makes me furious, as well as fearful about how many LEO-loving wannabes are out there willing to do exactly this kind of thing because they know that it will be replayed as fact from now until eternity.
 
2012-03-29 10:03:18 AM  
That head was supposedly slammed into the sidewalk? Fine police work.
 
2012-03-29 10:06:51 AM  

eraser8: dittybopper: No. Legally, as soon as you are no longer free to leave, you are under arrest. You may be arrested, and then let go without being charged, which is what happened to Zimmerman.

No. There's actually a HUGE amount of case law on this. The four elements are (I'm simplifying things, a bit): 1) authority to arrest 2) actual or constructive seizure or detention 3) communication by the arresting agent to the subject of the arrest and 4) a recognition by the subject that he is under arrest.

I'm not confusing arrest with a Terry stop. A Terry stop merely requires reasonable suspicion. An arrest requires probable cause.


Every single one of those things would have applied in this case:

1. Police officer has authority to arrest Zimmerman.
2. Zimmerman was actually detained.
3. The arresting officer communicated with Zimmerman that he was being detained.
4. Zimmerman would have recognized that he was actually detained, the handcuffs being a major farkin' clue.

Now, try to tell me how those elements don't apply in this case. This isn't an edge case, where a cop stopped someone, and it was ambiguous as to whether the subject was under arrest. Zimmerman was under arrest.

Hell, just look at the police report on the incident. You see stuff like "Upon arrival Ofc.T.Smith had a white male, later identified as George Zimmerman, in custody" and "Zimmerman complied with all of my verbal commands and was secured in handcuffs ... "

Those two sentences alone satisfy every single one of those 4 conditions you stated.
 
2012-03-29 10:08:49 AM  
Police leaked Zimmerman's version of the Feb. 26 shooting in Sanford, Fla., saying Zimmerman fired only after the 17-year-old decked him with a single punch, repeatedly smashed his head on the ground and tried to grab his gun.


Police say Zimmerman told them he shot Martin on Feb. 26 in self-defense after the 6-foot high school junior punched him, got on top of him and began banging his head into a sidewalk.


*watches video*

One of these things isn't quite the same...
 
2012-03-29 10:08:57 AM  

tirob: ChuDogg: [img715.imageshack.us image 640x399]

More detail here (new window)

[recites evidence]


In fact, all evidence appears to show he is innocent.

Were you on the scene just after the shooting? Did you interview Zimmerman? Funny how the lead detective in this case, Chris Serino, who was, and who did, came to the opposite conclusion.

That said, I don't think this video is probative of very much. We have no record as of yet, of what, if anything, the EMTs who attended to Zimmerman did, or saw, between the time police arrived on the scene of the shooting and the time this video was made.


Well the problem is if Serino decided he didn't want to charge Zimmerman there would be a different group of people second guessing him.

You can't please all of the people all of the time.
 
2012-03-29 10:12:24 AM  
media.moronail.net
 
2012-03-29 10:16:34 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Dog Welder: 9beers: ChuDogg: George Zimmerman HAS NO FACE. TREYVON LITERALLY BEAT HIS FACE OFF!

By the way, Zimmerman's account is that Martin punched him one time, in the nose, which sent Zimmerman to the ground. Stop acting as if people are claiming that Martin was pounding his face into mush.

Zimmerman's father says Martin was pounding Zimmerman's face into mush and that Zimmerman was being beaten for a minute or so:

Link (new window)

The Magistrate says a lot of things. I can't believe he actually came out and said that Martin said, 'you're going to die now!' and that when martin was shot, martin said 'you got me!'..... in a tv interview.......... but he didn't want to show his own face while he made these claims about Martin as if they were the absolute truth and he was a witness!!!!!

I think I know why The Magistrate did it, and it makes me furious, as well as fearful about how many LEO-loving wannabes are out there willing to do exactly this kind of thing because they know that it will be replayed as fact from now until eternity.


I honestly don't know what to think about this case, and I really don't know where it's going to end up, mostly because it's impossible to tell what's truth and what isn't. But what I do know is that Zimmerman's story seems to have some holes in it.
 
2012-03-29 10:17:42 AM  

Giltric: tirob: ChuDogg: [img715.imageshack.us image 640x399]

More detail here (new window)

[recites evidence]


In fact, all evidence appears to show he is innocent.

Were you on the scene just after the shooting? Did you interview Zimmerman? Funny how the lead detective in this case, Chris Serino, who was, and who did, came to the opposite conclusion.

That said, I don't think this video is probative of very much. We have no record as of yet, of what, if anything, the EMTs who attended to Zimmerman did, or saw, between the time police arrived on the scene of the shooting and the time this video was made.

Well the problem is if Serino decided he didn't want to charge Zimmerman there would be a different group of people second guessing him.

You can't please all of the people all of the time.


No, but only one people wants to riot and burn down entire cities and steal sneakers. Officials usually like to placate them. The other people just are quite and pay taxes. Don't lose anything by not pleasing them.

Any sort of riot pool where you can bet on monetary damages, number of deaths, tonnage of loot? I think 2 billion, 7, and 157 tons.
 
2012-03-29 10:18:37 AM  

stebain: rufus-t-firefly: I love how they use that scrawny picture - kind of defeats the "Zimmerman was overpowered and in imminent danger" argument. That bird-chested kid ain't kicking anyone's ass.

it also shows that Zimmerman wasn't some fat Jabba comically running after Martin while the opening theme to What's Happenin' plays in the background.

Frankly, the video shows him to be in rather good shape. Athlete or not, I find it LESS likely to believe that Zimmerman couldn't counter some of the moves on a 140 pound kid.


Well, certainly not morbidly obese, as I was led to believe by the news media.

So say he is 5'9" and 200 lbs (roughly my size). That doesn't mean he is necessarily in shape: I'm certainly not. Yeah, I can run a little bit better than I could back when I weighed 270. In fact, a lot better. But I'm not an athlete, and I'm certainly no stronger than I was before I lost the weight. In fact, I may be somewhat weaker: I carried a 40 lb bag of sand the other day, and I was thinking to myself "Man, how did I manage to carry one and a half times this much extra weight?".

Now, if happen to get into a fight with someone who is 5 inches taller than me, 10 years younger, and in *MUCH* better physical shape, I'm going to likely lose. It's not certain, of course, but it is likely that I'm going to get the worst of it. And if I happen to be carrying a gun and the other person notices it and tries to get it, at that point who is in better shape is irrelevant: They are going for a weapon. All argument about who could beat up who doesn't matter anymore.

/Doesn't actually carry.
//Or even own a handgun.
 
2012-03-29 10:19:38 AM  

s2s2s2: At least they stay on topic, troll.


You calling someone else a troll threatens to create a recursive loop that will cause the universe to swallow itself like an ouroboros.
 
2012-03-29 10:21:38 AM  

9beers: Yes, black teens ransacking a local business in the name of Treyvon Martin isn't a news story at all.


Hate to break it to you dude, but around here, black teens ransack local businesses in the name of being bored on a tuesday afternoon also. It probably doesn't mean that much about the Treyvon case.
 
2012-03-29 10:21:39 AM  

dittybopper: Every single one of those things would have applied in this case


Just because you're detained does not mean you're under arrest.

Even if you're placed in handcuffs.

For example, if ox45tallboy didn't like what happened to him, he couldn't sue for false arrest...at least not according to the facts he provided.

Until you are formally informed that you're under arrest, you are not under arrest. You can actually demand to be released, you can demand the handcuffs be removed...at which point the police have a choice to make: they have to arrest you or let you go or break the law. Without arrest, the police can detain you only briefly. And, they have to have a damn good reason for doing so.
 
2012-03-29 10:22:39 AM  

dittybopper: stebain: rufus-t-firefly: I love how they use that scrawny picture - kind of defeats the "Zimmerman was overpowered and in imminent danger" argument. That bird-chested kid ain't kicking anyone's ass.

it also shows that Zimmerman wasn't some fat Jabba comically running after Martin while the opening theme to What's Happenin' plays in the background.

Frankly, the video shows him to be in rather good shape. Athlete or not, I find it LESS likely to believe that Zimmerman couldn't counter some of the moves on a 140 pound kid.

Well, certainly not morbidly obese, as I was led to believe by the news media.

So say he is 5'9" and 200 lbs (roughly my size). That doesn't mean he is necessarily in shape: I'm certainly not. Yeah, I can run a little bit better than I could back when I weighed 270. In fact, a lot better. But I'm not an athlete, and I'm certainly no stronger than I was before I lost the weight. In fact, I may be somewhat weaker: I carried a 40 lb bag of sand the other day, and I was thinking to myself "Man, how did I manage to carry one and a half times this much extra weight?".

Now, if happen to get into a fight with someone who is 5 inches taller than me, 10 years younger, and in *MUCH* better physical shape, I'm going to likely lose. It's not certain, of course, but it is likely that I'm going to get the worst of it. And if I happen to be carrying a gun and the other person notices it and tries to get it, at that point who is in better shape is irrelevant: They are going for a weapon. All argument about who could beat up who doesn't matter anymore.

/Doesn't actually carry.
//Or even own a handgun.


One punch to the nose pretty much ends a fight, no matter who weighs what. The disorientation, blurred vision, and general shock of it can put you out of the fight instantly. The left is just grasping here, nothing else. Weight helps if you are wrastlin, does nothing to protect you from a blow to the face.

Mr. T as B.A.? Sorry folks, he can't get punched in the face over and over and just shrug it off because he is a big dude. Doesn't work like that.
 
2012-03-29 10:27:21 AM  
Lets just continue ignoring the fact that an officer can be seen clearly examining the back of Zimmerman's head at 51 seconds into the video. Nope nothing to see here, move along.
 
2012-03-29 10:29:33 AM  

GAT_00: DeltaPunch: Zimmerman also had domestic violence charges back in 2006, including fighting with a policeman.

But you know, Trayvon got suspended from school once, plus he was wearing a hoodie so he clearly deserved to be shot... can we PLEASE just move on folks?!?

We can move on when he's charged with murder. Plus the GOP is actually supporting Zimmerman for murdering the kid. In every way, this needs to be an issue.


Cite please.
 
2012-03-29 10:29:42 AM  

dittybopper: Now, if happen to get into a fight with someone who is 5 inches taller than me, 10 years younger, and in *MUCH* better physical shape, I'm going to likely lose. It's not certain, of course, but it is likely that I'm going to get the worst of it.


I weigh around 200 lbs with a pretty large frame (broad shoulders). I look a kind of pudgy. If a guy who is 6'3" and weighs 200 pounds, he'll look about right with a similar build. This kid was 140 pounds. A 6'3" guy who is 140 pounds is a rail.
 
2012-03-29 10:29:52 AM  

dittybopper: stebain: rufus-t-firefly: I love how they use that scrawny picture - kind of defeats the "Zimmerman was overpowered and in imminent danger" argument. That bird-chested kid ain't kicking anyone's ass.

it also shows that Zimmerman wasn't some fat Jabba comically running after Martin while the opening theme to What's Happenin' plays in the background.

Frankly, the video shows him to be in rather good shape. Athlete or not, I find it LESS likely to believe that Zimmerman couldn't counter some of the moves on a 140 pound kid.

Well, certainly not morbidly obese, as I was led to believe by the news media.

So say he is 5'9" and 200 lbs (roughly my size). That doesn't mean he is necessarily in shape: I'm certainly not. Yeah, I can run a little bit better than I could back when I weighed 270. In fact, a lot better. But I'm not an athlete, and I'm certainly no stronger than I was before I lost the weight. In fact, I may be somewhat weaker: I carried a 40 lb bag of sand the other day, and I was thinking to myself "Man, how did I manage to carry one and a half times this much extra weight?".

Now, if happen to get into a fight with someone who is 5 inches taller than me, 10 years younger, and in *MUCH* better physical shape, I'm going to likely lose. It's not certain, of course, but it is likely that I'm going to get the worst of it. And if I happen to be carrying a gun and the other person notices it and tries to get it, at that point who is in better shape is irrelevant: They are going for a weapon. All argument about who could beat up who doesn't matter anymore.

/Doesn't actually carry.
//Or even own a handgun.


But if they don't have the weapon, and you do, you don't get to shoot them merely because they went for it - YOU are now in control.

Half of the argument against Zimmerman chasing Trayvon was "He's too fat; that kid could easily lose him." It was a joke that Zimmerman would be perceived as a threat to Trayvon.

Watch the video of him at the police station again (preferably the YouTube version, since the ABC logo isn't in the way). He appears to have defined pectoral muscles. It's understandable if Trayvon felt threatened by the guy following him and finally decided to confront him, or at least stop running.
 
2012-03-29 10:31:15 AM  

PainInTheASP: Don't the police typically wear latex gloves when there's a danger that they will come into contact with blood and other body fluids in the course of their job?


That, and passing the time on a boring shift by fingering each other's asshole.
 
2012-03-29 10:35:54 AM  
"The Blaze" says a cop brushed something off Zimmerman - something that could be blood.

I have gotten blood on my clothes before, and brushing it off doesn't work - even after it dries.
 
2012-03-29 10:36:31 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: I have gotten blood on my clothes before, and brushing it off doesn't work - even after it dries.


Well that settles it!
 
2012-03-29 10:39:38 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: I have gotten blood on my clothes before, and brushing it off doesn't work - even after it dries.


I once shot a black guy for his Skittles and Arizona iced tea and that's exactly what happens.
 
2012-03-29 10:39:45 AM  

dittybopper: stebain:
Frankly, the video shows him to be in rather good shape. Athlete or not, I find it LESS likely to believe that Zimmerman couldn't counter some of the moves on a 140 pound kid.

Well, certainly not morbidly obese, as I was led to believe by the news media.


This actually brings up another thought: How can we trust what the media is telling us?

We got shown two pictures, one of Zimmerman from like 5 years ago back when he was much heavier, and one of Martin back when he was much younger (and shorter).

Those images weren't informative in the least. In fact, they were misleading. I'd even go so far as to say they might have been deliberately misleading. Somebody picked that picture of Martin for release, probably the family, and I'm betting they chose one that made him look as innocent as possible. I doubt anyone released the picture of Zimmerman, the media just probably got it from his arrest record, which is publicly available.

We've seen lots of misleading information being reported. Yet when every new 'revelation' comes out, we lap it up.

WHY THE FARK DO WE TRUST THE MEDIA?

It's not just this kind of stuff, either: Ever read a newspaper article or seen a TV news report on something that you had detailed knowledge about, and the media got some important detail wrong? Yet when they report on something that we don't know about, we somehow selectively forget that they've been wrong all those other times. Why?
 
2012-03-29 10:39:48 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: 9beers: Yes, black teens ransacking a local business in the name of Treyvon Martin isn't a news story at all.

Hate to break it to you dude, but around here, black teens ransack local businesses in the name of being bored on a tuesday afternoon also. It probably doesn't mean that much about the Treyvon case.


But this is obviously proof that Treyvon Martin deserved to get shot and should be treated as a hero in Sanford like 9Beers suggests.
 
2012-03-29 10:42:05 AM  

dittybopper: WHY THE FARK DO WE TRUST THE MEDIA?


Same reason we trust the rich. "We want to be rich."
With the media, it comes down to "We want to be famous".
 
2012-03-29 10:42:11 AM  

Mrtraveler01: ThrobblefootSpectre: 9beers: Yes, black teens ransacking a local business in the name of Treyvon Martin isn't a news story at all.

Hate to break it to you dude, but around here, black teens ransack local businesses in the name of being bored on a tuesday afternoon also. It probably doesn't mean that much about the Treyvon case.

But this is obviously proof that Treyvon Martin deserved to get shot and Zimmerman should be treated as a hero in Sanford like 9Beers suggests.


FTFM
 
2012-03-29 10:42:12 AM  

dittybopper: We got shown two pictures, one of Zimmerman from like 5 years ago back when he was much heavier, and one of Martin back when he was much younger (and shorter).

Those images weren't informative in the least. In fact, they were misleading. I'd even go so far as to say they might have been deliberately misleading. Somebody picked that picture of Martin for release, probably the family, and I'm betting they chose one that made him look as innocent as possible. I doubt anyone released the picture of Zimmerman, the media just probably got it from his arrest record, which is publicly available.


Wait, wait - did the media get the fat picture from five years ago, or did they get it from his arrest in late February?
 
2012-03-29 10:52:17 AM  

indylaw: Wait, wait - did the media get the fat picture from five years ago, or did they get it from his arrest in late February?


5 years ago when he was arrested for assaulting a police officer.
 
2012-03-29 10:57:07 AM  
I know I'm late to ask this, but didn't eyewitnesses say there was a guy wearing red on top of another guy?

Isn't Zimmerman wearing a red jacket in this video?

/I know, I know, the cops let him change his clothes.
//Plus his dad was a judge.
 
2012-03-29 11:00:10 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: his dad was a judge


I heard he owned a dealership.
content7.flixster.com
 
2012-03-29 11:03:40 AM  

ox45tallboy: tirob:

I had a jackass swear out a warrant on me for something I didn't do once. I turned myself in to the police station, they took me to the back, booked me, and released me. No handcuffs.

In one instance, I was handcuffed, but not arrested. In the second, I was arrested, but not handcuffed.

Oddly enough, the term "arrested" takes on a different meaning when you resist a cop attempting to detain you - you're suddenly "resisting arrest".

But, like I said, ask a LEO. If you're arrested, you're booked. The handcuffs are policy in some departments, whether or not the individual is actually "under arrest".

FWIW, I think that in either case your Miranda rights would apply.

Neither case would Miranda apply. It applies only to being questioned. I've never had my Miranda rights read to me, but then again I've never been "questioned" related to a crime.


Yes. I meant to imply, "if the cops start to question you," and I now see that I should have added that clause to the end of my sentence.
 
2012-03-29 11:05:35 AM  

Giltric: tirob: ChuDogg: [img715.imageshack.us image 640x399]

More detail here (new window)

[recites evidence]


In fact, all evidence appears to show he is innocent.

Were you on the scene just after the shooting? Did you interview Zimmerman? Funny how the lead detective in this case, Chris Serino, who was, and who did, came to the opposite conclusion.

That said, I don't think this video is probative of very much. We have no record as of yet, of what, if anything, the EMTs who attended to Zimmerman did, or saw, between the time police arrived on the scene of the shooting and the time this video was made.

Well the problem is if Serino decided he didn't want to charge Zimmerman there would be a different group of people second guessing him.

You can't please all of the people all of the time.


According to the ABC News story I read, the decison not to charge Zimmerman was made by the local prosecutor, not Serino.
 
2012-03-29 11:09:51 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: I know I'm late to ask this, but didn't eyewitnesses say there was a guy wearing red on top of another guy?

Isn't Zimmerman wearing a red jacket in this video?

/I know, I know, the cops let him change his clothes.
//Plus his dad was a judge.


It's only red because it's soaked in his own blood from his broken nose and horrible head injuries.

/duh
 
2012-03-29 11:09:57 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Watch the video of him at the police station again (preferably the YouTube version, since the ABC logo isn't in the way). He appears to have defined pectoral muscles.


I appear to have defined pectoral muscles. In reality, they are proto-manboobs, and I'm about the same height and weight as Zimmerman.
 
2012-03-29 11:13:32 AM  
I don't care if his nose was disconnected from his body. I can't tell, and I don't care.

He stalked and menaced a guy for no legitimate reason, acting like some authority figure - which he wasn't.

He acted like a tough guy, and then took a life when someone defended themselves from an obvious menace.

Unless that young man's finger prints are on his gun, he should be charged with murder.
 
2012-03-29 11:14:59 AM  

dittybopper: rufus-t-firefly: Watch the video of him at the police station again (preferably the YouTube version, since the ABC logo isn't in the way). He appears to have defined pectoral muscles.

I appear to have defined pectoral muscles. In reality, they are proto-manboobs, and I'm about the same height and weight as Zimmerman.


If they jiggle, then you have a point. But, I can't speak for you...Zimmerman just looks...thuggish.

Dun dun DUNNNNNN.
 
2012-03-29 11:15:56 AM  

indylaw: dittybopper: We got shown two pictures, one of Zimmerman from like 5 years ago back when he was much heavier, and one of Martin back when he was much younger (and shorter).

Those images weren't informative in the least. In fact, they were misleading. I'd even go so far as to say they might have been deliberately misleading. Somebody picked that picture of Martin for release, probably the family, and I'm betting they chose one that made him look as innocent as possible. I doubt anyone released the picture of Zimmerman, the media just probably got it from his arrest record, which is publicly available.

Wait, wait - did the media get the fat picture from five years ago, or did they get it from his arrest in late February?


They got it from his arrest when he was fighting a police officer who was trying to arrest his friend, 5 years ago.
 
2012-03-29 11:17:47 AM  

Zalan: indylaw: dittybopper: We got shown two pictures, one of Zimmerman from like 5 years ago back when he was much heavier, and one of Martin back when he was much younger (and shorter).

Those images weren't informative in the least. In fact, they were misleading. I'd even go so far as to say they might have been deliberately misleading. Somebody picked that picture of Martin for release, probably the family, and I'm betting they chose one that made him look as innocent as possible. I doubt anyone released the picture of Zimmerman, the media just probably got it from his arrest record, which is publicly available.

Wait, wait - did the media get the fat picture from five years ago, or did they get it from his arrest in late February?

They got it from his arrest when he was fighting a police officer who was trying to arrest his friend, 5 years ago.


Must be nice to be a judge's kid... anyone else would have rotted in jail, and we'd hear about felon George Zimmerman.
 
2012-03-29 11:18:03 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Zimmerman just looks


...like this guy
img2-2.timeinc.net
 
2012-03-29 11:23:56 AM  

Zalan: indylaw: dittybopper: We got shown two pictures, one of Zimmerman from like 5 years ago back when he was much heavier, and one of Martin back when he was much younger (and shorter).

Those images weren't informative in the least. In fact, they were misleading. I'd even go so far as to say they might have been deliberately misleading. Somebody picked that picture of Martin for release, probably the family, and I'm betting they chose one that made him look as innocent as possible. I doubt anyone released the picture of Zimmerman, the media just probably got it from his arrest record, which is publicly available.

Wait, wait - did the media get the fat picture from five years ago, or did they get it from his arrest in late February?

They got it from his arrest when he was fighting a police officer who was trying to arrest his friend, 5 years ago.


Wait, Fark is now siding with police? What the hell is happening here? Normally "fighting a police officer" and being charged, but then charges dropped means an officer was being a dick. Now, it means the perp is a violent cop beater? Hehe. And yet, you are totally against the police for not bringing immediate charges against Zimmerman. They obviously were wrong there, but right about the assault arrest.

This incident has completely changed this place. Are cops good, or bad now?
 
2012-03-29 11:24:34 AM  
So.... we still don't know. This "could" be a pretty nasty gash. It's also a crappy grainy, low-res security cam, so this won't even hold up in court. It proves nothing. However, if this was just a couple of weeks ago - there's still a scar, right?

dailycaller.com
 
2012-03-29 11:24:39 AM  

Fade2black: Funny, 2 black kids in Ohio killed a white kid on Saturday, and we're still in this liberal biatch-fest about a mexican killing a black kid.,


Is there a chance they won't be charged?
 
2012-03-29 11:27:54 AM  

indylaw: Zalan: indylaw: dittybopper: We got shown two pictures, one of Zimmerman from like 5 years ago back when he was much heavier, and one of Martin back when he was much younger (and shorter).

Those images weren't informative in the least. In fact, they were misleading. I'd even go so far as to say they might have been deliberately misleading. Somebody picked that picture of Martin for release, probably the family, and I'm betting they chose one that made him look as innocent as possible. I doubt anyone released the picture of Zimmerman, the media just probably got it from his arrest record, which is publicly available.

Wait, wait - did the media get the fat picture from five years ago, or did they get it from his arrest in late February?

They got it from his arrest when he was fighting a police officer who was trying to arrest his friend, 5 years ago.

Must be nice to be a judge's kid... anyone else would have rotted in jail, and we'd hear about felon George Zimmerman.


He also assaulted his girlfriend in 2007 and got away scott free too.

He also loved to call the police when he saw black people, http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/327330-george-zimmerrman-911-ca ll-history.html Sanford PD released 47 page log of his calls, and Orlando Sentinel had 6 of his previous calls up online, 4 of them were reporting black people around his neighborhood, not doing anything except walking around, or waiting outside of the gate in their car.
 
2012-03-29 11:29:43 AM  

Thunderpipes: Zalan: indylaw: dittybopper: We got shown two pictures, one of Zimmerman from like 5 years ago back when he was much heavier, and one of Martin back when he was much younger (and shorter).

Those images weren't informative in the least. In fact, they were misleading. I'd even go so far as to say they might have been deliberately misleading. Somebody picked that picture of Martin for release, probably the family, and I'm betting they chose one that made him look as innocent as possible. I doubt anyone released the picture of Zimmerman, the media just probably got it from his arrest record, which is publicly available.

Wait, wait - did the media get the fat picture from five years ago, or did they get it from his arrest in late February?

They got it from his arrest when he was fighting a police officer who was trying to arrest his friend, 5 years ago.

Wait, Fark is now siding with police? What the hell is happening here? Normally "fighting a police officer" and being charged, but then charges dropped means an officer was being a dick. Now, it means the perp is a violent cop beater? Hehe. And yet, you are totally against the police for not bringing immediate charges against Zimmerman. They obviously were wrong there, but right about the assault arrest.

This incident has completely changed this place. Are cops good, or bad now?


He was arrested, but instead of going to trial, he went to pre-trial diversion and got to keep his concealed carry permit.

Not all cops are bad, unlike how all blacks are bad in your worldview.
 
2012-03-29 11:29:47 AM  
Also, I think this is new today... a 2nd twitter account? Doesn't prove this kid was anything other than a somewhat misguided teen. Doesn't prove anything at all, but the photos just throw fuel on the fire of this mess....

cdn2.dailycaller.com

Trayvon says "Plzz shoot da #mf dat lied 2 u!".

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/second-trayvon-martin-twitter-feed- i dentified/

Again, can we let the facts play out and THEN prosecute someone if need-be? I am leaning to this being an "unjustified" murder, but be patient folks - let the facts come out.
 
2012-03-29 11:30:14 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: dittybopper: rufus-t-firefly: Watch the video of him at the police station again (preferably the YouTube version, since the ABC logo isn't in the way). He appears to have defined pectoral muscles.

I appear to have defined pectoral muscles. In reality, they are proto-manboobs, and I'm about the same height and weight as Zimmerman.

If they jiggle, then you have a point. But, I can't speak for you...Zimmerman just looks...thuggish.

Dun dun DUNNNNNN.


Like I said, I'm the same height and weight as Zimmerman, and we both used to be significantly more overweight.

But judge for yourself: This is me last year (Feb 2011), and me this year (Jan 2012).

i43.tinypic.comi39.tinypic.com

I don't think I'm significantly more bad-ass simply because I dropped 50+ lbs.
 
2012-03-29 11:32:28 AM  

dittybopper: rufus-t-firefly: dittybopper: rufus-t-firefly: Watch the video of him at the police station again (preferably the YouTube version, since the ABC logo isn't in the way). He appears to have defined pectoral muscles.

I appear to have defined pectoral muscles. In reality, they are proto-manboobs, and I'm about the same height and weight as Zimmerman.

If they jiggle, then you have a point. But, I can't speak for you...Zimmerman just looks...thuggish.

Dun dun DUNNNNNN.

Like I said, I'm the same height and weight as Zimmerman, and we both used to be significantly more overweight.

But judge for yourself: This is me last year (Feb 2011), and me this year (Jan 2012).

[i43.tinypic.com image 245x480][i39.tinypic.com image 245x480]

I don't think I'm significantly more bad-ass simply because I dropped 50+ lbs.


I can't say I'm terrified of a man with a face like that.

/No offense
 
2012-03-29 11:41:07 AM  
At this point, the only reason I click on these threads is for the seal pics.

Now back to your previously scheduled WHARRGARBL.
 
2012-03-29 11:41:11 AM  
Dunno if this has been asked yet because this thread is bigger than my car, but shouldn't the police have actual ... you know, quality photos of the injuries Zimmerman allegedly sustained when his nose was broken and his head was slammed into the sidewalk repeatedly?
 
2012-03-29 11:42:25 AM  
How many people think that "white Hispanic" is the most brilliant race-baiting ever? For the people who want to jump to the conclusion that a white guy killed a black kid because he's black, it works. If people hate Latinos, "Hispanic" gets them there, too.

Personally, I'm just appalled that there's a law that basically ties the cops hands in a case like this, until better evidence comes out. It has certainly made the cops look bad, which plays into the race-baiting, too.

I want to see justice, but people need to understand that "justice" doesn't automatically mean "lock up the white guy". If he does end up being honest, that he was just chasing down a "goon" who attacked him, so be it, right? And if it ends up being that he was looking to kill a "coon", then there's that.
 
2012-03-29 11:49:43 AM  

Purdue_Pete: So.... we still don't know. This "could" be a pretty nasty gash. It's also a crappy grainy, low-res security cam, so this won't even hold up in court. It proves nothing. However, if this was just a couple of weeks ago - there's still a scar, right?

[dailycaller.com image 352x525]


No way would that not be bleeding or bright red if it even happened in the last several hours. That's old school scarring.
 
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