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(ABC)   George Zimmerman on video after the shooting. Funny, those massive head injuries seem to have healed fast, and where's all the blood that should have stained his shirt from shooting someone who was on top of him?   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 1167
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2012-03-29 08:50:32 AM

Thunderpipes: Maybe you were handcuffed because you are an idiot?


Know how I know you're trolling? If you were serious, you wouldn't have stooped to personal insult.

Police saw blood from nose and head, EMTs treated him at the scene. I and others see what appears to be injuries in the video, but of course liberals don't. So you guys are saying all the cops, the EMTs, everyone is just making stuff up. So beautiful. Zimmerman was arrested and questioned, yet you claim he was not. No evidence to suspect wrong doing, but you know he is guilty of hate crimes. You morons are a riot. Riot!

What would you do if you're walking down the street and some guy starts chasing you? I don't care if the kid beat the living shiat out this guy six ways from Sunday, he still didn't deserve to get shot.
 
2012-03-29 08:50:49 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-03-29 08:52:23 AM

tirob: ox45tallboy: HAMMERTOE: Okay, it appears the whole issue of "arrest" is one of semantics. I thought "arrest" means to restrain a person, deny them their personal liberty of free movement at will, and to take them into custody under the authority of the law. All of these things are accomplished by a LEO slapping a pair of handcuffs on them, which is why a civilian can be charged with kidnapping for these same actions. The difference between kidnapping and citizen's arrest is totally unclear to me, as I don't have my GED in Fark Law yet.

It's a legal definition. You can be "detained", which is what happened to me on the side of the road when I had to sit there in handcuffs while my friend's car was searched. I was not arrested, the cop didn't find anything, and he took off the cuffs and let us proceed on our merry way.

I had a jackass swear out a warrant on me for something I didn't do once. I turned myself in to the police station, they took me to the back, booked me, and released me. No handcuffs.

In one instance, I was handcuffed, but not arrested. In the second, I was arrested, but not handcuffed.

Oddly enough, the term "arrested" takes on a different meaning when you resist a cop attempting to detain you - you're suddenly "resisting arrest".

But, like I said, ask a LEO. If you're arrested, you're booked. The handcuffs are policy in some departments, whether or not the individual is actually "under arrest".

FWIW, I think that in either case your Miranda rights would apply.


Neither case would Miranda apply. It applies only to being questioned. I've never had my Miranda rights read to me, but then again I've never been "questioned" related to a crime.
 
2012-03-29 08:52:41 AM

Thunderpipes: Hehe. I am the only non-racist here


I'm asking for a yes or no question: are you an anti-black racist?

Thunderpipes: You are an anti-white/mexican racist.


What are you basing that on?
 
2012-03-29 08:55:31 AM

dittybopper: You've got that wrong: In the first case you were arrested, but not charged: You weren't free to leave while you were in handcuffs, therefore you were under arrest. In the second, you were both charged and arrested. You wouldn't have been free to leave in the middle of the booking process, they would have physically restrained you if necessary to finish the process (and likely would have put you in jail also).


No, in the first case, I was detained, not arrested. At least according to my family full of LEO's. (one uncle is sheriff of a small county in TN, one is captain of police in a different city, one is over West TN State Troopers). I have no idea why they make such a semantic differential, but they do.
 
2012-03-29 08:59:02 AM

eraser8: I'm asking for a yes or no question: are you an anti-black racist?


racist |ˈrāsist|
noun
a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Hmmm. Guess that could apply to everyone.
 
2012-03-29 08:59:08 AM

ox45tallboy: Thunderpipes: Maybe you were handcuffed because you are an idiot?

Know how I know you're trolling? If you were serious, you wouldn't have stooped to personal insult.

Police saw blood from nose and head, EMTs treated him at the scene. I and others see what appears to be injuries in the video, but of course liberals don't. So you guys are saying all the cops, the EMTs, everyone is just making stuff up. So beautiful. Zimmerman was arrested and questioned, yet you claim he was not. No evidence to suspect wrong doing, but you know he is guilty of hate crimes. You morons are a riot. Riot!

What would you do if you're walking down the street and some guy starts chasing you? I don't care if the kid beat the living shiat out this guy six ways from Sunday, he still didn't deserve to get shot.


The law says he does. Because he was not "chased" like a dog, he was followed. That is not against the law in any way. The law also says you don't have the right to savagely beat someone while telling them they are going to die because someone followed you briefly. Since he did that, he absolutely deserved to be shot. This is what the law says, and common sense says. But this is Fark, in your eyes, NO_LIMIT_nubian can beat people as much as he wants while threatening their life, because he had Skittles.

Racist, dumb, and bad-dumb all at once, Congratulations.

What would I have done? I would have asked the person why he was following me. What did Tray do? "you got a problem"? "No" says Zimmerman, "now you do" and punch him in the face and start savagely beating him. Ya, sounds like an upstanding young man.
 
2012-03-29 08:59:48 AM

s2s2s2: eraser8: I'm asking for a yes or no question: are you an anti-black racist?

racist |ˈrāsist|
noun
a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Hmmm. Guess that could apply to everyone.


NASCAR is the best sport EVAR.
 
2012-03-29 09:01:42 AM

s2s2s2: Hmmm. Guess that could apply to everyone.


I modified the term with "anti-black" for a reason.
 
2012-03-29 09:01:53 AM

Thunderpipes: What would I have done? I would have asked the person why he was following me. What did Tray do? "you got a problem"? "No" says Zimmerman, "now you do" and punch him in the face and start savagely beating him. Ya, sounds like an upstanding young man.


A beating so savage that Zimmerman declined an ambulance and didn't require stitches. The beating was so severe that the kid's corpse didn't even have bruises or any marks indicative of fighting on his hands. Hmm.
 
2012-03-29 09:02:27 AM
So I suppose this video is racist in favor of black people?

/the cops and Zimmerman are screwed.
 
2012-03-29 09:02:40 AM

Thunderpipes: The law says he does. Because he was not "chased" like a dog, he was followed. That is not against the law in any way.


Following a person IS against the law, depending on the circumstances.

Also, are you an anti-black racist?
 
2012-03-29 09:03:35 AM

Thunderpipes: What did Tray do?


You haven't the slightest idea what "Tray" did.
 
2012-03-29 09:07:16 AM

Thunderpipes: ox45tallboy: Thunderpipes: Maybe you were handcuffed because you are an idiot?

Know how I know you're trolling? If you were serious, you wouldn't have stooped to personal insult.

Police saw blood from nose and head, EMTs treated him at the scene. I and others see what appears to be injuries in the video, but of course liberals don't. So you guys are saying all the cops, the EMTs, everyone is just making stuff up. So beautiful. Zimmerman was arrested and questioned, yet you claim he was not. No evidence to suspect wrong doing, but you know he is guilty of hate crimes. You morons are a riot. Riot!

What would you do if you're walking down the street and some guy starts chasing you? I don't care if the kid beat the living shiat out this guy six ways from Sunday, he still didn't deserve to get shot.

The law says he does. Because he was not "chased" like a dog, he was followed. That is not against the law in any way. The law also says you don't have the right to savagely beat someone while telling them they are going to die because someone followed you briefly. Since he did that, he absolutely deserved to be shot. This is what the law says, and common sense says. But this is Fark, in your eyes, NO_LIMIT_nubian can beat people as much as he wants while threatening their life, because he had Skittles.

Racist, dumb, and bad-dumb all at once, Congratulations.

What would I have done? I would have asked the person why he was following me. What did Tray do? "you got a problem"? "No" says Zimmerman, "now you do" and punch him in the face and start savagely beating him. Ya, sounds like an upstanding young man.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-03-29 09:07:40 AM
BREAKING NEWS!!! MUST CREDIT PHINN!!!

The police found another photo of Zimmerman. This one was taken the next day, as he went to his office. It clearly proves he had no remorse whatsoever for shooting Stuyvon. Farking racist!

s14.postimage.org
 
2012-03-29 09:10:10 AM

eraser8: Thunderpipes: What did Tray do?

You haven't the slightest idea what "Tray" did.


Zimmerman's statement and eye witness accounts of at least the middle of the fight, which is 100% more than you liberal morons know about your conspiracy theory.

Also sounds like nobody here has ever been in a single fight. Can easily bust somebody's nose and not have a single mark on your knuckles. You have to hit teeth, or hit a persons skull extremely hard to hurt your knuckles. They are very strong. But you all knew that. Also not sure what injuries you are going to sustain bashing a person's head against concrete, nothing unless you hit your own hands on the concrete or once again, hit the teeth.

Zimmerman will walk, as he should. Riots will erupt, a whole lot of innocent people will get stuff stolen, and you guys can revel in it like Davey Hogan. Chow down, lardasses!
 
2012-03-29 09:14:39 AM

Phinn: BREAKING NEWS!!! MUST CREDIT PHINN!!!

The police found another photo of Zimmerman. This one was taken the next day, as he went to his office. It clearly proves he had no remorse whatsoever for shooting Stuyvon. Farking racist!

[s14.postimage.org image 640x659]


i.imgur.com
 
2012-03-29 09:14:56 AM

Thunderpipes: The law says he does. Because he was not "chased" like a dog, he was followed. That is not against the law in any way. The law also says you don't have the right to savagely beat someone while telling them they are going to die because someone followed you briefly. Since he did that, he absolutely deserved to be shot. This is what the law says, and common sense says. But this is Fark, in your eyes, NO_LIMIT_nubian can beat people as much as he wants while threatening their life, because he had Skittles.

Racist, dumb, and bad-dumb all at once, Congratulations.

What would I have done? I would have asked the person why he was following me. What did Tray do? "you got a problem"? "No" says Zimmerman, "now you do" and punch him in the face and start savagely beating him. Ya, sounds like an upstanding young man.


So, you're going to be okay with people following you down the street in their car, then getting out and following you on foot? You're forgetting, this was a scary hispanic guy in a nice gated community. Who knows what sort of mischief he was up to!

The kid had every right to defend himself under the "stand your ground" law in Florida. He was not obligated to make nice and do what the scary Hispanic guy wanted. He was not obligated to even talk to the guy, since the scary hispanic guy was acting threateningly and unreasonable first.
 
2012-03-29 09:17:47 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Falcon Hunter: Daraymann: gaspode: Daraymann:
/If the shooter was black, nobody would care.


If the shooter was black he would be in jail or a morgue. The police don't fark about when its an armed black man. I mean are you seriously suggesting that if Martin had shot Zimmerman dead he would have been let off without charge? really really?

But the shooter was Mexican, so I guess they get a free pass now.

This should play well come election time.

President Obama: "If I had a kid, he'd be Trayvon."
Media: "A Mexican shot and killed a misbehaving black kid in Florida."
Dems: "Uhh...he was half-white."
Media: "And half Mexican."
Dems: "But we don't want to alienate blacks -or- Mexicans...shiat."
Media: "Problem?"

George Zimmerman isn't Mexican, dumbass. He's half Peruvian. Are you of the "all Hispanics are the same" type? Way to be an idiot and pre-judge based on stereotypes while simultaneously trying to mock others for doing so.

I suggest that you try walking up to a Peruvian person in real life and calling him a Mexican and see if he doesn't punch you in the face.


dm;sh

(Doesn't matter, still Hispanic.)

La Rasa and all that jazz. The Democrats view this voting block this way. Just ask Maxine Waters. I'm just parroting what they've been spouting for years now.
 
2012-03-29 09:18:23 AM

ox45tallboy: Thunderpipes: The law says he does. Because he was not "chased" like a dog, he was followed. That is not against the law in any way. The law also says you don't have the right to savagely beat someone while telling them they are going to die because someone followed you briefly. Since he did that, he absolutely deserved to be shot. This is what the law says, and common sense says. But this is Fark, in your eyes, NO_LIMIT_nubian can beat people as much as he wants while threatening their life, because he had Skittles.

Racist, dumb, and bad-dumb all at once, Congratulations.

What would I have done? I would have asked the person why he was following me. What did Tray do? "you got a problem"? "No" says Zimmerman, "now you do" and punch him in the face and start savagely beating him. Ya, sounds like an upstanding young man.

So, you're going to be okay with people following you down the street in their car, then getting out and following you on foot? You're forgetting, this was a scary hispanic guy in a nice gated community. Who knows what sort of mischief he was up to!

The kid had every right to defend himself under the "stand your ground" law in Florida. He was not obligated to make nice and do what the scary Hispanic guy wanted. He was not obligated to even talk to the guy, since the scary hispanic guy was acting threateningly and unreasonable first.


Umm, no. Once again, defend himself against what? Someone following him? Fark you are dumb. Zimmerman never asked him to do anything. Zimmerman was keeping an eye on his neighborhood which had what, 8 burglaries recently? Keep making stuff up, dumbass.

The scary hispanic guy was acting threateningly? Jesus H Christ you guys aren't even trying at this point.
 
2012-03-29 09:20:17 AM

Thunderpipes: Zimmerman's statement and eye witness accounts of at least the middle of the fight, which is 100% more than you liberal morons know about your conspiracy theory.


Zimmerman's statement is inconclusive. And, there is no witness testimony that Martin said what you claim he said.

As I said, you haven't the slightest idea what "Tray" did.

Also, are you an anti-black racist?
 
2012-03-29 09:23:02 AM

Rincewind53: Phinn: BREAKING NEWS!!! MUST CREDIT PHINN!!!

The police found another photo of Zimmerman. This one was taken the next day, as he went to his office. It clearly proves he had no remorse whatsoever for shooting Stuyvon. Farking racist!

[s14.postimage.org image 640x659]

[i.imgur.com image 640x360]


Are you done with the icanhazaseal nonsense? You're not making your point any better by putting your words in the mouths of seals.

Plus, it makes this page a motherfarker to refresh.
 
2012-03-29 09:23:54 AM
WHAT AN INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT.

I wonder what our legal expert on self-defense has to say...

Ctrl-F for "scerpes"

DavidVincent DavidVincent DavidVincent

This incident killed Trayvon and an alt. May the former Rest in Peace.
 
2012-03-29 09:24:49 AM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Trayvon Martin was murdered by George Zimmerman. Case closed.

FRY HIM! Who cares about a trial!?!!


Well, apparently not George Zimmerman... as he didn't see fit to let proper law enforcement get in his way from applying any sort of "trail" to Martin's actions...
 
2012-03-29 09:25:49 AM

Alocksly: I'd just like to chime in here and ask, as many already have; who the hell goes to the trouble of obtaining an "exclusive" video and then covers up the bit everyone wants to see with their g**d*** logo?


Folks who have something to hide. If it turns out there was a splint on this dude's nose or butterfly bandages, this is going to severely damage Martin's parents case against the cops and Zimmerman. But why would the newsfolk care? they're only in it for the money and the viewership. Spike gets condemned because he's passionate (and there's not a little race involved, it's more socially acceptable to hit Spike than to hit Trayvon right now); but when a news show of record starts trolling...............

I think Zimmerman is a dude whose father has covered for him for too long, and I like the theory out there that he's an informant for somebody. I think Zimmerman's father has connections beyond being a magistrate who writes warrants, and though his proclamations of what Martin did that night are preposterous and preposterously Hollywood Dirty Harry, he knows what he's doing when it comes to smearing Martin.

I think that the exclusive does more harm than good, unless they have the actual photos taken at the police station about Zimmerman's injuries. Have those been leaked yet?
 
2012-03-29 09:27:57 AM

Thunderpipes: indylaw: ensign_noname: Why do you think the media purposely uses 3 year old pictures of Martin instead of the ones with him all tatted up with gold teeth?

Probably because the latter are admitted to be fake, you shiatstain.

Actually the gold teeth once is legit. Media Matters even apologized to Drudge over this when Drudge posted that picture. Media Matters, the mega left wing crazy organization, apologized and admits the photo is legit. Try again, Liar McLiums.


The barechested picture with the gold teeth and the pants below the ass and the double-bird was absolutely a fraud. Post proof to the contrary.
 
2012-03-29 09:28:04 AM
I object to this thread on the grounds of moral derpitude.
 
2012-03-29 09:29:32 AM

Falcon Hunter: Are you done with the icanhazaseal nonsense? You're not making your point any better by putting your words in the mouths of seals.

Plus, it makes this page a motherfarker to refresh.


Totally get what you're saying but you can have the images converted to links. In your profile, go to Comment Preferences:

Comment display preferences:
() Normal comments display w/ HTML formatting, images, links, etc
(o) Convert images to links, leave other HTML formatting intact
() Show raw HTML tags in viewed comments


[Just below the comment entry box, you can click Post comment immediately without previewing first (see myFark preferences). hell, I made that link there work for you...]
 
2012-03-29 09:30:29 AM

bluehubcap: I object to this thread on the grounds of moral derpitude.


It herped the derp, but did not shoop the woop.
 
2012-03-29 09:30:34 AM
I think what we can all learn from this incident is this:

If you carry, concealed or openly, just remember - every shot you squeeze off, whether ultimately found justified or not, will cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars in attorney fees and will ruin your life.
 
2012-03-29 09:35:15 AM

Falcon Hunter: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Falcon Hunter: Daraymann: gaspode: Daraymann:
/If the shooter was black, nobody would care.


If the shooter was black he would be in jail or a morgue. The police don't fark about when its an armed black man. I mean are you seriously suggesting that if Martin had shot Zimmerman dead he would have been let off without charge? really really?

But the shooter was Mexican, so I guess they get a free pass now.

This should play well come election time.

President Obama: "If I had a kid, he'd be Trayvon."
Media: "A Mexican shot and killed a misbehaving black kid in Florida."
Dems: "Uhh...he was half-white."
Media: "And half Mexican."
Dems: "But we don't want to alienate blacks -or- Mexicans...shiat."
Media: "Problem?"

George Zimmerman isn't Mexican, dumbass. He's half Peruvian. Are you of the "all Hispanics are the same" type? Way to be an idiot and pre-judge based on stereotypes while simultaneously trying to mock others for doing so.

I suggest that you try walking up to a Peruvian person in real life and calling him a Mexican and see if he doesn't punch you in the face.

dm;sh

(Doesn't matter, still Hispanic.)

La Rasa and all that jazz. The Democrats view this voting block this way. Just ask Maxine Waters. I'm just parroting what they've been spouting for years now.


Actually, yes, this is an interesting test of Hispania as a unified group. Rush Limbaugh is a troll, but I am glad he called out La Raza. Certain stereotypes need to be destroyed, and the 'one size fits all' application on Hispania is one of them.

Also, we get the theatrics of the New Black Panther Party (which I am convinced is new-wave COINTELPRO, not legitimate); the usual 'voice of their people' suspects -- and former Democratic presidential darlings -- Jackson and Sharpton; and marches up and down the hizzy.................... but we aren't getting much of anything at all from a Hispanic point of view. No wailing and gnashing of teeth in embarassed sorrow that Zimmerman is one of them, no loud proclamations that Zimmerman is not and never was one of them, and most especially not even super-loud 'we march with you' shows of solidarity with the usual black suspects.

Why?

This playing ground is still black versus white. Something is wrong here.

Do hispanics in America feel resentment about still not having a voice, or do hispanics in America feel relief that the spotlight -- in spite of Zimmerman's status -- isn't really on them?
 
2012-03-29 09:36:53 AM

9beers: ChuDogg: George Zimmerman HAS NO FACE. TREYVON LITERALLY BEAT HIS FACE OFF!

By the way, Zimmerman's account is that Martin punched him one time, in the nose, which sent Zimmerman to the ground. Stop acting as if people are claiming that Martin was pounding his face into mush.


Zimmerman's father says Martin was pounding Zimmerman's face into mush and that Zimmerman was being beaten for a minute or so:

Link (new window)
 
2012-03-29 09:38:05 AM

eraser8: dittybopper: You weren't free to leave while you were in handcuffs, therefore you were under arrest.

Arrest is more than simply being in the custody of an LEO. There are four general elements that must be present for any detention to be considered arrest. If any of those four elements is missing, the detention isn't arrest.


No. Legally, as soon as you are no longer free to leave, you are under arrest. You may be arrested, and then let go without being charged, which is what happened to Zimmerman.

You are confusing this situation with a Terry stop, which isn't what happened to Zimmerman. He was taken into actual custody and interrogated. I'll bet you dollars to donuts he was read his Miranda rights. He just wasn't formally *CHARGED* with a crime.
 
2012-03-29 09:38:35 AM

RexTalionis: If you carry, concealed or openly, just remember - every shot you squeeze off, whether ultimately found justified or not, will cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars in attorney fees and will ruin your life.


Which ought to teach people that unless a life in danger, the armed person should choose to retreat or de-escalate and let the police handle it.

And, in fact, that's what 98 out of 100 armed persons is going to do. Most people with weapons are very, very responsible. But, those 2 out of 100 can cause a lot of damage -- especially when a SYG law gives them a green light to act out their hero fantasies.
 
2012-03-29 09:38:43 AM

Mrtraveler01: 9beers: Mrtraveler01: But they're in no way racist...

You know dude, you're kind of dimwitted with all your racist talk. I decided to go over to Strormfront to see how real racists are reacting to this and guess what, the only thing they're concerned about is Zimmerman being labeled as white. They couldn't give a fark less that a Hispanic might be accused of killing a black. So see buddy, you're kind of a fool because white racists don't give a fark about anything other than other white people.

The real racists in this are people pulling the race card. You know, about 99% of the black population and most Farkers.

So these aren't racist?

[i5.photobucket.com image 500x375]

[www.christandpopculture.com image 640x353]


I love how they use that scrawny picture - kind of defeats the "Zimmerman was overpowered and in imminent danger" argument. That bird-chested kid ain't kicking anyone's ass.
 
2012-03-29 09:41:01 AM

balloot: Mrtraveler01: 9beers: Mrtraveler01: But they're in no way racist...

You know dude, you're kind of dimwitted with all your racist talk. I decided to go over to Strormfront to see how real racists are reacting to this and guess what, the only thing they're concerned about is Zimmerman being labeled as white. They couldn't give a fark less that a Hispanic might be accused of killing a black. So see buddy, you're kind of a fool because white racists don't give a fark about anything other than other white people.

The real racists in this are people pulling the race card. You know, about 99% of the black population and most Farkers.

So these aren't racist?

[i5.photobucket.com image 500x375]

[www.christandpopculture.com image 640x353]

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The black kid giving the finger is not Trayvon Martin. But WTF, all black teenagers are scary and look the same, amirite?

The question I have to ask is why do conservatives want to protect the murderer of a black kid so badly that they'll stoop to flat out lies in order to sully the reputation of a dead teenage boy? Seriously - people like 9beers and this MrTraveler guy are just horrible, awful, disgusting people.


You're preaching to the choir. I know that wasn't even Martin. But that didn't stop the folks who made those pics from saying it was them.

And let me iterate: I DO NOT CONDONE ANY OF THOSE PICS!!!

So don't lump me in with 9Beers.
 
2012-03-29 09:44:38 AM

indylaw: So I suppose this video is racist in favor of black people?

/the cops and Zimmerman are screwed.


So were Koon, Powell, Briseno and Wind.

/'.. they were all found not guilty, not guilty. not guilty...'
//it's a good thing music isn't at the state it was in the early 90s
 
2012-03-29 09:44:48 AM

dittybopper: No. Legally, as soon as you are no longer free to leave, you are under arrest. You may be arrested, and then let go without being charged, which is what happened to Zimmerman.


No. There's actually a HUGE amount of case law on this. The four elements are (I'm simplifying things, a bit): 1) authority to arrest 2) actual or constructive seizure or detention 3) communication by the arresting agent to the subject of the arrest and 4) a recognition by the subject that he is under arrest.

I'm not confusing arrest with a Terry stop. A Terry stop merely requires reasonable suspicion. An arrest requires probable cause.
 
2012-03-29 09:45:49 AM

eraser8: s2s2s2: Hmmm. Guess that could apply to everyone.

I modified the term with "anti-black" for a reason.


FINE! GAH!
 
2012-03-29 09:46:33 AM

rufus-t-firefly: I love how they use that scrawny picture - kind of defeats the "Zimmerman was overpowered and in imminent danger" argument. That bird-chested kid ain't kicking anyone's ass.


it also shows that Zimmerman wasn't some fat Jabba comically running after Martin while the opening theme to What's Happenin' plays in the background.

Frankly, the video shows him to be in rather good shape. Athlete or not, I find it LESS likely to believe that Zimmerman couldn't counter some of the moves on a 140 pound kid.
 
2012-03-29 09:47:34 AM

dittybopper: You are confusing this situation with a Terry stop, which isn't what happened to Zimmerman. He was taken into actual custody and interrogated. I'll bet you dollars to donuts he was read his Miranda rights. He just wasn't formally *CHARGED* with a crime.


Which is funny, because there were lots of people rushing to hurl insults at the police in this case, calling them racist.
They wanted to charge him, prosecutors said "we got nothin' cut him loose".
 
2012-03-29 09:49:44 AM

indylaw: Thunderpipes: indylaw: ensign_noname: Why do you think the media purposely uses 3 year old pictures of Martin instead of the ones with him all tatted up with gold teeth?

Probably because the latter are admitted to be fake, you shiatstain.

Actually the gold teeth once is legit. Media Matters even apologized to Drudge over this when Drudge posted that picture. Media Matters, the mega left wing crazy organization, apologized and admits the photo is legit. Try again, Liar McLiums.

The barechested picture with the gold teeth and the pants below the ass and the double-bird was absolutely a fraud. Post proof to the contrary.


there are two gold teeth photos. the double bird is not, apparently, but the close up one is.-- http://www.mediaite.com/online/media-matters-writer-apologizes-after- a ccusing-drudge-of-posting-fake-trayvon-martin-photo/: Media Matters' MJ Rosenberg has apologized for having accused conservative news aggregator Matt Drudge of posting a picture of a young black man other than Trayvon Martin for "incitement purposes." As FoxNews.com reports, Rosenberg had explained that he'd gotten Drudge's photo confused with one used on Michelle Malkin's new site, Twitchy:

it shouldn't matter anyway. just like the three white boys of the west memphis 3 should not have been prejudged because of their clothing and style choices, neither should trayvon.
 
2012-03-29 09:51:38 AM

stebain: rufus-t-firefly: I love how they use that scrawny picture - kind of defeats the "Zimmerman was overpowered and in imminent danger" argument. That bird-chested kid ain't kicking anyone's ass.

it also shows that Zimmerman wasn't some fat Jabba comically running after Martin while the opening theme to What's Happenin' plays in the background.

Frankly, the video shows him to be in rather good shape. Athlete or not, I find it LESS likely to believe that Zimmerman couldn't counter some of the moves on a 140 pound kid.


Oh Jesus, the Bruce Lee brigade jumps in. Yes, body weight is the only thing that matters. Height, reach, aggression, throwing the first punch, nothing matters but weight. Yup.

Morons.
 
2012-03-29 09:53:27 AM

indylaw: bluehubcap: I object to this thread on the grounds of moral derpitude.

It herped the derp, but did not shoop the woop.


;)
 
2012-03-29 09:54:37 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: it shouldn't matter anyway. just like the three white boys of the west memphis 3 should not have been prejudged because of their clothing and style choices, neither should trayvon.


You make me see repeating bears.
 
2012-03-29 09:55:01 AM

gblive: YouTube version of the video without the big ABC banner (new window)

Then, Robert Zimmerman claims, Martin punched George Zimmerman in the face, breaking his nose and knocking him to the ground.

"Trayvon Martin got on top of him, and just started beating him," Robert Zimmerman claims. "In his face, on his nose, hitting his face on the concrete."

"After nearly a minute of being beaten, George was trying to get his head off the concrete, trying to move with Trayvon on him, in the grass."


Link (new window)

I can only assume that he went to the hospital before they took him to the station and they fixed his broken nose with no bandages or anything. Considering how much you bleed from a busted nose and a face that's been beaten into concrete, it's incredible how well they cleaned him up. Hell, they even washed his clothes. Plus he looks MUCH more like a badass than he did in that old mugshot OR in the newer suit and tie one.

Seriously, the Florida health care system is INCREDIBLE.
 
2012-03-29 09:56:19 AM

Thunderpipes: Oh Jesus, the Bruce Lee brigade jumps in. Yes, body weight is the only thing that matters. Height, reach, aggression, throwing the first punch, nothing matters but weight. Yup.


Certainly didn't start that war, sizzlechest. Folks on here, I thought you might have been one but I won't make that an assertion, were making light that they thought people thought Fat Orange Shirt could catch Future All America.
 
2012-03-29 09:57:23 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: indylaw: Thunderpipes: indylaw: ensign_noname: Why do you think the media purposely uses 3 year old pictures of Martin instead of the ones with him all tatted up with gold teeth?

Probably because the latter are admitted to be fake, you shiatstain.

Actually the gold teeth once is legit. Media Matters even apologized to Drudge over this when Drudge posted that picture. Media Matters, the mega left wing crazy organization, apologized and admits the photo is legit. Try again, Liar McLiums.

The barechested picture with the gold teeth and the pants below the ass and the double-bird was absolutely a fraud. Post proof to the contrary.

there are two gold teeth photos. the double bird is not, apparently, but the close up one is.-- http://www.mediaite.com/online/media-matters-writer-apologizes-after- a ccusing-drudge-of-posting-fake-trayvon-martin-photo/: Media Matters' MJ Rosenberg has apologized for having accused conservative news aggregator Matt Drudge of posting a picture of a young black man other than Trayvon Martin for "incitement purposes." As FoxNews.com reports, Rosenberg had explained that he'd gotten Drudge's photo confused with one used on Michelle Malkin's new site, Twitchy:

it shouldn't matter anyway. just like the three white boys of the west memphis 3 should not have been prejudged because of their clothing and style choices, neither should trayvon.


Would that it were so. Its funny liberals say this, yet from the very start you have prejudged Zimmerman based on his race. he is sort of white, the kid was black, therefore it was a hate crime committed by Zimmerman because black people are always innocent and sort of white people all want to kill black guys. That literally is what you guys are doing, and you don't see the absolute hypocrisy there. It is crazy. Even Tray's dumbass mother said "Zimmerman may not have been a racist, but he racially profiled my son". WTF? he didn't even initially know the kid was black. Should he make stuff up and say he is white to avoid hurt feelings?

You all are extremely racist individuals. You don't care about truth or justice, just about racial hatred of sort of white people. Left to you, there would be no investigation, no charges, no trial, no jury. Cops seem to have acted perfectly here, as did the DA. But not good enough for you, you need Whitey blood!

Are you the New White Panthers?
 
2012-03-29 09:58:23 AM

stebain: rufus-t-firefly: I love how they use that scrawny picture - kind of defeats the "Zimmerman was overpowered and in imminent danger" argument. That bird-chested kid ain't kicking anyone's ass.

it also shows that Zimmerman wasn't some fat Jabba comically running after Martin while the opening theme to What's Happenin' plays in the background.

Frankly, the video shows him to be in rather good shape. Athlete or not, I find it LESS likely to believe that Zimmerman couldn't counter some of the moves on a 140 pound kid.


Their story: A fat guy, just trying to do good, crying and wailing as he's beaten by a thug.

The video, however, shows a MUCH different person. It's even a different image than the one they've tried to build with the suit picture...can't wait to see how they spin this one.
 
2012-03-29 09:58:42 AM

rufus-t-firefly: Seriously, the Florida health care system is INCREDIBLE.


I still want to see the time stamp.
 
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