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(ABC)   George Zimmerman on video after the shooting. Funny, those massive head injuries seem to have healed fast, and where's all the blood that should have stained his shirt from shooting someone who was on top of him?   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 1167
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2012-03-29 01:19:27 AM
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2012-03-29 01:20:25 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Mrtraveler01: UCFRoadWarrior: White Guilt

No, it's just a stupid term. Racists use it when they get called out on their racism.

Right...And also anyone that dioesn't agree w Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Spike Lee...they are "racists" too...right?


Not at all. But right-wingers like to pretend racism doesn't exist as a problem in our society, while it's always right-wingers that are the biggest racists. Why is that?
 
2012-03-29 01:20:27 AM

ununcle: the_vegetarian_cannibal: So says the guy from New Hampshire.

So what? I'm supposed to live in Baltimore or Detroit to get a proper dose of multi culturism?


If you were about to have surgery and never went to medical school, would you try to lecture the surgeon about the proper way to perform the procedure?
 
2012-03-29 01:21:21 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Mrtraveler01: UCFRoadWarrior: White Guilt

No, it's just a stupid term. Racists use it when they get called out on their racism.

Right...And also anyone that dioesn't agree w Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Spike Lee...they are "racists" too...right?


Jesse Jackson helped free 3 American troops that were being held hostage in the Middle East. What have you done?
 
2012-03-29 01:21:25 AM
Hey look, the people calling other people racist are the ones constantly bringing race into a story that has nothing to do with race.
 
2012-03-29 01:21:34 AM

Rincewind53: osafer: I didn't say all liberals nor did I say all conservatives... I was talking about you and me, I think you are a racists, because you only see someone by the color of their skin....

"I don't see the color of anyone's skin" is the most bullshiat lie conservatives have been telling for a while now. Why do you think Colbert makes so much fun of it?

"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... so I don't believe in paying attention to the problems of poverty among black people."
"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... so if you don't succeed in this country it's because you're lazy"
"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... so if you point it out to me, that makes you a racist."
"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... but if you name your kid 'Shaniqua' I'm just going to make fun of you for that."
"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... I give all black people the benefit of the doubt that they're not criminals."
"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... so when a black person gets arrested for marijuana and gets sent to prison and a white person gets arrested for marijuana and gets community service, I just chalk it up to random chance."


You caught me, I really am a racist, I was just trying to protect myself on a anonymous forum. Like I said I don't care what anyone thinks of me, I know who I am and I know what I stand for, instead of arguing points or facts keep calling names.
 
2012-03-29 01:21:42 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Right...And also anyone that dioesn't agree w Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Spike Lee...they are "racists" too...right?


Actually THOSE guys are racists.

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2012-03-29 01:22:24 AM

CornDog in 2012: So if this turns Out like the duke case, will everyone apologize?


Yes. If it turns out Trayvon Martin faked his death just to get George Zimmerman in trouble, I suspect a lot of people will apologize.

And, unless Trayvon Martin is alive somewhere laughing at all the trouble he stirred up, I don't see how it possibly be ANYTHING like the Duke case.
 
2012-03-29 01:22:28 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: ununcle: the_vegetarian_cannibal: So says the guy from New Hampshire.

So what? I'm supposed to live in Baltimore or Detroit to get a proper dose of multi culturism?

If you were about to have surgery and never went to medical school, would you try to lecture the surgeon about the proper way to perform the procedure?


He's seen "Martin" and rented "New Jack City" so he's pretty sure he knows what's going on.
 
2012-03-29 01:22:41 AM

ChuDogg: To "white-hispanic", first time I ever heard that term widely used. They could have just said "initial reports of being white were wrong, he's actually hispanic" and used that from there on out. And yeah, we know hispanics can be white. Most people don't think of Peruvians as the whitest hispanics though.


By me it's just hispanic, on the Illinois news. Doesn't change the fact that the cops on the scene pegged him as white long before the media got involved.

But the outrage is not that the shooter is white or Hispanic or anything else. It's that a kid was shot and is dead, and not only did the shooter profile him, but people all over the internet are just taking up the cause and doing the same thing, acting as if various little bits of dirt dug up about his history somehow mean that even if Zimmerman went off half-cocked (EVEN IF, not saying he did or didn't, but people saying EVEN IF) it wouldn't matter, because well, no harm done.

That's the part that has people disgusted about the whole thing, because this isn't just one isolated case either.

It's the fact that people see a black kid wearing a hoodie and instantly jump to "thug" "dangerous" "going to hurt me" that's the problem. Zimmerman apparently did, and half the internet is all too happy to just follow right along.

the_vegetarian_cannibal: If you were walking in a neighborhood at night while wearing a hoodie and eating skittles, do you think that some gun-ho overzealous vigilante watchdog would start stalking you in his car and accusing you of being a criminal? If you answered no, then I'm afraid that you do have white privilege*, whether you like to admit it or not.


Thank you.

It's nothing to feel guilty over. It just is.

meathome: Next bit. He wouldn't be covered in blood unless Martin fell on Zimmerman. There would be spatter, but after 2-3 ft or so it wouldn't be much (not with a 9mm), and with the clothes he's wearing and the resolution of the video I think most of us would be hard pressed to find it. Blood spatter isn't quite as pronounced as CSI might lead folks to believe.

Frankly, I'd be more interested in the angle of entry of the bullet that killed Martin. Depending on that, the whole story could change.


But if he's two or three feet away, he has to shoot? The kid is unarmed, remember, and 2-3 feet seems farther than arm's reach. But maybe that's when Zimmerman is supposedly groaning and unable to get up, so could happen.

I agree the autopsy reports would be interesting to see.

osafer: Unlike you I refuse to feel guilty for something I had nothing to do with or have no control over


No one has asked you to feel guilty for anything.

technicolor-misfit: The issue was never about the fact that Zimmerman was white. The issue was about the fact that he wasn't arrested or charged or tried... as he almost assuredly would have been had Trayvon Martin been a white kid.

IT was never about what horrible awful people white folks were. It was about the lack of concern and consideration Trayvon Martin received from authorities.


This too. It's the race of the victim here that's relevant, because profiling apparently happened. And while you can possibly argue over the extent of the profiling in the actual incident, the internet sure as heck is alive with it now all over the place.

One thing about news stories like these I guess, they remind people that stuff hasn't changed nearly as much as they like to think.
 
2012-03-29 01:22:41 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Mrtraveler01: UCFRoadWarrior: White Guilt

No, it's just a stupid term. Racists use it when they get called out on their racism.

Right...And also anyone that dioesn't agree w Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Spike Lee...they are "racists" too...right?


No. I don't take any of them seriously. But that doesn't excuse Zimmerman shooting Martin or conservative bloggers trying to paint Martin as a thug.

With logic like that, I'm surprised UCF hasn't revoked your degree yet.
 
2012-03-29 01:22:54 AM

9beers: Hey look, the people calling other people racist are the ones constantly bringing race into a story that has nothing to do with race.


Oh god, another right-winger pretending he's color-blind. Give it up, be an honest man. You disgrace yourself with your feigned ignorance.
 
2012-03-29 01:23:23 AM

9beers: Hey look, the people calling other people racist are the ones constantly bringing race into a story that has nothing to do with race.


Everyone knows it's about terms of endearment.
 
2012-03-29 01:23:49 AM

osafer: Rincewind53: osafer: I didn't say all liberals nor did I say all conservatives... I was talking about you and me, I think you are a racists, because you only see someone by the color of their skin....

"I don't see the color of anyone's skin" is the most bullshiat lie conservatives have been telling for a while now. Why do you think Colbert makes so much fun of it?

"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... so I don't believe in paying attention to the problems of poverty among black people."
"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... so if you don't succeed in this country it's because you're lazy"
"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... so if you point it out to me, that makes you a racist."
"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... but if you name your kid 'Shaniqua' I'm just going to make fun of you for that."
"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... I give all black people the benefit of the doubt that they're not criminals."
"I don't see the color of anyone's skin.... so when a black person gets arrested for marijuana and gets sent to prison and a white person gets arrested for marijuana and gets community service, I just chalk it up to random chance."

You caught me, I really am a racist, I was just trying to protect myself on a anonymous forum. Like I said I don't care what anyone thinks of me, I know who I am and I know what I stand for, instead of arguing points or facts keep calling names.


STFU, Honky. Peckerwoods like you give all us crackers a bad name.
 
2012-03-29 01:23:55 AM

eraser8: Yes. If it turns out Trayvon Martin faked his death just to get George Zimmerman in trouble, I suspect a lot of people will apologize.

And, unless Trayvon Martin is alive somewhere laughing at all the trouble he stirred up, I don't see how it possibly be ANYTHING like the Duke case.



Or maybe he's talking about the rush to judgement without having the facts. Who knows though, you Farkers do have keen investigative skills.
 
2012-03-29 01:24:27 AM
Right-wingers: "I'm color-blind! As long as everyone dresses, grooms, and acts like a proper white Republican, I have no problem with them at all! Pinky swear!"

And they are serious.
 
2012-03-29 01:24:30 AM

Confabulat: Rincewind53: Yess... conservatives are so enlightened about the whole race thing, it's the liberals who are the real racists.

Conservatives think Jim Crow laws were enacted by liberals, and the civil rights movement was a conservative phenomenon.

/actually they don't think that at all, they just call Jim Crow "the good ol' days"


Well, if you knew anything about History....you would learn that it was DEMOCRATS in the South who founded the KKK, promoted slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, anti-miscengation laws, poll taxes, and....wait for it...lynching.

AND....the vast majority of those democrats remained democrat after The Civil Right Act of 1964 passed....oh, which Dems like AL GORE SR (Al's dad) and William Fulbright (Clinton's mentor) VOTED AGAINST

Pretty much, judging by the way they have treated Hispanic George Zimmerman....the Dems are still up to their racist ways
 
2012-03-29 01:27:14 AM
Hey Guys! DId anybody catch this shot????

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You SEE That???

Hold on let me enhance it a bit....

i40.tinypic.com

George Zimmerman HAS NO FACE. TREYVON LITERALLY BEAT HIS FACE OFF!
 
2012-03-29 01:27:15 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Confabulat: Rincewind53: Yess... conservatives are so enlightened about the whole race thing, it's the liberals who are the real racists.

Conservatives think Jim Crow laws were enacted by liberals, and the civil rights movement was a conservative phenomenon.

/actually they don't think that at all, they just call Jim Crow "the good ol' days"

Well, if you knew anything about History....you would learn that it was DEMOCRATS in the South who founded the KKK, promoted slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, anti-miscengation laws, poll taxes, and....wait for it...lynching.

AND....the vast majority of those democrats remained democrat after The Civil Right Act of 1964 passed....oh, which Dems like AL GORE SR (Al's dad) and William Fulbright (Clinton's mentor) VOTED AGAINST

Pretty much, judging by the way they have treated Hispanic George Zimmerman....the Dems are still up to their racist ways


I'm glad you used "Democrat" - because that way you can pretend they weren't religious states-rights conservatives who believed in small federal government.
 
2012-03-29 01:27:18 AM
Racists are notoriously unreliable at recognizing and reporting their own racism.

"Creator of 'Don't Re-Nig in 2012' bumper sticker says: 'I am not racist'"
http://www.thegrio.com/politics/creator-of-dont-re-nig-in-2012-bumpe r- sticker-says-i-am-not-racist.php (new window)
 
2012-03-29 01:27:58 AM

Confabulat: UCFRoadWarrior: Mrtraveler01: UCFRoadWarrior: White Guilt

No, it's just a stupid term. Racists use it when they get called out on their racism.

Right...And also anyone that dioesn't agree w Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Spike Lee...they are "racists" too...right?

Not at all. But right-wingers like to pretend racism doesn't exist as a problem in our society, while it's always right-wingers that are the biggest racists. Why is that?


Last time I checked....the New Black Panthers were not Right-Wingers. They are the ones who want to lynch Zimmerman.....41 million dollar bounty they have
 
2012-03-29 01:28:13 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Confabulat: Rincewind53: Yess... conservatives are so enlightened about the whole race thing, it's the liberals who are the real racists.

Conservatives think Jim Crow laws were enacted by liberals, and the civil rights movement was a conservative phenomenon.

/actually they don't think that at all, they just call Jim Crow "the good ol' days"

Well, if you knew anything about History....you would learn that it was DEMOCRATS in the South who founded the KKK, promoted slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, anti-miscengation laws, poll taxes, and....wait for it...lynching.

AND....the vast majority of those democrats remained democrat after The Civil Right Act of 1964 passed....oh, which Dems like AL GORE SR (Al's dad) and William Fulbright (Clinton's mentor) VOTED AGAINST

Pretty much, judging by the way they have treated Hispanic George Zimmerman....the Dems are still up to their racist ways


Oh you know damn well that the Southern Democrats used to rule the south, until the Republicans figured out how to the the churchies on their side. That was a huge political mistake for the Democrats back in the 70s. Hell Jimmy Carter was probably one of the most open religious men to ever hold the Presidency in modern times.

It's not the name "Democratic" that matters. Only a dumbass cares about the brand name. The Republicans figured out a way to take advantage of the ignorance, bigotry, and hatred of the standard Southern man at the time, and have been running with it ever since.

I'm guessing they suckered you pretty easily.
 
2012-03-29 01:29:40 AM

9beers: eraser8: Yes. If it turns out Trayvon Martin faked his death just to get George Zimmerman in trouble, I suspect a lot of people will apologize.

And, unless Trayvon Martin is alive somewhere laughing at all the trouble he stirred up, I don't see how it possibly be ANYTHING like the Duke case.


Or maybe he's talking about the rush to judgement without having the facts. Who knows though, you Farkers do have keen investigative skills.


Who is rushing to judgment? Other than people like you, that is?
 
2012-03-29 01:29:53 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Last time I checked....the New Black Panthers were not Right-Wingers.


Who are the New Black Panthers? Some group of like 20 guys you never heard of until yesterday when your scared right-wing alarm bells went off?

Who cares about them? Oh, cowards from the right-wing. No real person takes them seriously, you know, coward.
 
2012-03-29 01:30:40 AM

itazurakko: But the outrage is not that the shooter is white or Hispanic or anything else. It's that a kid was shot and is dead, and not only did the shooter profile him, but people all over the internet are just taking up the cause and doing the same thing, acting as if various little bits of dirt dug up about his history somehow mean that even if Zimmerman went off half-cocked (EVEN IF, not saying he did or didn't, but people saying EVEN IF) it wouldn't matter, because well, no harm done.


Yeah, because nobody's every used race has a PR strategy to gain attention.
 
2012-03-29 01:30:44 AM
I've honestly never met a more frightened bunch of people than America's terrified right-wingers. Does anything NOT scare them?
 
2012-03-29 01:31:08 AM

Confabulat: Oh god, another right-winger pretending he's color-blind.


Nope, that's not me. Your problem is that you assume that a person that isn't sitting here making excuses for the problems blacks face is also sitting here cheering because one was shot dead. The fact that you can't distinguish between the two makes you a moron.
 
2012-03-29 01:31:16 AM

technicolor-misfit: osafer: Link (new window)

What white privilege may look like.


Yep, some thugs beat up a white dude. That totally negates the well-documented fact that white people have better access to education, jobs, homes, and virtually all business services... and about the only thing that black people have better access to is the criminal justice system.

I'm sure you'd positively leap at the chance to be black. It's such a sweet gig compared to the horrible oppression we white people are forced to face.


Ain't that the truth. In face, osafer has convinced me. Tomorrow I'm going to throw off the shackles of my race and from now on I'm going out in public only in blackface.

/what could possibly go wrong?
 
2012-03-29 01:32:14 AM

ChuDogg: Yeah, because nobody's every used race has a PR strategy to gain attention.


What?
 
2012-03-29 01:32:51 AM

Confabulat: I've honestly never met a more frightened bunch of people than America's terrified right-wingers. Does anything NOT scare them?


Land wars in the middle east, apparently.
 
2012-03-29 01:33:12 AM

incrdbil: Videos are often unreliabel for clearly showing injuries. Many wounds, bruising simply do not show up or stand out, unless the video is deliberately used to document thos injuries, up close, in high resolution.

The media knows this..but they don't care. They want to make a martyr out of this kid. Most of the zombies following MSNBC and many other sources think Martin was a scrawny 12 year old, and Zimmerman a KKK-robe wearing pure-anglo racist who wandered the streets shooting at minorities.

From the limited descriptions of eye witnesses, the self defense case is plausible. Zimmerman was attacked, after he stopped following Martin. Martin returned..he did not stand ground, he moved into position, and initiated the assault. Zimmerman defended himself. This is according to witness testimony, not claims of a people not there, or who saw the scene after the fact but from actual witnesses.

But hey, just remember, the media is always right from the start. Just ask those Duke lacrosse players.


Very good points

But probably way over the two digit IQ mentality of those who get their news from MSNBC.
 
2012-03-29 01:33:31 AM

9beers: Confabulat: Oh god, another right-winger pretending he's color-blind.

Nope, that's not me. Your problem is that you assume that a person that isn't sitting here making excuses for the problems blacks face is also sitting here cheering because one was shot dead. The fact that you can't distinguish between the two makes you a moron.


No, but I do see a person making excuses for him being shot dead. Which makes you a lousy human being.
 
2012-03-29 01:33:33 AM
I said I would not judge the guy until I saw sufficient evidence to believe he's guilty (by way of him not being in fear of his life at the time he pulled the trigger)... because the video shows Mr. Zimmerman in such good condition (no black eyes, no substantial bleeding from the back of his head as had been reported, just generally in good shape), I do not believe, given the evidence, that Mr. Zimmerman was attacked to such a point that any reasonable person would have had fear for their life. I know in other threads I took an absolute drubbing for saying I wanted to wait until there was some compelling evidence one way or another because I believed Mr. Zimmerman could have said something so hateful it would have incited an attack from Mr. Davis, but after seeing this video, I'm onboard with indicting the farker for either manslaughter or second degree homicide.
 
2012-03-29 01:33:36 AM

9beers: eraser8: Yes. If it turns out Trayvon Martin faked his death just to get George Zimmerman in trouble, I suspect a lot of people will apologize.

And, unless Trayvon Martin is alive somewhere laughing at all the trouble he stirred up, I don't see how it possibly be ANYTHING like the Duke case.


Or maybe he's talking about the rush to judgement without having the facts. Who knows though, you Farkers do have keen investigative skills.


So says the guy who has been trying to push flimsy and/or already debunked "facts" for over a week to try to justify the killing of Martin and then having to furiously backpedal whenever new evidence shows that he's wrong (i.e, "cracked skull" as just one example).

But it's not prematurely rushing to judgement when YOU do it!
 
2012-03-29 01:33:44 AM

9beers: Your problem is that you assume that a person that isn't sitting here making excuses for the problems blacks face is also sitting here cheering because one was shot dead.


img31.imageshack.us
 
2012-03-29 01:34:23 AM

ChuDogg: George Zimmerman HAS NO FACE. TREYVON LITERALLY BEAT HIS FACE OFF!


By the way, Zimmerman's account is that Martin punched him one time, in the nose, which sent Zimmerman to the ground. Stop acting as if people are claiming that Martin was pounding his face into mush.
 
2012-03-29 01:34:57 AM

itazurakko: What?


because nobody has every used race has a PR strategy to gain attention.
 
2012-03-29 01:35:09 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: But probably way over the two digit IQ mentality of those who get their news from MSNBC.


I'm smart enough not to pay for cable. What's your excuse? By the way, I know a degree from UCF isn't much to brag about, but is that really how you present yourself to the world? Surely there's something more impressive you've accomplished in life?
 
2012-03-29 01:35:25 AM

I Browse: 9beers: I Browse:

A white person gets killed in the name of Treyvon Martin followed by a retaliation killing of a black person and we're going to have an all out race war. Never mind the fact that Zimmerman isn't white, all that matters is that he's not black.


People have been predicting a race war in this country since Reconstruction. Not gonna happen. Despite what some claim, white people and black people (and Latinos and Asians) are way too intertwined in each other's lives to even consider some kind of tribal go-grab-your-guns race war.

I suppose you could rile up those who self segregate anyway. But in most of the big cities (and even many small towns) where people live and work and socialize side by side with people of different races, religions, yadda yadda...? I just can't see it.

I'm supposed to turn on my white friends and colleagues because some other black person I don't even know got killed? My white friends and colleagues are supposed to turn on me out of allegiance to some other white person that they don't even know? I don't believe people are that tribal anymore, outside of say...prisons, or Lord of the Flies scenarios.


9Beers doesn't understand this because he has no friends and everybody that comes in contact with him dislikes him.
 
2012-03-29 01:36:26 AM

eraser8: 9beers: Your problem is that you assume that a person that isn't sitting here making excuses for the problems blacks face is also sitting here cheering because one was shot dead.

[img31.imageshack.us image 640x122]


hehe. Well which is it, 9beers?

Why right-wingers are so terrified to own up to their own real opinions when they are pointed out?

Because I think even they have some sense of shame.
 
2012-03-29 01:37:02 AM
I have to work in the morning but, last thought...

If this ISN'T about race:

Would you believe the police investigation was adequate if Zimmerman shot a 17 year old 140 pound white girl?

...didn't think so.
 
2012-03-29 01:37:06 AM

Confabulat: UCFRoadWarrior: Last time I checked....the New Black Panthers were not Right-Wingers.

Who are the New Black Panthers? Some group of like 20 guys you never heard of until yesterday when your scared right-wing alarm bells went off?

Who cares about them? Oh, cowards from the right-wing. No real person takes them seriously, you know, coward.


Dude...you have some real White Guilt issues.

Some Black Racist group puts a bounty on a possibly innocent Hispanic man....thats serious.
 
2012-03-29 01:37:20 AM

firefly212: I said I would not judge the guy until I saw sufficient evidence to believe he's guilty (by way of him not being in fear of his life at the time he pulled the trigger)... because the video shows Mr. Zimmerman in such good condition (no black eyes, no substantial bleeding from the back of his head as had been reported, just generally in good shape), I do not believe, given the evidence, that Mr. Zimmerman was attacked to such a point that any reasonable person would have had fear for their life. I know in other threads I took an absolute drubbing for saying I wanted to wait until there was some compelling evidence one way or another because I believed Mr. Zimmerman could have said something so hateful it would have incited an attack from Mr. Davis, but after seeing this video, I'm onboard with indicting the farker for either manslaughter or second degree homicide.


Did you not see the picture of him missing his face!?!!??!
 
2012-03-29 01:37:40 AM

Confabulat: No, but I do see a person making excuses for him being shot dead. Which makes you a lousy human being.


I'm giving my opinion based on the facts, an eyewitness and the fact that he hasn't been arrested even though this case has been under investigation for a month now. You want to stick a guy in jail based on nothing but speculations and a desire to follow the mob. Yes, I'm the lousy human being. Keep telling yourself that, Skippy.
 
2012-03-29 01:38:00 AM

9beers: ChuDogg: George Zimmerman HAS NO FACE. TREYVON LITERALLY BEAT HIS FACE OFF!

By the way, Zimmerman's account is that Martin punched him one time, in the nose, which sent Zimmerman to the ground. Stop acting as if people are claiming that Martin was pounding his face into mush.


People were, however, claiming that "[t]he kid was 6'3 and a high school athlete. He was slamming Zimmerman's head into the concrete sidewalk."
 
2012-03-29 01:38:15 AM
I see skin color. He'll I've got eyes I can see color. I just don't give a hoot about a persons color.

CSB:

I got pulled over for driving while white. It was in Miami in the 1980's here is how it went.

Brother: Fark this doesn't look right I think we need to go back.
Me: ok I'll go around the block.

Flashing red lights in mirror.

Cop: what are you doing on this street
Me: I'm lost and going around the block to turn around.
Cop: are you sure your not here to buy drugs.
Me: no sir.
Brother: officer she can't do drugs she's in the Army.
Cop: really.
Me: yes sir
Cop: (to brother) you look like my best friend from high school.
Cop: (to me) I am going to escort you out of this area. Follow me.
Me: thank you sir
Cop: no problem

See there is no such thing as white privilege.
 
2012-03-29 01:39:26 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: So says the guy who has been trying to push flimsy and/or already debunked "facts" for over a week to try to justify the killing of Martin and then having to furiously backpedal whenever new evidence shows that he's wrong (i.e, "cracked skull" as just one example).


Keep lying, it's all you have since you have no evidence of a crime. Let me know when somebody refutes the one eyewitness and we'll talk.
 
2012-03-29 01:39:51 AM

SithLord: You know, maybe perhaps Zimmerman received some on-scene medical treatment to fix the cuts on the back of his head and blood-stained clothes were removed for evidence and permitted to change before being taken into custody?

Blood-stained clothes are not going to be kept on a person for chance of evidence or sanitation purposes. Why would someone continue to wear blood-stained clothes for THEIR own and the cops own safety from bodily fluids.

But CSI: Fark has already decided Zimmerman is guilty.


So the cops LET HIM GO HOME, change out of a possibly BLOODY SHIRT and DIRT/GRASS STAINED shoes, jacket and pants, let him WASH HIMSELF, then handcuffed him and took him down to the police station.

Leaving all the evidence of his "struggle" at home or in their possession.

Without a single picture being taken (if there were pictures the cops would have released them by now, if for no other reason than to save their own asses - it's been a month) of either his "injuries" or the alleged blood and grass stained clothing.

Right.

Don't dislocate your shoulder reaching for that conclusion, dude.
/Occam's razor
 
2012-03-29 01:39:54 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Dude...you have some real White Guilt issues.


Why would I have white guilt? My mom was Ukrainian, I don't think they had slaves.

Is that some kind of cartoony right-wing thing? I don't have any guilt, but I do understand that black people have been horrifically wronged by cowardly right-wingers over the centuries, so I'm not so dumb or college footbally to pretend it's not real today.

It's called being a decent person instead of a little political football fan. You should try it someday, but you don't strike me as a very good person.
 
2012-03-29 01:41:00 AM

9beers: Confabulat: No, but I do see a person making excuses for him being shot dead. Which makes you a lousy human being.

I'm giving my opinion based on the facts, an eyewitness and the fact that he hasn't been arrested even though this case has been under investigation for a month now. You want to stick a guy in jail based on nothing but speculations and a desire to follow the mob. Yes, I'm the lousy human being. Keep telling yourself that, Skippy.


He shot and killed an unarmed kid after following him around for no reason. You think that's normal behavior. You are a danger to my world.
 
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