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(ABC)   George Zimmerman on video after the shooting. Funny, those massive head injuries seem to have healed fast, and where's all the blood that should have stained his shirt from shooting someone who was on top of him?   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 1167
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2012-03-29 12:31:52 AM

CliChe Guevara: There seems to now be doubt about whether zimmerman was even truly attacked, but lets say for a minute he was; lets say just for the sake of argument when he confronted Martin, Martin actually did attack him and 'tried to get his gun away' from Zimmerman like Zimmerman claims. Doesn't Floridas 'stand you ground' law clearly apply here - to Martin? He tried to avoid a situation, was pursued, and then confronted by an unknown and openly hostile man with a gun who had been following him. Martin had the right to self -defense, to 'stand his ground' and not retreat (even though he had clearly tried to do so). so even if he did hit Zimmerman, wasn't that his right under law to do so?

Do only white people get the right to self-defense or something? I would say if someone was stalking you and cornered you and brandished a gun, you would think about defending yourself. even by his own words he did brandish the gun, or else he couldn't have made the claim Martin went for it. Why couldn't Martin? Because he was black?


Black people are not allowed to stand their ground.
 
2012-03-29 12:32:23 AM

9beers: osafer: Link (new window)

What white privilege may look like.

Obviously the white dudes fault.


White privilege: the privilege to get robbed, raped, and murdered at a disproportionately high rate by African Americans.
 
2012-03-29 12:32:37 AM

osafer: Link (new window)

What white privilege may look like.



Yep, some thugs beat up a white dude. That totally negates the well-documented fact that white people have better access to education, jobs, homes, and virtually all business services... and about the only thing that black people have better access to is the criminal justice system.

I'm sure you'd positively leap at the chance to be black. It's such a sweet gig compared to the horrible oppression we white people are forced to face.
 
2012-03-29 12:33:11 AM

Tatterdemalian: MFAWG: I think the law in Florida says different. I really, really do. I remember reading it the other day, and thinking how sensible it seemed.

Go test it, and let us know what happened.

/if nothing else, it'd be a cool story bro

2011 Florida Statutes CHAPTER 776 JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE[17]

776.012Use of force in defense of person.-A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:

(1)He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or


Stomping starts to sound like a reasonable reaction if I believe that the person who followed me into a poorly lit, isolated area is up to no good, which seems reasonable since he followed into a poorly lit, isolated area.

Here's the part I think people might have a problem with in THIS case:

776.041Use of force by aggressor. -The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:

(1)Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or

(2)Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:

(a)Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b)In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force
.
 
2012-03-29 12:33:48 AM

osafer: Link (new window)

What white privilege may look like.


They were just standing their ground. They felt like he was chasing him (what there's no evidence of him chasing them? No bother).
 
2012-03-29 12:34:31 AM

osafer: Link (new window)

What white privilege may look like.


What was he doing walking around all suspicious-like?

Clearly those men were simply neighborhood-watch captains standing their ground because they felt threatened.
 
2012-03-29 12:34:32 AM

I Browse: ...eventually. At some point. Perhaps.


A white person gets killed in the name of Treyvon Martin followed by a retaliation killing of a black person and we're going to have an all out race war. Never mind the fact that Zimmerman isn't white, all that matters is that he's not black.
 
2012-03-29 12:34:44 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Rincewind53: osafer: And on a side note shove you f-ing white privilege up your ass, I came from nothing and earned everything I have no one gave me anything, I refuse to feel guilt over some made up term as white privilege

Good for you (not even going to address your "no one gave me anything" comment). And if you'd been black, it would have been much, much harder for you earn everything you did. Contrary to what you think, having "white privilege" doesn't mean "successful and rich," it means "things are easier for the average white person than the average black person."

And the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person. I can demonstrate mine with empirical evidence, though I'm sure you can too.


And you don't think the fact that the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person is related to the fact that things in life are easier for the average white person than the average black person?

What point are you trying to make?
 
2012-03-29 12:35:41 AM

osafer: And on a side note shove you f-ing white privilege up your ass, I came from nothing and earned everything I have no one gave me anything, I refuse to feel guilt over some made up term as white privilege


White privilege is when someone doesn't chase and shoot you because of your skin color.
i.e. no one gave you a bullet
 
2012-03-29 12:36:06 AM

CliChe Guevara:

Martin had the right to self -defense, to 'stand his ground' and not retreat (even though he had clearly tried to do so). so even if he did hit Zimmerman, wasn't that his right under law to do so?


www.toledoblade.com

Martin may have had the RIGHT to defend himself but what he lacked was the ability.


Creepy stalker guy with a gun keeps following you so you walk uo to him and punch him ? You better believe that's a Darwining.
 
2012-03-29 12:36:45 AM
There are two ways blood could be on Zim's clothing. Zim's own blood from his supposedly broken nose or lacerated scalp. Or from the gunshot wound to Trayvon Martin.
I find it strange that if Zim got a broken nose and a lacerated scalp requiring stitches, there wasn't some blood on his shirt/jacket. It would have taken several minutes for Emergency Medical Services to arrive at the scene and probably several more minutes before they moved attention from the dying or dead Trayvon Martin to Zimmerman. That would equal several minutes of brisk bleeding from those wounds running down Zim's face and neck. EMT's could have washed up Zim with Peroxide and Saline and stopped his bleeding (who knows how much time passed before the Police Station Garage Video was shot). I would expect to see some Zim blood on his clothing if he was assaulted as he seems to be reporting. Also, any medical personnel who cared for Zim would have documented all aspects of the care rendered. They would describe any wounds seen and what treatment was given. Bleeding would have been noted. Those medical personnel would be available for further testamoney if needed. So, it can be established whether or not Zim was injured during the encounter with Trayvon Martin. The nature of his injuries (if any) are already a matter of record in his medical information.
 
2012-03-29 12:37:37 AM
There is no evidence ZImmerman chased anyone beyond this point. He thinks Treyvon got away until the very end of the call he gets suspicious and doesn't want to give his address out.

Remember though that Martin is still talking on the phone with his girlfriend right up until the encounter. Both of them think they have lost each other at some point, but if Martin is lying in ambush why is he talking on the phone? Why can't Zimmerman hear him?
 
2012-03-29 12:37:49 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: White privilege: the privilege to get robbed, raped, and murdered at a disproportionately high rate by African Americans.


So you are saying ...both sides are bad ... Vote republican
 
2012-03-29 12:38:06 AM

technicolor-misfit: osafer: Link (new window)

What white privilege may look like.


Yep, some thugs beat up a white dude. That totally negates the well-documented fact that white people have better access to education, jobs, homes, and virtually all business services... and about the only thing that black people have better access to is the criminal justice system.

I'm sure you'd positively leap at the chance to be black. It's such a sweet gig compared to the horrible oppression we white people are forced to face.


Unlike you I refuse to feel guilty for something I had nothing to do with or have no control over, I am not a racist, I do not discriminate, nor do I hate anyone for their race, sex, religion or sexual orientation.

So I restate my point shove your white guilt up your arse...
 
2012-03-29 12:38:25 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Rincewind53: osafer: And on a side note shove you f-ing white privilege up your ass, I came from nothing and earned everything I have no one gave me anything, I refuse to feel guilt over some made up term as white privilege

Good for you (not even going to address your "no one gave me anything" comment). And if you'd been black, it would have been much, much harder for you earn everything you did. Contrary to what you think, having "white privilege" doesn't mean "successful and rich," it means "things are easier for the average white person than the average black person."

And the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person. I can demonstrate mine with empirical evidence, though I'm sure you can too.

And you don't think the fact that the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person is related to the fact that things in life are easier for the average white person than the average black person?

What point are you trying to make?


Even at the same socioeconomic level, people of European descent are less prone to violence and crime than people of African descent. I'm willing to overlook this fact in everyday life, as I do, but I think it warrants being trotted out whenever some moron starts going on about "white privilege."
 
2012-03-29 12:38:30 AM
Oh, boy, somebody mentioned "race war." I think I've seen that tattooed on some skinheads somewhere - they seem to love that concept.
 
2012-03-29 12:39:21 AM

technicolor-misfit: osafer: Link (new window)

What white privilege may look like.


Yep, some thugs beat up a white dude. That totally negates the well-documented fact that white people have better access to education, jobs, homes, and virtually all business services... and about the only thing that black people have better access to is the criminal justice system.

I'm sure you'd positively leap at the chance to be black. It's such a sweet gig compared to the horrible oppression we white people are forced to face.


White people have it so rough don't they?

/White
 
2012-03-29 12:39:48 AM
I bet Zimmerman isn't even in this country legally. His real name is probably Pablo Tequila. I bet he stole this white man's ID do he could do this as a white man.


Heck. He probably used a gun he bought from Eric Holder. It would explain why he's being protected...hiding for his life and all.
 
2012-03-29 12:39:55 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Rincewind53: osafer: And on a side note shove you f-ing white privilege up your ass, I came from nothing and earned everything I have no one gave me anything, I refuse to feel guilt over some made up term as white privilege

Good for you (not even going to address your "no one gave me anything" comment). And if you'd been black, it would have been much, much harder for you earn everything you did. Contrary to what you think, having "white privilege" doesn't mean "successful and rich," it means "things are easier for the average white person than the average black person."

And the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person. I can demonstrate mine with empirical evidence, though I'm sure you can too.

And you don't think the fact that the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person is related to the fact that things in life are easier for the average white person than the average black person?

What point are you trying to make?

Even at the same socioeconomic level, people of European descent are less prone to violence and crime than people of African descent. I'm willing to overlook this fact in everyday life, as I do, but I think it warrants being trotted out whenever some moron starts going on about "white privilege."


How many World Wars did Africa start again?
 
2012-03-29 12:41:09 AM

osafer: Unlike you I refuse to feel guilty for something I had nothing to do with or have no control over, I am not a racist, I do not discriminate, nor do I hate anyone for their race, sex, religion or sexual orientation.


And yet you continuously use the phrase "white guilt" unironically. I call bullshiat.
 
2012-03-29 12:41:17 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: If you were walking in a neighborhood at night while wearing a hoodie and eating skittles, do you think that some gun-ho overzealous vigilante watchdog would start stalking you in his car and accusing you of being a criminal?


Martin may have simply overreacted to being followed. Maybe he thought Zimmerman saw him steal the Skittles.
 
2012-03-29 12:41:52 AM

SN1987a goes boom: How many World Wars did Africa start again?


They bombed Pearl Harbor, asshole.
 
2012-03-29 12:41:53 AM

9beers: I Browse: ...eventually. At some point. Perhaps.

A white person gets killed in the name of Treyvon Martin followed by a retaliation killing of a black person and we're going to have an all out race war. Never mind the fact that Zimmerman isn't white, all that matters is that he's not black.



The issue was never about the fact that Zimmerman was white. The issue was about the fact that he wasn't arrested or charged or tried... as he almost assuredly would have been had Trayvon Martin been a white kid.

IT was never about what horrible awful people white folks were. It was about the lack of concern and consideration Trayvon Martin received from authorities.

The ONLY people who ginned this up into a "race war" were butthurt conservatives who can't bear to not be the victim of absolutely farking EVERYTHING and felt horribly horribly put upon that anyone cared about the fact that an unarmed black kid was gunned down in the street and the killer simply walked free.

Because obviously caring about whether or not someone is tried for killing an unarmed black kid is the real racism.
 
2012-03-29 12:42:00 AM

SN1987a goes boom: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Rincewind53: osafer: And on a side note shove you f-ing white privilege up your ass, I came from nothing and earned everything I have no one gave me anything, I refuse to feel guilt over some made up term as white privilege

Good for you (not even going to address your "no one gave me anything" comment). And if you'd been black, it would have been much, much harder for you earn everything you did. Contrary to what you think, having "white privilege" doesn't mean "successful and rich," it means "things are easier for the average white person than the average black person."

And the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person. I can demonstrate mine with empirical evidence, though I'm sure you can too.

And you don't think the fact that the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person is related to the fact that things in life are easier for the average white person than the average black person?

What point are you trying to make?

Even at the same socioeconomic level, people of European descent are less prone to violence and crime than people of African descent. I'm willing to overlook this fact in everyday life, as I do, but I think it warrants being trotted out whenever some moron starts going on about "white privilege."

How many World Wars did Africa start again?


Link (new window)

Plenty!
 
2012-03-29 12:42:23 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Even at the same socioeconomic level, people of European descent are less prone to violence and crime than people of African descent


Oh my...any source that isn't linked to a white supremacist blog?
 
2012-03-29 12:42:56 AM
Videos are often unreliabel for clearly showing injuries. Many wounds, bruising simply do not show up or stand out, unless the video is deliberately used to document thos injuries, up close, in high resolution.

The media knows this..but they don't care. They want to make a martyr out of this kid. Most of the zombies following MSNBC and many other sources think Martin was a scrawny 12 year old, and Zimmerman a KKK-robe wearing pure-anglo racist who wandered the streets shooting at minorities.

From the limited descriptions of eye witnesses, the self defense case is plausible. Zimmerman was attacked, after he stopped following Martin. Martin returned..he did not stand ground, he moved into position, and initiated the assault. Zimmerman defended himself. This is according to witness testimony, not claims of a people not there, or who saw the scene after the fact but from actual witnesses.

But hey, just remember, the media is always right from the start. Just ask those Duke lacrosse players.
 
2012-03-29 12:43:24 AM

Tatterdemalian: I've been followed by people in a car, and I've followed some kids that I saw dropping bricks off an overpass in my car.


How did they get in your car?
 
2012-03-29 12:43:45 AM

RexTalionis: Oh, boy, somebody mentioned "race war." I think I've seen that tattooed on some skinheads somewhere - they seem to love that concept.


Somebody's already calling for a race war. Hint, it ain't whitey. Link (new window)
 
2012-03-29 12:44:23 AM

SN1987a goes boom: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Rincewind53: osafer: And on a side note shove you f-ing white privilege up your ass, I came from nothing and earned everything I have no one gave me anything, I refuse to feel guilt over some made up term as white privilege

Good for you (not even going to address your "no one gave me anything" comment). And if you'd been black, it would have been much, much harder for you earn everything you did. Contrary to what you think, having "white privilege" doesn't mean "successful and rich," it means "things are easier for the average white person than the average black person."

And the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person. I can demonstrate mine with empirical evidence, though I'm sure you can too.

And you don't think the fact that the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person is related to the fact that things in life are easier for the average white person than the average black person?

What point are you trying to make?

Even at the same socioeconomic level, people of European descent are less prone to violence and crime than people of African descent. I'm willing to overlook this fact in everyday life, as I do, but I think it warrants being trotted out whenever some moron starts going on about "white privilege."

How many World Wars did Africa start again?


None, yet the body count of their intra-continental wars dwarfs that of both of Europe's world wars combined.
 
2012-03-29 12:44:55 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: osafer: Unlike you I refuse to feel guilty for something I had nothing to do with or have no control over, I am not a racist, I do not discriminate, nor do I hate anyone for their race, sex, religion or sexual orientation.

And yet you continuously use the phrase "white guilt" unironically. I call bullshiat.


I knew this was coming, typical lib defense. I know I am racist, stupid or whatever.... I have made my points, agree or don't, I don't give a flying fark,,,
 
2012-03-29 12:45:29 AM

osafer: Unlike you I refuse to feel guilty for something I had nothing to do with or have no control over, I am not a racist, I do not discriminate, nor do I hate anyone for their race, sex, religion or sexual orientation.

So I restate my point shove your white guilt up your arse...


And fark the handicapped too! It's not MY fault that they have problems.

I GOT MINE! SO fark YOU ALL!

amidoinitright?

You're an asshole.
 
2012-03-29 12:45:48 AM

osafer: SN1987a goes boom: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Rincewind53: osafer: And on a side note shove you f-ing white privilege up your ass, I came from nothing and earned everything I have no one gave me anything, I refuse to feel guilt over some made up term as white privilege

Good for you (not even going to address your "no one gave me anything" comment). And if you'd been black, it would have been much, much harder for you earn everything you did. Contrary to what you think, having "white privilege" doesn't mean "successful and rich," it means "things are easier for the average white person than the average black person."

And the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person. I can demonstrate mine with empirical evidence, though I'm sure you can too.

And you don't think the fact that the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person is related to the fact that things in life are easier for the average white person than the average black person?

What point are you trying to make?

Even at the same socioeconomic level, people of European descent are less prone to violence and crime than people of African descent. I'm willing to overlook this fact in everyday life, as I do, but I think it warrants being trotted out whenever some moron starts going on about "white privilege."

How many World Wars did Africa start again?

Link (new window)

Plenty!


[inigomontoya.jpg]

Also, for someone who claims to be 100% colorblind non-racist, you sure seem eager to keep pointing out ways you think Africans/blacks are bad and how unfairly whites are treated. Wouldn't a truly non-discriminatory person not care about all that and just label them all equally as "humans"?
 
2012-03-29 12:46:53 AM

SithLord: You know, maybe perhaps Zimmerman received some on-scene medical treatment to fix the cuts on the back of his head and blood-stained clothes were removed for evidence and permitted to change before being taken into custody?

Blood-stained clothes are not going to be kept on a person for chance of evidence or sanitation purposes. Why would someone continue to wear blood-stained clothes for THEIR own and the cops own safety from bodily fluids.

But CSI: Fark has already decided Zimmerman is guilty.


CSI Fark is run out of Black Panther HQ in Detroit

Before his trip to the station, he was seen by paramedics. They would have treated any cuts and cleaned up excess blood on Zimmerman...regardless of whether being taken to hospital or not

Also, for someone who just shot someone at close range...Zimmerman apparently had zero blood and guts from Trayvon. You cap someone from that close, you will get splattered.

Of course, the Black Racist/White Guilt Apologists will have some clever explanation for the lack of Trayvon guts and goo on Zimm. Maybe they can get Spike Lee to "adress" this
 
2012-03-29 12:47:02 AM
Just like everyone else, Fark can't discuss this without absolutes.
 
2012-03-29 12:47:04 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Rincewind53: osafer: And on a side note shove you f-ing white privilege up your ass, I came from nothing and earned everything I have no one gave me anything, I refuse to feel guilt over some made up term as white privilege

Good for you (not even going to address your "no one gave me anything" comment). And if you'd been black, it would have been much, much harder for you earn everything you did. Contrary to what you think, having "white privilege" doesn't mean "successful and rich," it means "things are easier for the average white person than the average black person."

And the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person. I can demonstrate mine with empirical evidence, though I'm sure you can too.

And you don't think the fact that the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person is related to the fact that things in life are easier for the average white person than the average black person?

What point are you trying to make?

Even at the same socioeconomic level, people of European descent are less prone to violence and crime than people of African descent. I'm willing to overlook this fact in everyday life, as I do, but I think it warrants being trotted out whenever some moron starts going on about "white privilege."


I don't read here that much, but I know your handle, and I never knew you were such a racist piece of crap until this thread. So... thanks for enlightening me about that.
 
2012-03-29 12:47:47 AM

furiousxgeorge: There is no evidence ZImmerman chased anyone beyond this point. He thinks Treyvon got away until the very end of the call he gets suspicious and doesn't want to give his address out.

Remember though that Martin is still talking on the phone with his girlfriend right up until the encounter. Both of them think they have lost each other at some point, but if Martin is lying in ambush why is he talking on the phone? Why can't Zimmerman hear him?


This is minutia, Martin knows where Zimmerman is. Zimmerman doesn't know where Martin is. And Zimmerman is talking with a phone to his ear to distract him from whispers or rustlings in the bushes 10-20 feet away.

I'm not saying i know who initiated the altercation. But the idea that Zimmerman hung up the phone and chased down Martin is completely false based on what we can gather from the 911 call and the geography of the area. Everything that Zimmerman did was justified based on the dispatchers handling of the situation. You can say it was wrong for him to get out of the car to try to observe Martin, and you might be correct, but he was clearly trying to observe Martin. He had every legal right to do that, and no, that doesn't justify attacking somebody in some theoretical self defense from being followed or observed.
 
2012-03-29 12:48:09 AM

Alleyoop: the_vegetarian_cannibal: If you were walking in a neighborhood at night while wearing a hoodie and eating skittles, do you think that some gun-ho overzealous vigilante watchdog would start stalking you in his car and accusing you of being a criminal?

Martin may have simply overreacted to being followed. Maybe he thought Zimmerman saw him steal the Skittles.


Oooo, excellent troll, sir. I like the subtlety and dog-whistleyness of it. Sadly, you probably won't get too many bites for it. 9beers and osafer have already worked this thread for all its worth. Better luck next time.
 
2012-03-29 12:48:37 AM

osafer: technicolor-misfit: osafer: Link (new window)

What white privilege may look like.


Yep, some thugs beat up a white dude. That totally negates the well-documented fact that white people have better access to education, jobs, homes, and virtually all business services... and about the only thing that black people have better access to is the criminal justice system.

I'm sure you'd positively leap at the chance to be black. It's such a sweet gig compared to the horrible oppression we white people are forced to face.

Unlike you I refuse to feel guilty for something I had nothing to do with or have no control over, I am not a racist, I do not discriminate, nor do I hate anyone for their race, sex, religion or sexual orientation.

So I restate my point shove your white guilt up your arse...



Who said I feel guilt? Who said you should feel guilt? I'm just saying don't be a farking liar and pretend it doesn't exist so you can get your vagina all aquiver and play the victim.

It's not white guilt to believe that the killing of an unarmed kid should be thoroughly investigated and the shooter (barring very extreme and undeniably clear-cut circumstances) be charged and tried... It's basic human decency and regard for justice.
 
2012-03-29 12:48:38 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: White Guilt


Anyone who uses that term, is more likely than not a racist.
 
2012-03-29 12:49:58 AM

Internet Meme Rogers: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Rincewind53: osafer: And on a side note shove you f-ing white privilege up your ass, I came from nothing and earned everything I have no one gave me anything, I refuse to feel guilt over some made up term as white privilege

Good for you (not even going to address your "no one gave me anything" comment). And if you'd been black, it would have been much, much harder for you earn everything you did. Contrary to what you think, having "white privilege" doesn't mean "successful and rich," it means "things are easier for the average white person than the average black person."

And the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person. I can demonstrate mine with empirical evidence, though I'm sure you can too.

And you don't think the fact that the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person is related to the fact that things in life are easier for the average white person than the average black person?

What point are you trying to make?

Even at the same socioeconomic level, people of European descent are less prone to violence and crime than people of African descent. I'm willing to overlook this fact in everyday life, as I do, but I think it warrants being trotted out whenever some moron starts going on about "white privilege."

I don't read here that much, but I know your handle, and I never knew you were such a racist piece of crap until this thread. So... thanks for enlightening me about that.


I'm honestly not racist.
 
2012-03-29 12:50:16 AM

Without Fail: osafer: Unlike you I refuse to feel guilty for something I had nothing to do with or have no control over, I am not a racist, I do not discriminate, nor do I hate anyone for their race, sex, religion or sexual orientation.

So I restate my point shove your white guilt up your arse...

And fark the handicapped too! It's not MY fault that they have problems.

I GOT MINE! SO fark YOU ALL!

amidoinitright?

You're an asshole.


Holy shiat, I am supposed to feel guilty because I have working legs? You people are ridiculous with your guilt, you guys must be on a hella lot of antidepressants, to even get out of bed in the morning.
 
2012-03-29 12:50:39 AM

I_C_Weener: Just like everyone else, Fark can't discuss this without absolutes.


No, I operate on gradients:

www.bitlogic.com
 
2012-03-29 12:50:40 AM

theflatline: I got my nose broken in a fight, i popped it back into place, and it really didnt look any different until the next day.


Had my nose broken in an incident years ago. Did not know it was broken until the doctor touched the bridge of it. It was not swollen or misshaped...but the doctor let me know it was broke quite well
 
2012-03-29 12:50:44 AM

9beers: RexTalionis: Oh, boy, somebody mentioned "race war." I think I've seen that tattooed on some skinheads somewhere - they seem to love that concept.

Somebody's already calling for a race war. Hint, it ain't whitey. Link (new window)


Another significant religious cult is the Church of the Creator, founded in 1973. Its members believe they are engaged in a racial holy war (RAHOWA) between the "pure" Aryan race and the "mud races." Adherents are frequently in the headlines for their violence. In 1993, members were arrested by the FBI as part of the Fourth Reich Skinheads who attempted to bomb First AME Church in Los Angeles and assassinate LA motorist Rodney King. Members have also been arrested in numerous murders, violent assaults, and bank robberies across the nation. They believe that they can precipitate the race war by provoking a violent response with attacks upon Jews and people of color. --- Source

Got you beat.
 
2012-03-29 12:52:05 AM
Can we just go back to every white man, woman, and baby fearing for their life from some black degenerate taught that Whitey is the reason they're a historical subjugated people? I feel so much more unsafe now.
 
2012-03-29 12:52:08 AM

osafer: the_vegetarian_cannibal: osafer: Unlike you I refuse to feel guilty for something I had nothing to do with or have no control over, I am not a racist, I do not discriminate, nor do I hate anyone for their race, sex, religion or sexual orientation.

And yet you continuously use the phrase "white guilt" unironically. I call bullshiat.

I knew this was coming, typical lib defense. I know I am racist, stupid or whatever.... I have made my points, agree or don't, I don't give a flying fark,,,


And yet you get so offended when people call you out on it. Are you sure there's not something you want to talk about? Are you pent up with fury that badly from things that you are too cowardly to say in public so you have to rage about it on Fark?

i.imgur.com

I, on the other hand, am factually and certifiably not a racist because I do not have this so-called "white guilt."
 
2012-03-29 12:52:25 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: osafer: SN1987a goes boom: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Rincewind53: osafer: And on a side note shove you f-ing white privilege up your ass, I came from nothing and earned everything I have no one gave me anything, I refuse to feel guilt over some made up term as white privilege

Good for you (not even going to address your "no one gave me anything" comment). And if you'd been black, it would have been much, much harder for you earn everything you did. Contrary to what you think, having "white privilege" doesn't mean "successful and rich," it means "things are easier for the average white person than the average black person."

And the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person. I can demonstrate mine with empirical evidence, though I'm sure you can too.

And you don't think the fact that the average black person is more likely to commit violent crime than the average white person is related to the fact that things in life are easier for the average white person than the average black person?

What point are you trying to make?

Even at the same socioeconomic level, people of European descent are less prone to violence and crime than people of African descent. I'm willing to overlook this fact in everyday life, as I do, but I think it warrants being trotted out whenever some moron starts going on about "white privilege."

How many World Wars did Africa start again?

Link (new window)

Plenty!

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Also, for someone who claims to be 100% colorblind non-racist, you sure seem eager to keep pointing out ways you think Africans/blacks are bad and how unfairly whites are treated. Wouldn't a truly non-discriminatory person not care about all that and just label them all equally as "humans"?


Point out one racist thing I said in this tread, look above, I was the one trying to argue the point this was not white vs black. It is the libs that are trying to paint this as a racial issue,
 
2012-03-29 12:52:31 AM
White pride.
 
2012-03-29 12:52:59 AM
What Zimmerman saw:

i1222.photobucket.com

What Trayvon saw:

i1222.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-29 12:53:20 AM
He was white enough to stand his ground but dark enough to hide the bruises. He is the perfect man.
 
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