NeoCortex42: I still can't understand why he hasn't been arrested. He's recorded on the 911 call as saying he's in his car following the kid. He's told not to do that. The fact that he even ends up outside his car near the kid in a position to feel "threatened" means he put himself there. That should be all it takes to remove the Stand Your Ground defense.

My guess: the cops think that if they make this as drawn out as possible the can pretend this was a hard decision, thus covering their asses for the lawsuit over the cops thinking nobody cares if a black kid dies. If they turned around the next day and said "yeah, that was obvious" they're providing evidence to back that up.

This way they can say "after much investigation, we pulled apart the finely-crafted lie that fooled us initially and found the truth", when the truth is really "fark, we figured nobody would have cared about another dead n... er, African American".

I Said: jso2897: I Said: I enhanced the image. There is clearly a conspiracy in this story that involves the media and black people.

Link (new window)

I have a sneaking suspicion that you might run around, and hurt me.

lol. Nah, no video or audio. Just some CSI stuff.

Glad you got me to check that out. That's some heavy shiat, man.

As at least one other person said above, whatever else happened/happens, I'm glad to learn that he was actually taken into custody and not just questioned at the scene and sent on his merry way.

Dinki: OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: He was wearing a red sweater according to the witness statement. I imagine he took it off because it was dirty from being ambushed by a crazy burglar kid. Of course you don't care enough to read the official police report like I did.

Um, no. The police report clearly says Zimmerman was wearing a red jacket, just like in the video. I'm sorry you have such poor reading ability.

Hey, come on. He was so proud he had read the official police report, ALL BY HIMSELF. Let's let him have his moment.

meathome: The Great EZE: But seriously, how much clout does this not-even-a-rent-a-cop have around the neighborhood that "witnesses" are willing to lie for him? A dead black kid in your nice little gated community is one thing. A neighborhood of people conspiring to help the killer is a whole new level of unsavory.

I haven't seen the video, but THIS.

And that also goes against some of the items observed by police and leaked in the report yesterday, which is damn interesting...

That said, I'm seeing what looks life the aftermath of a good shot to the nose in some of those pics. Might be the resolution of the camera, might be the lighting, or it might be what Zimmerman's lawyer has claimed.

The official police report, and that from any EMTs on scene will pretty much put this to rest.

/grabs popcorn, because no matter what they can prove, it seems the other side will have a reason that fits their narrative instead

Looks like hemorrhoids too poor guy.

/Great video, Brah.

A. Snatchfold: Some of the witnesses who heard the screaming, yes.

Is that an Earwitness or an Eyewitness? Which would you prefer to believe? Imagine a random hypothetical story to take yourself out of the moment for just a second... The earwitness, or the eyewitness?

A. Snatchfold: Is anybody even attempting to claim it was Treyvon screaming for help?

Not Trayvon's father: Bonus: explains that prosecutors declined the case. (new window)

Nope, the media is not race baiting. Not at all.

/If the shooter was black, nobody would care.
//FARK those walrus pictures.

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Altitude5280: Not a drop of blood on that white shirt.

He was wearing a red sweater according to the witness statement. I imagine he took it off because it was dirty from being ambushed by a crazy burglar kid. Of course you don't care enough to read the official police report like I did. Or the other reports written about that night. The racist lefts story has already fallen apart. I'm just waiting for the press report where they say no charges will be filed.

Are you having difficulty seeing the red vest in the video that was described by the witnesses.

Shostie: [imgace.com image 400x473]

I'm going to Hell for laughing at this, right?


I chuckled out loud...

itazurakko: Exactly. That's all anyone is asking for. A trial, with people under oath.

You don't have trials until people are charged with a crime.

People aren't charged with a crime unless there's evidence that one was committed.

Seriously, how hard is that to understand for some of you? The Sanford PD conducted a two week investigation and at no point did they find any evidence that warranted charges. They then turned it over to the State Attorney's office and still, no evidence exists that warrant charges. There is now another investigation going on and they've found no evidence to warrant charges.

Hey you know what, maybe there wasn't a crime here after all.

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Altitude5280: Not a drop of blood on that white shirt.

He was wearing a red sweater according to the witness statement. I imagine he took it off because it was dirty from being ambushed by a crazy burglar kid. Of course you don't care enough to read the official police report like I did. Or the other reports written about that night. The racist lefts story has already fallen apart. I'm just waiting for the press report where they say no charges will be filed.

I'm sure that sweater is in evidence then. Amiright?

OK, explain to me you farkers. I watched the video and saw the quality. Can you really say you saw all the details to make your comments? How long is his hair? 1/4 inch or twice as long at 1/2 inch? What color are his eyes? Are you able to tell if he might have a black eye? Is there a cut on his eyebrow or is that just a shadow? If a police officer or he himself had swabbed his wound could you still see his cuts? What does a broken nose look like on grainy video? My son had a broken nose and there was a bump and nothing else. If you saw this guy at at Quick Trip, would you be able to really recognize him? I am not saying he is innocent or guilty but I am saying that the comments here on either side are basically trolls. So attack me.

bigbadideasinaction: NeoCortex42: I still can't understand why he hasn't been arrested. He's recorded on the 911 call as saying he's in his car following the kid. He's told not to do that. The fact that he even ends up outside his car near the kid in a position to feel "threatened" means he put himself there. That should be all it takes to remove the Stand Your Ground defense.

My guess: the cops think that if they make this as drawn out as possible the can pretend this was a hard decision, thus covering their asses for the lawsuit over the cops thinking nobody cares if a black kid dies. If they turned around the next day and said "yeah, that was obvious" they're providing evidence to back that up.

This way they can say "after much investigation, we pulled apart the finely-crafted lie that fooled us initially and found the truth", when the truth is really "fark, we figured nobody would have cared about another dead n... er, African American".

Guess again. The authority to prosecute went from the city to the state a long time ago and has changed hands many times under federal oversight. It's going to a grand jury to decide if there is evidence for a trial because nobody is going to risk prosecuting.

This video? Big news to us? They knew about it the night of the shooting.

Daraymann:
/If the shooter was black, nobody would care.


If the shooter was black he would be in jail or a morgue. The police don't fark about when its an armed black man. I mean are you seriously suggesting that if Martin had shot Zimmerman dead he would have been let off without charge? really really?

Fireproof: Also whenever someone posts something like that, I try to ask them why they care about the media being biased toward not portraying Martin as a thug so much, because I can't think of any reason other than racism.

To be honest, I can: the "enemy of my enemy is my friend." Remember, as liberals became more and more repulsed by Sarah Palin, many conservatives embraced her even tighter - because "she pisses 'em off."

The majority of Zimmerman's "supporters" I've encountered don't actually know enough to support Zimmerman. They haven't followed the story that closely. But they see the world rallying around a 'liberal' cause and they react to it by latching onto anything that confirms their claims of media bias, like those photos.

Racism may be at work, but it's really the "us" versus "them" mentality that's most prevalent.

CallMeGomer: So attack me.

Are you wearing a hoodie?

itazurakko: missiv: Someone named George Zimmerman needs to explain his facts in a courtroom of law, without others speaking for him. Trayvon's parents deserve to hear the facts, about how their son went to the store for candy and a soda, and ended up at the morgue. George is the only person who can explain it truthfully and fully.

Exactly. That's all anyone is asking for. A trial, with people under oath.

I agree too, but before there's a trial there needs to be an arrest, and before there's an arrest they need to do an investigation to determine what exactly they can arrest him for. If they do not do everything by the book it could ruin the whole process, which is why everyone needs to relax and let the system run it's course as opposed to foaming and the mouth and calling for the needle.

MorrisBird: Take a look at the law man,
beating up the wrong guy.
Oh, man, wonder if he'll ever know.
He's in the best selling show.
Is there life on Mars?

I am just a poor boy though my story's seldom told
I have squandered my resistance for a pocketful of mumbles, such are promises
All lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest

hourheroyes: Ace Rimmer: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Ace Rimmer: But, where are the grass stains?

This is my issue with the video. Unless we are to throw out two eyewitness testimonies that the two were scuffling in the grass, there is something off.

Didn't one of the police officers specifically say Zimmerman had grass stains on his back?

Video evidence tends to trump eyewitness evidence.

Right, just trying to figure out if they should be there or not.

geoduck42: As at least one other person said above, whatever else happened/happens, I'm glad to learn that he was actually taken into custody and not just questioned at the scene and sent on his merry way.

That makes me feel better about this whole thing too. Woo.

ElBarto79:
I agree too, but before there's a trial there needs to be an arrest, and before there's an arrest they need to do an investigation to determine what exactly they can arrest him for. If they do not do everything by the book it could ruin the whole process, which is why everyone needs to relax and let the system run it's course as opposed to foaming and the mouth and calling for the needle.

The system ran its course and they sent him home and told him it was fine to shoot the guy. Only because of the 'foaming at the mouth' is it now being re-investigated at all.

Oh man, fark is gonna totally crack this case wide open!

It took seconds of your time to take his life
It took seconds

For a second

ElBarto79: I agree too, but before there's a trial there needs to be an arrest, and before there's an arrest they need to do an investigation to determine what exactly they can arrest him for. If they do not do everything by the book it could ruin the whole process, which is why everyone needs to relax and let the system run it's course as opposed to foaming and the mouth and calling for the needle.

Granted. I suppose that's really the proper thing, but... more just to say, take the investigation seriously and stop with the "oh well, a kid is dead, but the guy who did it says it wasn't his fault and anyway we've found out the victim maybe wasn't a perfect angel so oh well good riddance."

I don't think people are clamoring for the needle (I don't support the death penalty anyway) but just a serious look into the case.

Which, hopefully, will happen now. If it makes people think twice about this "stand your ground" business too, all the better.

Daraymann: Nope, the media is not race baiting. Not at all.

/If the shooter was black, nobody would care.
//FARK those walrus pictures.

Look, I can't do anything about the picnic apes, but I can get you some hen fap if you want.

gaspode: Daraymann:
/If the shooter was black, nobody would care.


If the shooter was black he would be in jail or a morgue. The police don't fark about when its an armed black man. I mean are you seriously suggesting that if Martin had shot Zimmerman dead he would have been let off without charge? really really?

But the shooter was Mexican, so I guess they get a free pass now.

CallMeGomer: OK, explain to me you farkers. I watched the video and saw the quality. Can you really say you saw all the details to make your comments? How long is his hair? 1/4 inch or twice as long at 1/2 inch? What color are his eyes? Are you able to tell if he might have a black eye? Is there a cut on his eyebrow or is that just a shadow? If a police officer or he himself had swabbed his wound could you still see his cuts? What does a broken nose look like on grainy video? My son had a broken nose and there was a bump and nothing else. If you saw this guy at at Quick Trip, would you be able to really recognize him? I am not saying he is innocent or guilty but I am saying that the comments here on either side are basically trolls. So attack me.

Shot o' Belvedere Vodka first?

Checked the videos, and agree it's not good enough quality to see smaller details.

That said, if you shot somebody who was beating you up because "you feared for your life", I kind of expect a person to look worse than this, and have stuff wrong with him that would be more visible.

He's upright, walking well with out any gingerness, no bandages, no ripped clothing, he's got balance, nobody is helping him maintain balance, or helping him walk.

I saw worse messes in high school fistfights.

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Who's the liberal cumquat that keeps posting these stupid headlines?

Shaft!

/can you dig it?

gameshowhost: CrAz3D: grainy video that shows basically grainy grain-like grains. DEFINITELY proof of X.

Even though I knew ~some~ idiot was going to proclaim this, I just wanted to congratulate you for being the first idiot.

/also: 'watch stuff' in your lcd's native resolution so you can 'see stuff'

"I'm sure" that was the "problem".

Daraymann:
But the shooter was Mexican, so I guess they get a free pass now.

I did couch it in hyperbole, but as a serious question.. can you imagine that if the shooting had been the other way around that the kid would have been anything other than jail-bound?

gwenners: OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Who's the liberal cumquat that keeps posting these stupid headlines?

Shaft!

/can you dig it?

Shut yo mouth.

gaspode: I did couch it in hyperbole, but as a serious question.. can you imagine that if the shooting had been the other way around that the kid would have been anything other than jail-bound?

Exactly this too.

Heck, the kid is DEAD, and people are posting insinuations that surely he must have deserved this in one way or another, and that's death not even just jail.

That's what gets people upset.

Party Boy: [i.imgur.com image 500x375]

Nice catch. Could be an existing scar though. Film is "too grainy" to tell.

I don't see any evidence...

Oh that...too grainy. Can't tell by the video.