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(ABC)   George Zimmerman on video after the shooting. Funny, those massive head injuries seem to have healed fast, and where's all the blood that should have stained his shirt from shooting someone who was on top of him?   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 1167
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2012-03-28 10:57:23 PM

LeroyBourne: Why is he wearing Eddie Murphy's "Delirious" jacket?


Because his Thriller jacket was at the dry cleaners.
 
2012-03-28 10:57:40 PM
The only reason this is being discussed at all is the authority's reaction. If Zimmerman had been properly investigated and charged it would not have even become a national story.

Right now it is either a worldwide story about a killer being let off because the local authorities are racist assholes who just figured 'black kid who cares', or a worldwide story about a killer being let off because florida has an evil and insane set of laws. Those two options are both not pretty.
 
2012-03-28 10:57:40 PM

ChuDogg: [i43.tinypic.com image 640x313]

Anybody else see this?


Maybe he tripped and fell, right after he killed an unarmed teenager that he had chased and confronted against the advice of a police dispatcher.
 
2012-03-28 10:57:43 PM

noneyourbase: Mrtraveler01: The Great EZE: I want Zimmerman to go on trial just to see if his lawyers will use the "LOOK OVER THERE!" defense like so many of our Outraged Zimmerman Defenders right now.

I don't know. It's hard to top their "he's not racist, his friends are black" defense.

It's like playing soccer with angry five year olds. First they move the goal posts, then they want to play another game.


FTFM
 
2012-03-28 10:58:27 PM

MFAWG: One Bad Apple: On a semi serious note why isn't the cop shop footage time stamped ?

That's an interesting question. Because the less information the public has, the better off everyone is would be one guess.


If you look closely at about 1/3 of the way into the video, you can see a gray strip of text bouncing in and out of the bottom of the frame, which ABC (or someone) cut off. I'd be willing to bet it's data that includes timestamp.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-03-28 10:58:35 PM

ChuDogg: [i43.tinypic.com image 640x313]

Anybody else see this?


He can be the poster boy for the NRA *and* Propecia?
 
2012-03-28 10:58:36 PM
The grainy freeze-frames are awesome. You get a better view of any grainy video by watching it in motion. Still, for all the claims that this one is "grainy," the resolution isn't bad at all.

Good news for Zimmerman, though, is that he can sell his forehead skin on eBay to cover his quality legal defense fund.
 
2012-03-28 10:58:40 PM

kombat_unit: Fade2black: Funny, 2 black kids in Ohio killed a white kid on Saturday, and we're still in this liberal biatch-fest about a mexican killing a black kid.

At least we have our media driven racism in the proper priority.

It's not racist when a minority does it. It's business or societal ills.


i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
 
2012-03-28 10:59:24 PM

100 Watt Walrus: MFAWG: One Bad Apple: On a semi serious note why isn't the cop shop footage time stamped ?

That's an interesting question. Because the less information the public has, the better off everyone is would be one guess.

If you look closely at about 1/3 of the way into the video, you can see a gray strip of text bouncing in and out of the bottom of the frame, which ABC (or someone) cut off. I'd be willing to bet it's data that includes timestamp.

[i.imgur.com image 640x389]


I'm actually curious how the video leaked to the press as well.
 
2012-03-28 10:59:26 PM

kombat_unit: Fade2black: Funny, 2 black kids in Ohio killed a white kid on Saturday, and we're still in this liberal biatch-fest about a mexican killing a black kid.

At least we have our media driven racism in the proper priority.

It's not racist when a minority does it. It's business or societal ills.


No, if this were business there would be tax cuts.
 
2012-03-28 10:59:30 PM

The Great EZE: I want Zimmerman to go on trial just to see if his lawyers will use the "LOOK OVER THERE!" defense like so many of our Outraged Zimmerman Defenders right now.


Well its easier for the defense to object in court due to speculation then it is to object on Fark due to specualtion.

Grainy videos, semantics over what a 911 operator said, at first people were all like ZIMMERMAN WASN"T EVEN QUESTIONED BY POLICE yet now we see him in a video being led away in cuffs to be interviewed.....not to mention confirmation bias on both sides.

theres holes in both sides of the story now I'm just gonna make fun of people and wait till the GJ says something.
 
2012-03-28 10:59:44 PM

9beers: jso2897: You aren't a very good writer - your sentences just don't "pop".

Thanks man, I've always known that my writing skills suck. :(


Also, you are full of poop. I saw the story about the kids raiding the store twice on the evening news tonight - and I live in California. In the second hour I watched, it was the ONLY Martin/Zimmerman related story that ran.
The story was on Yahoo frontpage. It is being covered
 
2012-03-28 10:59:46 PM

ChuDogg: Looks like a giant welt to me.


On Zimmerman's forehead?

MAH GAWD KING MARTIN JUST PILEDROVE ZIMMERMAN INTO THE CONCRETE! STAWP THE DAHMN MATCH!

WAIT! THAT'S BERNIE GOETZ'S MUSIC!
 
2012-03-28 10:59:49 PM

jso2897: What do you mean? You're talking about it right now - though I can't say you're making it very interesting. You aren't a very good writer - your sentences just don't "pop". Maybe you should try to break the ice with a little humor.


So a young black guy walks into a gated neighborhood, and the other guys says to him "What do you think this is, a joke?" Then he shoots him.

/I know, needs work
 
2012-03-28 10:59:58 PM

mc_madness: 9beers: So why aren't we talking about the dozens of black teens that looted a Miami Walgreens today in what they called a "Treyvon Martin protest"? You know, I haven't even seen this reported on TV today, why do you think that is?

If Obama had 100 children they'd look like THIS


"National News Channel"? NATIONAL NEWS CHANNEL??? LOL!

Maybe for his next post, Christmas Troll 9beers should bring up David Duke's opinion on this matter and demand why it isn't being given credence in the media.
 
2012-03-28 11:00:06 PM

ElBarto79: Worksucks370: Here's my question. Why does it matter if he was attacked or not? Are you telling me that, in Florida, if I'm being followed and chased by a large man,with a gun, and approaches me. I then defend myself with my fists, and he shoots and kills me, that he is innocent of all charges and it's my fault.

I honestly just can't see how anyone can defend zimmerman here... i've been truly trying, but I just can't see it what so ever.

The gun was concealed. According to Zimmerman he was heading back to his car when Martin approached him and asked him why he was following him. This seems to be backed up by Martins girlfriend who was on the phone and heard him ask "why are you following me?". According to Zimmerman Martin punched him in the face, knocked him to the ground and was slamming his head against the ground. This is at least partially backed up by 2 witnesses. Now I'm not saying this is all true or not, I want to see what the investigation finds, but if Zimmermans account is true I can see how this could be self defense.

Let's try a hypothetical scenario. I'm following someone I saw snooping around my neighbors house, the guy gets pissed and starts coming after me with a baseball bat. Am I supposed to just stand there and get beat to death? If I pull out a gun and shoot the guy am I guilty of murder or is it self defense? What a lot of people seem to be saying is that it doesn't matter what happened in the fight because Zimmerman started it by following him. This is really a ridiculous statement, if your life is in danger you are justified in defending yourself.


Wrong, if you run around playing hero following an innocent man around and then kill him when you stand between him and his home, You are guilty. In fact, the stand your ground argument could show that Trevon had every right to defend himself from an anonymous armed attacker who was clearly following him and was now between him and his home. My understanding is that there is also an "equal force" section to the Stand your Ground law. Hit in the nose and Shot Dead aren't very equal either. You're just wrong.
 
2012-03-28 11:00:40 PM

cameroncrazy1984: OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Yes I think Martin was in the wrong

Yes, wearing a hoodie at night is WRONG!



In the RAIN, no less.

\How dare anyone wear a hoodie when it's raining out. Delinquents, the lot of 'em!
\\I heard on the news that it was sprinkling the night Trayvon was shot; I'm too lazy to verify that info.
 
2012-03-28 11:00:45 PM

gblive: osafer: CrispFlows: Warthog: His nose does look broken to me, and in one of those screen shots you can see scrapes on the back of his head.

You suppose they changed his shirt to a clean one? Or that he somehow managed to get a broken nose that doesn't bleed and kept his shirt clean?

I got sucker punched at a bar one night about 20 years ago and it broke my nose, fought the guy for about another 30 to 60 seconds until it got broke up. Not a single drop of blood on my clothes and I was bleeding profusely.

Did you also shoot the guy when he was on top of you and not get a single drop of blood on your clothes?


I was just saying not everything happens they way you expect them to happen, and lack of blood or covered in blood does not prove what happened one way or the other.

I just like how farkers on here are convicting Zimmerman without any proof. To believe this is a cover up, we would have to believe that the police were willing to risk their lively-hood and freedom for someone they don't know. And since we know all cops are racists and pigs there is no way they would do it for a "spic", even if he did kill a black guy, they could have had a twofor =ie one dead minority one in jail....

With that being said, with the amount of attention this incident is receiving, it should be re-investigated by an independent body and the chips fall where they may. But either way politics and public opinion should be the last thing that sways it.
 
2012-03-28 11:01:02 PM

ChuDogg: [img715.imageshack.us image 640x399]

More detail here (new window)

At about 2:15 in the call, you can hear Zimmerman step out of the car (the open door alarm goes off in the background) and mentions that Martin is running towards to the back entrance. As the dispatch told him to "let him know if he does anything else" in fact, he asked him twice. So Zimmerman steps out of the car to direct the dispatch to the exit.

At 2:30, the dispatch asks if he is following and says "we don't need you to do that", and at about 2:40 Zimmerman says "he ran" in a dismissive tone, indicating he can not see where he went down the "cut through". His breathing also normalizes as you can tell he is no longer running.

So the entire "chase" was a really a brisk walk across about 20-30 meters of lawn (for reference, the driveways are 1 car length), to get around the corner of the complex to observe Martin's escape so he could direct the 911 dispatch. The entire "he was told to stand down" was about 10 seconds long, just enough for Zimmerman to round a few feet of the corner of the complex that was obstructing his view.

Now we don't know who started the altercation, only that it happened right there and probably very shortly after the 911 call (indeed, Martin likely heard ZImmerman on the phone with the police). But there is no evidence to suggest Zimmerman attacked Martin.

In fact, all evidence appears to show he is innocent. Compared to the narrative we first heard when the story broke: Zimmerman chased and gunned down an innocent kid as he was screaming helplessly for his life. We all see Treyvon's mother crying in horror on national TV as she listened to Zimmerman screaming, thinking it was her son. Now that it's been pointed out routinely that all evidence points to Zimmerman screaming, we're led to believe Zimmerman chased and pursued Martin as that was evidence he initiated the violence. Yet this chase lasted a whole 35 seconds during a brief walk across a single patch of lawn, ...


Manslaughter. Negligent homicide. At the minimum.
 
2012-03-28 11:01:29 PM

hubiestubert: Poor 9beers. For a guy who was sick of all this, he sure seems to come back for more.


img683.imageshack.us

I got nowhere else to go!!!
 
2012-03-28 11:01:30 PM

gonzoduke: 9beers: So why aren't we talking about the dozens of black teens that looted a Miami Walgreens today in what they called a "Treyvon Martin protest"? You know, I haven't even seen this reported on TV today, why do you think that is?

Dude, really, you're not helping matters at all. So please, just stop.


I don't think he can. He's invested so much of his own identity and self worth in this he seriously can't bring himself to turn away. This guy appears to have spent something like three days without sleep constantly posting when this story first broke out, and since then has only taken breaks long enough to take catnaps (or score more meth, who knows what keeps him going). He keeps making dramatic statements about how he's tired of arguing with idiots and so he's storming out, only to post literally minutes later.

I have to say, it's become a really impressive train wreck. It's like watching a multi hour video compilation of people accidentally getting hit in the nuts. It has no real value, it shouldn't really even be funny, you want to stop watching, but it's too farking hilarious.
 
2012-03-28 11:01:33 PM

ElBarto79: What a lot of people seem to be claiming is that Zimmerman started it by following Martin, therefore it doesn't matter what happened after that he is always guilty because he started it. All I'm saying is you are entitled to defend yourself if your life is in danger.


So you are saying what precipitates a confrontation is irrelevant? So I go up to some guy, punch him in the face, and when he starts punching me I can shoot and kill him, because I fear that my life is in danger?
 
2012-03-28 11:02:08 PM

ElBarto79: I see someone snooping around my neighbors house and follow him. The guy gets pissed, turns the tables on me, knocks me to the ground and begins beating the crap out of me.

At what point am I allowed to pull out my gun and shoot him? If I shoot him is it self defense or murder?


If he has his hands around your throat, or you are actually injured.. if you are LEGITIMATELY IN REAL FEAR OF DEATH, then and only then could you even begin to justify being judge, jury and executioner. And fark your story needs to stack up after because you just killed someone.

In this case that appears just a ridiculous scenario to present.
 
2012-03-28 11:02:39 PM

tinyarena: The cop said bleeding from nose and back of head. Watch the video.There is no blood on his shirt. There is no blood on his back. There is no blood. And yes, I do know blood when I see it. In fact, there is no mark on him at all. My, this is guy is so neat.


Yeah, the lack of blood on his clothes is the most telling part. No question, he doesn't appear to be in the sort of condition that recent statements from HIM and HIS lawyer have been bringing up the past few days, and hell yeah, it's interesting.

I'm just thinking though that people saying "b...b...but even the police report said he was bleeding from the nose and head!" aren't really pulling such a trump card anyway, because it's easy enough to be "bleeding from the nose and head" and have both only be little scratches that wouldn't leave a mess.

...which of course would not be "being beaten repeatedly into concrete and with my nose broken."

But absolutely, more that the current state of his head (if we assume everything was wiped really nicely and they used crazy glue or whatever) I would expect more blood on his clothing, if his lawyer's recent tales as repeated on the internet are true.

I mean, you shoot a guy at close range, if nothing else, in a scuffle where you were beaten repeatedly into the concrete, and there's NO blood from you OR even more likely the other guy, on your shirt? Really?

And yeah, this guy doesn't look anything like "too morbidly obese to chase a kid" either.
 
2012-03-28 11:03:17 PM

ElBarto79: furiousxgeorge: Let's try a hypothetical scenario. I'm following someone I saw snooping around my neighbors house, the guy gets pissed and starts coming after me with a baseball bat. Am I supposed to just stand there and get beat to death? If I pull out a gun and shoot the guy am I guilty of murder or is it self defense? What a lot of people seem to be saying is that it doesn't matter what happened in the fight because Zimmerman started it by following him. This is really a ridiculous statement, if your life is in danger you are justified in defending yourself.

Why invent the baseball bat? Because it sounds ridiculous when it's an unarmed kid who is much thinner than the other guy, we know. Look, here's the thing. We know for a fact Zimmerman was chasing and Martin was running. Zimmerman's claim is that this situation reversed but there is no evidence to back that up aside from his claim. We don't know who struck first.
.

I knew as soon as I posted that that someone would just focus on the baseball bat. Fine, let's change it;

I see someone snooping around my neighbors house and follow him. The guy gets pissed, turns the tables on me, knocks me to the ground and begins beating the crap out of me.

At what point am I allowed to pull out my gun and shoot him? If I shoot him is it self defense or murder?

What a lot of people seem to be claiming is that Zimmerman started it by following Martin, therefore it doesn't matter what happened after that he is always guilty because he started it. All I'm saying is you are entitled to defend yourself if your life is in danger. No rational person would let themselves be beat to death in this hypothetical situation.


Right, but you are inventing a hypothetical where Martin is definitely guilty and turned around and attacked him. You also invented the detail where Martin was snooping instead of just walking home. That is not a fact, it is a hypothetical. Look, how about the hypothetical where Zimmerman screamed a racial slur, and then shot him in cold blood? Now if we consider THAT....

Anyway, if Zimmerman was legitimately defending himself than he was legitimately defending himself, that should be allowed under the law. The problem is the evidence for that right now is his own word.

Separate from the legal issue, Zimmerman should be held responsible for following someone for no damn reason when he was told it was not necessary, introducing a handgun into the situation for no god damn reason, assuming the kid was on drugs which probably put Zimmerman more on edge for no good reason, and on and on and on.
 
2012-03-28 11:03:24 PM

MFAWG: If I was walking home at night and some creepy looking dude got out of his car and followed me down a foot path into a more isolated area like that, I would have to consider him to be up to absolutely no good at all, and kicking his ass until he can't do whatever that is would DEFINITELY be on the list of options.


So you would hide in the nearby houses while you're 70 meters from your house, wait 2 minutes while he is on the phone with police, and then jump out to attack him, continue your attack for at least 45 seconds while one onlooker yells at you to stop and dozens of onlookers call the police? Hmmm.. yeah I think that is what self defense law is exactly for.

Zimmerman didn't follow him until Martin took off running, and even then he was only trying to observe which way Martin ran so he could direct the police. The total "chase" lasts 25 seconds, 10 seconds after being suggested not to by the dispatch and he was already close to rounding the corner.

The original narrative is falling apart.

(I mean I supposed Treyvon approached him and Zimmerman still could have attacked him first, but the original narrative has fallen apart. Is anybody even attempting to claim it was Treyvon screaming for help?)
 
2012-03-28 11:03:46 PM

gaspode: ElBarto79: I see someone snooping around my neighbors house and follow him. The guy gets pissed, turns the tables on me, knocks me to the ground and begins beating the crap out of me.

At what point am I allowed to pull out my gun and shoot him? If I shoot him is it self defense or murder?

If he has his hands around your throat, or you are actually injured.. if you are LEGITIMATELY IN REAL FEAR OF DEATH, then and only then could you even begin to justify being judge, jury and executioner. And fark your story needs to stack up after because you just killed someone.

In this case that appears just a ridiculous scenario to present.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-03-28 11:04:22 PM

Giltric: The Great EZE: I want Zimmerman to go on trial just to see if his lawyers will use the "LOOK OVER THERE!" defense like so many of our Outraged Zimmerman Defenders right now.

Well its easier for the defense to object in court due to speculation then it is to object on Fark due to specualtion.

Grainy videos, semantics over what a 911 operator said, at first people were all like ZIMMERMAN WASN"T EVEN QUESTIONED BY POLICE yet now we see him in a video being led away in cuffs to be interviewed.....not to mention confirmation bias on both sides.

theres holes in both sides of the story now I'm just gonna make fun of people and wait till the GJ says something.


Oh, it's harmless fun to play Clarence Darrow and shiat - I just hope that when something real does come down from the courts, that people accept it whether or not it fits their preconceptions of what it should be.
 
2012-03-28 11:04:30 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: mc_madness: 9beers: So why aren't we talking about the dozens of black teens that looted a Miami Walgreens today in what they called a "Treyvon Martin protest"? You know, I haven't even seen this reported on TV today, why do you think that is?

If Obama had 100 children they'd look like THIS

"National News Channel"? NATIONAL NEWS CHANNEL??? LOL!

Maybe for his next post, Christmas Troll 9beers should bring up David Duke's opinion on this matter and demand why it isn't being given credence in the media.



Also, my favorite idiotic racist comment from that Youtube video:

TNB!! Trayvon Martin was a worthless n***r and so are everybody protesting

REPEAL the 19th amendment now!


I don't think that amendment means what you think it means.
 
2012-03-28 11:05:24 PM

The Great EZE: But seriously, how much clout does this not-even-a-rent-a-cop have around the neighborhood that "witnesses" are willing to lie for him? A dead black kid in your nice little gated community is one thing. A neighborhood of people conspiring to help the killer is a whole new level of unsavory.


I haven't seen the video, but THIS.

And that also goes against some of the items observed by police and leaked in the report yesterday, which is damn interesting...

That said, I'm seeing what looks life the aftermath of a good shot to the nose in some of those pics. Might be the resolution of the camera, might be the lighting, or it might be what Zimmerman's lawyer has claimed.

The official police report, and that from any EMTs on scene will pretty much put this to rest.

/grabs popcorn, because no matter what they can prove, it seems the other side will have a reason that fits their narrative instead
 
2012-03-28 11:05:36 PM

Fubar: CornDog in 2012: Fubar: Just showed my dad the video. His response?

"I don't think that's him"

Is it your bedtime yet?

Ooh clever, let me lower the bar a little...

Not according to your mom.


Wouldn't that be raising the bar, if ya know what I mean and I think you do.
 
2012-03-28 11:05:50 PM

noneyourbase: 100 Watt Walrus: MFAWG: One Bad Apple: On a semi serious note why isn't the cop shop footage time stamped ?

That's an interesting question. Because the less information the public has, the better off everyone is would be one guess.

If you look closely at about 1/3 of the way into the video, you can see a gray strip of text bouncing in and out of the bottom of the frame, which ABC (or someone) cut off. I'd be willing to bet it's data that includes timestamp.

[i.imgur.com image 640x389]

I'm actually curious how the video leaked to the press as well.


Big hullabaloo about that up this way: Long story short, the PD is a public agency, and those are public records.

So by 'Leaked', you mean somebody asked to see them.
 
2012-03-28 11:05:51 PM
I enhanced the image. There is clearly a conspiracy in this story that involves the media and black people.

Link (new window)
 
2012-03-28 11:06:39 PM

Mrtraveler01: 9beers: Mrtraveler01: But they're in no way racist...

You know dude, you're kind of dimwitted with all your racist talk. I decided to go over to Strormfront to see how real racists are reacting to this and guess what, the only thing they're concerned about is Zimmerman being labeled as white. They couldn't give a fark less that a Hispanic might be accused of killing a black. So see buddy, you're kind of a fool because white racists don't give a fark about anything other than other white people.

The real racists in this are people pulling the race card. You know, about 99% of the black population and most Farkers.

So these aren't racist?

[i5.photobucket.com image 500x375]

[www.christandpopculture.com image 640x353]


They're racist all right, especially because they're not real.

Also whenever someone posts something like that, I try to ask them why they care about the media being biased toward not portraying Martin as a thug so much, because I can't think of any reason other than racism.
 
2012-03-28 11:07:04 PM

Altitude5280: Not a drop of blood on that white shirt.


He was wearing a red sweater according to the witness statement. I imagine he took it off because it was dirty from being ambushed by a crazy burglar kid. Of course you don't care enough to read the official police report like I did. Or the other reports written about that night. The racist lefts story has already fallen apart. I'm just waiting for the press report where they say no charges will be filed.
 
2012-03-28 11:07:55 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: the_vegetarian_cannibal: mc_madness: 9beers: So why aren't we talking about the dozens of black teens that looted a Miami Walgreens today in what they called a "Treyvon Martin protest"? You know, I haven't even seen this reported on TV today, why do you think that is?

If Obama had 100 children they'd look like THIS

"National News Channel"? NATIONAL NEWS CHANNEL??? LOL!

Maybe for his next post, Christmas Troll 9beers should bring up David Duke's opinion on this matter and demand why it isn't being given credence in the media.


Also, my favorite idiotic racist comment from that Youtube video:

TNB!! Trayvon Martin was a worthless n***r and so are everybody protesting

REPEAL the 19th amendment now!

I don't think that amendment means what you think it means.


I'm tempted to troll that comment section right now.

Any ideas what I should say?
 
2012-03-28 11:08:02 PM

I Said: I enhanced the image. There is clearly a conspiracy in this story that involves the media and black people.

Link (new window)


I have a sneaking suspicion that you might run around, and hurt me.
 
2012-03-28 11:08:21 PM

cameroncrazy1984: frostdillicus: cameroncrazy1984: elffster:

If there was a real number less than zero, that would be it.

There are in fact an infinite amount of real numbers less than zero.

/just sayin...

Dammit. Should've said integer?

/math was never my strong suit.



There's an infinite number of real integers less than zero. Try again.
 
2012-03-28 11:08:42 PM
Q: Why is the number six afraid?
A: Because seven drank nine beers.
 
2012-03-28 11:09:02 PM

ChuDogg: MFAWG: If I was walking home at night and some creepy looking dude got out of his car and followed me down a foot path into a more isolated area like that, I would have to consider him to be up to absolutely no good at all, and kicking his ass until he can't do whatever that is would DEFINITELY be on the list of options.

So you would hide in the nearby houses while you're 70 meters from your house, wait 2 minutes while he is on the phone with police, and then jump out to attack him, continue your attack for at least 45 seconds while one onlooker yells at you to stop and dozens of onlookers call the police? Hmmm.. yeah I think that is what self defense law is exactly for.

Zimmerman didn't follow him until Martin took off running, and even then he was only trying to observe which way Martin ran so he could direct the police. The total "chase" lasts 25 seconds, 10 seconds after being suggested not to by the dispatch and he was already close to rounding the corner.

The original narrative is falling apart.

(I mean I supposed Treyvon approached him and Zimmerman still could have attacked him first, but the original narrative has fallen apart. Is anybody even attempting to claim it was Treyvon screaming for help?)


Some of the witnesses who heard the screaming, yes.
 
2012-03-28 11:09:17 PM

jso2897: I Said: I enhanced the image. There is clearly a conspiracy in this story that involves the media and black people.

Link (new window)

I have a sneaking suspicion that you might run around, and hurt me.


lol. Nah, no video or audio. Just some CSI stuff.
 
2012-03-28 11:10:27 PM

ChuDogg: MFAWG: If I was walking home at night and some creepy looking dude got out of his car and followed me down a foot path into a more isolated area like that, I would have to consider him to be up to absolutely no good at all, and kicking his ass until he can't do whatever that is would DEFINITELY be on the list of options.

So you would hide in the nearby houses while you're 70 meters from your house, wait 2 minutes while he is on the phone with police, and then jump out to attack him, continue your attack for at least 45 seconds while one onlooker yells at you to stop and dozens of onlookers call the police? Hmmm.. yeah I think that is what self defense law is exactly for.

Zimmerman didn't follow him until Martin took off running, and even then he was only trying to observe which way Martin ran so he could direct the police. The total "chase" lasts 25 seconds, 10 seconds after being suggested not to by the dispatch and he was already close to rounding the corner.

The original narrative is falling apart.

(I mean I supposed Treyvon approached him and Zimmerman still could have attacked him first, but the original narrative has fallen apart. Is anybody even attempting to claim it was Treyvon screaming for help?)


Would I get in an ambush position? That's possible, maybe even likely. Would I lead Mr. Psycho right to my back door? That may not be a good idea if you stop and think for a second.

Where does the actual alter
 
2012-03-28 11:10:30 PM

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Altitude5280: Not a drop of blood on that white shirt.

He was wearing a red sweater according to the witness statement. I imagine he took it off because it was dirty from being ambushed by a crazy burglar kid. Of course you don't care enough to read the official police report like I did. Or the other reports written about that night. The racist lefts story has already fallen apart. I'm just waiting for the press report where they say no charges will be filed.


That would be bad for anyone who would like to see Florida's stand your ground law enacted in other states, but I know most of the herd isn't able figure out that very simple outcome.
 
2012-03-28 11:11:03 PM

I Said: I enhanced the image. There is clearly a conspiracy in this story that involves the media and black people.

Link (new window)


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-28 11:11:15 PM

missiv: Someone named George Zimmerman needs to explain his facts in a courtroom of law, without others speaking for him. Trayvon's parents deserve to hear the facts, about how their son went to the store for candy and a soda, and ended up at the morgue. George is the only person who can explain it truthfully and fully.


Exactly. That's all anyone is asking for. A trial, with people under oath.
 
2012-03-28 11:11:32 PM

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: He was wearing a red sweater according to the witness statement. I imagine he took it off because it was dirty from being ambushed by a crazy burglar kid. Of course you don't care enough to read the official police report like I did.


Um, no. The police report clearly says Zimmerman was wearing a red jacket, just like in the video. I'm sorry you have such poor reading ability.
 
2012-03-28 11:11:44 PM

cameroncrazy1984: CrAz3D: grainy video that shows basically grainy grain-like grains. DEFINITELY proof of X.

Yes, you can ALMOST make out a person!


/get your eyes checked.


No, he's actually right. There's a LOT to be desired by the quality here.

Regardless, it raises a lot more questions as to the veracity of Zimmerman's claims.

If the police are letting this stuff out, and with all the leaks coming out in the past day or two, the local PD also need a serious looking at, because it doesn't seem that they're able to control the investigation either.

Hate to say it, but it might be time for the Feds to come and watch over this one. The last thing you need is to screw this thing up because the locals were taking cash from the media, or mishandling evidence, etc.
 
2012-03-28 11:11:57 PM
Why are we just now being told about this couched being brought handcuffed into a police station now? You know, to a lot of people, that's kinda what being placed under arrest means, and it would be nice if the farking news idiots could get us a straight story for once.
 
2012-03-28 11:12:07 PM

Thrag: gonzoduke: 9beers: So why aren't we talking about the dozens of black teens that looted a Miami Walgreens today in what they called a "Treyvon Martin protest"? You know, I haven't even seen this reported on TV today, why do you think that is?

Dude, really, you're not helping matters at all. So please, just stop.

I don't think he can. He's invested so much of his own identity and self worth in this he seriously can't bring himself to turn away. This guy appears to have spent something like three days without sleep constantly posting when this story first broke out, and since then has only taken breaks long enough to take catnaps (or score more meth, who knows what keeps him going). He keeps making dramatic statements about how he's tired of arguing with idiots and so he's storming out, only to post literally minutes later.

I have to say, it's become a really impressive train wreck. It's like watching a multi hour video compilation of people accidentally getting hit in the nuts. It has no real value, it shouldn't really even be funny, you want to stop watching, but it's too farking hilarious.


Oh, I missed all that. Well, I'll grab my popcorn then!
 
2012-03-28 11:12:24 PM

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Altitude5280: Not a drop of blood on that white shirt.

He was wearing a red sweater according to the witness statement. I imagine he took it off because it was dirty from being ambushed by a crazy burglar kid. Of course you don't care enough to read the official police report like I did. Or the other reports written about that night. The racist lefts story has already fallen apart. I'm just waiting for the press report where they say no charges will be filed.


Needs mappy goodness or random caps. A veiled slur wouldn't hurt either.

2/10.
 
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