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(ABC)   George Zimmerman on video after the shooting. Funny, those massive head injuries seem to have healed fast, and where's all the blood that should have stained his shirt from shooting someone who was on top of him?   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 1167
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2012-03-28 09:53:01 PM
So much for the Paranoia defense. It's getting harder and harder to lead with the words, "I say without fear of contradiction..." in the modern era. What is the world coming to when a troubleshooter is doubted? Though to be fair, it looks like he only had Red clearance.

If someone approached me in my neighborhood demanding to know what I was doing there, if I gave him any response it would be along the lines of "your wife, since you're not there to satisfy her." If I was in a good mood, I may just tell him "sorry, I'm not holding tonite but it looks like you need a good fix, I know a guy you can blow for it." Seriously, it's the sidewalk (or shoulder of the road), someone has no right to question me about using it, and Zimmerman makes a good argument for just preemptively shooting the questioner before you get shot by Mr. Neighborhood Watch. Thanks for upping the stakes in any encounter. If you insist that race had nothing to do with this, it makes it even worse because ANYONE can claim that the other person assaulted them and the shooting was in self defense. As long as only one side of the story is told, nothing else matters, right?
 
2012-03-28 09:53:31 PM

Snuffybud: DavidVincent: [johnhicks.com image 169x213]

"Would you let us collect the evidence, ma'am?"

Get the fark out of here, you multi-alt troll. We outed you last night, do we have to do it again?


I don't have an alt. It wouldn't matter one iota I did.
 
2012-03-28 09:53:47 PM

theflatline: I got my nose broken in a fight, i popped it back into place, and it really didnt look any different until the next day.


Did someone attack you for wearing a hoodie?
 
2012-03-28 09:53:53 PM

Raharu: Kid had it coming anyway.


Stay gold, pony boy.
 
2012-03-28 09:54:28 PM
So I guess waiting for the official investigation and trial is off the table, now that this incontrovertible evidence that Zimmerman cleaned up before the video was taken is available?
 
2012-03-28 09:54:35 PM

CrAz3D: cameroncrazy1984: CrAz3D: grainy video that shows basically grainy grain-like grains. DEFINITELY proof of X.

Yes, you can ALMOST make out a person!


/get your eyes checked.

Can you tell his nose is broken from that video? No. Can you tell that his nose is fine? No.

This video is basically useless, save for noting that the cop inspects Z's head and also wipes his hands after touching Z's clothing.


Where's the head injury? I see you purposely avoided talking about that.
 
2012-03-28 09:54:36 PM

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Who's the liberal cumquat that keeps posting these stupid headlines?


Seriously?
 
2012-03-28 09:55:04 PM
I just don't understand why Chaz Bono would do such a thing and lie about it.

(S)He seemed like such a nice person on Dancing with the Stars.
 
2012-03-28 09:55:17 PM
thyblackman.com

Justice for Trayvon!
 
2012-03-28 09:55:35 PM

FLMountainMan: OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Who's the liberal cumquat that keeps posting these stupid headlines?

Seriously?


Semenquat?
 
2012-03-28 09:55:57 PM

GAT_00: Roook: Wow. Wasn't he supposed to have a broken nose also?

That would be the medical attention he claimed he needed.


Mostly for the lulz I will point out that cops don't generally like bleeding people in their cars. It is possible that his injuries were treated at the scene and then he was cuffed and stuffed. Anyone needing the medical attention that Zimmerman claimed would be brought to the ER (or treated by EMS) before being brought to the cop shop for booking/statement.



On a semi serious note why isn't the cop shop footage time stamped ?
 
2012-03-28 09:56:27 PM
Dammit, I just finished a whole bag of popcorn...

/off to make more
//yes, I sound fat
///slashies come in threes
 
2012-03-28 09:56:50 PM

cameroncrazy1984: elffster: I wonder how many comments the defenders of derp will have plastered in here by noon tomorrow? anyone care to guess?

If there was a real number less than zero, that would be it.


There are in fact an infinite amount of real numbers less than zero.

/just sayin...
 
2012-03-28 09:58:03 PM

frostdillicus: cameroncrazy1984: elffster: I wonder how many comments the defenders of derp will have plastered in here by noon tomorrow? anyone care to guess?

If there was a real number less than zero, that would be it.

There are in fact an infinite amount of real numbers less than zero.

/just sayin...


Dammit. Should've said integer?

/math was never my strong suit.
 
2012-03-28 09:58:12 PM

LindyJohn: I see the Fark CSI brigade is out in force today...


Seriously.

Zoom and enhance.
 
2012-03-28 09:58:52 PM

MorrisBird: Take a look at the law man,
beating up the wrong guy.
Oh, man, wonder if he'll ever know.
He's in the best selling show.
Is there life on Mars?

I need a new planet.


I'm sinking in the quicksand of my thought
and I ain't got the power anymore.

/sigh
 
2012-03-28 09:59:32 PM

9beers: Raharu: Kid had it coming anyway.

Stay gold, pony boy.


Ponies are for WinterWhile, you just get direct quotes.
 
2012-03-28 09:59:38 PM
 
2012-03-28 10:00:38 PM

elffster: Anddddd we're green.

Everyone DERP!


You couldn't have timed that post any better. DerpStorm Category 5 swirled in immediately afterwards.
 
2012-03-28 10:01:18 PM
Po-po dad just asked why the cops aren't wearing gloves and they're looking in his pockets at the station. But that's Jersey, maybe Florida's way different.
 
2012-03-28 10:02:09 PM
His nose does look broken to me, and in one of those screen shots you can see scrapes on the back of his head.
 
2012-03-28 10:03:06 PM

Some Random Fat Guy: elffster: Anddddd we're green.

Everyone DERP!

You couldn't have timed that post any better. DerpStorm Category 5 swirled in immediately afterwards.


I haz DSP
 
2012-03-28 10:03:41 PM

Warthog: His nose does look broken to me, and in one of those screen shots you can see scrapes on the back of his head.


Could you Zoom and enhance for us?
 
2012-03-28 10:03:47 PM
Also, I forgot to add in my last post, steel doesn't melt without thermite, and buildings won't free fall without controlled demolition.

/sorry.
 
2012-03-28 10:04:42 PM

One Bad Apple: GAT_00: Roook: Wow. Wasn't he supposed to have a broken nose also?

That would be the medical attention he claimed he needed.

Mostly for the lulz I will point out that cops don't generally like bleeding people in their cars. It is possible that his injuries were treated at the scene and then he was cuffed and stuffed. Anyone needing the medical attention that Zimmerman claimed would be brought to the ER (or treated by EMS) before being brought to the cop shop for booking/statement.



On a semi serious note why isn't the cop shop footage time stamped ?


That's an interesting question. Because the less information the public has, the better off everyone is would be one guess.
 
2012-03-28 10:05:41 PM

cameroncrazy1984: CrAz3D: cameroncrazy1984: CrAz3D: grainy video that shows basically grainy grain-like grains. DEFINITELY proof of X.

Yes, you can ALMOST make out a person!


/get your eyes checked.

Can you tell his nose is broken from that video? No. Can you tell that his nose is fine? No.

This video is basically useless, save for noting that the cop inspects Z's head and also wipes his hands after touching Z's clothing.

Where's the head injury? I see you purposely avoided talking about that.


I haven't read a fully descriptive account of the head injury. And, if you go back and read, I note that you can see an officer (apparently) inspect Z's head, from which you can easily (I hope) draw the inference that there may/may not be an injury to Z's head.
 
2012-03-28 10:06:02 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Well... it got better


TRAYVON MARTIN IS A WITCH, SHE'S A WITCH!

/thank you, mmm, for your unique perspective of this mess.
 
2012-03-28 10:06:03 PM
KILL WHITEY!!!!!!
 
2012-03-28 10:06:27 PM

NeoCortex42: I still can't understand why he hasn't been arrested. He's recorded on the 911 call as saying he's in his car following the kid. He's told not to do that. The fact that he even ends up outside his car near the kid in a position to feel "threatened" means he put himself there. That should be all it takes to remove the Stand Your Ground defense.


I'm still on the fence about his guilt but I've seen this one particular falsehood endlessly repeated - "the police told him to stop", "the police told him to return to his car" etc., etc. Let's be very clear, at no point did anyone tell Zimmerman to stop, no one told him to return to his car, no one told him "don't do that". What the police dispatcher said, verbatim, was "we don't need you to do that". It's the difference between a suggestion, and a specific instruction. It may well have been irresponsible for him to follow Martin but it was not illegal for him to do so, and he was not violating any orders from the police because they never gave him any clear instructions to stop.
 
2012-03-28 10:07:38 PM

cameroncrazy1984: I'll be over here holding my breath for all the guys who called me a homosexual for believing that Zimmerman was lying to come in here and apologize.


They said your picture looked gay. But I expect rewrites for you after that thread.
 
2012-03-28 10:07:41 PM
The only thing that is interesting about this is the lack of grass stains, despite the eyewitness testimony of two individuals who saw the two engaged in a scuffle in the grass. Odd.

Well, ok, not the ONLY thing, but the only thing that was corroborated by third parties.
 
2012-03-28 10:07:51 PM

Thunderpipes: eraser8: Thunderpipes: Police reports and evidence. Unlike the liberal morons who base everything off crying and wah wah and guilt.

The police report -- other than recording Zimmerman's claims -- had nothing in it that would tend to justify your accusation against Martin.

So, what is this "evidence" that you have?

Zimmerman's statement, his injuries, and eye witness testimoney. What is your evidence that NO_LIMIT_* was a perfect little angel? Oh, nothing but speculation?


At first glance, lack of visible physical injury might SEEM like fact or evidence. But it's not. Thunderpipes will now explain why....
 
2012-03-28 10:07:55 PM

Nickster79: theflatline: I got my nose broken in a fight, i popped it back into place, and it really didnt look any different until the next day.

Did someone attack you for wearing a hoodie?


it was in a waffle house in fort myers, i was sucker punched by a black guy who had previously slapped his girlfriend in front of me and a buddy, and told to settle down.

He then threw a bowl of grits at my scottish buddies face, and when i turned around he hit me. And his redneck buddies went on the attack.

We held em off with the help of the fry cook and his frying pan and the police came.
 
2012-03-28 10:07:57 PM

DavidVincent: Snuffybud: DavidVincent: [johnhicks.com image 169x213]

"Would you let us collect the evidence, ma'am?"

Get the fark out of here, you multi-alt troll. We outed you last night, do we have to do it again?

I don't have an alt. It wouldn't matter one iota I did.


You posted as Scerpes, then corrected yourself as DavidVincent. There's a special place in Fark hell for people like you. Maybe you should pay attention to who you are logged in as.

i1199.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-28 10:08:08 PM
img692.imageshack.us
 
2012-03-28 10:08:09 PM

NeoCortex42: I still can't understand why he hasn't been arrested. He's recorded on the 911 call as saying he's in his car following the kid. He's told not to do that. The fact that he even ends up outside his car near the kid in a position to feel "threatened" means he put himself there. That should be all it takes to remove the Stand Your Ground defense.


dingdingding! the little things mean a lot. it will take time but justice will be served.
 
2012-03-28 10:08:16 PM
From*
 
2012-03-28 10:08:17 PM
Not a drop of blood on that white shirt.
 
2012-03-28 10:08:22 PM
police report states Zimmerman treated at the scene by SFD
 
2012-03-28 10:08:33 PM
splitedit.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-03-28 10:08:39 PM

wearetheworld: KILL WHITEY WHITE HISPANICY!!!!!!

 
2012-03-28 10:08:53 PM

RandomRandom: CrAz3D: grainy video that shows basically grainy grain-like grains. DEFINITELY proof of X.

The anti-hoodie brigade is really grasping at straws tonight.

Did you see any blood? Did you see any bandages?

The video proves that Zimmerman is a liar. Telling a provable lie about involvement in a killing has put a lot of murderers behind bars. Just that, nothing more. One simple but provable lie regarding the crime. That's all it often takes to convince a jury of guilt.


There could have been dry blood under his nose. His nose could've been cleaned up, but never the less broken. His head could've had abrasions. That video's quality is far too poor to tell either way.

I had this guy nailed at first too...but since the recent release of new information (including witnesses corroborating Z's story), I'v reverted to undecided. Eventually, a physician's report will tell definitively whether Z had a broken nose or head abrasions.
 
2012-03-28 10:09:15 PM
Trayvon Martin was murdered by George Zimmerman. Case closed.
 
2012-03-28 10:09:22 PM

ElBarto79: It may well have been irresponsible for him to follow Martin but it was not illegal for him to do so


That's my point. Regardless of whether it was legal or not, Zimmerman was definitely not the innocent one either and did nothing to minimize the chance of conflict.
 
2012-03-28 10:09:36 PM
I anticipate well-reasoned and logical responses in this thread.
 
2012-03-28 10:09:42 PM

ElBarto79: Let's be very clear, at no point did anyone tell Zimmerman to stop, no one told him to return to his car, no one told him "don't do that". What the police dispatcher said, verbatim, was "we don't need you to do that". It's the difference between a suggestion, and a specific instruction.


When a cop says "May I have your license and registration, please?", do you honestly think that's not a demand?

This just in: people in power sometimes phrase orders as requests.
 
2012-03-28 10:09:46 PM
I'm amused by the original Fark thread on Florida's "Stand Your Ground Law" (new window).

And particularly this exchange (new window):

bayoucity1 2006-02-24 09:49:25 AM

Caiteach:Yes, people should be able to defend themselves if attacked, but percieved threat? Unless perceived threat is very well defined in these laws that is a legal loophole a mile wild. We are one paranoid nation, and I can see this as being used to justify shooting that Arab-looking guy acting suspicous or the black in a doo rag who looks dangerous.

The reason you think this is because you are an idiot who thinks anyone who owns a gun must be some crazy racist bubba, troll.


and this:

Fark It [TotalFark] 2006-02-24 03:31:34 PM

Wow, we have common law decisions that erase any kind of duty to retreat in a bunch of states, and a bunch of state legislators want to put such an idea onto the books, and the gun-grabbers automatically jump to the shooting black people because they're scary argument. Sickening.


Yeah, totally sickening to point out what turns out to be a very likely outcome of a stupid law. It's not like this EXACT situation wasn't anticipated and brought up specifically at the time.
 
2012-03-28 10:10:49 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Trayvon Martin was murdered by George Zimmerman. Case closed.


FRY HIM! Who cares about a trial!?!!
 
2012-03-28 10:11:08 PM

EddieWearsUnderoos: I anticipate well-reasoned and logical responses in this thread.


So race baiting?
 
2012-03-28 10:11:41 PM
I don't know the facts yet (Nor does anyone really)--but I worked ER for a number of years--and typically when someone showed up, they had already been treated at scene by first responders. One, cops don't like blood in their seat, two cops don't like lawsuits about possible concussions not treated/inspect at scene and three until you know someone's guilt it's the right thing to do (treat/triage).

The cop looks at the back of his head for a moment, which could have easily been cleaned/coagulated dark by that time and not show up on this video.

Still, he certainly does not look as rough as the descriptions--so guess back to waiting for more evidence/facts.
 
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