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2012-03-28 01:54:20 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: I don't know... can you guarantee me more attention driving that than this?

[bmadore.squarespace.com image 640x480]

/Was stopped and interrogated by two young, attractive mothers in a minivan while driving this.
//Best $800 I ever spent.


It was the Tiffany blue quarter panels that turned their crank.
 
2012-03-28 01:54:22 PM
www.ridelust.com

"But why?"
 
2012-03-28 01:54:44 PM
Horsepower is for those who can't keep their speed up in the corners
 
2012-03-28 01:55:36 PM

i.r.id10t: Horsepower is for those who can't keep their speed up in the corners


aka posers.
 
2012-03-28 01:56:03 PM
GALLONS per mile.
 
2012-03-28 01:56:51 PM

opiumpoopy: Allen. The end.: Mustang?

Looks like a fish, moves like a fish, steers like a cow.

Well, I get the reference even if nobody else does...


it's only because that whole thing is a disaster area waiting to happen.
 
2012-03-28 01:56:53 PM
The power of this:
www.exotics-forsale.com

The handling of this:
www.wellsfargohistory.com
 
2012-03-28 01:57:01 PM
If I'm going to own a big hp maintenance nightmare, it's going to say two things on it: "Audi" and "R8."
 
2012-03-28 01:57:15 PM

Allen. The end.: Mustang?

Looks like a fish, moves like a fish, steers like a cow.


The new mustang gt was only 0.09 seconds faster on the road track, so yeah not so much any longer.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/08/24/motortrend-comparison-2011-ford-must ang-gt-vs-2011-bmw-m3-coupe/
 
2012-03-28 01:57:45 PM

asciibaron: i bet it handles great in the corners.


Exactly. If they even attempt to steer it, it'll end up rolling and burning into a charred cinder about the size of the driver's micropeen.

I want a Caterham. Really badly. They look like the most fun you can have in a car without hookers and blow.
 
2012-03-28 01:57:53 PM
Sorry that should have been slower by 0.09 secs
 
2012-03-28 01:59:27 PM

Sandsnake: Driving it in anything but open highway conditions would probably be extremely unpleasant...high HP cars aren't exactly known for their smooth handling.


Plus getting this beast into first gear at slow speeds would be a major pita, if you have any traffic you might as well push the damn thing instead of burning the clutch. Car is only made for drag racing 1/4 miles or 1/2 miles. Plus who the hell wants a heavily modified mustang for 200k? Much better cars are available for that price.
 
2012-03-28 01:59:33 PM

mercator_psi: asciibaron: i bet it handles great in the corners.

Exactly. If they even attempt to steer it, it'll end up rolling and burning into a charred cinder about the size of the driver's micropeen.

I want a Caterham. Really badly. They look like the most fun you can have in a car without hookers and blow.


which caterham? the classic 7, or one of the new vehicles?
 
2012-03-28 01:59:42 PM

r1niceboy: Great news. Now if they'd could just learn to use suspension that wasn't taken from a shopping cart, we'd have a Ford that wasn't a complete deathtrap taking a bend at anything above 40mph.


None of you even have a clue what you are talking about, three changes and even 99 mustangs handle great, most road guys learned how to drive on the old fox body mustangs.
 
2012-03-28 01:59:47 PM

Maud Dib: True fact.......Carroll Shelby, along with Frank X. Tolbert and Wick Fowler, began the World Chili Cookoff in Terlingua, Texas.

Mmmm...chili.

[i865.photobucket.com image 640x480]


"Chili" with ground beef : to real chili :: Mustang : Ferrari
 
2012-03-28 02:00:00 PM
The prospect of a 1,000 horsepower Mustang almost completely negates the standard internet jibe of "and still no flying cars."
 
2012-03-28 02:00:12 PM
Nice! That would be a pretty good time.
 
2012-03-28 02:00:44 PM

Splinshints: JesseL: Never mind that you can get the same numbers for way less money in a Supra with a stock bottom end, and probably end up with something that handles better too.

Never mind that you can get the same numbers for waaaaayyyyy less money if you just bolt a big motor to a go kart chassis.

It's almost like comparing apples and oranges is silly or something, huh?


Just WTF are you talking about? Either way we're talking about taking a decent and moderately priced base vehicle and boosting the shiat out of it. The big difference is that one of these vehicles starts with modern chassis & suspension, and a strong enough engine to not need to be rebuilt from the ground up in order to handle these horsepower levels.
 
2012-03-28 02:00:52 PM
Doubling the engine power with no suspension, brake or drivetrain mods is just asking for trouble. Using that extra power is going to take an expert driver
 
2012-03-28 02:01:04 PM

JesseL: Never mind that you can get the same numbers for way less money in a Supra with a stock bottom end, and probably end up with something that handles better too.


Stock supra? No. This car would kill the supra.
 
2012-03-28 02:01:19 PM
Oh man, the environmentalists are gonna hate this...
 
2012-03-28 02:01:44 PM
Here's a couple 1000hp cars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4f6nsByHls (new window)
 
2012-03-28 02:01:58 PM

mercator_psi: asciibaron: i bet it handles great in the corners.

Exactly. If they even attempt to steer it, it'll end up rolling and burning into a charred cinder about the size of the driver's micropeen.

I want a Caterham. Really badly. They look like the most fun you can have in a car without hookers and blow.


but when you add the H&B, game on.
 
2012-03-28 02:01:59 PM

LordBollocks: Doubling the engine power with no suspension, brake or drivetrain mods is just asking for trouble. Using that extra power is going to take an expert driver.


That's what she said.
 
2012-03-28 02:02:28 PM
Done in one.
 
2012-03-28 02:03:37 PM
...yeah, for that money, I'll have an Ariel Atom V8 instead. Or maybe just the V6 and a nice garage to put it in. It'll still be faster than some overpowered Mustang.
 
2012-03-28 02:03:39 PM

LordBollocks: Doubling the engine power with no suspension, brake or drivetrain mods is just asking for trouble. Using that extra power is going to take an expert driver


And that's even saying you can fully put all 1,000 hp to the ground. I think Top Gear did one on the Mercedes that had insane high HP but they couldn't keep the wheels on the ground without constantly spinning when they stomped the gas. Is traction even possible for hp of that number?
 
2012-03-28 02:03:50 PM

steamingpile: r1niceboy: Great news. Now if they'd could just learn to use suspension that wasn't taken from a shopping cart, we'd have a Ford that wasn't a complete deathtrap taking a bend at anything above 40mph.

None of you even have a clue what you are talking about, three changes and even 99 mustangs handle great, most road guys learned how to drive on the old fox body mustangs.


three changes, let me guess, new front end, replace rear with indy, and then you do what for the body roll?
 
2012-03-28 02:04:00 PM
Oh wait, $200k? I am betting this is an april fools joke now, its too close and Shelby likes to build cheaper road cars, hell you can get a Shelby gt up to 850 and close 900 hp for just under $100k.
 
2012-03-28 02:05:17 PM

TNel: LordBollocks: Doubling the engine power with no suspension, brake or drivetrain mods is just asking for trouble. Using that extra power is going to take an expert driver

And that's even saying you can fully put all 1,000 hp to the ground. I think Top Gear did one on the Mercedes that had insane high HP but they couldn't keep the wheels on the ground without constantly spinning when they stomped the gas. Is traction even possible for hp of that number?


it seems to help that the Veyron is all wheel drive.
 
2012-03-28 02:05:18 PM

mercator_psi: asciibaron: i bet it handles great in the corners.

Exactly. If they even attempt to steer it, it'll end up rolling and burning into a charred cinder about the size of the driver's micropeen.

I want a Caterham. Really badly. They look like the most fun you can have in a car without hookers and blow.


Replace "Caterham" with "Ariel Atom" and I'll agree with you.

/wouldn't turn down a Caterham, though
 
2012-03-28 02:05:49 PM

TNel: LordBollocks: Is traction even possible for hp of that number?


yes, reference a tractor pull or funny car.
 
2012-03-28 02:06:06 PM

TNel: LordBollocks: Doubling the engine power with no suspension, brake or drivetrain mods is just asking for trouble. Using that extra power is going to take an expert driver

And that's even saying you can fully put all 1,000 hp to the ground. I think Top Gear did one on the Mercedes that had insane high HP but they couldn't keep the wheels on the ground without constantly spinning when they stomped the gas. Is traction even possible for hp of that number?


Frankly I don't think it even matters. This is basically a freak show Mustang. And I'm kinda ok with that.
 
2012-03-28 02:06:30 PM

AntonChigger: Well shiat, I have never seen so many pretentious Debbie Downers in a single thread. Sure, a 1,000 hp Mustang is totally ridiculous and probably pointless, but that's also what makes it so insanely fun. The fact that we can even engineer something like this is farkin amazing and totally kickass. Is it really that hard for you guys to just enjoy something? You don't even have to pay for it or get behind the wheel.

/I know, welcome to Fark, etc
//Seriously, get over yourselves


Most of the ..sorry about your penis... oooh you must be having a crisis...types in here, are maybe a tad bit jealous that there are people out there that just might be at a point in their lives that they can FINALLY by that uber-expensive. fun, fast car that they have been dreaming about since they were 15.

I hope that I'll have that opportunity as well when the kids are out, things are paid off, and I can give a big FU(K YOU to that now 35yr old ex-hipster douche who realized that living paycheck to paycheck was not such a great idea after all.
 
2012-03-28 02:06:36 PM
The Mustangs are OK, and Carroll Shelby does good work, but you can get one of these for a lot less money:

www.euphonium.dk

It's an SL-C. It's a kit that comes as a rolling chasis (with brakes) and body that you put on. The kit is made in Detroit, accepts almost any linear powerplant that you choose to put in it, and costs around $45,000 (plus whatever drivetrain you want - not supplied). If you went with an LS engine and 6-speed gearbox you could get 200 mph out of an American car for around $60,000. Cheaper than a Z06.
 
2012-03-28 02:07:16 PM
I could buy 5 Limited STI's for that price.

Why would I want a RWD shiat box?

Give me a car with AWD, that I can use as a DD, and put mustangs to shame on the track.
 
2012-03-28 02:07:43 PM

asciibaron: steamingpile: r1niceboy: Great news. Now if they'd could just learn to use suspension that wasn't taken from a shopping cart, we'd have a Ford that wasn't a complete deathtrap taking a bend at anything above 40mph.

None of you even have a clue what you are talking about, three changes and even 99 mustangs handle great, most road guys learned how to drive on the old fox body mustangs.

three changes, let me guess, new front end, replace rear with indy, and then you do what for the body roll?


Steel I-beam strut tower braces, adamantium anti-roll bars, some roller coaster track...
 
2012-03-28 02:07:48 PM
Even if you don't try to steer the thing, do you think they've spent even a second thinking about how to get that power to the ground in a controlled fashion?
 
2012-03-28 02:08:07 PM
I don't get the fascination with sports cars. Give me a car that has a good stereo, and will get me from point A to point B with no trouble, and I am perfectly happy.

/hence why my 05 Outlander has been the best car I've owned so far
 
2012-03-28 02:08:48 PM

mercator_psi: asciibaron: i bet it handles great in the corners.

Exactly. If they even attempt to steer it, it'll end up rolling and burning into a charred cinder about the size of the driver's micropeen.

I want a Caterham. Really badly. They look like the most fun you can have in a car without hookers and blow.


I finished building a Westfield three years ago. Here's a pic:

a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

Essentially, Westfield is Caterham's competition in the UK. Went with Westfield after the US dealer was an absolute rude jackass.

Built the whole car for under 15k, cornering is 1.2G, (Yes, not 1.02) and braking is 1.3G. 0 to 60 is under 5 seconds. It's a fun giant-killer, essentially a four wheeled motorcycle.
 
2012-03-28 02:09:31 PM

asciibaron: steamingpile: r1niceboy: Great news. Now if they'd could just learn to use suspension that wasn't taken from a shopping cart, we'd have a Ford that wasn't a complete deathtrap taking a bend at anything above 40mph.

None of you even have a clue what you are talking about, three changes and even 99 mustangs handle great, most road guys learned how to drive on the old fox body mustangs.

three changes, let me guess, new front end, replace rear with indy, and then you do what for the body roll?


Springs(most gt shocks are fine), control arms, and subframe connectors.

Do that and they will handle better than you expect and 99+ it will make an even larger difference but that is because they helped balance it out instead of putting all the weight in the front.

Ideally you change the shocks out as well but for basic changes that will fix a lot of flex and roll for a very small amount of money spent.
 
2012-03-28 02:10:44 PM

Znuh: mercator_psi: asciibaron: i bet it handles great in the corners.

Exactly. If they even attempt to steer it, it'll end up rolling and burning into a charred cinder about the size of the driver's micropeen.

I want a Caterham. Really badly. They look like the most fun you can have in a car without hookers and blow.

I finished building a Westfield three years ago. Here's a pic:

[a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 640x480]

[a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 640x477]

Essentially, Westfield is Caterham's competition in the UK. Went with Westfield after the US dealer was an absolute rude jackass.

Built the whole car for under 15k, cornering is 1.2G, (Yes, not 1.02) and braking is 1.3G. 0 to 60 is under 5 seconds. It's a fun giant-killer, essentially a four wheeled motorcycle.


You wouldn't have details on how others would create such a beast would you?
 
2012-03-28 02:11:57 PM

JesseL: Just WTF are you talking about? Either way we're talking about taking a decent and moderately priced base vehicle and boosting the shiat out of it. The big difference is that one of these vehicles starts with modern chassis & suspension, and a strong enough engine to not need to be rebuilt from the ground up in order to handle these horsepower levels.


No, you're talking about a used car that hasn't been sold in this country for fourteen years. A decent Mark IV model is going to run you around $20,000 for an example in fair condition with 100,000+ miles on it. There's no guarantee when you get it that the car is in any condition to accept any level of "boosting", you're going to have to hunt and peck for parts, and you're probably going to have to do most of the work yourself.

Not quite the same thing as paying for a brand new car with all the modern bells and whistles coming straight off the factory line and going to a professional, widely known performance giant for a supercar rebuild.

And Shelby generally warrants their work to boot.

Maybe there are a few differences here that help account for the price difference, hmm?
 
2012-03-28 02:12:14 PM

johnMFer: Can I fit an Ampeg 8x10 in a Mustang? No. It's a useless vehicle to me, then. Maybe you could transplant the powertrain into a Transit Connect?

I did fit a Marshall 4x12 in the trunk of a Focus once, that was pretty impressive.


Once upon a time, I had a Geo Metro which carried my Marshall 4-12, Plexi head, 4-piece drum kit (with stands & cymbals), and 2 guitars. I still don't know how I ever did that on a regular basis.
 
2012-03-28 02:12:18 PM

AntonChigger: The fact that we can even engineer something like this is farkin amazing and totally kickass.


Engineer what? There's nothing special about gutting an engine, throwing away everything but the bottom end, replacing everything else with pretty basic commercial race parts that anyone can buy, and then bolting on a supercharger. That's pretty much how anyone who doesn't want to buy a crate engine does it.
 
2012-03-28 02:12:45 PM

loonatic112358: opiumpoopy: Allen. The end.: Mustang?

Looks like a fish, moves like a fish, steers like a cow.

Well, I get the reference even if nobody else does...

it's only because that whole thing is a disaster area waiting to happen.


Wouldn't trade a bowl of petunias for it.
 
2012-03-28 02:13:36 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: I don't know... can you guarantee me more attention driving that than this?

[bmadore.squarespace.com image 640x480]

/Was stopped and interrogated by two young, attractive mothers in a minivan while driving this.
//Best $800 I ever spent.


They had sex with you for $800?

Sweet.
 
2012-03-28 02:13:39 PM
Do not want. I drive like your grampa. Same reasons.
 
2012-03-28 02:13:44 PM

vernonFL: Sorry about your penis.


Done in one.
 
2012-03-28 02:13:49 PM
Oh FFS.

It's a muscle car.

It's purpose in life is to go really, really fast in a straight line (or on an oval track), not to break records 'round the 'Ring.
 
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