I did not rejoice when they were forced to eat Robin's minstrels.

Blues_X: "Who is paying you, Mr. Lawyer?"

Not really relevant.

"Does George Zimmerman have a job?"

Not relevant.

"Did you represent him when he was arrested for assault on a police officer in 2005?"

Previous charge is relevant, maybe (depends on the circumstances).

"Your client was not injured enough to go to the hospital that night. You say he sought some sort of medical treatment the next day. Do you have those medical records that you can show us?"

Relevant.

you know what else wasn't relevant? the police leaking the info about Trayvon and the reason he was suspended from school. but they did it anyway. I guess his drug test came up clean and that was all they had to smear him with.

I love the people now defending the shooting by saying that it was "justified" and how bad this kid was.

Listen, it doesn't matter if the kid had, at any point, done ANYTHING. He was not breaking any law, and he wasn't doing anything other than walking down the street.

Now, I've been wearing hoodies for over 20+ years at this point. I used to smoke a lot of weed, too. That wouldn't excuse someone assaulting me and shooting me. If someone charges you, accosts you, assaults you, and you defend yourself then YOU get shot, and the person who accosted you and assaulted you doesn't face ANY charges? There's something wrong with that picture.

That's my issue with this. This kid threw Zimmerman a beating, and you know what? Sounds like the coont had it coming. But is SHOOTING the kid justified?

No.

unchellmatt: I love the people now defending the shooting by saying that it was "justified" and how bad this kid was.

Listen, it doesn't matter if the kid had, at any point, done ANYTHING. He was not breaking any law, and he wasn't doing anything other than walking down the street.

Now, I've been wearing hoodies for over 20+ years at this point. I used to smoke a lot of weed, too. That wouldn't excuse someone assaulting me and shooting me. If someone charges you, accosts you, assaults you, and you defend yourself then YOU get shot, and the person who accosted you and assaulted you doesn't face ANY charges? There's something wrong with that picture.

That's my issue with this. This kid threw Zimmerman a beating, and you know what? Sounds like the coont had it coming. But is SHOOTING the kid justified?

No.

It really says a lot about a culture when such behavior as "taking a walk" has become suspicious activity.

/Not that new, my brother used to get hassled by cops about walking to the grocery store after work ten+ years ago.
//Not to mention the young respectable citizens who used to throw trash at him from cars on the assumption that anyone voluntarily walking was homeless or otherwise sub-human.

adiabat: maybe he thought he was going to be interviewed by a real journalist, and then found out it was O'Donnell.

Well, that's the thread right there. Nothing more to see folks :)

Wouldn't stand his ground, eh?

adiabat: maybe he thought he was going to be interviewed by a real journalist, and then found out it was O'Donnell.

O'Donnell may be boring, but he sure is obnoxious.

SecretAgentWoman: Exactly...never heard of "weed rage" unless it was against a bag of Doritos.

Hey! That bad of Doritos had it coming. It was dressed all hot and spicy too!

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Well, O'Donnell's three heads can be a bit terrifying.

Ni!

Emotional arguments aside, this guy has his job pretty much cut out for him, right?

Is there really a possibility that Zimmerman could get charged with murder? Doesn't his lawyer just need to stick to the "he was defending himself" defense? Am I missing something?

Part of me feels sorry for the guy. Odious as Zimmerman's actions were, he does have the right to an attorney, which means someone has to get called to defend the indefensible.

Only part of me feels sorry for him, though. I've seen too many of them figure out ways to worm around the law (or at least convince the juries that they've done so) just enough to let some of the most clearly guilty defendants in recent memory walk free. I have a disturbing hunch that this guy will manage to do it too.

SecretAgentWoman: ShawnDoc: Hobodeluxe: you know what else wasn't relevant? the police leaking the info about Trayvon and the reason he was suspended from school. but they did it anyway. I guess his drug test came up clean and that was all they had to smear him with.

And even if it hadn't come up clean, who gives a shiat about a little weed? Its not like smoking weed turns you into some sort of super human rape and murder machine. Although it might explain why he thought it was a good idea to go walking in the rain to purchase some skittles.

Exactly...never heard of "weed rage" unless it was against a bag of Doritos.

What about forgetting the chicken nuggets?

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"Now go and change your armor, Craig

OMG! Two people wearing hoodies! They should be shot, as they have no skittles.

Millennium: Part of me feels sorry for the guy. Odious as Zimmerman's actions were, he does have the right to an attorney, which means someone has to get called to defend the indefensible.

Well, no one said he had to book interviews on tv. He could defend the guy without a media blitz.

adiabat: maybe he thought he was going to be interviewed by a real journalist, and then found out it was O'Donnell.

What, there's something unjournalistic about screaming "LIAR! LIAR!" at your guests?

jjorsett: adiabat: maybe he thought he was going to be interviewed by a real journalist, and then found out it was O'Donnell.

What, there's something unjournalistic about screaming "LIAR! LIAR!" at your guests?

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Truth is always a shield against slander or libel. Since they were, in fact, lying, exclaiming that fact is, well, journalism.

FormlessOne: jjorsett: adiabat: maybe he thought he was going to be interviewed by a real journalist, and then found out it was O'Donnell.

What, there's something unjournalistic about screaming "LIAR! LIAR!" at your guests?

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Truth is always a shield against slander or libel. Since they were, in fact, lying, exclaiming that fact is, well, journalism.

Uh, no. Journalism is about getting the facts out. Shouting "LIAR!" isn't a fact, it's an ipse dixit.

sammyk: I don't give a shiat if the kid was walking down the street with a pound of smack tucked under his hoody. Zimmerman is not law enforcement! As he is not law enforcement he had no authority to do anything to Trayvon besides calling the cops on him. Neighborhood watch does not give you the right so much as lay a pinky finger on another human being. End of of farking discussion.

How about we base our conclusions on evidence, instead of raw emotion? The FBI is now involved and we should let them uncover what actually happened before we hang George Zimmerman or anyone else. I know we haven't got all the facts by a long shot.

FormlessOne: jjorsett: adiabat: maybe he thought he was going to be interviewed by a real journalist, and then found out it was O'Donnell.

What, there's something unjournalistic about screaming "LIAR! LIAR!" at your guests?

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Truth is always a shield against slander or libel. Since they were, in fact, lying, exclaiming that fact is, well, journalism.

Came here to say this but you beat me. That guy is of course a gutless, honourless liar and he knows it. Shouting liar at him when he continues to shamelessly and deliberately lie to everyone even when presented with the facts is a public service.

Also, Craig is a gutless and spineless chickenshiat who decided to run when he figured out O'Donnell was going to give him real questions and not the usual softballs he's been thrown. If you see this guy around be sure to make chicken noises at him and make sure that he knows that we all mark him for the vile coward that he is.

jjorsett: FormlessOne: jjorsett: adiabat: maybe he thought he was going to be interviewed by a real journalist, and then found out it was O'Donnell.

What, there's something unjournalistic about screaming "LIAR! LIAR!" at your guests?

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Truth is always a shield against slander or libel. Since they were, in fact, lying, exclaiming that fact is, well, journalism.

Uh, no. Journalism is about getting the facts out. Shouting "LIAR!" isn't a fact, it's an ipse dixit.

well during my lunch drive I was listening to Rush, he seems very concerned that there are "Obama 2012" Hoodies for sale, because according to Rush, the reason they are called "Hoodies" is because hoodlums wear them.

This is what conservative actually believe.

chaotey: Craig is a gutless and spineless chickenshiat

Yes, we know he's a lawyer.

mtb9000: Is there really a possibility that Zimmerman could get charged with murder? Doesn't his lawyer just need to stick to the "he was defending himself" defense? Am I missing something?

He can try the defense, but that only comes after the charge has been made, so assuming this guy has a day in court at all, he will almost certainly be charged with murder. Whether or not he's convicted is another question, and that's where the self-defense angle could theoretically come into play.

aug3: well during my lunch drive I was listening to Rush, he seems very concerned that there are "Obama 2012" Hoodies for sale, because according to Rush, the reason they are called "Hoodies" is because hoodlums wear them.

This is what conservative actually believe.

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What two "hoodlums" may look like:

actualhuman: It really says a lot about a culture when such behavior as "taking a walk" has become suspicious activity.

Real Americans drive their enormous SUVs with American flag, crying eagle, and "Support our Troops" stickers.

SecretAgentWoman: ShawnDoc: Hobodeluxe: you know what else wasn't relevant? the police leaking the info about Trayvon and the reason he was suspended from school. but they did it anyway. I guess his drug test came up clean and that was all they had to smear him with.

And even if it hadn't come up clean, who gives a shiat about a little weed? Its not like smoking weed turns you into some sort of super human rape and murder machine. Although it might explain why he thought it was a good idea to go walking in the rain to purchase some skittles.

Exactly...never heard of "weed rage" unless it was against a bag of Doritos.

Clearly, you haven't had the proper drug education in school.

Mercutio74: Millennium: Part of me feels sorry for the guy. Odious as Zimmerman's actions were, he does have the right to an attorney, which means someone has to get called to defend the indefensible.

Well, no one said he had to book interviews on tv. He could defend the guy without a media blitz.

Can he, I wonder? One could argue that with the media attention focused on Zimmerman's prosecution, a vigorous defense by necessity must include like elements, and interviews would be part of that.

Then again, even if this is the case -perhaps especially if this is the case- running away from an interview is not going to do his client any favors. It could even be considered a lapse in due diligence.

mtb9000: Am I missing something?

The part where Zimmerman admitted to following the kid down the street with a gun before shooting him?

Even if you buy the claim that Martin turned on Zimmerman and then Zimmerman shot while being attacked by Martin, I don't see how his earlier admission of following Martin doesn't at least warrant a charge and trial. Even if Martin did turn on Zimmerman, it seems to me that just means Martin was exercising his rights under "Stand Your Ground" by not fleeing someone who has admitted on tape to being an aggressor.

I really don't see any way that a trial isn't warranted based on the facts that have been made public. Maybe there's something someone somewhere knows that has been kept secret so far, but you'd think if that were the case and it were reasonably convincing the cops would have scrambled to make it public to try and shut down or at least calm the furor over the shooting.

"He's buggered off."

"So he has, he's scarpered!"