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yagottabefarkinkiddinme		2012-03-27 04:11:59 PM

Disciple_of_Trogdor		2012-03-27 04:12:07 PM

77 comments and no one else has done it? I guess It's up to me...

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we're taking it back!

ck1938		2012-03-27 04:12:17 PM

This reminds me of the DC sniper case where the media and Democrats were just waiting to pounce on the white, male, Christians beind the killing spree. Then when it turned out to be two gay, black, Muslims it's nothing but crickets. Now there's a Latino registered Democrat, probably an occupier, in place of what they wanted. Cue the crickets.

Amos Quito		2012-03-27 04:12:37 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Amos Quito: The politics associated with this issue are beyond stupid.

If the snowflake did punch Zimmerman, breaking his Judaeo-Hispanic nose, then banged his head on the sidewalk (as Zimmerman's version and the police report allege), Trayvon shouldn't have been surprised that he was shot.

Did hie "deserve" it? No, but if he was the aggressor, he was Darwinized.

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But this is a political hot potato that can serve to divide the nation along racial lines in a racially sensitive election year.

Obama already made the mistake of chiming in on the issue - apparently favoring the snowflake. If he's smart, he'll steer clear of this mess, otherwise he'll find himself in the middle of the maelstrom.

And if Martin wasn't the aggressor and Zimmerman was?

Meaning that Zimmerman physically assaulted Trayvon first?

Then he should be hunted down and lynched by the New Black Panthers, obviously.

/If someone does kill Zimmerman, how do they collect the $10k for performing the "service"?

IAmRight		2012-03-27 04:12:38 PM

TravisBickle62: If you punch a stranger in the face, you assume the risk he might be carrying

If you can't handle someone half your size, who has no professional training, you don't belong a) hunting him down, b) antagonizing him, or c) owning a gun.

If Martin had beaten him to death, there wouldn't be any question about Stand Your Ground, although it would have been 100 percent more applicable.

Wingchild		2012-03-27 04:13:22 PM

JackieRabbit: cgraves67: Oh, man. Now I want a racial nickname that's only derogatory when a non-member says it. white guys got no luck at all.

That's what all you crackers say. Maybe the spics, gooks, wops, and pollacks will help you feel better.

Let's not forget the other great terms, like dago, mick, kraut, guido, hymie, kike, paddy, sheeny, peckerwood, or the still-servicable 'whitey' (which doesn't carry any of the level of connotations that its cousin, 'darkey', does).

There's plenty of language to go around. We're only scratching the surface.

TravisBickle62		2012-03-27 04:13:23 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Shaggy_C: HotWingConspiracy: Yeah it sucks starting something then getting your ass kicked.

In a civilized society, no matter how nasty, hateful, and disgusting the words you use, you have a right to use them without fear of violent assault.

In a civilized society, you have the right to walk down the street with your Skittles and Iced Tea without fear of violent assault.

Unless you decide to start whaling on a total stranger ...

Shaggy_C		2012-03-27 04:13:25 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: In a civilized society, you have the right to walk down the street with your Skittles and Iced Tea without fear of violent assault.

Also true.

HotWingConspiracy		2012-03-27 04:14:54 PM

Shaggy_C: HotWingConspiracy: Yeah it sucks starting something then getting your ass kicked.

In a civilized society, no matter how nasty, hateful, and disgusting the words you use, you have a right to use them without fear of violent assault.

What if they're following you around and corner you? Also, they're armed.

TheIndependent		2012-03-27 04:15:12 PM

IAmRight: Amos Quito: Did hie "deserve" it? No, but if he was the aggressor, he was Darwinized.

I dunno, I kinda feel that if people follow you in a car and then chase you down, they deserve to be punched in the face. Don't stick your nose where it doesn't belong.

A person following another like that does deserve a punch in the face... however the puncher might also expect, given the laws on the books, to be shot.

FriarReb98		2012-03-27 04:15:34 PM

dopekitty74: What about porchmonkey? I'm taking back porchmonkey!

Just making sure this was being covered. Carry on.

\would also accept "Coons? Well raccoons tried to get in our back porch, Momma just chase 'em off with a broom!"

rufus-t-firefly		2012-03-27 04:15:54 PM

Your Guide to the Idiotic Racist Backlash Against Trayvon Martin (new window)

For a minute there, it looked like Trayvon Martin might avoid the kind of horseshiat thunderstorm that tends to accompany the shooting deaths of unarmed African-Americans. It seemed like everyone agreed that the police had farked up. Fox News had only one segment on the killing in the weeks following. Not even white racists wanted to defend Martin's killer, George Zimmerman: when I wrote about the case last week, the worst response I got was from one particularly dedicated nutcase, who set up a Twitter account to harass me for not properly specifying that Zimmerman is Hispanic.

But the horseshiat is raining down now, helped along by a desperate Sanford Police Department doing everything it can to make Martin look like he deserved to die, and by the champion point-missers of the internet right wing, who hardly need convincing that a 17-year-old black kid was up to no good.

You can see it in the incompetent and widely-circulated "investigations" into Martin's social media presence and in the sudden rise in concern among your Facebook friends over black-on-white crime. You can see it in the faux-naïve concern trolling of the National Review and Business Insider, or on the Drudge Report, where for the second day in a row notorious race hustler Matt Drudge is pimping headlines about "new details" and "multiple suspensions," accompanied by a photo of Martin, baby-faced, mugging for the camera, sparkling grill in his mouth. And you can see it outside the bodega on your way to the subway, on the front page of today's New York Post, which reads "TRAYVON HOODWINK: Tragedy hijacked by race hustlers."

...

Meanwhile, in the Miami Herald, a leaked Miami-Dade Schools Police report reveals that Martin was suspended, once for truancy and tardiness, once for "marijuana residue," and once for graffiti and "possession of a burglary tool" - a screwdriver recovered by a "school police investigator" who saw Martin write "W.T.F." on a door with marker. Inside his backpack was some jewelry, which Martin said belonged to a friend; it was confiscated, and there's no evidence at all it was stolen. The Herald writes that the "suspensions paint [a] complicated portrait of Trayvon Martin." It seems too obvious to even say, but smoking pot, skipping school, owning a screwdriver and writing on walls are not evidence of anything other than being in high school. They are certainly not capital crimes. And yet this anonymous witness and Martin's supensions are being cited as key facts - as more important, than, say, the fact that Zimmerman had a gun, and Martin didn't, or the fact that Zimmerman followed Martin, who was doing nothing wrong - by people who insist they're only interested in "truth."

...

One problem is that to those of us outside the self-shaking horseshiat snow globe, smoking weed and having tattoos aren't evidence of anything. Most of us look at all the charges marshaled against Martin and see a kid. Many of us see our friends, or ourselves. There's a tragic irony to the fact that the only people Trayvon Martin was really able to fool into thinking he was anything but a baby-faced high schooler were the same people who think he deserved to be shot.

But other problem is the terms of the debate itself. Whether or not Martin was a good kid or a bad kid, an angel or a thug, a normal teenager or a dangerous deviant, he had every right to walk in the streets of his soon-to-be-stepmother's neighborhood without fear of being shot. A criminal record, a manner of dress, a height: none of these make the shooting of an unarmed, law-abiding teenager justified. And yet here we are, forced to defend Martin's honor, as though if he had been a gangster there'd be nothing to say. As though the minute a black man is anything but a choir boy it's okay to shoot him in the street.

We should have known this was coming. Maybe not for most of last week, when for once everyone seemed to be on the same page. But we had to have known it would get here on Friday, when Fox News symbolically broke its silence on Friday morning with a Geraldo Rivera segment urging young men of color to stop wearing hoodies - so as not to get shot - the hilariously inept logic of which failed to mask its true intent, which was to shift the blame for Martin's death back on to Martin.

Piper the Great		2012-03-27 04:16:00 PM

Coon and friends?

brantgoose		2012-03-27 04:16:11 PM

Sgt Otter: I thought Coon Asses were white rednecks from Louisiana.

Is this the same friend who claimed he was calling him a goon the other day?

Yep. I reckon. The argument that the "kids" use "goon" as a term of endearment is somehow sadder than the argument that the nubianz can use that word, so why can't us cracker-barrel philosophers use it? It's a white-wash job, for sure.

Coonass allegedly is derived from the idea that the C*** is low, but the Cajun is lower, hence the C***'s ass.

But it sounds so much like something a Cajun might say, I have an inkling of a suspicion this neat tidy little racist piece of crap explanation is what linguists call a "popular derivation", like almost any explanation that employs an acronym, for example (although some new words really are acronyms, such as SCUBA, for example). Perhaps (and this is just a wild guess) it comes from the French verb connaître (to know). Or maybe I'm just blowing smoke rings.

For my theory to be right, Cajuns would have to employ the subjunctive case, which is improbable but not impossible, or else the name would have to be taken from nous connaissons or ils/elles connaissent.

Philip Francis Queeg		2012-03-27 04:16:41 PM

TravisBickle62: Philip Francis Queeg: Shaggy_C: HotWingConspiracy: Yeah it sucks starting something then getting your ass kicked.

In a civilized society, no matter how nasty, hateful, and disgusting the words you use, you have a right to use them without fear of violent assault.

In a civilized society, you have the right to walk down the street with your Skittles and Iced Tea without fear of violent assault.

Unless you decide to start whaling on a total stranger ...

By :"total stranger" do you mean the :"the armed Neighborhood watch busy body who's was following you and quite possibly initiated the violence"?

skullkrusher		2012-03-27 04:17:05 PM

Headso: mongbiohazard: HotWingConspiracy: farkerts: So, I guess IT'S ON!

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Why are the S and K highlighted?

I was curious about that too. And why he thinks that latin dude is a cracker...

he looks white enough and his last name makes him sound like a white guy...

www.thestereo.org

white guy

spongeboob		2012-03-27 04:17:18 PM

Joe Oliver
Just an attention whore of trying to get a job on Fox.
53 in pretty young to be retired these days.

HotWingConspiracy		2012-03-27 04:17:44 PM

ck1938: This reminds me of the DC sniper case where the media and Democrats were just waiting to pounce on the white, male, Christians beind the killing spree. Then when it turned out to be two gay, black, Muslims it's nothing but crickets.

Good point, that story was barely in the news. It wasn't front page for months or anything.

Now there's a Latino registered Democrat, probably an occupier, in place of what they wanted. Cue the crickets.

Another good point. The media is obviously burying this thing. I barely see any mention of it anywhere!

senzasord		2012-03-27 04:18:08 PM

I don't have a clue who did what, I just know it's not going to end well.

IAmRight		2012-03-27 04:18:18 PM

TheIndependent: A person following another like that does deserve a punch in the face... however the puncher might also expect, given the laws on the books, to be shot.

Which wouldn't really be "fearing for your life."

It would be "I was hoping he'd hit me so I'd get to shoot him and not get in trouble." Which is what this certainly appears to be.

/seriously, you're 280 lbs, Zimmerman, try rolling your fat ass sideways, that will get him off of you.

Amos Quito		2012-03-27 04:18:20 PM

Shaggy_C: Philip Francis Queeg: In a civilized society, you have the right to walk down the street with your Skittles and Iced Tea without fear of violent assault.

Also true.

But who assaulted who?

Did Zimmy run up and grab hold of Tray, or did he merely confront him and Tray, being "annoyed" that he was under suspicion, punch Zimm in the face and then jump on him?

elcnu		2012-03-27 04:18:29 PM

Look, idiots, "coon ass" means cajun, just like "nubianrdly" means stingy. Homonyms aren't synonyms.

skullkrusher		2012-03-27 04:18:45 PM

HotWingConspiracy: ck1938: This reminds me of the DC sniper case where the media and Democrats were just waiting to pounce on the white, male, Christians beind the killing spree. Then when it turned out to be two gay, black, Muslims it's nothing but crickets.

Good point, that story was barely in the news. It wasn't front page for months or anything.

Now there's a Latino registered Democrat, probably an occupier, in place of what they wanted. Cue the crickets.

Another good point. The media is obviously burying this thing. I barely see any mention of it anywhere!

wait... John Lee Malvo was gay? That changes everything!

swahnhennessy		2012-03-27 04:19:07 PM

ck1938: Now there's a Latino registered Democrat, probably an occupier, in place of what they wanted. Cue the crickets.

It's like you don't watch the news. Or think that we don't. A media storm is crickets now?

SuperNinjaToad		2012-03-27 04:19:12 PM

I'm not defending Zimmeman by any means but I honestly don;t think he shot Trayvon solely because he is black. Everything else being equal but Trayvon was a 'white' Hispanic I think nothing would have change.

There may be arguments on racial profiling and other race relation issues on a corporate level BUT the actual incident itself has nothing to do with race and it's sad that nowadays certain people want to make it into a race issue where non exists.

Rapmaster2000		2012-03-27 04:19:21 PM

MBooda: Zimmerman defends his use of the slur "coon asses"

In all fairness, he did work for a while on a fishing boat right outside Delacroix.

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Ooh, nice one. Took me a second.

Headso		2012-03-27 04:19:42 PM

skullkrusher: Headso: mongbiohazard: HotWingConspiracy: farkerts: So, I guess IT'S ON!

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Why are the S and K highlighted?

I was curious about that too. And why he thinks that latin dude is a cracker...

he looks white enough and his last name makes him sound like a white guy...

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white guy

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Evil Mackerel		2012-03-27 04:19:51 PM

Dahnkster: [i604.photobucket.com image 639x425]

If you lived here, you'd be home by now.

Put on that Tab Benoit CD. Better gimme two beers. Don't rub your eyes.

Great,now all I want to do is twist their tails off and suck oit their brains.

rufus-t-firefly		2012-03-27 04:20:05 PM

maxx2112: Coonass is an insult?

To whom, cher?

My late Grandma (a Boudreaux), for one. She HATED it.

And I'm still trying to figure out how a Hispanic guy in Florida was using a term for Cajuns to describe a black kid...but at least this guy is admitting that he DID say "coon," so that's something.

The Irresponsible Captain		2012-03-27 04:20:10 PM

xBIGxEASYx		2012-03-27 04:20:47 PM

Louisiana Air National Guard used to be know as the Coonass Militia before they got into some trouble and had to find a new nickname to Bayou Malitia.

www.5053phantoms.com

PainfulItching		2012-03-27 04:20:53 PM

I'm a Cajun, and I'm not so hot on the whole coonass thing. In fact there's a stink (no pun intended) around here right now where this local lawyer is trying to get a local radio station taken off the air for playing a locally produced song with the word coonass in it.

I'm proud of my Cajun heritage and all, but some of them old Cajuns, my grandfather included, were racist as hell. Truth be told, some of them new Cajuns are too. This used to be a blue state.

Jackson Herring		2012-03-27 04:21:01 PM

TravisBickle62: Unless you decide to start whaling on a total stranger ...

Oh look another guy in the lengthy "go fark yourself" line

brantgoose		2012-03-27 04:21:02 PM

According to the Urban Dictionary, Goon means

1. a real man, a nubianh (Florida)
2. a low level gang member (for example, a drug mule or runner, a watchman)
3. cheap boxed or bagged winie

Definitions 1 and 2 originate in drug gang slang.

It looks like calling the kid a "goon" isn't much better than calling him "c***". Pretty much of a muchness for a Neighborhood Watchman, or as they used to call them, "a vigilante".

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goon

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom		2012-03-27 04:21:14 PM

He clearly said "gooks", which makes sense considering he tried to call in a napalm strike on the unreleased 911 tape.

Wayne 985		2012-03-27 04:21:35 PM

It's okay for a man to joke that his wife is a "biatch," but if another man calls her that, he's likely to get punched in the face. Just something to consider.

Felix_T_Cat		2012-03-27 04:22:09 PM

Sgt Otter: I thought Coon Asses were white rednecks from Louisiana.

From what I understand, a coonass (Cajun) would never identify as a redneck. Coonasses consider rednecks to be 'mean spirited'.

Coonass can also be a reference to a poor person's Rube Goldberg contraption.

/If I've been able to understand my LA family properly.

Philip Francis Queeg		2012-03-27 04:22:22 PM

SuperNinjaToad: I'm not defending Zimmeman by any means but I honestly don;t think he shot Trayvon solely because he is black. Everything else being equal but Trayvon was a 'white' Hispanic I think nothing would have change.

There may be arguments on racial profiling and other race relation issues on a corporate level BUT the actual incident itself has nothing to do with race and it's sad that nowadays certain people want to make it into a race issue where non exists.

What characteristics do you think led Zimmerman to believe that Martin was a threat worthy of calling 911 about and the following him to confront him?

MrCheeks		2012-03-27 04:22:42 PM

What about Coon Hound?

/well Coonhound/Rott mix. The one in the back is a English Coonhound..

Wayne 985		2012-03-27 04:22:44 PM

SuperNinjaToad: I'm not defending Zimmeman by any means but I honestly don;t think he shot Trayvon solely because he is black. Everything else being equal but Trayvon was a 'white' Hispanic I think nothing would have change.

There may be arguments on racial profiling and other race relation issues on a corporate level BUT the actual incident itself has nothing to do with race and it's sad that nowadays certain people want to make it into a race issue where non exists.

Zimmerman did go door to door asking neighbors to be on the lookout for "black" youth.

havocmike		2012-03-27 04:23:31 PM

I've heard this before. It's a Louisiana thing, I'm told. A term of endearment.. kind of along the lines of "redneck goofball of any race."

not something you'd call a stranger you're pointing a gun at.

not in that context anyway.

/always struck me as horrible and retarded, even if intended to be innocent.
//not "taking it back"

Shaggy_C		2012-03-27 04:23:35 PM

HotWingConspiracy: What if they're following you around and corner you? Also, they're armed.

Where did this come from? As far as the official record goes, Mr. Martin was nowhere to be found. Zimmerman started walking back to his SUV. Martin then stepped out behind him, called out, and the two started a short argument. The argument resulted in Zimmerman being punched in the face and slammed to the ground.

This "being cornered" is just BS you're inserting into the story to make the assailant appear more threatened than he actually was. Also, Mr. Zimmerman had his handgun in the waistband of his pants, meaning that it was concealed. There was no way for Martin to know he was armed. If Martin actually did know that Zimmerman was armed, it makes attacking all the more idiotic.

steve_wmn		2012-03-27 04:24:20 PM

Amos Quito: The politics associated with this issue are beyond stupid.

Obama already made the mistake of chiming in on the issue - apparently favoring the snowflake. If he's smart, he'll steer clear of this mess, otherwise he'll find himself in the middle of the maelstrom.

All that Obama said was that he sympathized with the grieving parents. I don't think he expressed any judgement on the sketchy "facts" that have been made available so far.

Personally, I'd like to see the forensics on the bullet wounds. Do they support Zimmerman's claim that he was lying flat on his back getting his head pounded as he pulled the trigger or don't they? Seems kinda critical to assessing the situation to me. So far I haven't seen anything on this.

irishdncr83		2012-03-27 04:25:06 PM

My daddy's white and a coonass (read: Cajun). What now?

PYROY		2012-03-27 04:25:52 PM

My father has always proudly described himself as a coon ass, as does everyone on his side of the family.

jimpoz		2012-03-27 04:26:12 PM

engine		2012-03-27 04:26:36 PM

timujin: "Coonass" (no space, btw) isn't a reference to a black person, it's a reference to a Cajun. "Coon" is a derogatory reference to a black person. There's no overlap there.

yup

cherryl taggart		2012-03-27 04:26:39 PM

Every time I see Zimmerman's pic, my first thought is always, "Dayum, what's Chaz Bono gotten into this time?" Then, I realize Chaz has no tan.

rufus-t-firefly		2012-03-27 04:26:53 PM

SuperNinjaToad: I'm not defending Zimmeman by any means but I honestly don;t think he shot Trayvon solely because he is black. Everything else being equal but Trayvon was a 'white' Hispanic I think nothing would have change.

There may be arguments on racial profiling and other race relation issues on a corporate level BUT the actual incident itself has nothing to do with race and it's sad that nowadays certain people want to make it into a race issue where non exists.

Other than being suspicious of a "farking coon" walking through his neighborhood, of course. And following him resulted in a confrontation that ended in his death.

No race issue here.