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(Jezebel)   Why do some fans of "The Hunger Games" have to be racist idiots? Not gonna lie, kinda ruins the Internet   (jezebel.com) divider line 96
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2012-03-27 08:35:38 AM  
6 votes:
Wow, some of those posts reminded me of the closing arguments from A Time to Kill where Jake goes through the horrific description of the little girls death then closes with "Now imagine she's white."
2012-03-27 09:07:34 AM  
5 votes:
What do you think it's like being one of the reporters who write articles like this? All those years of journalism school, only to spend your time writing articles about the things stupid people say on Twitter.
2012-03-27 08:35:43 AM  
5 votes:
How come Katmiss has to be a chick? That only makes sense if the Hunger Games could be won by making a delicious roast and having it on the table for her man when he gets home from work, and would it kill you to put on some makeup, for Christ's sake? I'm going down to the lodge.
2012-03-27 12:26:36 PM  
4 votes:
Why do Twitter comments merit a story? Not gonna lie, feels kinda silly to me.
2012-03-27 10:03:24 AM  
4 votes:

Confabulat: Peeta is a pussy. I'm Team Gale all the way.


Team Haymitch has the booze
Team Haymitch wins.
2012-03-27 02:10:16 PM  
3 votes:
Those tweets are sad. The girl who played Rue was effing adorable. The book describes her as dark skinned, she reminds her of Prim, so she's a petite dark skinned girl with an air of innocence in a horrible world. Dammit what the fark happened to reading comprehension?

What I was more upset about was that it's supposed to be America, and yet only blacks and whites were represented. I remember watching the reaping scene and seeing a sea of white characters, and then it cuts to a lone black person and made me think WTF. Hollywood has been really bad about racial diversity in their movies lately as a whole. If there is a minority casted, they must be as stereotypical as possible. If it's a movie about minorities, there must be a lead white character that acts as the "savior" of the minorities or it must be about the stereotypical problems minorities face. I'm starting to get the impression they think minorities aren't qualified to tell their own stories or take part in any others' stories.

I'm ranting, but whatever, I've been ranting on this a long time. It's like the Spiderman change. People of nonwhite race read stories and watch movies about white characters and identify just fine, but white people can't do the same because their skin color isn't the same? WTF?
2012-03-27 11:36:52 AM  
3 votes:
It is somewhat hard for me to express just how little I know about this series and, yet, how tired I am of hearing about it every other minute.
2012-03-27 11:05:49 AM  
3 votes:
Why did Metallica release anything after The Black Album? Not gonna lie, kinda ruined my opinion of them.
2012-03-27 10:48:09 AM  
3 votes:
Why do black holes have to be black not gonna lie kinda ruined space time
2012-03-27 08:32:31 AM  
3 votes:
What else did you expect from adults who read at a fourth grade level?
2012-03-27 11:29:47 PM  
2 votes:

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: rocky_howard:

Asian kids have blue eyes? News to me!


[img282.imageshack.us image 500x375]

True, that definitely can't happen in real life, except that sometimes it does, but as already discussed the world of Avatar is a *fantastical* world based on Asia, not a representation of the PRC. Blue eyes here and there don't mean that everyone important to the story becomes white and Sarah Palin is Fire Lord.


I always thought the benders' eyes match the color of the element they bend, and that's why the Water Tribe people have blue eyes, and the Fire Nation have orange/gold.
2012-03-27 02:46:55 PM  
2 votes:

mekki:

I have my father's (Irish) coloring. I am pale pink with freckles. I am saying that white people come in different colors, such as my dad's pale pink skin and my mother's olive skin and you are changing this to...what are you saying? What is this? Dammit, now I really need some Aspirin

Must I really post the pic of Jared and Jensen one more time?

/just stop
//seriously...


1. Race is a societal construct.
2. The idea of you being white or not being white is entirely dependent on society. You were not white 100 years ago. You can be white now.
3. Barack Obama may be considered white in 200 years if everyone decides that he is.
4. You assert that you "should" be considered white because white people can come in many colors. However, your inclusion in being "white" is predicated on the exclusion of someone else being "white" based on criteria that you are defining. Simultaneously, you are decrying the criteria that others use to exclude you from being "white".

Basically, you are deciding who is and who is not white while at the same time decrying some imaginary person for not considering you white.

Also, stop with the "you are making my head hurt" shiat. You're an adult.
2012-03-27 01:38:47 PM  
2 votes:

mekki: Rapmaster2000: mekki:
//loathe the ongoing ignorant notion that "white" people come in only one shade of "white"

You know, some might consider it ignorant that you demand greater inclusiveness for those who may be considered white, rather than eschewing the entire notion of race that kept you as inferior Americans until about 100 years ago.

[media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

I'm still going, "huh."

Why is it every time you inform that Caucasians come in more than one flavor, someone always goes, "That's racist!?" What? Huh?

/seriously, huh?


It's not complicated and I'm not calling you a racist. That you desire to be part of a race that would exclude you while simultaneously accepting the idea of race is mind-boggling.

You have a peeve because you think other white people don't consider you white enough. Do you have any idea how negative that is towards yourself?
2012-03-27 12:59:06 PM  
2 votes:

mekki:
//loathe the ongoing ignorant notion that "white" people come in only one shade of "white"


You know, some might consider it ignorant that you demand greater inclusiveness for those who may be considered white, rather than eschewing the entire notion of race that kept you as inferior Americans until about 100 years ago.
2012-03-27 12:48:51 PM  
2 votes:
The author makes fun of the people commenting on Rue and Thresh but seems to have no problem with people saying Katniss should be Native American or or non-white because she is described as olive skinned? Olive skin can be found on people from the Mediterranean area. Areas like Southern France, Southern Spain, Italy and Greek as well as the Middle East. Many people who would be considered white. But instead of the pink and orange undertones of Northern and North Eastern Europeans, they have green undertones. Hence, olive. You know where you don't find olive skin on people? Native Americans, Asians and people from the Southern parts of Africa, which all have been suggested as a ethnicity for Katniss.

My mother's family are all olive skinned from Spain. And to look at them you couldn't call them anything but white. In fact, they are often mistaken for Italians and Southern French.

/just a pet peeve of mine
//loathe the ongoing ignorant notion that "white" people come in only one shade of "white"
2012-03-27 12:36:53 PM  
2 votes:
Didn't some people also get upset when Mos Def was cast in Hitchhiker's Guide? Of course, this was before the days of Twitter, so that idiocy wasn't nearly as loud as this one.
2012-03-27 12:28:19 PM  
2 votes:
These are the same people who thought it was perfectly fine that these Asian kids:

www.toplessrobot.com

were played by these white actors:

media.tumblr.com
2012-03-27 12:26:59 PM  
2 votes:

brigid_fitch: Cinna's skin is implied in the book. He's from District 11, whose members, according to the book, all have dark skin and dark hair. Collins herself says that District 11 is the Deep South and is mostly populated by African Americans.


Did Collins say that about Cinna? I guess I'd be willing to believe it if she said so, but it doesn't seem in character for the Capitol to promote even a fashion prodigy from the Districts.

I don't recall anything in the books indicating that he was from anywhere but the Capitol.
2012-03-27 12:26:06 PM  
2 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: thismomentinblackhistory: It looks like one of the accounts was either hacked or is trying to CYA with parody....

[i.imgur.com image 511x525]

Talk about parody:

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next we will be voting on her wedding dress


Glad to know that I'm not the only one who found all of the Hunger Games mania and fixation on the cast quite ironic in light of the book contents. Lets make a big media splash about a books series that heavily mocks those media splashes and is quite opposed to them.
2012-03-27 12:23:24 PM  
2 votes:
Why did Betty have to be black not gonna lie kinda ruins bam ba lam.
2012-03-27 12:13:38 PM  
2 votes:
This kind of reminds me of Mass Effect 3. I was reading user reviews and looking at some of the comments on YouTube recently. When people found out there was a gay character, most were okay with it, but some people went berserk and claimed it "ruined" the franchise for them.
2012-03-27 10:03:02 AM  
2 votes:
FTFA: "Cinna's skin is not discussed in the book, so truthfully, though Lenny Kravitz was cast, a white, Asian or Latino actor could have played the part."

Yes, Cinna's skin is implied in the book. He's from District 11, whose members, according to the book, all have dark skin and dark hair. Collins herself says that District 11 is the Deep South and is mostly populated by African Americans.

So no, moron author, a white or Asian actor couldn't have played Cinna, Rue, or Thresh. If anything, yell at Collins for making District 11, the food & cotton district, (and the only one that riots in the movie) populated by African Americans. THEN you'd have a better argument.

/Not that I would agree with that argument but at least it doesn't sound as asinine as the one in TFA.
2012-03-27 09:07:46 AM  
2 votes:
It looks like one of the accounts was either hacked or is trying to CYA with parody....

i.imgur.com
2012-03-27 09:02:30 AM  
2 votes:
I love how they scurry like rats when their Tweets are publicized.
2012-03-27 08:45:17 AM  
2 votes:
Peeta is a pussy. I'm Team Gale all the way.
2012-03-28 04:57:09 AM  
1 votes:

ExperianScaresCthulhu: The other issue, of heritage and identity, also comes into play. How does the child who's parents do not identify with one another, identify his or herself? what happens when the child identifies in a way which is not socially acceptable? what happens when the child declines to say 'mixed' and says 'X'?


I'm gonna lead off with

forums.watchuseek.com

Then, I'm gonna say: If you are asking this question and aren't of mixed heritage yourself, you can step back and fark your own face. fark you, fark your socially acceptable identifications and fark your "concern" about the whole thing. We'll farking identify however we feel comfortable.
2012-03-28 03:38:13 AM  
1 votes:
I was interested in HG when I heard a movie about a book with native american heroine was finally being made.

Til I found out she was white. Hollywood fails yet again.
2012-03-28 12:22:17 AM  
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Mike Chewbacca: rocky_howard: Mike Chewbacca: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: rocky_howard:

Asian kids have blue eyes? News to me!


[img282.imageshack.us image 500x375]

True, that definitely can't happen in real life, except that sometimes it does, but as already discussed the world of Avatar is a *fantastical* world based on Asia, not a representation of the PRC. Blue eyes here and there don't mean that everyone important to the story becomes white and Sarah Palin is Fire Lord.

I always thought the benders' eyes match the color of the element they bend, and that's why the Water Tribe people have blue eyes, and the Fire Nation have orange/gold.

Hey, that makes lots of sense. I wonder if it's the official reason.

I have no idea. I may have simply "logicked" my way out of being mad about Inuit people having blue eyes on the show, but I think it makes sense. Plus, the creators did a great job with getting every detail right (including the exit burn on the bottom of Aang's foot after Azula zotted him while he was in the Avatar State). I just get the feeling these guys pay attention to every detail, and that nothing is an accident.

It's a cool idea, but I don't think so: the characters in the show are unable to tell by looking whether someone is a bender, what they bend, or even what nation they're from, so I don't think the eyes could be that kind of telltale. (Brown would be a slightly odd choice to represent air, too.)

It's maybe worth mentioning that a lot of the characters are from the same couple of families...maybe it's just part of giving them some family resemblance.

I haven't examined every character's eyes, but Water Tribe people ALL seem to have blue eyes, not just the Waterbenders. Aang has gray eyes, but of course he's the only Air Nomad left so that could just be an Avatar thingie. And Zuko's whole family has the orangey-gold. Toph has monochrome eyes, and I can't remember any of the other Earthbender's names, so I didn't look that u ...


Well, my point is that if eye color were a nation or bending tipoff then the characters would be given away (at least enough to generate suspicion) on the many many occasions where someone is passing for something they are not. The same way that their names raise questions when they forget to disguise them.

Aang's eyes vary. I think part of that attention to detail you mentioned is that they are careful to show reflections.

/fwiw, I checked on the swamp waterbenders, brownish eyes there
2012-03-28 12:02:41 AM  
1 votes:

rocky_howard: Mike Chewbacca: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: rocky_howard:

Asian kids have blue eyes? News to me!


[img282.imageshack.us image 500x375]

True, that definitely can't happen in real life, except that sometimes it does, but as already discussed the world of Avatar is a *fantastical* world based on Asia, not a representation of the PRC. Blue eyes here and there don't mean that everyone important to the story becomes white and Sarah Palin is Fire Lord.

I always thought the benders' eyes match the color of the element they bend, and that's why the Water Tribe people have blue eyes, and the Fire Nation have orange/gold.

Hey, that makes lots of sense. I wonder if it's the official reason.


I have no idea. I may have simply "logicked" my way out of being mad about Inuit people having blue eyes on the show, but I think it makes sense. Plus, the creators did a great job with getting every detail right (including the exit burn on the bottom of Aang's foot after Azula zotted him while he was in the Avatar State). I just get the feeling these guys pay attention to every detail, and that nothing is an accident.
2012-03-27 10:38:19 PM  
1 votes:

BorgiaGinz: CityExile: Didn't some people also get upset when Mos Def was cast in Hitchhiker's Guide? Of course, this was before the days of Twitter, so that idiocy wasn't nearly as loud as this one.

I was upset about Mos Def, not because he's black but because A) he's American and B) he can't act. Same objections to casting Zooey Deschanel as Trillian. Sam Rockwell CAN act, but his choice to play Zaphod Beeblebrox as an even more retarded Dubya was asinine.

If the producers wanted a black Ford Prefect, they should have gone with Lenny Henry.


Personally I thought Mos Def's performance was one of the better things in the movie, although that's not saying much.
2012-03-27 10:02:13 PM  
1 votes:

raygundan: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: It was at least as problematic that they ended up using exclusively-white leads with non-white extras and villains.

This is where I'm probably going to get beat up again, but the artwork for several of the lead characters in the original cartoon differs dramatically from a lot of the "extras" in the cartoon, too. Aang in particular-- I actually thought he was from an ethnic minority within his culture.


I think the intentionally anime-influenced style (and Aang's youth) accounts for the big round eyes. FWIW, here's how the show's creator drew him for a poster (possibly to make a point):

www.racebending.com

But really, there isn't that much to go on in the cartoon's character design (and Aang was adopted, after all, so...). I just never saw any reason to suspect that he was a lone dark-haired white kid who had hooked up with a monastery full of Asians of similar skin tone and lived in a basically Asian culture where no one ever seemed to find him unusual (when they weren't aware he was the Avatar).

Incidentally, Zuko could hardly be more clearly Asian, and they originally cast a white guy even in that part (who, to be fair, looks more like Zuko than the actor they eventually went with).
2012-03-27 09:45:14 PM  
1 votes:

Whizzy: The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img535.imageshack.us image 640x512]

Greatest casting evar!

Out of every thing wrong with that movie, Michael Clarke Duncan playing Kingpin is at the bottom of the list.


My mind has Michael Clarke Duncan cast as Kalam in the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

/Yes, I know nobody gives a shiat about that...
2012-03-27 09:21:15 PM  
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img535.imageshack.us image 640x512]

Greatest casting evar!


Out of every thing wrong with that movie, Michael Clarke Duncan playing Kingpin is at the bottom of the list.
2012-03-27 08:57:26 PM  
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img535.imageshack.us image 640x512]

Greatest casting evar!


Kind of makes sense. It's a gangsta in modern day Brooklyn. I was thinking Notorious BIG myself.
2012-03-27 08:38:20 PM  
1 votes:
img535.imageshack.us

Greatest casting evar!
2012-03-27 07:20:19 PM  
1 votes:

nono.melon: Those tweets are sad. The girl who played Rue was effing adorable. The book describes her as dark skinned, she reminds her of Prim, so she's a petite dark skinned girl with an air of innocence in a horrible world. Dammit what the fark happened to reading comprehension?

What I was more upset about was that it's supposed to be America, and yet only blacks and whites were represented. I remember watching the reaping scene and seeing a sea of white characters, and then it cuts to a lone black person and made me think WTF. Hollywood has been really bad about racial diversity in their movies lately as a whole. If there is a minority casted, they must be as stereotypical as possible. If it's a movie about minorities, there must be a lead white character that acts as the "savior" of the minorities or it must be about the stereotypical problems minorities face. I'm starting to get the impression they think minorities aren't qualified to tell their own stories or take part in any others' stories.

I'm ranting, but whatever, I've been ranting on this a long time. It's like the Spiderman change. People of nonwhite race read stories and watch movies about white characters and identify just fine, but white people can't do the same because their skin color isn't the same? WTF?


District 12 per Collins is in Appalachia. You'd be VERY hard pressed to find a black person in deep Appalachia.

That being said, I wonder why no one is screaming that Haymitch, who is described in the book as having dark hair, dark eyes and olive skin, was played by blond, blue-eyed Woody Harrelson.

/always saw Jeff Goldblum as Haymitch for some reason
2012-03-27 07:06:55 PM  
1 votes:

Splish: What else did you expect from adults who read at a fourth grade level?


Nice one. Boobies in pretty much sums it all up.

My mother has a friend, probably in her 50s, that reads the Twilight books. Look at how many adults flock to Harry Potter films like we as children did to Star Wars. How about adult men who read comic books...oh excuse me "Graphic Novels" (i.e. books for dummies). My favorite is the adults that get their panties in a bunch should their favorite Scifi TV series have anything above a 12th grade level in complexity or thought.

Maybe the world is just overly complex and this is a means for some to withdraw back to a safer environment. Or maybe some people are just farking morons who can't grow up (looking at you 50 year old Star Wars comic book guys who spend your lives biatching and moaning about who shot first)
2012-03-27 06:45:31 PM  
1 votes:

HellRaisingHoosier: People still care about race? Common! We have a black man as President of the United States.


Yes, I know, it is shocking. Particularly as everyone immediately accepted said black man as President without ever using any racist imagery to attack him, questioning his legitimacy, labelling him a traitor, or railing against him every chance they could, even over issues that predate his administration, fall well outside the Executive or even make absolutely no sense at all.
2012-03-27 06:11:13 PM  
1 votes:

raygundan: Mike Chewbacca: raygundan: Mike Chewbacca: by these white actors:

That word... I do not think it means what you think it means.

Sorry, I should have put quotes around "actors."

You won't catch any argument from me on that one.

I think I'm too old to be part of the generation that grew up with the cartoon, so there's potentially influences from outside the storyline that could reinforce the Asian stereotypes-- but when I watched it (free of toy tie-ins and playground chatter), one of the things I enjoyed most was how none of the cultures or races appeared to be direct real-world ripoffs. I thought it was genuinely novel in that regard, since relying on stereotypes is so much easier.

I was genuinely surprised to find out later that so many other people thought of everyone in the entire story as a sort of badly-stereotyped Asian martial artist. Perhaps it's because the target audience was younger, and saw things more simply when they watched it the first time? If you're eight, everyone in an igloo is an Eskimo, and everybody who does Karate is Asian.

I'll admit that it made me a bit grumpy. One of the things I thought most unique about the cartoon was something that was not only not noticed by other people-- they had actually taken the exact opposite away from it. Most people I talk to didn't see a fictional blending of multiple cultures without regard to race-- they saw four kinds of Asian kids doing magic karate. And to rub salt in it, they not only saw it differently-- they're offended that I saw anything besides Asian kids in the first place.


Actually, the think what I liked the MOST about it was that the writers and illustrators worked hard to bring some realism into what could have been a completely bland fantasy setting. The different nations practiced different forms of martial arts (from wikipedia): The show's creators based each Bending style on an existing martial art, leading to clear visual and physical differences in the techniques used by waterbenders (T'ai chi ch'uan), Earthbenders (Hung Ga kung fu, for the most part), Firebenders (Northern Shaolin kung fu) and Airbenders (Baguazhang). Their cultures were all based on real-world Asian cultures, although obviously not 100% accurate since -bending technology would affect any group's culture. Everything about their culture and language clearly shows they are Asian, except they speak English and aren't painted yellow so you think they're not actually Asian. Half the voice actors speak with obvious Asian accents, be it Japanese, Chinese, or Korean. Hell, I'm pretty sure I heard some Native American accents in the show.

I think it's awesome the show is about Asians. I also think it says a lot about you that you think they're not actually Asian.
i^2
2012-03-27 05:55:32 PM  
1 votes:

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Add in the notion that looking as white as possible is most acceptable in one's 'exotics'...

Mixed babies are not the prettiest babies. They're just mixed.


Skin colour is independent of attractiveness. Across all tested racial and cultural groups, faces are judged as attractive when they are (mathematically) average and symmetrical, which can be demonstrated by showing people photographs of artificial faces composited from a number of real photographs.

When people from different racial groups interbreed, due to multifactorial inheritence there is a tendency toward averaging whatever "deviation from average" features might be present in either population, resulting in children who are "more average" than either of their parents, and therefore, objectively more attractive. So mixed babies are, in fact, the prettiest*. :-)

All babies are beautiful. Even the ugly purebred lower caste ones ;)

While that's a lovely sentiment, it's demonstrably untrue.

*This is an oversimplification, as further research shows that the most attractive features actually do deviate from "average" in certain ways.
2012-03-27 04:31:44 PM  
1 votes:
I was chatting about this earlier. I pointed out that Sneakers is a good example of a movie that has black people in roles that both matter specifically to the character and roles that it doesn't matter what race the character is. Sidney Poitier's character needed to be black (I won't give away why in case you've never seen it). James Earl Jones' character didn't need to be black. I enjoyed them as actors in either case.

Then there's the movie industry completely farking up race issues: Chun in Remo Williams is a good example.
2012-03-27 04:15:14 PM  
1 votes:
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2012-03-27 04:04:24 PM  
1 votes:

mekki: Why is it every time you inform that Caucasians come in more than one flavor, someone always goes, "That's racist!?" What? Huh?


Why not just say "Europeans"? Caucasian is an inaccurate term that was discredited decades ago.
2012-03-27 03:24:54 PM  
1 votes:

KatjaMouse: HellRaisingHoosier: People still care about race? Common! We have a black man as President of the United States.

A year ago, when my parents and grandparents found out that my younger sister was seeing a black guy, they all refused to even talk with her. We're not even talking about some drug lord thug wannabe either. I mean, raised in Oakton, VA with a Masters in Political Science from UVA. Nope, still wouldn't talk to her. Turns out, straight from the horse's mouth, mom would've taken it better if it turned out sis was a lesbian instead.


Why does my her boyfriend have to be black? Not gonna lie, kinda ruined my daughter for me.

/Sorry! I just couldn't resist.
2012-03-27 03:24:30 PM  
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: KatjaMouse: Mike Chewbacca: These are the same people who thought it was perfectly fine that these Asian kids:

[www.toplessrobot.com image 619x337]

were played by these white actors:

[media.tumblr.com image 454x676]

Ummm... the villain was played by an Indian dude. This just added even more insult to the casting.

Yeah, I know, but I was trying to point out the white-ness of the cast. Yes, the one brown person cast as a major character in the series was Indian and not Asian, and he played the bad guy. FAIL

/just blew through the series again during a bout of the stomach flu, and now I want to re-watch the movie just to remind myself how bad it is.


though it clearly is still at odds with the cartoon, at least the entire fire nation seemed to be indian (or at least as far as i remember), so there was some semblance of continuity there. i don't have a problem with them giving the different nations clearly different ethnicities.

however, i do remember the water nation looking generally inuit (which also would have been ok) but that all the main characters were clearly white.
2012-03-27 03:12:53 PM  
1 votes:
So this is what I'm missing without a twitter account, eh?
2012-03-27 03:11:45 PM  
1 votes:

Nix Nightbird: moothemagiccow: quoinguy: Didn't some people complain the gate keeper in Thor was black? Those complaints were lame, too.

Heimdall being black was a little ridiculous, but the actor was good and didn't call anyone a jive turkey. What was even more ridiculous was that one of the Asgardian warriors was Japanese, and had a Japanese accent. Like he just moved to Asgard from Japan. Riiight

This was based on the comic book, not the Norse myths. In one version of the comic book, Heimdall is an ebony-skinned giant of an Asgardian. And across ALL Marvel Comics versions of Thor, Hogun is a Mongolian-style warrior.

Honestly, in Thor I was MOST offended that they made Volstagg too damn skinny. He's supposed to look like this:

[www.wildsoundmovies.com image 300x422]
[www.bamkapow.com image 400x402]


And in the movie he looks like this:

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He's called "The Voluminous Volstagg" for a reason.

/Sif was hot, though, so I overlook it.


Hey now, Ray Stevenson is pretty awesome. You do NOT mess with Titus Pullo!

www.itusozluk.com

/if I got a pit bull, I'd name it Titus Pullo.
2012-03-27 03:04:06 PM  
1 votes:

mekki: Rapmaster2000: mekki:
//loathe the ongoing ignorant notion that "white" people come in only one shade of "white"

You know, some might consider it ignorant that you demand greater inclusiveness for those who may be considered white, rather than eschewing the entire notion of race that kept you as inferior Americans until about 100 years ago.

[media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

I'm still going, "huh."

Why is it every time you inform that Caucasians come in more than one flavor, someone always goes, "That's racist!?" What? Huh?

/seriously, huh?


I thought Rapmaster was saying that 100 years ago none of those darker shades of white would have been considered 'white' in the first place.. I thought he was saying that, instead of seeking to be considered part of the upper caste status quo -- white -- and arguing for 'more shades of pale' to be included; that it would be better to shrug off the entire notion of race in the first place. You know?
2012-03-27 03:02:46 PM  
1 votes:

Summer Glau's Love Slave: And what color is the REAL Nick Fury!?!

/Light tan actually.
//And who is that new, Nubian wannbe?


You probably already know this but Ultimate Nick Fury is based on Samuel L. Jackson. In 2001, the artist even asked Jackson if he could use his likeness and, when he said yes,the writer began writing the character as Jackson (well, the badass Jackson from most of his movies).

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2012-03-27 03:02:42 PM  
1 votes:

serial_crusher: What do you think it's like being one of the reporters who write articles like this? All those years of journalism school, only to spend your time writing articles about the things stupid people say on Twitter.



Seriously. We have a dangerous shortage of good journalism today, and this is the shiat we get instead. "OMG, a handful of idiots said something dumb on Twitter!"

News flash - there are a lot of stupid people in the world, and they occasionally say things. Since they are stupid, those things they say are often stupid.


KatjaMouse: Although, Donald Glover did point out that if you just read Spiderman as a book instead of a comic and just imagined the character, a poor kid living in Queens with his aunt and witnessed his uncle get killed in a violent crime, you'd likely picture a black or latino kid first.



Not if you lived around there in the 1960's when it was written.
2012-03-27 02:59:33 PM  
1 votes:

moothemagiccow: quoinguy: Didn't some people complain the gate keeper in Thor was black? Those complaints were lame, too.

Heimdall being black was a little ridiculous, but the actor was good and didn't call anyone a jive turkey. What was even more ridiculous was that one of the Asgardian warriors was Japanese, and had a Japanese accent. Like he just moved to Asgard from Japan. Riiight


This was based on the comic book, not the Norse myths. In one version of the comic book, Heimdall is an ebony-skinned giant of an Asgardian. And across ALL Marvel Comics versions of Thor, Hogun is a Mongolian-style warrior.

Honestly, in Thor I was MOST offended that they made Volstagg too damn skinny. He's supposed to look like this:

www.wildsoundmovies.com
www.bamkapow.com


And in the movie he looks like this:

i1076.photobucket.com


He's called "The Voluminous Volstagg" for a reason.

/Sif was hot, though, so I overlook it.
2012-03-27 02:13:42 PM  
1 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: moothemagiccow: quoinguy: Didn't some people complain the gate keeper in Thor was black? Those complaints were lame, too.

Heimdall being black was a little ridiculous, but the actor was good and didn't call anyone a jive turkey. What was even more ridiculous was that one of the Asgardian warriors was Japanese, and had a Japanese accent. Like he just moved to Asgard from Japan. Riiight

Look man Thor loved to get a little strange on the side and that dude is from the time Thor and Raijin had a little party. Some tunes were played, some drugs were consumed, some lighting was thrown around and nine months later a bouncing baby Asian Asgardian was born.


I'm a darkie and I was pretty incredulous when they revealed that Idris Elba would be playing Heimdall in the Thor movie. I'm not a fan of whitewashing and I'm not a fan of token blacks or affirmative action casting either. But holy crap did he do a fantastic job with Heimdall. Coolest farking thing about that movie, pretty much.

As for the Asian fella being referred to, that was Hogun the Grim. He's not from Asgard, but rather a sort of Mongolia/Middle East hybrid kind of magical land. So it's not stunt casting there.
2012-03-27 01:55:03 PM  
1 votes:
i171.photobucket.com

Why does the cover have to be black? Not gonna lie, kinda ruined the book.
2012-03-27 01:53:54 PM  
1 votes:
The good news? The Hunger Games made $155 million at the box office its opening weekend, making it the third-best debut in North American box office history.

This is good news for the people associated with the film, not for anyone else.
2012-03-27 01:53:36 PM  
1 votes:

Malcolm_Sex: How many of these twitter tards were Americans? They seem to be the only ones who still get hung up on this race garbage


lol, okay, try being black in Russia (new window) or Japan (new window) Or pretty much any Anglo Saxon Majority European country.
2012-03-27 01:35:00 PM  
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: wildstarr: The internet has taught me that most girls between 13 ~ 25 are THE stupidest segment of the human race.

Thank you internet!

Only just behind males ages 13-25.



Never underestimate the power of 10 million pimple faced nerds with a computer.

Stupid is relative.
2012-03-27 01:33:00 PM  
1 votes:
How many of these twitter tards were Americans? They seem to be the only ones who still get hung up on this race garbage
2012-03-27 01:32:04 PM  
1 votes:
Why did Nelson Flavin have to be born a poor black child? Not gonna lie, kinda ruined The Jerk for me.
2012-03-27 01:30:04 PM  
1 votes:
It was long enough since I read the books that I honestly couldn't remember what color the district 11 tributes were supposed to be.

Not that it matters. The way I see it, unless someone's race is important to the plot, they can cast whatever race they please for the role. Since it's supposed to be a disutopian version of North America, I suppose it makes good sense to have at least a couple of black people on the cast regardless of what was spelled out in the books, and the district 11 tributes and Cinna were as good characters as any to show that black people still exist in the (admittedly screwed up) future.


I remember watching the commentary of a Game of Thrones episode by the author of the books the series is based on. On several occasions he commented how the purists were upset at one point or another, but he couldn't care less because the changes either didn't influence the actual story or were made due to practical filming reasons.
2012-03-27 01:30:01 PM  
1 votes:
The internet has taught me that most girls between 13 ~ 25 are THE stupidest segment of the human race.

Thank you internet!
2012-03-27 01:21:13 PM  
1 votes:

redsquid: If all your problems are nails...

Stop playing into the media's bullshiat. Someone high up wants race issues to be at the forefront of your mind this election cycle.


HAHAHAHA!!!!!! Yeah, Trayvon Martin and The Hunger Games were ingenious plots to undermine the fine candidates the GOP is shilling. Next you'll be telling us there is no War on Women and Rush was a victim.
2012-03-27 01:20:51 PM  
1 votes:

KatjaMouse: Mike Chewbacca: These are the same people who thought it was perfectly fine that these Asian kids:

[www.toplessrobot.com image 619x337]

were played by these white actors:

[media.tumblr.com image 454x676]

Ummm... the villain was played by an Indian dude. This just added even more insult to the casting.


Yeah, I know, but I was trying to point out the white-ness of the cast. Yes, the one brown person cast as a major character in the series was Indian and not Asian, and he played the bad guy. FAIL

/just blew through the series again during a bout of the stomach flu, and now I want to re-watch the movie just to remind myself how bad it is.
2012-03-27 01:19:50 PM  
1 votes:
Why did dog have to black? Not gonna lie, kind ruins the way I make you sweat, make you groove.
2012-03-27 01:18:31 PM  
1 votes:
not surprising. I remember seeing an interview with kids about the cast of the first Harry Potter movie, and nearly every person indirectly described how they thought their favorite character would look more like themselves.
2012-03-27 01:15:07 PM  
1 votes:

Wayne 985: Ultimate Spider-Man died and was replaced with a half-black, half-Latino kid. It wasn't even the same character, but Fox News and other people sh** their pants in anger.


Although, Donald Glover did point out that if you just read Spiderman as a book instead of a comic and just imagined the character, a poor kid living in Queens with his aunt and witnessed his uncle get killed in a violent crime, you'd likely picture a black or latino kid first.
2012-03-27 01:13:09 PM  
1 votes:

wiwille: Using black actors to play characters that were historically white? Who would go see that?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x309]

/In the above reference, no one apparently.
//Some days I hope to see a black Superman film just to watch the internet explode.


Ultimate Spider-Man died and was replaced with a half-black, half-Latino kid. It wasn't even the same character, but Fox News and other people sh** their pants in anger.
2012-03-27 01:11:35 PM  
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: These are the same people who thought it was perfectly fine that these Asian kids:

[www.toplessrobot.com image 619x337]

were played by these white actors:

[media.tumblr.com image 454x676]


Ummm... the villain was played by an Indian dude. This just added even more insult to the casting.
2012-03-27 01:11:04 PM  
1 votes:

wiwille: Some days I hope to see a black Superman film just to watch the internet explode.


Why can't Superman be black? He's from Krypton, so as an alien he could be any color.
2012-03-27 01:07:44 PM  
1 votes:

wiwille: //Some days I hope to see a black Superman film just to watch the internet explode.


Yeah, right -- like anyone would believe a brown-skinned kid was related to a couple of Kansas farmers.
2012-03-27 01:05:14 PM  
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: mekki:
//loathe the ongoing ignorant notion that "white" people come in only one shade of "white"

You know, some might consider it ignorant that you demand greater inclusiveness for those who may be considered white, rather than eschewing the entire notion of race that kept you as inferior Americans until about 100 years ago.


media.tumblr.com

I'm still going, "huh."

Why is it every time you inform that Caucasians come in more than one flavor, someone always goes, "That's racist!?" What? Huh?

/seriously, huh?
2012-03-27 01:02:03 PM  
1 votes:

brigid_fitch: FTFA: "Cinna's skin is not discussed in the book, so truthfully, though Lenny Kravitz was cast, a white, Asian or Latino actor could have played the part."

Yes, Cinna's skin is implied in the book. He's from District 11, .


What books says that? All I remember was he "looks normal for a capital citizen" which implies he wasn't born there but it is never said where he is born. Other than that he is described as short brown hair (that isn't dyed) and green eyes.
2012-03-27 12:58:48 PM  
1 votes:

stevie1der: brigid_fitch: FTFA: "Cinna's skin is not discussed in the book, so truthfully, though Lenny Kravitz was cast, a white, Asian or Latino actor could have played the part."

Yes, Cinna's skin is implied in the book. He's from District 11, whose members, according to the book, all have dark skin and dark hair. Collins herself says that District 11 is the Deep South and is mostly populated by African Americans.

So no, moron author, a white or Asian actor couldn't have played Cinna, Rue, or Thresh. If anything, yell at Collins for making District 11, the food & cotton district, (and the only one that riots in the movie) populated by African Americans. THEN you'd have a better argument.

/Not that I would agree with that argument but at least it doesn't sound as asinine as the one in TFA.

I don't recall Cinna ever being from district 11 in the books, where was that?


It wasn't. I have no idea what FTFA is talking about but in the books people from the Districts could not move to the Capitol and be whatever. Unless you were in the Hunger Games you were born and raised in your District and the you died there as well. Not even people like The Mayor in Katniss' District was able to venture out. It was like a form of slavery. You weren't allowed to leave the plantation or in this case, the District, without permission from the Master or in this case The Capitol. And 99% of population weren't.

So, Cinna was a Capitol citizen. He just wasn't a clueless one who saw the games as a fun for all, battle of wits and brawn and the pride of Panem. He understood it for what it was, a punishment and a way to keep the masses in order. That's probably why he didn't get all dolled up like the rest of the Capitol. He wanted to stand apart from everyone else. It was his form of protest.
2012-03-27 12:58:21 PM  
1 votes:
And people got angry because a Norse god in the movie Thor was black as well. Too many white people have nothing better to do than get angry over stupid shiat.
2012-03-27 12:57:26 PM  
1 votes:
Why does the unfortunate guy who stuck his head in a golf ball dimpler have to be black? Not gonna lie, kinda ruins forced memes for me.
2012-03-27 12:56:21 PM  
1 votes:
Using black actors to play characters that were historically white? Who would go see that?

upload.wikimedia.org

/In the above reference, no one apparently.
//Some days I hope to see a black Superman film just to watch the internet explode.
2012-03-27 12:49:21 PM  
1 votes:
Why did Martin Luther King have to be black? Not gonna lie, kinda ruined the Civil Rights movement for me.
2012-03-27 12:44:04 PM  
1 votes:

CityExile: Didn't some people also get upset when Mos Def was cast in Hitchhiker's Guide? Of course, this was before the days of Twitter, so that idiocy wasn't nearly as loud as this one.


I was upset about Mos Def, not because he's black but because A) he's American and B) he can't act. Same objections to casting Zooey Deschanel as Trillian. Sam Rockwell CAN act, but his choice to play Zaphod Beeblebrox as an even more retarded Dubya was asinine.

If the producers wanted a black Ford Prefect, they should have gone with Lenny Henry.
2012-03-27 12:42:00 PM  
1 votes:
Why was my coffe black? Not going to lie, kind of ruined my morning pick-me-up.
2012-03-27 12:41:39 PM  
1 votes:
Why did Barry White have to be black not gonna lie kinda ruined soul music for me.
2012-03-27 12:40:13 PM  
1 votes:
Why did the Panthers have to be Black? Not going to lie, kinda ruined militant groups for me.
2012-03-27 12:38:29 PM  
1 votes:
I hate racists. They're like the 2nd dumbest people on Earth, after non-Asians
2012-03-27 12:34:15 PM  
1 votes:
Because ignorance and stupidity are the hallmarks of humankind.

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People aren't people. They're upsized apes, and just go on proving it day after day.
2012-03-27 12:32:38 PM  
1 votes:
Didn't some people complain the gate keeper in Thor was black? Those complaints were lame, too.

Unless the character is really supposed to be a specific race, like the Prince of Persia or Genghis Khan, I say just get the best actor. I would rather see James Earl Jones play just about everything, rather than some talentless hack.
2012-03-27 12:26:19 PM  
1 votes:
Why does KFC sell so much dark meat, not gonna lie kinda ruined chicken for me.
2012-03-27 12:25:37 PM  
1 votes:
Why does there have to be a dark side of the moon?
2012-03-27 12:11:51 PM  
1 votes:

brigid_fitch: Yes, Cinna's skin is implied in the book. He's from District 11, whose members, according to the book, all have dark skin and dark hair. Collins herself says that District 11 is the Deep South and is mostly populated by African Americans.


Thanks, Brigid because I was sitting here going, no, I'm pretty sure he was black but I couldn't remember why I knew that.
2012-03-27 11:51:02 AM  
1 votes:
Why did Rebecca Black do that YouTube video? Not gonna lie, it kinda ruined Friday for me.
2012-03-27 11:17:22 AM  
1 votes:

thismomentinblackhistory: It looks like one of the accounts was either hacked or is trying to CYA with parody....

[i.imgur.com image 511x525]


Talk about parody:

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next we will be voting on her wedding dress
2012-03-27 10:59:03 AM  
1 votes:
Why did back have to be in black not gonna lie kinda ruined AC/DC
2012-03-27 10:54:53 AM  
1 votes:
Why do black cats have to cross my path not gonna lie kinda ruined my luck
2012-03-27 10:34:21 AM  
1 votes:
WHHHHHYYYYYY does Lewis have to be black Not gonna lie, kinda ruins the Daily Show.
2012-03-27 10:23:03 AM  
1 votes:

thismomentinblackhistory: It looks like one of the accounts was either hacked or is trying to CYA with parody....

[i.imgur.com image 511x525]


Ok, that was funny as all hell. But why does your handle reference black history? Not gonna lie, it kinda ruined your post.
2012-03-27 10:11:24 AM  
1 votes:
Why does Interupting Cow have to be black Not gonna lie, kinda ruins MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

/forced meme is forced, meme
2012-03-27 10:06:21 AM  
1 votes:
Why does Louis Armstrong have to be black Not gonna lie, kinda ruins the mo-OON RIVER

/Thanks Doc
2012-03-27 09:42:49 AM  
1 votes:
Plus, unlike those two flicks, Hunger Games was written by a woman and stars a woman


Not since V.I. Warshawski have we had a woman written heroine who is a woman...heroine.

All I really know about the movie is that it is based on a book, and might as well be called Gladiator except not Russel Crowe, or Gamer...except no Gerard Butler.
2012-03-27 09:13:17 AM  
1 votes:
you know I'm not even going to watch the movie. I don't care about Rue and Thresh being black, but the actress they hired to play Foxface doesn't actually have the face of a cartoon fox.
 
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