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(CBS New York)   While the TSA feels up your grandmother at the checkpoint, it's okay for baggage handlers to steal stuff from your checked bag   (newyork.cbslocal.com) divider line 82
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2012-03-27 08:51:19 AM
There's no value to the TSA in actually securing the checked bags since the TSA is Security Theater since they are there to only appease Johnny Peepants at the "security" checkpoint.

Never mind that some angry airport worker, who DOESN'T get screened, can pull a Pan Am 103 and stuff something bad into a checked bag unfettered.

Think about that the next time you feel safe when the TSA sticks their hands on your mom's boobies in the name of safety.
 
2012-03-27 09:04:32 AM
LessO2: Think about that the next time you feel safe when the TSA sticks their hands on your mom's boobies in the name of safety.

Hey, only I can stick my hands on your mom's boobs!
 
2012-03-27 09:06:17 AM
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2012-03-27 09:06:37 AM
Had a person actually defend the TSA to me, the other day.

Also she's a cop.
 
2012-03-27 09:07:53 AM
GORDON: Had a person actually defend the TSA to me, the other day.

Also she's a cop.


Fark her.
When people violate your right to be free fom unreasonable search, and steal your shiat, and the cops defend it, it only means they are dirty cops.
 
2012-03-27 09:08:32 AM
my heart goes out to those who travel with 160k worth of uninsured jewelry
 
2012-03-27 09:08:49 AM
I thought this was common knowledge. This is why you pack a gun in your suitcase.
 
2012-03-27 09:09:06 AM
Obvious tag on vacation?
 
2012-03-27 09:09:18 AM
$160,000 in jewelry? In her checked baggage?
 
2012-03-27 09:10:52 AM
Why the hell would you check $160k in jewelry on an airline. Why would you even fly with that much. While I hate thieves in general, there is also something to be said of not being stupid.
 
2012-03-27 09:11:01 AM
proteus_b: my heart goes out to those who travel with 160k worth of uninsured jewelry

First-world problems.
 
2012-03-27 09:14:38 AM
highbrow45: $160,000 in jewelry? In her checked baggage?

Insurance scam.
 
2012-03-27 09:15:14 AM
Satanic_Hamster: Why the hell would you check $160k in jewelry on an airline. Why would you even fly with that much. While I hate thieves in general, there is also something to be said of not being stupid.

Came here to say this. If you're going to be stupid and travel with that much bling, at least put it in your carry on so you can watch the TSA steal it from you.
 
2012-03-27 09:16:42 AM
FTFA: All Rita Lamberg has left is an empty jewelry drawer and pictures of the $160,000 worth of watches, rings and necklaces that were stolen from her baggage at JFK Airport.

Ok who puts all their valuable jewellary in a checked bag? Was it insured against loss or damage? If you ever see movies with guys with cash in a case, it is chained to their wrist and never let out of sight. Never put anything in a checked bag that you wouldn't be willing/able to lose.
 
2012-03-27 09:20:56 AM
highbrow45: $160,000 in jewelry? In her checked baggage?

Agreed...crazy!

Any item of real value (kindle, camera, cash, tablet, etc) travels with me in my carryon. I would never even think to allow valuables into a checked bag. I assumed everyone did this.
 
2012-03-27 09:21:24 AM
GORDON: Had a person actually defend the TSA to me, the other day.

Also she's a cop.


What's the defense? That most people are dumb, therefore security theater, and smart people would be smarter if they just accept it?
 
2012-03-27 09:22:46 AM
1) Put radioactive jewelry in suitcase
2) Thieves steal it and get lymphoma
3) No profit, just schadenfreude
 
2012-03-27 09:25:43 AM
Oh, those terrible baggage handlers! Stealing things out of your luggage in places they don't usually linger.

Yes, it's those baggage handlers and airline employees, not the TSA - you know, whose job it is to go through your luggage. Not the TSA.

/nothing to see here
//move along
 
2012-03-27 09:27:02 AM
Obligatory:

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2012-03-27 09:31:37 AM
Porous Horace: 1) Put radioactive jewelry in suitcase
2) Find yourself in a fashionable black hood in a black Escalade
3) Rot in Gitmo without ever seeing a lawyer
 
2012-03-27 09:37:00 AM
Suitable Moniker: Oh, those terrible baggage handlers! Stealing things out of your luggage in places they don't usually linger.

Yes, it's those baggage handlers and airline employees, not the TSA - you know, whose job it is to go through your luggage. Not the TSA.

/nothing to see here
//move along


The TSA doesn't go through checked luggage? Are you sure about that?

I seem to remember finding a note or two from the TSA saying they had opened my checked luggage and took a look at what was inside.
 
2012-03-27 09:37:49 AM
Moopy Mac: Suitable Moniker: Oh, those terrible baggage handlers! Stealing things out of your luggage in places they don't usually linger.

Yes, it's those baggage handlers and airline employees, not the TSA - you know, whose job it is to go through your luggage. Not the TSA.

/nothing to see here
//move along

The TSA doesn't go through checked luggage? Are you sure about that?

I seem to remember finding a note or two from the TSA saying they had opened my checked luggage and took a look at what was inside.


And apparently I can't read or understand posts on Fark, so I'm not sure how I even read the TSA notice I received.

i am dum
 
2012-03-27 09:38:24 AM
It was Zimmerman! I knew it! That evil racist white guy!
 
2012-03-27 09:38:38 AM
Always check to see how much it would cost to ship luggage parcel post instead of dragging it around all day long.

/also, buy some fresh underwear when you get there, you could use it
 
2012-03-27 09:40:56 AM
highbrow45: $160,000 in jewelry? In her checked baggage?

She carried it on before the airline's personnel forced her to check it.

Do you think that saying, "I don't want to check it because I've got a shiatload of valuable jewelry in it," had anything to do with the airline personnel deciding that it had to be checked?
 
2012-03-27 09:41:34 AM
If I owned $160,000 worth of jewelry instead of the approximately $16 (Cdn) that I do own, and if I had to travel with it for some God-knows-what reason, you can rest assured I would be wearing every single friggin' piece of it on the flight, rather than putting it in either my checked-in or carry-on bag. *sheesh*

Having said that, people should be able to put things in their luggage without it being stolen. No matter what it is.
 
2012-03-27 09:45:41 AM
Caradoc: highbrow45: $160,000 in jewelry? In her checked baggage?

She carried it on before the airline's personnel forced her to check it.

Do you think that saying, "I don't want to check it because I've got a shiatload of valuable jewelry in it," had anything to do with the airline personnel deciding that it had to be checked?


Still stupid of her. Carry on bags should be small enough to store. If you're going to board a smaller plane, they do typically place all carry on baggage in the hold, but in this case she told them there was $160,000 in jewelry in it.

She didn't deserve to have it stolen, but she lacked some common sense.
 
2012-03-27 09:45:56 AM
Just wondering which airports have TSA screening that actually touches people like that?

I fly 10-15 times a year and have NEVER gotten anything more than a cursory pat down and wanded. However, every time I go to an NFL game I get a full pat down - and that security is there to keep me from sneaking alcohol into the stadium.
 
2012-03-27 09:47:54 AM
lohphat: Porous Horace: 1) Put radioactive jewelry in suitcase
2) Find yourself in a fashionable black hood in a black Escalade
3) Rot in Gitmo without ever seeing a lawyer


Yay! Free vacation in Cuba!
or
Yes, how very USA.
 
2012-03-27 09:48:23 AM
LessO2: There's no value to the TSA in actually securing the checked bags since the TSA is Security Theater since they are there to only appease Johnny Peepants at the "security" checkpoint.

Never mind that some angry airport worker, who DOESN'T get screened, can pull a Pan Am 103 and stuff something bad into a checked bag unfettered.

Think about that the next time you feel safe when the TSA sticks their hands on your mom's boobies in the name of safety.


That's what I thought was so funny about the TSA trying to include pilots as part of the theater. It would have made them one of the few categories of personnel with access to the plane/airport that were actually searched.
 
2012-03-27 09:48:28 AM
Moopy Mac: Suitable Moniker: Oh, those terrible baggage handlers! Stealing things out of your luggage in places they don't usually linger.

Yes, it's those baggage handlers and airline employees, not the TSA - you know, whose job it is to go through your luggage. Not the TSA.

/nothing to see here
//move along

The TSA doesn't go through checked luggage? Are you sure about that?

I seem to remember finding a note or two from the TSA saying they had opened my checked luggage and took a look at what was inside.


I've definitely had my luggage rooted through by someone who did not feel they needed to leave a note. Whether that was TSA or the handlers, god only knows.
 
2012-03-27 09:48:37 AM
I used to work in an industry with a lot of air travel, and we used bags & crates that were obviously meant to protect electronics, optics, and tools.

You learn very quickly to carry the stuff you couldn't live without, check your clothes, and ship the rest via UPS or FedEx.

That said, anytime someone's laptop broke or if you wanted to upgrade your hand tools, you'd place the item right on top in one of the more expensive-looking bags, and check it on your next multi-stop trip. It never took more than 2 flights for the problem to solve itself.
 
2012-03-27 09:49:00 AM
Part time poker player? If she got fooled by that bluff, perhaps she should try playing bridge.
 
2012-03-27 09:50:04 AM
this is why when i fly out of kennedy, i always have my luggage and valuables shipped thru lufthansa cargo--no more secure place than lufthansa cargo at kennedy.

especially if i have to carry large amounts of cash.
 
2012-03-27 09:51:07 AM
While the TSA feels up your grandmother at the checkpoint,

That's amore!
 
2012-03-27 09:52:18 AM
Caradoc: highbrow45: $160,000 in jewelry? In her checked baggage?

She carried it on before the airline's personnel forced her to check it.

Do you think that saying, "I don't want to check it because I've got a shiatload of valuable jewelry in it," had anything to do with the airline personnel deciding that it had to be checked?


It was a watch and a couple rings. Put them in your purse, pocket, or wear them. If it mattered that much take them out of the bag. I smell a scam.

/oh, and part time poker player, definitely a scam
 
2012-03-27 09:56:54 AM
Knows a thing or two about theft at JFK

hilobrow.com
 
2012-03-27 09:57:53 AM
Honest to God, I hurt for you younger whipper snappers who have never and will never experience air travel before the madness set in.

Gorgeous stews, you could park out front if you were picking up someone, walk to any gate unmolested, staff and employees treated you like you were special, nobody was carrying bubonic plague or goats and chickens onto the plane. Hot moist towels before takeoff, unlimited drinks.... Hell, Delta used to call two hours before flight time to ask how you wanted your steak done on the flight! and it was excellent steak.

Sigh.

Fu** all this cattle herding nonsense it's devolved into.
 
2012-03-27 09:59:08 AM
Dear federal government.

Your pulled-out-of-our-asses-a-week-after-9/11 security theater clown show is made up of thugs, hoodlums, Nazis, thieving cocksuckers, pedophiles and failed pizza delivery drivers.

And one of these days, you're going to get it shoved up your asses.

- The public
 
2012-03-27 10:11:56 AM
I'm not checking $160K in jewlery. And if I am, someone is going to sign a damned receipt for it. And yes, I'd be willing to wait around all day for it to happen.
 
2012-03-27 10:16:02 AM
This just happened to a good friend of mine a few months ago. The wife had a necklace stolen out of her checked bags, it was not incredibly pricey but it was a wedding gift from the husband that had incredible sentimental value. It was insured but that is really not the point.

When they approached the airlines about it they pretty much got the same response, we have no cameras back there and this happens a lot. They were not enthused.
 
2012-03-27 10:17:45 AM
Caradoc: highbrow45: $160,000 in jewelry? In her checked baggage?

She carried it on before the airline's personnel forced her to check it.

Do you think that saying, "I don't want to check it because I've got a shiatload of valuable jewelry in it," had anything to do with the airline personnel deciding that it had to be checked?


US Airways. Why am I not surprised.

That said, the $160K was apparently just a watch and two rings, not a pirate's ransom in assorted jewelry. Did this woman not have pockets? Or a wrist and fingers?
 
2012-03-27 10:19:21 AM
bunner: Dear federal government.

Your pulled-out-of-our-asses-a-week-after-9/11 security theater clown show is made up of thugs, hoodlums, Nazis, thieving cocksuckers, pedophiles and failed pizza delivery drivers.

And one of these days, you're going to get it shoved up your asses.

- The public


THIS!

/cocksuckers
 
2012-03-27 10:25:55 AM
Nem Wan: GORDON: Had a person actually defend the TSA to me, the other day.

Also she's a cop.

What's the defense? That most people are dumb, therefore security theater, and smart people would be smarter if they just accept it?


"It is a scary world now and it is better to be safe than sorry," is what she said.
 
2012-03-27 10:31:29 AM
the next time i fly i will pack mouse traps in the bag to >:)

/work for TSA and knows which dushes to do this trick to.
 
2012-03-27 10:39:11 AM
Security theater is alive and well. Airlines are probably reluctant to do anything about it because the first time someone gets prosecuted for theft from airline baggage someone is going to slip a stinkbomb or worse into the cargo hold. I would be tempted to pack my bag full of sharp objects and those jaw like mousetraps to call attention to the problem.
 
2012-03-27 10:43:28 AM
Porous Horace: 1) Put radioactive jewelry in suitcase
2) Thieves steal it and get lymphoma
3) No profit, just schadenfreude


Data sees what you did there.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-03-27 10:48:22 AM
madgonad: It was a watch and a couple rings. Put them in your purse, pocket, or wear them. If it mattered that much take them out of the bag. I smell a scam.

/oh, and part time poker player, definitely a scam


Step 1: Carry a big carry-on. Make sure to mention that you've got valuables in it, so you don't want to check it.
Step 2: Let them check it when they say it's too big to carry on.
Step 3: Profit.

(Note that there don't actually have to be valuables in the bag for this. The probability of theft at the checkpoint or in checked baggage, especially at JFK or Newark, is almost infinitely higher than the possibility of encountering an actual terrorist...)
 
2012-03-27 10:53:42 AM
if the airlines wanted to curb theft they would. but you get what you pay for and the level of person they are hiring evidently feels it's okay to subsidize their pay with pilferage.

they could 'plant' valuables that have tracking chips. fingerprints would show who did the deed.

they could offer cash rewards to employees for reporting theft. make it a decent reward and keep it tight-lipped, those tips will come in.

they could place security guards in plain clothes with other baggage handlers. in time they would be part of the inner workings and could expose those involved.
 
2012-03-27 11:00:27 AM
What would stop a suicide bomber from blowing up a security checkpoint? They could walk right up to it and detonate themselves, and everyone else in the blast radius, right before walking through the scanner.

Or the parking ramp, for that matter? Park a van full of explosives in the ramp and detonate it at a safe distance. There wouldn't be as many lives lost as in my first scenario, but there would be massive damage. How would the TSA stop something like that?

They couldn't stop either event from happening. A terrorist inclined to inflict massive damage will always find a way around their security theater. Yet if either of these did happen, I would imagine we'd instantly be under martial law - "for our own good", and all the sheeple would willingly obey.
 
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