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(C|Net)   "All heavy data users fear the FAP. The FAP means that you will be throttled with a fury"   (news.cnet.com) divider line 59
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2012-03-26 06:11:29 PM  
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2012-03-26 07:02:21 PM  
I'm wondering if its time to create the RBA - Rural Broadband Administration, much like we had the REA after the Great Depression. Broadband is becoming as important as electricity. Those who don't have access to broadband are being left behind in the digital age. I'm lucky to live in an area where I can get DSL, cable or the choice of two 4G cell services. Most people aren't that lucky and take any form of broadband they can get, if they can get it.
 
2012-03-26 07:24:54 PM  
People in rural areas tend to be for limited government and self-responsibility. Well, guess what. Pay your own way then. If some company doesn't want to spend 6 figures or more to run fiber up to your little village because 10 people paying $99/month doesn't justify the expense, shell out the money and get it run yourself. Why should people from denser areas subsidize your lifestyle?
 
2012-03-26 07:29:13 PM  
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AWW HELLS YES!!!
 
2012-03-26 07:38:28 PM  
If it's that big of a problem, plant less corn and more internets.
 
2012-03-26 07:49:49 PM  
My parents have satellite internet. I can vouch that its actually much worse than how he describes it.
 
2012-03-26 07:50:34 PM  
Hey, I'm going to move to the most desolate and remote corner of the universe and then snivel when I can't find the modern services we take for granted in urban areas.

Cry me a farking river, douche. If you want services, live where the services are. Don't move to East Bumfark and then whine when you can't live the same lifestyle.

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2012-03-26 07:51:07 PM  

weave: People in rural areas tend to be for limited government and self-responsibility. Well, guess what. Pay your own way then.


Why should they pay their hard-earned money to support the lie-beral mainstream Internet?
 
2012-03-26 07:53:42 PM  
And, FTFComments:

People choose to live in the middle of nowhere. They have to suffer the consequences. I choose to live in Brooklyn; along with that choice comes the knowledge that other people live above, below, and directly to either side of my living room. That comes with the territory. If you choose to live in the middle of nowhere, you have to realize that nibody will care about you or your problems.

Likewise, I'm sure. Tell the rest of the sardines we said Hi.
 
2012-03-26 07:53:52 PM  

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2012-03-26 07:55:06 PM  

Macular Degenerate: Cry me a farking river, douche. If you want services, live where the services are. Don't move to East Bumfark and then whine when you can't live the same lifestyle.


Funny how everywhere else can get high speed internet to people in the boonies no problem.
 
2012-03-26 07:58:54 PM  

Macular Degenerate: Hey, I'm going to move to the most desolate and remote corner of the universe and then snivel when I can't find the modern services we take for granted in urban areas.

Cry me a farking river, douche. If you want services, live where the services are. Don't move to East Bumfark and then whine when you can't live the same lifestyle.

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I've got mine, and fark you. Vote Republican.
 
2012-03-26 08:00:29 PM  
The FAP means that you will be throttled with a fury

Well, I have been working out.
 
2012-03-26 08:03:54 PM  
I like countries like Estonia (?) that have deemed internet access a basic human right and the whole country is covered and is mostly free. Small type in the linked article.
 
2012-03-26 08:06:09 PM  
The first time I was FAPped (about a year after moving here) and lost my home office Internet access for almost two weeks

Your mom caught you too, huh?
 
2012-03-26 08:15:59 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Macular Degenerate: Cry me a farking river, douche. If you want services, live where the services are. Don't move to East Bumfark and then whine when you can't live the same lifestyle.

Funny how everywhere else can get high speed internet to people in the boonies no problem.


Boonies is one thing. Massively overpopulated European countries with a few trees and glaciers is another thing. If you have to look out for bears, you might be in the boonies. Not necessarily, but maybe.
 
2012-03-26 08:22:59 PM  

jfarkinB: Likewise, I'm sure. Tell the rest of the sardines we said Hi.


Just don't expect to tell those sardines off over broadband.
 
2012-03-26 08:24:13 PM  
biatch, whine, moan.

Broadband is a relatively new thing. I've been telecommuting for over two decades, and until recently the best you could get was telephone modem speeds. I've even written a program to shut off the modem at a given time so as to not piss off roommates. You deal with things like quarter-gig NT 4.0 service packs or 2 gig database syncs from work.

You learn to live with it. Heck, I recently sent an email that constituted more bytes than that article from a freakin' hostel in the foothills of the Himalayas. Sad to hear someone is put out by not having perennial high-speed broadband.
 
2012-03-26 08:35:19 PM  
Rural areas?

Hen FAP?
 
2012-03-26 08:39:28 PM  
Pants full of macaroni!!

Rural areas?

Hen FAP?


No more clean cheese.
 
2012-03-26 08:51:38 PM  

weave: People in rural areas tend to be for limited government and self-responsibility. Well, guess what. Pay your own way then. If some company doesn't want to spend 6 figures or more to run fiber up to your little village because 10 people paying $99/month doesn't justify the expense, shell out the money and get it run yourself. Why should people from denser areas subsidize your lifestyle?


As an individualist in favor of limited government and self-responsibility, you're abso-farking-lutely right.
 
2012-03-26 08:53:05 PM  
If you want to live in a rural state and have decent broadband then move to a small city in that state that's growing as rural areas depopulate. Chances are there will be broadband competition and networks being upgraded way more than necessary in anticipation of future growth.
 
2012-03-26 08:53:57 PM  

skinink: I like countries like Estonia (?) that have deemed internet access a basic human right and the whole country is covered and is mostly free. Small type in the linked article.



But their entire country is smaller than New Jersey ( and 1/100 the size of Alaska).
 
2012-03-26 09:12:39 PM  
Like a trip down memory lane. I'm getting a kick out of this because I was one of the people who fought the FAP back in '98. After two years, DirecPC finally settled the class action and disclosed the FAP to their customers. It was kinda fun calling tech support, who were instructed to deny throttling, and read the instruction manual from the throttling system to them. And to have them then claim that they only throttle users during times of heavy usage, then quote the usage stats for the previous night showing my connection as steadily throttled as usage fell off during the wee hours. Heck, I even remember the author of the FAP manual. Vivek Gupta. Good times.

My biggest gripe with the FAP wasn't that it existed but that it was secret and it was applied to people who had been sold unlimited service back when unlimited meant something. If they'd just been honest about it and only applied it to new customers, they would have been just fine. Thanks to us pioneers, you can go to the DirecWay (formerly DirecPC) and WildBlue websites and know exactly what they're selling.
 
2012-03-26 09:18:23 PM  

fusillade762: Speaker2Animals: [thumbnails74.imagebam.com image 350x229]

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faping is the best second best way to stay warm at 53 degrees.
 
2012-03-26 09:39:59 PM  

maxheck: Pants full of macaroni!!

Rural areas?

Hen FAP?

No more clean cheese.


Are you going to make some pound cake to top with that cream cheese frosting

/sorry, couldn't resist; this is a FAP thread after all
//farktards in the article should STFU and pay if they want better service
///cause lord knows they compain about this, but then refuse to help pay for a penniless person to not die from colon cancer, despite that being the WHOLE POINT of health insurance insurance, everybody pays some, it goes to where its needed, including you when you need it
 
2012-03-26 09:46:47 PM  
All this foofaraw over a simple misunderstanding of our wonderful modern technology.

In rural areas, the tubes for the internets get clogged with corn and livestock all the time, and so they run slower.

Porn takes longer, too - those boy-on-sheep videos usually have more bites.
 
2012-03-26 09:57:11 PM  
Yeah, When the terrorist attack the large cities, I will not really care. Go for it I say. fark the big city dwellers who contribute nothing to society in no way but to its downfall. They sit in cubicles all day sucking up oxygen and drawing pay for producing nothing but internets traffic at face book and porn sites. All the while CRYING and WHINING for whatever they think they deserve. Not what they earn, which is nil. Die in a nuclear Holocaust or dirty bomb or whatever the terrorist decide to set off right in the middle of the largest population centers. To hell with all you mouth breathing genetically inferior peanut allergic ADD ADHD pedofarktards. Just desserts will be yours and nobody will really care. I wish they would hurry up and round you dumbfarks up into the Obama re-education camps and fire up the ovens and be done with you. I live where the food is.
 
2012-03-26 10:04:57 PM  

mikecc: Yeah, When the terrorist attack the large cities, I will not really care. Go for it I say. fark the big city dwellers who contribute nothing to society in no way but to its downfall. They sit in cubicles all day sucking up oxygen and drawing pay for producing nothing but internets traffic at face book and porn sites. All the while CRYING and WHINING for whatever they think they deserve. Not what they earn, which is nil. Die in a nuclear Holocaust or dirty bomb or whatever the terrorist decide to set off right in the middle of the largest population centers. To hell with all you mouth breathing genetically inferior peanut allergic ADD ADHD pedofarktards. Just desserts will be yours and nobody will really care. I wish they would hurry up and round you dumbfarks up into the Obama re-education camps and fire up the ovens and be done with you. I live where the food is.


No more Alex Jones for you. And . . . .maybe some decaf.
 
2012-03-26 10:07:13 PM  

weave: to run fiber up to your little village


Why would they run more of something when it's already there, lit and transmitting data? Unless your telecoms companies missed the whole 1980's (in which case you'd all be using can's & string) they were really busy burying fibre optic cable everywhere.

It was cheaper than microwave towers and easier to maintain, wouldn't cause the PR stink and exceptionally cheap.
 
2012-03-26 10:23:03 PM  

jfarkinB: Likewise, I'm sure. Tell the rest of the sardines we said Hi.


I will. But they might not care.

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2012-03-26 10:34:53 PM  
Good god. If you have an issue with the service provided, find a solution, and bank on it. If you can't bank on it, you understand the reason the companies don't care that they provide a lackluster service.

/I thought rural areas were to disconnect
 
2012-03-26 10:35:33 PM  
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2012-03-26 10:40:01 PM  
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2012-03-26 10:48:07 PM  

mikecc: Yeah, When the terrorist attack the large cities bumfark towns, I will not really care. Go for it I say. fark the big city bumfark town dwellers who contribute nothing to society in no way but to its downfall. They sit in cubicles on porches all day sucking up oxygen and drawing pay for producing nothing but internets traffic at face book and porn sites ignorance and a hatred of knowledge. All the while CRYING and WHINING for whatever they think they deserve. Not what they earn, which is nil. Die in a nuclear Holocaust or dirty bomb or whatever the terrorist decide to set off right in the middle of the largest population centers bumfark towns. To hell with all you mouth breathing genetically inferior peanut allergic ADD ADHD pedofarktards. Just desserts will be yours and nobody will really care. I wish they would hurry up and round you dumbfarks up into the Obama re-education camps and fire up the ovens rapture arrival groups and serve the kool-aid and be done with you. I live where the food knowledge and innovation is.


Now, see neighbor how irrational and hate-filled these sort of statements can be? I understand that you may be angry, and you may very well have had something happen in your life that has made you upset. But lashing out at others won't make the anger go away. It will only hurt the ones you care for and love. If you need a listening ear and a shoulder to cry or rest on, I am always here and so is anyone that is special in your life. Whenever you feel angry or sad, take a moment to remember those that are important to you. No matter how bad it may seem, you will always have those closest to you and they are a big part of what makes life worth living.

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2012-03-26 10:57:52 PM  
One of the happiest days of my life was when I said goodbye to satellite internet. I only live a few miles outside of a fair sized town in northern California, but I was limited to dial up because of the antique telephone infrastructure. I shelled out some pretty good money for satellite, but it wasn't nearly as good as I hoped. And hitting the FAP limit by accident really ruined your day (actually, several days). I think the best you can say for satellite internet is that it's better than dial up.
Lucky for me, local company that offers a broadcast high speed internet began offering service in my area. It isn't perfect, but it's usually very good, and far, far better than satellite internet.
 
2012-03-26 11:01:59 PM  

skinink: I like countries like Estonia (?) that have deemed internet access a basic human right and the whole country is covered and is mostly free. Small type in the linked article.


Yeah, Estonia is about the size of Uncle Bob's hunting lease.
 
2012-03-26 11:04:22 PM  

Vaneshi: Why would they run more of something when it's already there, lit and transmitting data? Unless your telecoms companies missed the whole 1980's (in which case you'd all be using can's & string) they were really busy burying fibre optic cable everywhere.


If there was profit to be made from providing broadband Internet to the sticks, it would happen on its own. Yeah, fiber is run everywhere -- except to everyone's personal DEMARC. It's a big country. Even if there's a fiber run a few miles from your house, running it out that last mile to your house could be tens of thousands of dollars.
 
2012-03-26 11:18:21 PM  

weave:
If there was profit to be made from providing broadband Internet to the sticks, it would happen on its own. Yeah, fiber is run everywhere -- except to everyone's personal DEMARC. It's a big country. Even if there's a fiber run a few miles from your house, running it out that last mile to your house could be tens of thousands of dollars.


So we've already ascertained that there is, in fact, fibre in the vicinity of these villages, we're now arguing over the most cost effective way of breaking it out and covering the last few miles, especially as we've now dropped from millions to tens of thousands? Copper wire and some flavour of DSL would seem the best bet, they already have the copper down. Which should reduce the costs involved substantially.

So, the real reason why these places don't have broadband is.... your carriers are shiat. Thieves as well considering your government's already paid for this several times now.
 
2012-03-26 11:20:09 PM  

Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: All this foofaraw over a simple misunderstanding of our wonderful modern technology.

In rural areas, the tubes for the internets get clogged with corn and livestock all the time, and so they run slower.

Porn takes longer, too - those boy-on-sheep videos usually have more bites.


It's tractor porn.
And YouTube videos of chicken yodeling.
 
2012-03-26 11:27:35 PM  

dustman81: I'm wondering if its time to create the RBA - Rural Broadband Administration, much like we had the REA after the Great Depression. Broadband is becoming as important as electricity. Those who don't have access to broadband are being left behind in the digital age. I'm lucky to live in an area where I can get DSL, cable or the choice of two 4G cell services. Most people aren't that lucky and take any form of broadband they can get, if they can get it.


That's what happens when you move out into the sticks - you get left behind.
 
2012-03-26 11:49:05 PM  
"I know this may all sound like so much whining from someone who should know better. After all, I chose to live way out in the sticks, right?"

Yes and there's no need to continue your articles.
 
2012-03-27 12:16:20 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Boonies is one thing. Massively overpopulated European countries with a few trees and glaciers is another thing. If you have to look out for bears, you might be in the boonies. Not necessarily, but maybe.


There are bears in Europe and there are rural areas in Europe. Also in the US there is fiber going right past many rural communities.

weave: running it out that last mile to your house could be tens of thousands of dollars.


Except the ISPs were given tons of money to make sure everyone got broadband as of a few years ago.
 
2012-03-27 12:24:43 AM  
This guy is like the kid who shows up at track day with the hyundai excel and wants to race it.

Then you find out that he has a Supra at home, but wants to race the excel because its more hardcore.
 
2012-03-27 12:35:21 AM  
Usually quotation marks mean you're quoting something, not paraphrasing.
 
2012-03-27 12:56:24 AM  
I thought this would be about network protocols...

SIN RECEIVED
SIN+FAP/FAP
 
2012-03-27 12:57:51 AM  
 
2012-03-27 01:12:54 AM  

Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: All this foofaraw over a simple misunderstanding of our wonderful modern technology.

In rural areas, the tubes for the internets get clogged with corn and livestock all the time, and so they run slower.

Porn takes longer, too - those boy-on-sheep videos usually have more bites.


Ouch!

They're doing it wrong.
 
2012-03-27 01:43:52 AM  

wildlifer: Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: All this foofaraw over a simple misunderstanding of our wonderful modern technology.

In rural areas, the tubes for the internets get clogged with corn and livestock all the time, and so they run slower.

Porn takes longer, too - those boy-on-sheep videos usually have more bites.

It's tractor porn.
And YouTube videos of chicken yodeling.


My mistake. I was distracted, as I was posting whilst trying to FAP while being throttled by a furry

/ if a naked David Tennant with a pony plug really counts as "furry"
 
2012-03-27 01:54:30 AM  

UsikFark: I thought this would be about network protocols...

SIN RECEIVED
SIN+FAP/FAP


Including impolite clients that don't bother sending a FIN flag before dropping.
 
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