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(ABC)   Not that it'll change anyone's mind. "George Zimmerman suffered a broken nose, and had an injury to the back of his head, he was attacked by Trayvon Martin on that evening," (Auto-play video)   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 1520
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2012-03-26 11:02:45 AM  

Grables'Daughter: From the Wikipedia article: subsequently his lawyer stated that Zimmerman's nose was broken.[54][55] However, the police report does not indicate that Zimmerman required medical attention.


OK, well that confirms it then. A lawyer would never make up or exaggerate the injuries of a client, would they?
 
2012-03-26 11:03:03 AM  
Hispanic man shoots Black man after physical confrontation.

I'll give this a week or two before people (the media) stop pretending this is news and moves on to some other controversy du jour.
 
2012-03-26 11:03:14 AM  

Grables'Daughter: Yeah, I kind of thought that this wasn't a courthouse, and none of us had the power to arrest or convict Zimmerman.


Not that I'm not going to ask for some of that sweet $10,000 if I find Mr. Zimmerman myself.
 
2012-03-26 11:03:19 AM  
I_C_Weener from the blaze, but it was the first pic in GIS for "zimmerman, dead or alive".

Wait, people are trolling the details of a death involving a black guy & a Jewish guy in the South for their own purposes?
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LOLWHUT?

JerseyTim
If they have to pay this out, their walkie-talkie budget is going to be devastated.

They save by utilizing heavy wooden poles
 
2012-03-26 11:04:01 AM  
all I know is that if this guy walks it will make the Rodney King verdict look like a ticker-tape parade. The town of Sanford will be besieged. literally
 
2012-03-26 11:04:51 AM  
Serves him right for stalking the kid like a creep.
 
2012-03-26 11:05:04 AM  

Jake Havechek: Freerepublic is confused by all this. They don't know what the wannabe cop was trying to prove, but they are convinced the black kid must have been doing something, anything wrong.


The kid had Skittles. Nuff said.
 
2012-03-26 11:05:07 AM  

cman: We all rushed to judgement on him.

I admit I took part in it.

Emotions sometimes get in the way of ensuring justice.


The only judgement I made was that he was obviously in the wrong with everything he did up to and probably including shooting the guy. And that's pretty concrete, as the police agree with this. The only thing that isn't set is which crime he is guilty of.
 
2012-03-26 11:05:16 AM  
"Cul de Sac" is french for "No Black Kids"
 
2012-03-26 11:05:22 AM  
I dunno, that Zimmerman dude looks kind of fat. Maybe he had the diabeetus. If that was the case, then the kid with Skittles could have posed a real threat to him. Imagine it, it's a dark night, you're out waddling down the sidewalk, walking your beat, when all of a sudden some punk in a hoodie jumps out of the bushes and yells, "Taste the rainbow, motherfarker!" and starts flicking Skittles into your mouth. You could go into one of those sugar comas or something. Dude probably feared for his life and had no choice but to gun the punk down.
 
2012-03-26 11:06:16 AM  
oh, and "JUSTICE FOR HENRY LAMB"
 
2012-03-26 11:07:25 AM  

Walker: I'm outraged that a boy armed with nothing more than skittles and tea had the nerve to defend himself when attacked by a complete stranger who had been stalking him. Outraged I tell you!


This. If Zimmerman is standing around on his lawn minding his own business and Trayvon runs over and attacks, then it's a righteous shooting (sort of, although, I think he's a pussy for not being able to take someone scrawny).

However, Zimmerman is clearly the aggressor. He chased Trayvon down. Trayvon is the "stand your ground" one, not Zimmerman.
 
2012-03-26 11:08:22 AM  
What an appalling collection of tasteless, racist jokes and half baked, ignorant theorizing to no end.

I can't wait to shut this site down.

Sincerely,

Dino M. Zaffina
 
2012-03-26 11:08:25 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: I_C_Weener: I still have no idea what happened. I do find it reprehensible that the "New Black Panther Party" have issued a $10,000 bounty on this guys head...wanted dead of alive. Pretty sure that should be illegal.

Is that the part that you find the most reprehensible? SMH.


It's the easy one to say "This is fact and this is wrong."

But, using your logic, I'll assume that since you didn't immediately condemn it, you think it is acceptable. See, this is fun. What else can we assume by your posts? That you find Skittles to be delicious despite all the evidence to the contrary? You sir, are a bad man for not sticking up for Reese's Pieces.
 
2012-03-26 11:08:32 AM  

Hobodeluxe: also his godfather is a rich guy in the neighborhood. and his grandfather is a judge.


I had not heard this.

Is this true?
 
2012-03-26 11:08:37 AM  

nekom: liam76: We know Zimmerman was following Trayvon, we don't knwo if he started the physical altercation.

Since he did follow him, I am guessing he did, but there is no way to know that from the info that has been released.

I think the key here is that he went out looking for trouble. Whatever the facts of the scuffle, who did what and when, the man was poking his nose where it didn't belong, and a young man who had done nothing wrong is dead because of it.


We don't know he was looking for trouble.

I'd be *VERY* careful hanging on to this, I have a feeling that once all the facts are out, it's going to blow up like the Tawana Brawley incident. Already, it has all the hallmarks of being pushed to justify a racial agenda at the cost of the truth. Talking about how Zimmerman is "100 lbs heavier" than Martin, without pointing out that Zimmerman is a morbidly obese 5'9" and Martin was at least 6' tall and athletic. Showing a picture of Martin as a 12 year old, instead of showing more recent pictures that give you some context of his relative size and fitness. Claiming that the screaming on the 911 tape is Martin, which contradicts eyewitness reports. All the usual suspects getting involved.

It just seems that the closer I look at this, the more it seems like 'social justice' groups are glomming on to this incident to push their agenda without getting all the facts straight, and I think there is a serious danger that they will look like idiots when all the facts come out, and I want to emphasize that no one posting here has all the facts.

*IF* it turns out like much of the media has been claiming, that Zimmerman shouldn't have used deadly force to defend himself, I'll be first in line to condemn him for it, and hope he gets locked away for a long time. At this point though, given the information we do know and the blatant physical disparity between the two, it isn't looking all that good for Martin's advocates.
 
2012-03-26 11:09:53 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Still, wouldn't a "neighborhood watch captain" know the names of all the streets in the neighborhood, especially if there are only about four of them?


This. Even Moe is "streetwise".

calvinandhobbesagain.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-03-26 11:10:11 AM  
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2012-03-26 11:10:15 AM  

Grables'Daughter: Hobodeluxe: also his godfather is a rich guy in the neighborhood. and his grandfather is a judge.

I had not heard this.

Is this true?


His father is a retired magistrate -- not sure about the godfather thing.
 
2012-03-26 11:10:18 AM  

nekom: CPT Ethanolic: As someone who owns guns and believes in concealed carry laws, this guy pisses me off. It's idiots like this that cause the rest of us to lose our rights. Instead of being a conversation about this moron, it becomes a conversation about carry rights.

I think it's more about Florida's `stand your ground' law specifically. Whatever the facts of the scuffle turn out to be, this guy wasn't standing his ground, he was out looking for trouble. I think that's the main reason I'd like to see him serve time. He was out looking for trouble, he just KNEW that darky must have been selling drugs or stealing car stereos or something, and he provoked the incident, and now an innocent young man is dead.

There are racial and 2nd amendment overtones to be sure, but the long and short of it is this asshole went out looking for trouble and it ended in the death of someone who had done nothing wrong.


I agree with this statement.
 
2012-03-26 11:10:37 AM  

GAT_00: Injuries which wouldn't have happened if he hadn't chased the kid down. He murdered Trayvon. To say that murder was justified because Trayvon fought back against the guy who attacked him is farked up.


I don't believe he had malice aforethought, thus making a better charge probably voluntary man slaughter instead of murder.

/Of course I'm not fully aware of FL's laws.
 
2012-03-26 11:10:54 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: SlothB77: Is George Zimmerman's life in danger right now? Like, is someone going to take him out? He should be in police protection, especially after the black panther reward offer.

He wouldn't need police protection. He can effectively shoot anyone who comes near him now.


Yea no shiat, especially any pissed off looking black guys.
 
2012-03-26 11:10:57 AM  

Mithiwithi: You mean injuries Zimmerman sustained when Martin tried to defend himself? I thought Florida had a Stand Your Ground law.

/yeah, a skinny lad attacked a man half again his weight with a bag of Skittles and a bottle of tea, that's real plausible


Exactly I keep saying this MARTIN HAD A RIGHT TO BEAT THE HELL OUT OF ZIMMERMAN, Zimmerman, conversely had no right to attack Martin. Why? BECAUSE ZIMMERMAN STARTED IT. Martin was running away by Zimmerman's own words, Zimmerman pursued him. That by itself is enough to constitute common-law assault by Zimmerman, especially since Zimmerman was armed. At that point Martin has a right to defend himself, if he had crippled or even killed Zimmerman he'd have been within his rights. Zimmerman on the other hand could never under regular criminal law rules claim self-defense, only mutual affray, which is still a crime.

and funny, but the police report mentions none of those injuries (new window)(pdf)
 
2012-03-26 11:11:04 AM  

LadySusan: However, Zimmerman is clearly the aggressor. He chased Trayvon down. Trayvon is the "stand your ground" one, not Zimmerman.


Zimmerman must be more athletic than he looks. Or Trayvon is less athletic than he looked. Of course, saying, "Stop, or I'll shoot" kind of negates the ability to flee safely too.
 
2012-03-26 11:11:19 AM  

dittybopper: Mithiwithi: /yeah, a skinny lad attacked a man half again his weight with a bag of Skittles and a bottle of tea, that's real plausible

George Zimmerman is morbidly obese, and 5'9" tall.

Trayvon Martin was athletic, and at *LEAST* 6' tall. Police report has him at 6'0", I've seen other reports of him being 6'2". Either way, he would have towered over Zimmerman.

That's why Zimmerman is "half again his weight". Hell, I was "half again the weight" of my brother-in-law, and we had roughly the same proportions and age difference that was in play here, and I have *NO* illusions that if we had gotten into a fight who would have won.

/Have since lost most of the weight.
//B-I-L could still kick my ass.


Came here to say something along these lines. If the media was showing more recent photos of the two and basing their reporting on witness and police reports instead of wild speculation and race baiting there'd be a lot less sympathy and confusion, I think.
 
2012-03-26 11:11:27 AM  

dittybopper: It just seems that the closer I look at this, the more it seems like 'social justice' groups are glomming on to this incident to push their agenda without getting all the facts straight, and I think there is a serious danger that they will look like idiots when all the facts come out, and I want to emphasize that no one posting here has all the facts.


Pffft. Next thing you know, you're gonna tell us Mumia killed a cop!
 
2012-03-26 11:11:54 AM  
Whether there was a racial motivation or not, and I'm willing to believe that it could be a non-issue, what is true is that an unarmed minor was shot by an adult that pursued him AND that the authorities have claimed they have no right to investigate such a situation. No sobriety checks, no due dilligience... they had to let him go because he said "I felt my life was in danger."

"Stand Your Ground" laws have a good philosophical root for those that get jumped, but if police cannot even dig into a situation to determine the facts of the case, then the laws need to be fixed.
 
2012-03-26 11:12:28 AM  

I_C_Weener: Well, in more civilized times, they'd hire Clint Eastwood to hunt down the evil doers and kill them resisting arrest by a duly authorized bounty hunter. Nowadays, you get Dog...and he doesn't kill people.

Seriously, did no one read To Kill A Mockingbird? You don't lynch the suspect even if he's not officially a suspect. Never. Ever.


No one is saying he needs to be lynched. But the justice system is a process. Before he can be tried, he has to be charged. If he's not charged, then "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't mean anything. The public can condemn him all they want but until he's actually charged, the justice system is powerless to do anything to him.
 
2012-03-26 11:12:51 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I dunno, that Zimmerman dude looks kind of fat. Maybe he had the diabeetus. If that was the case, then the kid with Skittles could have posed a real threat to him. Imagine it, it's a dark night, you're out waddling down the sidewalk, walking your beat, when all of a sudden some punk in a hoodie jumps out of the bushes and yells, "Taste the rainbow, motherfarker!" and starts flicking Skittles into your mouth. You could go into one of those sugar comas or something. Dude probably feared for his life and had no choice but to gun the punk down.


Stop it.

: )
 
2012-03-26 11:13:34 AM  

I_C_Weener: I still have no idea what happened. I do find it reprehensible that the "New Black Panther Party" have issued a $10,000 bounty on this guys head...wanted dead of alive. Pretty sure that should be illegal.


The black panthers get a free pass every time. It's not like they are a racist hate group or anything.
 
2012-03-26 11:13:36 AM  
ITT: White guilt.
 
2012-03-26 11:13:40 AM  

dittybopper: It just seems that the closer I look at this, the more it seems like 'social justice' groups are glomming on to this incident to push their agenda without getting all the facts straight, and I think there is a serious danger that they will look like idiots when all the facts come out, and I want to emphasize that no one posting here has all the facts.


I don't have a doubt in my mind that certain groups will use this to make political hay. I'm not really trying to make any broad political points myself, but looking at the facts as they have been reported so far, it seems to me that this was an over zealous wannabe cop likely with a serious racial bias chasing after a kid because he was `one of them thar shifty lookin' kellered fellers', what exactly happened after that is murky. My point is he had no business confronting him in the first place. It's a public street, he has no authority whatsoever. The question "What are you doing here" would have been properly answered with "Whatever the fark I want."

No matter how the scuffle went down, it's clear to me that Zimmerman was the one who caused the situation in the first place, and deserves AT LEAST part of the blame, if not all.
 
2012-03-26 11:13:47 AM  

JPINFV: GAT_00: Injuries which wouldn't have happened if he hadn't chased the kid down. He murdered Trayvon. To say that murder was justified because Trayvon fought back against the guy who attacked him is farked up.

I don't believe he had malice aforethought, thus making a better charge probably voluntary man slaughter instead of murder.

/Of course I'm not fully aware of FL's laws.


Does the 911 audio indicate malice? Zimmerman definitely says calls Martin an asshole, and possibly a racial slur.
 
2012-03-26 11:13:51 AM  

Magorn: Exactly I keep saying this MARTIN HAD A RIGHT TO BEAT THE HELL OUT OF ZIMMERMAN, Zimmerman, conversely had no right to attack Martin. Why? BECAUSE ZIMMERMAN STARTED IT.


Zimmerman started it? There isn't one piece of evidence to that effect.
 
2012-03-26 11:14:13 AM  
"As far as, I mean as far as George being racist, I didn't take it as a racist term. I heard 'goon' and talking to my teenage daughter, apparently goon is a term of endearment in high school these days," he said.

1) That's a load of bullshiat.
2) Zimmerman is 28, not even close to being teenage.
3) Why would he be using a term of endearment, while he's calling 911, regarding someone he thinks is a criminal looking to do bad things in his neighborhood?
4) He also referred to him as an asshole in that same conversation. Is that also a term of endearment?

It's really farking sad that this whole thing has turned into the usual political ballgame. An unarmed teenager was shot dead while on his way home from a gas station and talking to his girlfriend on the phone. The person who killed him followed him, against a 911 operator's advice, before any interaction between them took place. That's not "standing your ground." That's starting a confrontation. But the usual internet trolls and partisan media hacks are trying everything to justify killing an unarmed teenager, all the way down to "he was wearing a hoodie, so it's his fault." This country is farking sad.

Christ, the teabagger at work said that there's no reason to investigate this, and the cops made a good decision. ANY time there is a person killed by gunfire in this country there should be an investigation, NO FARKING EXCEPTIONS. WHO THE FARK THINKS ITS A GOOD IDEA TO JUST TAKE THE SHOOTER'S WORD FOR IT? ANYONE?
 
2012-03-26 11:14:20 AM  
In no way have I rushed to judgement. Zimmerman deserves a trail. A jury can determine his guilt or innocence. My outrage is at the police for skipping out on this little step.
 
2012-03-26 11:14:49 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I_C_Weener: Marcus Aurelius: For all we know, the recoil of the gun may have smacked it back into his face at which point he fell and hit his head.

Which is it youngster? Is he a big man with nothing to fear and the ability to physically smack a biatch, or a weakling who can't handle a little recoil and therefore should fear the hoodie?

All I really know is that the soon to be ex-police chief of Sanford wishes to God he'd arrested George on a manslaughter charge.


That's the part that really blows my mind. Even if you totally believe his story and think he was defending himself, as a cop I would have brought him down to the station in cuffs and questioned him with the DA listening in and pass that buck for the DA to call whether or not he got charged.

but for those of you doing the whole "big tough guy shot a little kid" thing.

savingtherepublic.com
 
2012-03-26 11:14:53 AM  

LockeOak: /Of course I'm not fully aware of FL's laws.

Does the 911 audio indicate malice? Zimmerman definitely says calls Martin an asshole, and possibly a racial slur.


Doesn't matter. He's not getting charged under Florida law. He's articulated a viable self defense claim, and there's no evidence to contradict it.
 
2012-03-26 11:14:58 AM  

I_C_Weener: DROxINxTHExWIND: I_C_Weener: I still have no idea what happened. I do find it reprehensible that the "New Black Panther Party" have issued a $10,000 bounty on this guys head...wanted dead of alive. Pretty sure that should be illegal.

Is that the part that you find the most reprehensible? SMH.

It's the easy one to say "This is fact and this is wrong."

But, using your logic, I'll assume that since you didn't immediately condemn it, you think it is acceptable. See, this is fun. What else can we assume by your posts? That you find Skittles to be delicious despite all the evidence to the contrary? You sir, are a bad man for not sticking up for Reese's Pieces.



You're right. Its easier than say, "the police should have asked Zimmerman to pee in a cup while they were testing a dead child for drugs".
 
2012-03-26 11:15:21 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I dunno, that Zimmerman dude looks kind of fat. Maybe he had the diabeetus. If that was the case, then the kid with Skittles could have posed a real threat to him. Imagine it, it's a dark night, you're out waddling down the sidewalk, walking your beat, when all of a sudden some punk in a hoodie jumps out of the bushes and yells, "Taste the rainbow, motherfarker!" and starts flicking Skittles into your mouth. You could go into one of those sugar comas or something. Dude probably feared for his life and had no choice but to gun the punk down.


Imagine if Zimmerman had a peanut allergy and and the kid had a couple Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.
 
2012-03-26 11:15:26 AM  

I_C_Weener: I still have no idea what happened. I do find it reprehensible that the "New Black Panther Party" have issued a $10,000 bounty on this guys head...wanted dead of alive. Pretty sure that should be illegal.


It is and they haven't

They specifically said information leading to his arrest, and that he was not to be harmed in any way. Details Fox and other irresponsible media outlets leave out. Mind you the NBPP are a bunch of attention-whoring idiots the world would be better off without, but lets not distort what they actually said
 
2012-03-26 11:15:31 AM  

dittybopper: without pointing out that Zimmerman is a morbidly obese 5'9"


Morbid obesity is where you're so fat, it starts to interfere with your breathing and other bodily functions - usually around 39 on the BMI index. Zimmerman wasn't morbidly obese. He was a fat fark (with a BMI of 35), but he's not morbidly obese.
 
2012-03-26 11:15:42 AM  

lousy screw: [i43.tinypic.com image 500x375]


Which news agency did that?
 
2012-03-26 11:15:46 AM  

dittybopper: We don't know he was looking for trouble.


If I'm following someone around with a gun then yes I'm looking for trouble.
 
2012-03-26 11:15:56 AM  
Threads like these are a good way of finding out how many pos racist post on fark.
 
2012-03-26 11:16:11 AM  

darcsun: In no way have I rushed to judgement. Zimmerman deserves a trail. A jury can determine his guilt or innocence. My outrage is at the police for skipping out on this little step.


A jury will never see this case. A judge will rule on the self defense claim before it even gets to that point. With no evidence to contradict the self defense claim, he's never going to trial.
 
2012-03-26 11:16:21 AM  

lousy screw: [i43.tinypic.com image 500x375]


Whoa, hold on... I meant to caption this by saying I'm not even sure it's real, and that this is even Zimmerman and/or Martin, or that it has any bearing on the case. Just wanted to point out that this poster is circulating on Facebook, etc. Don't kill the messenger.
 
2012-03-26 11:16:28 AM  
I think the "Poverty Twins" (Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson) didn't waste one second accusing the "white devil's) of murdering an innocent, helpless, pillar of the community" type person like Martin. I just hate it when a spic/kike is accused of being white and murdering an innocent black youth (who just happened to be wearing a hoodie in Florida when it was a freezing cold 81 degrees that night... Yeah ... Ok.
 
2012-03-26 11:16:44 AM  

Jake Havechek: His nose does not appear to be broken in the pic the news has.


The one with him in orange? That's from a previous arrest. He wasn't (and still has yet to be) arrested for the shooting of Trayvon Martin.
 
2012-03-26 11:17:19 AM  
Ugh, this thread again.
 
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