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(Mirror.co.uk)   Can Britain call time on 1,000 years of boozing? As far back as 1362, the Archbishop of Canterbury said: "The tavern is worshipped rather than the church, gluttony and drunkenness is more abundant than tears and prayers"   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 69
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2012-03-25 11:40:52 PM
Of course that pedophile decided to use unneeded Latin words instead of English ones.
 
2012-03-25 11:48:06 PM
"The tavern is worshipped rather than the church

I'll drink to that!
 
2012-03-25 11:53:24 PM
They could have learned something from the Irish, who fused church and drunkenness and wound up with the Temple Bar.
 
2012-03-25 11:55:24 PM
gluttony and drunkenness is more abundant than tears and prayers"

Have another on me!
 
2012-03-26 12:02:05 AM
You want to clean up the culture of drinking in England?

LEGALIZE POT!

/Sorry, I forgot we're talking to the English--LEGALISE WACKY BACKY!
 
2012-03-26 12:13:46 AM
Here in Reno, one of my favorite bars is called "The Chapel".

/So, problem solved, Archbishop of You Can'terbury.
 
2012-03-26 12:56:26 AM
PainInTheASP: You want to clean up the culture of drinking in England?

LEGALIZE POT!

/Sorry, I forgot we're talking to the English--LEGALISE WACKY BACKY!


Legalise muggles.
 
2012-03-26 02:21:38 AM
I say, fie on yon knaves. The day's lax morals point at the very degradation of society. Civilization will surely perish not fifty years hence.
 
2012-03-26 03:10:11 AM
But it should never be forgotten economics is tied to alcohol abuse. As Charles Dickens himself had it: "Gin-drinking is a great vice in England, but wretchedness and dirt are a greater."
And this Government has absolutely no answer to the problems of poverty and wretchedness which are driving modern drunkenness.


About right.

Booze is unique among drugs -- it has the ability to make the drinker feel so darn good for a time. It knocks away the stress of the day, tends to make companions of all, comforts the lonely, eases the pains of the ill, calms the anxieties of the worried and makes it far easier to get laid.

Of course, there are the hangovers to be concerned about, which get worse and worse as you age.

I used to watch these old westerns on TV where they used booze to knock out some guy who was going to get a bullet or arrow dug out of him. I thought that was pretty cool -- until I got older and realized that when the patient awoke, not only would he be in pain from the surgery, but have to suffer through a major hangover.

I had to stop drinking years ago. Yeah, I'm a member of AA even if I no longer go to meetings.

A guy in a movie once told a non-drinker that 'the best you'll feel all day is when you get up in the morning.' Meaning that he could feel better any time he wanted with a shot.

He was right.

Alcohol hits certain parts of the brain like no other drugs can. That feeling is in itself addicting. Plus, when you're below 40, most people can just shake off a basic hangover, but the older you get, the harder it is until you wind up drinking to avoid the condition.

I figure they'll never stop boozing. However, I think they do need to start restricting the massive amount of advertising that goes into pushing booze as the most wonderful thing you can do and correlating it with being smart, sexy, cool and manly.

BTW, I've had Gin and it tastes like shiat unless you mix it with something. A friend of mine switched to gin when out drinking because he hated it so much he would not get plastered. It kept him from drinking too much.

I also noticed when booze companies came out with 40's and later, started flavoring the contents like soft drinks. It also surprised me to find out that MD20/20, the gut wash of the poor and down and out, was made by the well known wine producer, Morgan-David. Not for taste either, but alcohol content.

Prohibition failed. Folks want to drink. However, advertising it as the next best thing since mothers' milk and hinting that something is wrong with you if you DON'T drink is not a good thing.

Try and find a major televised sports event that DOESN'T have tons of beer ads plastered on the screen, walls and jumbotron.
 
2012-03-26 04:36:50 AM
Let us sing our own treasures, Old England's good cheer,
To the profits and pleasures of stout British beer;
Your wine tippling, dram sipping fellows retreat,
But your beer drinking Britons can never be beat.
The French with their vineyards and meager pale ale,
They drink from the squeezing of half ripe fruit;
But we, who have hop-yards to mellow our ale,
Are rosy and plump and have freedom to boot.


And, from the US comes Edgar Allan Poe.

Lines on Ale (1848), by Edgar Allen Poe (1809 - 1849)

Filled with mingled cream and amber,
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chamber of my brain.
Quaintest thoughts, queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away.
What care I how time advances;
I am drinking ale today.
 
2012-03-26 04:38:22 AM
If there are less tears and prayers it must be that things are going better (which is a good thing). Perhaps the tavern is the better option.
 
2012-03-26 04:42:06 AM
phrawgh: If there are less tears and prayers it must be that things are going better (which is a good thing). Perhaps the tavern is the better option.

solemn and somber songs versus drunken happy songs
repressed anger vs sudden drunken brawls that end up with drinking with the guy you were fighting with
a god that prohibits the small pleasures of life vs a god that gave us hops, wine, maguey, and barley to use

If there is a God, and he does love us, he'd preffer us to praise him in joy, rather than the pale, tasteless rites we use.

/And all this is coming from a born-catholic
 
2012-03-26 04:47:20 AM
scrimbrown.files.wordpress.com

Those 14th century English pubs could be quite surprising places...
 
2012-03-26 04:48:21 AM
Can't have one without the other, Archie. Didn't 1000 years tell you anything?
 
2012-03-26 04:49:25 AM
I bow my head before a ceramic throne.
 
2012-03-26 04:50:10 AM
CygnusDarius: phrawgh: If there are less tears and prayers it must be that things are going better (which is a good thing). Perhaps the tavern is the better option.

solemn and somber songs versus drunken happy songs
repressed anger vs sudden drunken brawls that end up with drinking with the guy you were fighting with
a god that prohibits the small pleasures of life vs a god that gave us hops, wine, maguey, and barley to use

If there is a God, and he does love us, he'd preffer us to praise him in joy, rather than the pale, tasteless rites we use.

/And all this is coming from a born-catholic


I just tapped my beer can against my screen in an Internet Toast to you, sir.
 
2012-03-26 04:56:38 AM
Bad water is worse than beer.
 
2012-03-26 04:58:05 AM
Rik01:
I figure they'll never stop boozing. However, I think they do need to start restricting the massive amount of advertising that goes into pushing booze as the most wonderful thing you can do and correlating it with being smart, sexy, cool and manly.


Glad to hear you've made peace in your life without it. Best wishes to you. That said well....booze sales pay the rent for a lot of vendors. Bottled water doesn't sell a damn especially if the drinking fountain is free. God knows that early years of mine selling beer at Spring Training games in AZ that 10 hours of hawking Bud and Coors paid my rent and bills when in college. And my own beer. Tips from hot college girls in the lawn areas made 100F heat worth it.
 
2012-03-26 05:00:49 AM
Lower alcohol consumption than most of Europe. But we've got a problem. Right.
 
2012-03-26 05:04:27 AM
always remember, the American Revolution was largely fomented in the saloons of Boston and elsewhere. Take away our drinks and freedom loses. Fark the Man! Have a drink!

yes, i've been drinking. why do you ask?
 
Heb
2012-03-26 05:04:42 AM
farkeruk: Lower alcohol consumption than most of Europe. But we've got a problem. Right.

I'm willing to bet we drink that lower consumption in far tighter time frames.

And then we have a kebab.
 
2012-03-26 05:11:45 AM
As far back as 1362, the Archbishop of Canterbury said: "The tavern is worshipped rather than the church, gluttony and drunkenness is more abundant than tears and prayers"

He says that like its a bad thing.
 
2012-03-26 05:12:55 AM
Baron Harkonnen: [scrimbrown.files.wordpress.com image 462x443]

Those 14th century English pubs could be quite surprising places...


+1
 
2012-03-26 05:20:46 AM
I'm a religious drunk and this is where I pray The church of alcoholics can't break up the congregation Give us air to breathe, through carbonation We are at liquor church, genuflecting on barstools We're praying that the taps will keep the holy water flowing Key kicks of communion, then a long night of confessions Coming home after noon seems to raise a lot of questions When in Minnesota and you got a drinking quota
 
2012-03-26 05:22:09 AM
"The tavern is worshipped rather than the church, gluttony and drunkenness is more abundant than tears and prayers"

I can easily prove that alcohol exists. You can't say the same about god.
 
2012-03-26 05:30:43 AM
JuggleGeek: "The tavern is worshipped rather than the church, gluttony and drunkenness is more abundant than tears and prayers"

I can easily prove that alcohol exists. You can't say the same about god.


You can if you drink enough alcohol.
 
2012-03-26 05:30:48 AM
Rik01: Booze is NOT unique among drugs -- it has the ability to make the drinker feel so darn good for a time. It knocks away the stress of the day, tends to make companions of all, comforts the lonely, eases the pains of the ill, calms the anxieties of the worried and makes it far easier to get laid.

MDMA, Cocaine, Amphetamine, Weed (maybe not the getting laid bit for that one)
 
2012-03-26 05:31:35 AM
JuggleGeek: "The tavern is worshipped rather than the church, gluttony and drunkenness is more abundant than tears and prayers"

I can easily prove that alcohol exists. You can't say the same about god.


winnah
 
2012-03-26 05:32:59 AM
dready zim: Rik01: Booze is NOT unique among drugs -- it has the ability to make the drinker feel so darn good for a time. It knocks away the stress of the day, tends to make companions of all, comforts the lonely, eases the pains of the ill, calms the anxieties of the worried and makes it far easier to get laid.

MDMA, Cocaine, Amphetamine, Weed (maybe not the getting laid bit for that one)

Yeah, weed always worked pretty good for that one
 
2012-03-26 05:35:37 AM
Omahawg: always remember, the American Revolution was largely fomented in the saloons of Boston and elsewhere. Take away our drinks and freedom loses. Fark the Man! Have a drink!

yes, i've been drinking. why do you ask?


actually theres truth to that tho.

a number of the men who organized the boston tea party were rum runners in the caribbean to french islands. the british navy had cleansed the carribean of piracy making trading with the french and spanish very safe and lucrative, since Britain was at war with both FR and ES off and on... trading with the enemy was good business.

the brits wanted to raise the taxes on the colonials, knowing full well what was going on, basically saying "cmon lads fund your own defense" and were genuinely surprised when they got so pissed off.
 
2012-03-26 05:37:08 AM
gluttony and drunkenness is more abundant than tears and prayers

Then again, gluttony and drunkennes have bettered the life of many more people than tears and prayers.

Does this guy wishes that more people to feel miserable and be in a constant state of sobbing and crying? Sick bastard.
 
2012-03-26 05:42:57 AM
Heb: farkeruk: Lower alcohol consumption than most of Europe. But we've got a problem. Right.

I'm willing to bet we drink that lower consumption in far tighter time frames.

And then we have a kebab.


Yup, lower consumption, all compressed into Friday and Saturday night for the most part I would suspect.

...will sir be requiring a fight with his kebab this evening?
 
2012-03-26 05:51:28 AM
farkeruk: Lower alcohol consumption than most of Europe. But we've got a problem. Right.

Typical Friday night in a typical German town: drunk people milling around, being a bit loud.

Typical Friday night in a typical English town: drunk people stumbling around, puking everywhere and beating the crap out of each other

It's not how much you drink, it's how you drink it and how you act. I think decades of the 11pm closing is partly to blame, because if you got to the pub at 9, you had 2 hours to get shiatfaced before you were kicked out, so you'd drink as fast as possible. And that just became the way that people do it.

Other countries just aren't in a hurry, which is why they're more relaxed when they're drunk.
 
2012-03-26 05:52:49 AM
Archbishop of Canterbury trifecta is now in play?
 
2012-03-26 06:23:37 AM
Pray in one hand and vomit in the other and see which fills up first, I always say.
 
2012-03-26 06:24:29 AM
Alcohol temporarily cures ugly. Religion exacerbates it.
 
2012-03-26 06:26:24 AM
epoc_tnac: I think decades of the 11pm closing is partly to blame, because if you got to the pub at 9, you had 2 hours to get shiatfaced before you were kicked out, so you'd drink as fast as possible. And that just became the way that people do it.

There's definitely a big psychological thing with that. The typical reaction to last orders was that people would down what they had in their hand and order another. The change to all-day drinking didn't result in people staying off from work all afternoon- what actually happened was that people stopped having 2 hour lunches on Fridays. If I go out on a work night out now, people just leave when they've had enough - this pressure to go the whole night isn't there.

When the last government introduced extended drinking, nighttime crime went down. The tories lied by cherry-picking the 3am to 6am which is a tiny proportion of the statistics, and the newspapers all ran "night time crime has gone up", but the statistics show that crime went down.
 
2012-03-26 06:29:54 AM
Well he might need to take back a web address or two first...

Link (new window)

"If you fancy a few drinks, a laugh, a dance and the chance to sing your heart out to some new and classic rock on a Sunday afternoon then Church is the place for you.

The show is risque...the comedian swears (!), but it's all very light hearted!

The crowd are very relaxed and are all there to have a good time, expect people to talk to you, don't expect attitude or posing.

Nearly every week there's someone in fancy dress so feel free to wear what you like, girls dress for a gig, we wouldn't advise high heels. There is no dress code otherwise.

We only serve drink in cans, they don't break if you drop them and are quick to serve so keeping queues down at the bar."

pl.b5z.net
 
2012-03-26 06:34:52 AM
I can only see 650 years of boozin', subby.
 
Heb
2012-03-26 06:40:48 AM
Sure this has been on here before, but the Cardiff at night pics are excellent

As is Cardiff for that matter.

http://www.pbase.com/maciekda/cardiff_st_mary_street_zone
 
Heb
2012-03-26 06:41:57 AM
If wasn't drunk all the time I'd work out how to actually post links and pictures on this thing

Link
 
2012-03-26 06:53:53 AM
Rik01: BTW, I've had Gin and it tastes like shiat unless you mix it with something

You're obviously under-qualified to comment on alcohol as a whole. n00b
 
2012-03-26 06:56:47 AM
Also your friend must have strange taste buds. Most people I know who start off with straight drink 10 times what they might have sans juniper.
 
2012-03-26 07:35:45 AM
doglover: Also your friend must have strange taste buds. Most people I know who start off with straight drink 10 times what they might have sans juniper.

Maybe. I don't like gin, either.
 
2012-03-26 07:43:44 AM
Vow of poverty and all that bling....mmmmhm

Too many people just too stupid~~never gettin outta the dark ages~~gonna keep kissin that ring and lickin that royal tail...smfh
 
2012-03-26 07:53:07 AM
Britain, nay, the world oughta' call time on religion until it can figure out which one is the *real* one, and then, those inclined would just naturally go with that one. No?
 
2012-03-26 07:53:32 AM
The church doesn't help us escape the government's daily fudgepacking.
 
2012-03-26 08:00:59 AM
"Malt does more than Milton can to justify god's ways to man."


I don't drink myself, but I have had to slog my way through Milton, and copious amounts of booze likely would have helped that ugly task.
 
2012-03-26 08:06:27 AM
dready zim: Rik01: Booze is NOT unique among drugs -- it has the ability to make the drinker feel so darn good for a time. It knocks away the stress of the day, tends to make companions of all, comforts the lonely, eases the pains of the ill, calms the anxieties of the worried and makes it far easier to get laid.

MDMA, Cocaine, Amphetamine, Weed (maybe not the getting laid bit for that one)


I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say DATURA!!
 
2012-03-26 08:07:32 AM
pxlboy: doglover: Also your friend must have strange taste buds. Most people I know who start off with straight drink 10 times what they might have sans juniper.

Maybe. I don't like gin, either.


Mixing gin is what you would call gilding the lily.

I personally don't like a lot of peat in my whiskey. That doesn't mean I go around putting soda water or grapefruit juice in single malt saying "It's the only way to choke it down."

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not good. Nor does it mean you won't soon get a taste for it. The lovely play of the different spices in Bombay Sapphire is much different than that Spain's Xorringer, but they're both lovely.
 
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