bunner: MadAzza: MOAR DOG PICS!!!!!

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I'll fetch some.

ZOMG that's adorable!

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Meanwhile, in most cities across America...and Canada, this is the typical day for a homeless person. We treat dog and cats *sniff*, better than we do people. And we have farkers who are so f*cking warped in their sense of priorities you'll have them advocating for a stray dog, but can't get behind universal medical care.
Yeah, that's not too f*cked up.

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It's not a troll. It's pointing out that people care about animals, and couldn't seem to care less about their fellow humans unless it's Christmas or Easter. Hypof*ckingcrits.

Yeah, but dogs are likable.

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That'd keep me warm at night, if I lived someplace cold!

lohphat:

Poi dog luv!

Indeed. She's what the Hawaiian Humane Society (and others, I imagine) call a "terrier mix." That's "we don't want to scare people away" code for "pit bull mix."

She, too, has no food aggression (she's almost disinterested in food), and is a sweetheart. She plays with a bunch of dogs in the park across the street every morning -- she gets along well with other dogs, once they realize she's alpha and bend to her will. She's smart as a whip and uses her front paws as hands to manipulate/pick up toys, doorknobs, people, and various household items.

God, I sound like the mother of a two-year-old. "My child is so cute and smart and blah blah blah ad nauseum ..." OK, I'll shut up now.

MadAzza:
I'm not speaking for myself; I love all dogs. And cats. And most people. It was a fu(king joke. What the hell is going on with everyone today?

The reason that people who are getting their panties in a twist over this are raging is because they know how we treat our fellow human beings. I was homeless for almost a month back in the late 80's, sleeping in my car with the few possessions I had and just waiting for someone to break in and kill me in my sleep so they could steal it. I know how it feels to realize that if you died the only people to give a sh*t about you is the guy that will operate the backhoe at your paupers' burial.

Now for those people who are making an effort to help the homeless, kudos. You work the food banks, you raise money, you give of yourself and your time, and that is a good thing. You are what help make humanity worth saving and I applaud you. The initial post, however, was not directed toward you, but toward the millions who can give a f*ck but don't give a f*ck. They have money, and resources, and power, but no compassion... and there are plenty of them in this country. They know we could do better than we have been doing, and that there is no excuse for the wealthiest country in the world to even HAVE homeless people. None.

rewind2846: MadAzza:
I'm not speaking for myself; I love all dogs. And cats. And most people. It was a fu(king joke. What the hell is going on with everyone today?

The reason that people who are getting their panties in a twist over this are raging is because they know how we treat our fellow human beings. I was homeless for almost a month back in the late 80's, sleeping in my car with the few possessions I had and just waiting for someone to break in and kill me in my sleep so they could steal it. I know how it feels to realize that if you died the only people to give a sh*t about you is the guy that will operate the backhoe at your paupers' burial.

Now for those people who are making an effort to help the homeless, kudos. You work the food banks, you raise money, you give of yourself and your time, and that is a good thing. You are what help make humanity worth saving and I applaud you. The initial post, however, was not directed toward you, but toward the millions who can give a f*ck but don't give a f*ck. They have money, and resources, and power, but no compassion... and there are plenty of them in this country. They know we could do better than we have been doing, and that there is no excuse for the wealthiest country in the world to even HAVE homeless people. None.

Why do people answer rhetorical questions?

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Minnie was found on the side of the road in a garbage bag with a medicinal collar and a prolapsed rectum. Most spoiled dog in the world now.

I think whoever put her in that garbage bag should be stuffed in one themselves, complete with prolapsed rectum. Sounds fair.

MadAzza: Why do people answer rhetorical questions?

Well, it's because sometimes there is a........wait a miiiiinute.

MadAzza:

Why do people answer rhetorical questions?

Cause it's fun.
Cause I'm bored.
Cause I'm waiting for dinner to finish baking (home made lasagna) in about an hour.

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Pip was a rescue too.

I wonder if dogs laugh at each other when their owners aren't around when they're dressed like this?
/kudos on the rescue
//have had two shelter pooches myself
///apartment complex won't let me have a dog now unless I pay an extra $300 a month rent
///I haz a sad instead

Since this thread is now back on track from the asshole that hijacked it....

Moar Dozer. A 3 month old brindle american staffordshire terrier mix. Great little pup.

Shaddup: Since this thread is now back on track from the asshole that hijacked it....

Moar Dozer. A 3 month old brindle american staffordshire terrier mix. Great little pup.

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That is beyond cute.

Shaddup: Moar Dozer. A 3 month old brindle american staffordshire terrier mix. Great little pup.

Perfect name, Dozer.

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Meanwhile, in most cities across America...and Canada, this is the typical day for a homeless person. We treat dog and cats *sniff*, better than we do people. And we have farkers who are so f*cking warped in their sense of priorities you'll have them advocating for a stray dog, but can't get behind universal medical care.
Yeah, that's not too f*cked up.

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It's not a troll. It's pointing out that people care about animals, and couldn't seem to care less about their fellow humans unless it's Christmas or Easter. Hypof*ckingcrits.

LOOK, DICKHEAD...I got room for BOTH priorities, and then some. I hit the donate button for the dog folks, did you? Meanwhile, ass-a-lope, next week I'm building a DVD music vid to sell for the benefit of Food Shelters and donating alltime and materials as well as a chunk of my own change for the 4th year in a row.

Shut the fark up with your shiat-for-brains false equivalencies.

Yeah, I can tell your a real warm and fuzzy person...who gets all bent out of shape because of a thread on fark.

You're so full of shiat your eyes are brown.

Trolls are sooooo cool. http://www.hell.tv/t/videos/8070/bbc-troll-confronted.html

rewind2846: MadAzza:
I'm not speaking for myself; I love all dogs. And cats. And most people. It was a fu(king joke. What the hell is going on with everyone today?

The reason that people who are getting their panties in a twist over this are raging is because they know how we treat our fellow human beings. I was homeless for almost a month back in the late 80's, sleeping in my car with the few possessions I had and just waiting for someone to break in and kill me in my sleep so they could steal it. I know how it feels to realize that if you died the only people to give a sh*t about you is the guy that will operate the backhoe at your paupers' burial.

Now for those people who are making an effort to help the homeless, kudos. You work the food banks, you raise money, you give of yourself and your time, and that is a good thing. You are what help make humanity worth saving and I applaud you. The initial post, however, was not directed toward you, but toward the millions who can give a f*ck but don't give a f*ck. They have money, and resources, and power, but no compassion... and there are plenty of them in this country. They know we could do better than we have been doing, and that there is no excuse for the wealthiest country in the world to even HAVE homeless people. None.

Were you on the street thru some failing of your own? Did you ask for help? Did you get it? Were/are you capable of helping yourself? Do you understand the difference between the dog's situation and yours now?

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Meanwhile, in most cities across America...and Canada, this is the typical day for a homeless person. We treat dog and cats *sniff*, better than we do people. And we have farkers who are so f*cking warped in their sense of priorities you'll have them advocating for a stray dog, but can't get behind universal medical care.
Yeah, that's not too f*cked up.

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It's not a troll. It's pointing out that people care about animals, and couldn't seem to care less about their fellow humans unless it's Christmas or Easter. Hypof*ckingcrits.


Lots of homeless humans seem to be homeless by choice and/or are complete pieces of shiat. After interacting with many of these people out of sympathy, I have no longer have any sympathy for them and no longer want to interact with them. There are some homeless people that actually need help and know what to do with it when they get it. These people aren't homeless for very long.

Dogs, cats, and other pet animals are almost completely dependent on humans for their well being, with the exception of some cats. Their species have been crafted by humans. They were usually raised by humans and, again, are quite dependent on them by default. Because of this, the human species owes it to them to rescue them when they're homeless and do what they can to make their lives livable.

And you're acting like the money spent to rescue dogs and cats is so much more than money spent to reduce and prevent homelessness, which is ridiculous. Money spent on humans completely dwarfs that spent on the well being of animals.

That dog looks exactly like my blind dog. I have not considered getting her cataracts removed because she is so old and very mobile, able to go up and down all stairs without difficulty.

I'll probably turn to stone when the sun comes up, but all those battery-caged chickens and feed-lot cows that were ground up and fed to her looked equally pitiful. Sorry, but if you care about animal suffering, you can't keep carnivores as pets.

Gnarwhal: I'll probably turn to stone when the sun comes up, but all those battery-caged chickens and feed-lot cows that were ground up and fed to her looked equally pitiful. Sorry, but if you care about animal suffering, you can't keep carnivores as pets.

Now this too? I don't know which one is worse, the "You care more about dogs/cats than people" angle or the "If you really care about animals, what about the cows/chickens/pigs/livestock that make up you and your pet's food" angle. It's as though you and people like you think we're incapable of caring about more than one thing at a time. Amazing.

jigger: Lots of homeless humans seem to be homeless by choice and/or are complete pieces of shiat. After interacting with many of these people out of sympathy, I have no longer have any sympathy for them and no longer want to interact with them. There are some homeless people that actually need help and know what to do with it when they get it. These people aren't homeless for very long.

Uh... most homeless people are mentally ill. Don't be a jerk.

dig420:

Were you on the street thru some failing of your own? Did you ask for help? Did you get it? Were/are you capable of helping yourself? Do you understand the difference between the dog's situation and yours now?

And yet another one falls into the trap.

Let me clue you in on a little something - sometimes sh*t just happens, and sometimes sh*t just happens to you. Automatically assuming that it's always the homeless person's fault is a sign of a psychopathic and selfish personality, one who usually votes republican, and one of the people of whom I speak with resources and money but no compassion.
When I see a homeless person, am I more concerned with how they got there, or am I more concerned with how I can help them help themselves get out?

That is the difference.
/at least dogs can become feral
//they survived for millions of years as wolves before we came along
///humans could not have survived as a species without other humans

Yay rescue pup thread!

Here's a few new arrivals at the shelter (^)I work at:




These lab pups were found in a box on the side of a busy highway. They only lasted about 3 days at the shelter before they were scooped up by eager adopters :)

rewind2846: dig420:

Were you on the street thru some failing of your own? Did you ask for help? Did you get it? Were/are you capable of helping yourself? Do you understand the difference between the dog's situation and yours now?

And yet another one falls into the trap.

Let me clue you in on a little something - sometimes sh*t just happens, and sometimes sh*t just happens to you. Automatically assuming that it's always the homeless person's fault is a sign of a psychopathic and selfish personality, one who usually votes republican, and one of the people of whom I speak with resources and money but no compassion.
When I see a homeless person, am I more concerned with how they got there, or am I more concerned with how I can help them help themselves get out?

That is the difference.
/at least dogs can become feral
//they survived for millions of years as wolves before we came along
///humans could not have survived as a species without other humans

I agree with what you are saying. I think what others are trying to say is that SOME (key word) homeless are there because of issues like mental illness, substance abuse problems, etc., while others (like yourself) managed to quickly get back on your feet. That's why, like in most case, each individual story is going to be different. This is why labeling large groups (like that assbag did in the first troll post) is simply put, stupid.

I've spoken to many homeless people and even befriended one that's close to my house. He was homeless by choice and was very old (in his 70's). I finally found out that he actually HAD a home that he lived in but it was in absolute shambles (no electricity, water, etc.). He was a Korean and Vietnam war vet, and was actually quite educated. This was around Thanksgiving and I gave him around $100, took him to the store and got him some groceries. I simply didn't have enough money to get his power or water put back on, but I contacted a few groups that went out and looked into his situation and helped. He was a very nice old man that simply had no family to speak of and no one gave a shiat about him.

Oddly enough, I was brought to him by none other than 2 stray dogs that he had befriended. I saw them in the grocery store parking lot, was concerned about their well being, and followed them to his house. Of course I went back to the store and bought about a months worth of food and treats for his only friends in the world.

So yeah I get pissed off when trolls, like that idiot darwin dipshiat, makes broad sweeping generalizations about how 'Muricans' treat their homeless. There are thousands out there that do what they can to help.

soupbone: I agree with what you are saying. I think what others are trying to say is that SOME (key word) homeless are there because of issues like mental illness, substance abuse problems, etc.

Most... the word is MOST. Aside from some of the faux street punks and neo hippies pretty much all of the homeless folks I met were completely messed up. And once you are homeless it is extremely difficult to get a leg up in the world. You can't get welfare without an address, you can't a place without money, the longer you are on the streets the less likely a property owner is going to rent to you, etc...

It's a vicious cycle. Despite what many conservative jackwads spew very few people enjoy living outdoors.

rewind2846: dig420:

Were you on the street thru some failing of your own? Did you ask for help? Did you get it? Were/are you capable of helping yourself? Do you understand the difference between the dog's situation and yours now?

And yet another one falls into the trap.

Let me clue you in on a little something - sometimes sh*t just happens, and sometimes sh*t just happens to you. Automatically assuming that it's always the homeless person's fault is a sign of a psychopathic and selfish personality, one who usually votes republican, and one of the people of whom I speak with resources and money but no compassion.
When I see a homeless person, am I more concerned with how they got there, or am I more concerned with how I can help them help themselves get out?

That is the difference.
/at least dogs can become feral
//they survived for millions of years as wolves before we came along
///humans could not have survived as a species without other humans

Let me clue YOU in on something: dogs aren't wolves anymore, and if you ended up on the street it's far more likely than not that you did something or didn't do something that put you there, because you are NOT helpless, unless you're an infant. So no, I don't feel particularly sorry for you unless you're ill or diseased, in which case there's nothing I can do to help you anyway except pay my taxes and support the right politicians. I'm as liberal as they come, but I'm also a man and I expect YOU to be a man. Take responsibility for correcting the situations you find yourself in because you created them. Quit the sobbing, quit complaining that people are helping helpless animals instead of giving YOU money. Get a job, go to work, man up.

here to help: soupbone: I agree with what you are saying. I think what others are trying to say is that SOME (key word) homeless are there because of issues like mental illness, substance abuse problems, etc.

Most... the word is MOST. Aside from some of the faux street punks and neo hippies pretty much all of the homeless folks I met were completely messed up. And once you are homeless it is extremely difficult to get a leg up in the world. You can't get welfare without an address, you can't a place without money, the longer you are on the streets the less likely a property owner is going to rent to you, etc...

It's a vicious cycle. Despite what many conservative jackwads spew very few people enjoy living outdoors.

Listen up bub.........no seriously I understand. My wife works with them on a daily basis in her job. Once you reach that point, it's incredibly difficult to get back on your feet.

rewind2846: dig420:

Were you on the street thru some failing of your own? Did you ask for help? Did you get it? Were/are you capable of helping yourself? Do you understand the difference between the dog's situation and yours now?

And yet another one falls into the trap.

Let me clue you in on a little something - sometimes sh*t just happens, and sometimes sh*t just happens to you. Automatically assuming that it's always the homeless person's fault is a sign of a psychopathic and selfish personality, one who usually votes republican, and one of the people of whom I speak with resources and money but no compassion.
When I see a homeless person, am I more concerned with how they got there, or am I more concerned with how I can help them help themselves get out?

That is the difference.
/at least dogs can become feral
//they survived for millions of years as wolves before we came along
///humans could not have survived as a species without other humans

Damnit, I forgot to add one thing. Fark needs an edit post option. The bolded part is just not true anymore. Once they became domesticated and heavily relied upon us for food and shelter, that type of survival mechanism is almost nonexistent now. There's a reason why feral is considered a bad thing and it is only partly because of them trying to use their instincts to survive. They just can't hack it without us anymore and I believe someone above put it in context. Dogs and humans are symbiotic in nature now. Reversing millions of years of domestication just isn't going to happen, which is why I try and help homeless dogs.

soupbone: So yeah I get pissed off when trolls, like that idiot darwin dipshiat, makes broad sweeping generalizations about how 'Muricans' treat their homeless. There are thousands out there that do what they can to help.

But there is merit to his assumption, because for every one like you or I that give a sh*t, there are so many more that don't or won't - and then blame the homeless for their situation, as if they were committing some cardinal sin by being on the streets.
We as americans tend to equate money with virtue... wealthy people are somehow seen as more deserving of our respect than those lower down on the economic ladder. The less money you have, the lower on the evolutionary ladder you must be.
There are rich people who are famous and admired not because they have actually done something to help their fellow humans, but just because they are rich.
This is as a society, but not every member of the society believes this way, which is why we have people actually working to help those at the bottom.

As a nation, we don't treat our homeless as we should. With all of our wealth there shouldn't even BE any homeless that don't want to be. Yet here we are.

soupbone: Listen up bub.........no seriously I understand. My wife works with them on a daily basis in her job. Once you reach that point, it's incredibly difficult to get back on your feet.

As impoverished as I've been in the past I always did everything I possibly could to avoid crossing that threshold (and believe me I came close many many times) because I KNEW it can take years to recover... bub.

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MadAzza: MOAR DOG PICS!!!!!

OK.

What an adopted-from-a-shelter dog that now is living the good life might look like.



What two of them might look like.

soupbone: Reversing millions of years of domestication just isn't going to happen, which is why I try and help homeless dogs.

For the smaller toy species, no. They would die off quickly if we disappeared. Anything terrier-sized or larger would probably do just fine within a few generations after we left. They would change shape like dingoes and african wild dogs with interbreeding, and would hunt rats and other creatures just like they did before, joining packs and doing their dog thing.

Same with cows and other domesticated species. Many would die, but some would survive, and their offspring would interbreed and do the same things their pre-human ancestors did. They would get leaner, learn to run again (away from the dog packs) and become more like the bison that roam the plains now. We brought horses here as domestic animals, yet plenty still run free in the west. They'll make it.

Nature works, especially when we don't mess with it.

Shaddup: Since this thread is now back on track from the asshole that hijacked it....

Moar Dozer. A 3 month old brindle american staffordshire terrier mix. Great little pup.

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I lurv brindley doggies. I also always wanted a beagle, they always look like puppies but dang they're loud.

Solution- beagle/Heeler mix shelter dog. She has a little brindling going on, not much. She does have the beagle cute without the beagle voice :-)

I don't have a pic that shows her stripes.

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Do you know what breed he is? I rescued what could be his twin brother and not sure what he is. Not that it much matters. The vet suggested McNab. I've heard Border Collie/ Kelpie, Basenji, etc.

Welcome to FARK where anybody who disagrees with you is a troll and a thread hijacker and gets called names. I like dogs. I like kitties. I like the idea of taking care of the helpless. Even if they don't walk on all fours. We can anthropomorphize our furry friends all we want, but at the end of he day, we love them because they enhance the quality of our lives. A lot of people could use that.

vapor_trail: Do you know what breed he is?

She's only about 13 lbs. Got her before she was sent to a shelter. I honestly don't know what she is. I've heard 'em all..Rat Terrier, Jack Russell, Whippet, Chihuahua, and any mix of the 4 and more.
She's small enough to chill on the back of my chair.
Same head as yours though!

dig420: I'm as liberal as they come, but I'm also a man and I expect YOU to be a man. Take responsibility for correcting the situations you find yourself in because you created them. Quit the sobbing, quit complaining that people are helping helpless animals instead of giving YOU money. Get a job, go to work, man up.

Remember that little part you neglected to read (or have someone read to you) that said this happened to me in the late 80's? Well since then I have "gotten a job". Several of them in fact. Went to school too, and earned two degrees. Make a good income and may even buy my first house this year, depending on what me and my girl decide.

But you see, unlike you I realize that all that I have achieved could be gone in an instant, and any one of us who sit smugly in the middle class can become homeless through no fault of their own much more quickly than we would like to think, which is why I have compassion for those people unfortunate enough to find themselves in that situation. What we have, we earned, but nothing is permanent.

You, on the other hand, have now confirmed your psychopathic tendencies in just a few posts and are no longer worthy of my time. I neither need, nor want your money, and will not be reading your posts in future. That might break your heart, but hey, man up. You'll make it.

I have lasagna to eat, so c ya.

I AM RUNNING OUT OF MONEY FARKERS!



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I deal with homeless and semi-homeless in an oblique way (accident of the job). The ones I encounter are often obviously either mentally ill and/or incredibly manipulative.

A lot of them are on the sex offender registry list and these dudes are not the unfortunates busted for sleeping with an underage girlfriend without much age gap, or peeing drunkenly in the gutter. These are pervs looking for easy marks, and some are quite insane on top of the perviness.

I don't know what can be done to help them but it's not like you can pick one up off of a trash pile, take them home, shave and bathe them, and expect to rehabilitate them. It's not like you can go to a shelter and pick out a homeless person to adopt. It doesn't work that way. I guess you could ask a homeless person to adopt them, and then watch as they drain you dry of resources and empathy, if they don't just wander out the door.

Anyone remember Huck Finn's dad? That's pretty much representative of a no-good drunk and the uselessness of trying to rehabilitate somebody like that.

I really don't see what people get upset by other people loving animals ... what is wrong with lessening the misery in the world? I am willing to bet a good proportion of the "why don't you help the homeless trolls" have never worked in a soup kitchen and never give to charity.

URAPNIS: vapor_trail: Do you know what breed he is?

She's only about 13 lbs. Got her before she was sent to a shelter. I honestly don't know what she is. I've heard 'em all..Rat Terrier, Jack Russell, Whippet, Chihuahua, and any mix of the 4 and more.
She's small enough to chill on the back of my chair.
Same head as yours though!

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She's smaller than I thought. Laika is 35 lbs, give or take. They both have enormous ears with respect to head size, makes them even cuter. I love mutts and can't figure out why anyone would want a purebred. To each his own, I s'pose.