Tsrwedge: WhyteRaven74: Tsrwedge: F1 is probably, what, quarter again as fast as IndyCar?

Depends on the track. Keep in mind Indy cars can do 220 plus on an oval. Or they could, not sure what the new cars will do.

Well, if F1 was running Indy, they'd have much less drag and would probably destroy the IndyCars.

An F1 car couldn't competitively run on an Indy oval without an Indy set-up. Just like an Indy car couldn't run an F1 course without an F1 set-up. Comparing a car built particularly for acceleration and cornering to a car built particularly for top speed and long straightaways is fruitless.

jwrw: foo monkey: One is a parade where the winner is determined on the first turn. The other is Indy Car. Also, Indy Car can field more than six cars at IMS.

The leader at turn one finished third. The winner started from P8 and second place from P9. Yes, all determined from turn one.

Today was fairly rare. When it rains all bets are off and anything can happen. In the dry, barring penalties and/or stupid driving, the results are predictable and the race does resemble high-speed parade laps for the front-runners.

You know this, so why would you get upset about someone telling it like it is?

SniperJoe: carnifex2005: The only reason I don't think that is because Sauber really, really needed that showing. For pure monetary risk/reward point of view, passing would have been too much of a risk.

Yes and no. As UNC Samurai above has stated, Ferrari are a bunch of colluding assholes, so it's certainly possible that they said, "Nice engine supply you've got there, it would be a shame if something happened to it!" However, the drivers all want to win and think of the story that would have been told if Perez won. But getting past Alonso wouldn't have been easy at all, as he is regarded as one of the strongest defenders out there.

This. especially with the radio transmission right before the turn overshoot. Perez's engineer was telling him that "We need this spot"

I can't stand all the love that Varsha, Hobbs and Matchett shower upon Ferrari

Norfolking Chance: nightronin: SniperJoe: carnifex2005: The only reason I don't think that is because Sauber really, really needed that showing. For pure monetary risk/reward point of view, passing would have been too much of a risk.

Yes and no. As UNC Samurai above has stated, Ferrari are a bunch of colluding assholes, so it's certainly possible that they said, "Nice engine supply you've got there, it would be a shame if something happened to it!" However, the drivers all want to win and think of the story that would have been told if Perez won. But getting past Alonso wouldn't have been easy at all, as he is regarded as one of the strongest defenders out there.

This. especially with the radio transmission right before the turn overshoot. Perez's engineer was telling him that "We need this spot"

I can't stand all the love that Varsha, Hobbs and Matchett shower upon Ferrari

For Sauber a 2nd place is much much better than competing for 1st and breaking down/going off. Sauber don't have the money behind them and need the publicity and prize money/points of a 2nd place. I wouldn't put it past Ferrari to strong arm them but there isn't a man alive in the paddock that wouldn't of done the same thing in Saubers place. This 2nd place means Sauber will be racing next season, its that simple.

I'm not disputing that, but the timing of the message and Perez's missed turn seem a little strange. Maybe I'm just reading too much into the situation.

That being said, I can't stand the fact that Alonso won. I hope that Lotus can maintain these grid positions

nightronin: I'm not disputing that, but the timing of the message and Perez's missed turn seem a little strange. Maybe I'm just reading too much into the situation.


Uhhhh...no shiat you are.

Perez was driving at 15/10th's...after the off, he still closed on Alonzo's ass in last few corners. Perez didn't take "team orders" from a third party, he was just driving his ass off and got a bit too excited in the situation.

If he ends up with Ferrari after this season, so be it. Honestly I loved seeing an independent-run Sauber finish on the podium. My good friend is a NASCAR guy, and he barely gave a fark what was going on in NASCAR, I had him hook line and sinker into the F1 race today.

/F1 management will find a way to fark-up all the good karma after this race.
//as always

gaspode: Coming here very late as I don't usually come to sportsland, but fark you subby, Sepang has become one of the worlds great race circuits, requiring great skill and subtlety from drivers and teams. Ignorant peasant.

How do you define "one of the world's great race circuits?" Top 10? Top 20? Top 30? Is there anyone who would actually be outraged if it dropped off the face of the earth tomorrow? Sure, it may be the best of the Tilke era, but half of that credit goes to the weather, as we saw yesterday. There's a reason why any motorsports fan already knows New Jersey will be the better of the two US GPs.

/It's actually on okay track
//Do what ya gotta do to get the thread greened.