Shadow Blasko: Then again, a 13 year old girl could be the head of the household in WV in the 40s and up to the 70's.

Daddy works the mine all day, and momma works at the store. The 13 year old could well be responsible for 4 or 5 younger siblings, as well as the financial dealings, and food preparation as well as being a teacher for her siblings.

You grew up fast, or you didn't grow up. I know 16 year old kids in WV today that are more responsible than 20-somethings in college.

I see no reason to bring West Virginia into this.

cavehobbit: FirstNationalBastard: TheHighlandHowler: CrispFlows: ow in the hell did the 13 year old story not kill Lewis's career?

Apparently, for the most part, it did.

From another article (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507350/bio)

The marriage was front-page news around the world. His career was in shambles. He had just signed a five-year contract with Sun Records, and he did continue to record songs until 1963. During the last years of the contract, however, he made very few rock songs. Most of his compositions were ballads, possibly due to his depression at the direction his career had taken.

Yeah, but he was able to make a comeback. IIRC, he started having country hits in the 70s, and he's still fondly remembered as a pioneer of rock to this day .Marrying his 13-year-old cousin hurt him in the short term, but not that badly in the long run.

If someone did that today, they would be shot, hanged, burned, resurrected, shot, burned, and hanged again.

And that would be just the bail hearing

Shadow Blasko: Then again, a 13 year old girl could be the head of the household in WV in the 40s and up to the 70's.

Daddy works the mine all day, and momma works at the store. The 13 year old could well be responsible for 4 or 5 younger siblings, as well as the financial dealings, and food preparation as well as being a teacher for her siblings.

You grew up fast, or you didn't grow up. I know 16 year old kids in WV today that are more responsible than 20-somethings in college.



Look! it's Anne Frank.

Creep........y

Looks like she went straight to the alter right after her First Communion.

ununcle: Is farking a 13 year old cousin wrong these days? Damn I gotta get a radio.

Wouldn't candy be a better lure? If you want to go high-dollar, some cheap Mp3 would do. Ooooh, shiny.

gunther_bumpass: gadian: I thought he died. Like in a plane crash. What a really strange, specific thing to be wrong about.

Don't feel bad. I thought Roy Orbison was blind until I was like, 16.

Well, he is now.

Somewhat Cool Story Time:
I had a customer at the pharmacy who was kind of a nut job. He was your classic 'looks completely out of place everywhere he goes' kind of guy. He was really nice, and very adamant that he was best friends with Jerry Lee Lewis. I really thought he was crazier than a shiathouse rat.

Then one day, he brought in pictures of him and Jerry, hanging out at Jerry's house. Years worth of pictures, so it clearly wasn't a 'I won a day hanging out with a famous person' sort of thing. FYI, all the furniture in Jerry Lee Lewis' house was covered in gold, and all the cushions are covered in plastic. It was the funniest thing to see. They were really good friends and he was genuinely concerned about Jerry and his mental state. This was in the early '90's, so it was about 4-5 years after the movie had come out. So much attention had been put back on Jerry and the relationship, and it was heartbreaking (the customer's words) to see Jerry being raked over the coals again by a new generation of people.

/SCSS, I know.

MadAzza: gunther_bumpass: gadian: I thought he died. Like in a plane crash. What a really strange, specific thing to be wrong about.

Don't feel bad. I thought Roy Orbison was blind until I was like, 16.

Well, he is now.

He's also deaf and dumb, but, sady, can't play pinball.

Shadow Blasko: In the "1st step out of the holler hollow"


And, BTW, that is a beautiful turn of phrase!

FTFSBNFP
(Fixed That For Spelling, But Not For Pronunciation)

/typing this in the mountains outside of "hell town",~30 min away from a WV border
//But.. I was born in NYC... whaddaya gonna do?

more responsible than 20-somethings in college.

I would back up this statement 100%. I'd probably also use myself as evidence.

StoPPeRmobile:

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Look! it's Anne Frank.

I can't find her in this pic, is she trying to talk to the water pump?

Uh oh. This is going to hurt the telethon this year.

CrispFlows: How in the hell did the 13 year old story not kill Lewis's career?

Because a 13 year old story is not news?

FirstNationalBastard: Yeah, but he was able to make a comeback. IIRC, he started having country hits in the 70s, and he's still fondly remembered as a pioneer of rock to this day .Marrying his 13-year-old cousin hurt him in the short term, but not that badly in the long run.

It's a matter of scale.

At the time it happened he had the possibility to literally replace Elvis as the King of Rock and Roll. While Jerry had a decent career after a while, he never got anywhere near what he could have had if he'd waited to marry Myra for a few years. Hell, had he waited he'd have probably gotten tired of her or pissed her off after cheating on her and he'd potentially have been seen as the greatest musician of the golden age of rock and roll.

Unless, of course, he got in trouble for that whole "mysterious death of his wife" thing.

I remember him in the late 80s on some show like 20/20 being quized about how his wifes seemed to have untimely deaths

gunther_bumpass: gadian: I thought he died. Like in a plane crash. What a really strange, specific thing to be wrong about.

Don't feel bad. I thought Roy Orbison was blind until I was like, 16.

That has to be the strangest thing I have in common with another person.

My best friend's mom ended being the one to correct my similar misconception.

kenwastinger: gunther_bumpass: gadian: I thought he died. Like in a plane crash. What a really strange, specific thing to be wrong about.

Don't feel bad. I thought Roy Orbison was blind until I was like, 16.

That has to be the strangest thing I have in common with another person.

My best friend's mom ended being the one to correct my similar misconception.

Rock on, my brother in misconception!

I don't really have a problem with it on a biological level, they are pubescent girls and the majority of males are attracted to girls at the point they can give birth. The only issue I have with is that at 13-17 you still have a warped sense of adulthood. I remember being 13 and hanging out with the 19 year old friends of my older brother and thinking how old and cool they were and I was a male. It wasn't till when I grew older I realized those guys weren't as cool as my inexperienced view would have led me to believe.

Basically it is too easy to be project a false level of superiority that easily gains a 13 year old girl. Not that a 20 year old girl doesn't make stupid picks as well, but the playing field is certainly more level for them and they are at a clear disadvantage at 13 years of age.

doglover: CrispFlows: How in the hell did the 13 year old story not kill Lewis's career?

Because people used to be sane in the 50's. Well, closer to sane.

There was a time when a 16 year old without marriage prospects was nearing "old maid" status.

It was also, you know, the south.

Shadow Blasko: MurphyMurphy: Shadow Blasko: Not saying it is right, but that is just how it was.

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Right and wrong aren't always as clear as black and white.
Often they are just concepts society agrees on.

you're talking about a day when humans weren't coddled and supported by their parents until they turn 36

I agree, it sounds farked up by today's standards, but my grandmother gave birth to my oldest uncle at 14 (grandpa was 16). and they were by no means farked up. they had a huge family, were happier than most and I'd say there were more grounded and sane than most farkers.

I wasn't saying it was wrong either. My grandparents raised 4, and essentially raised all the grandkids (myself included) and were extremely capable and practical. My grandfather went off to southern pacific in WW2, kicked ass and came home and build a house with his bare hands and started the family farm.

Grandma is now raising her great-great grandkids, because most of my family can't take care of their own, and she never complains.

I'm proud of them, and my Appalachian heritage. I think if everyone had to suffer a bit more poverty, and a lot more consequences of apathy, it would do everyone a world of good.

What a great and thoughtful post. I'm sorry I didn't see it yesterday, and now I will close this thread. And probably take a nap.

But really, nice thought.

This is news to me that he was still alive.

I had an ongoing sexual relationship with my 2nd cousin-in-law and her sister when they were 13 and 12 I right up until they were 20 and 21, but I was 14 when it started and I didn't marry them. I had sex with them the last time the day of their joint wedding in fact we were almost late for the wedding.

Profedius: I had an ongoing sexual relationship with my 2nd cousin-in-law and her sister when they were 13 and 12 I right up until they were 20 and 21, but I was 14 when it started and I didn't marry them. I had sex with them the last time the day of their joint wedding in fact we were almost late for the wedding.

Thank you for sharing, Cletus.

Profedius: I had an ongoing sexual relationship with my 2nd cousin-in-law and her sister when they were 13 and 12 I right up until they were 20 and 21, but I was 14 when it started and I didn't marry them. I had sex with them the last time the day of their joint wedding in fact we were almost late for the wedding.

2nd cousin in law? Weren't you afraid that she'd get pregnant and have perfectly normal kids?

wildcardjack: shiat, he's still alive?

No way in 1975 would I take a bet that Jerry Lee Lewis and George Jones would still be alive in 2012.

TsarTom: Mugato: Now, the eternally punk-rock 76-year-old piano man

Wait, what -rock?

Well, they kept calling Neil Young was the godfather of grunge, I guess I can go along with Jerry Lee being the godfather of punk.

Though Hasil Adkins might be the better choice.


Thanks for this! I've been checking out his stuff all day.