ima turkey: bobbette: ima turkey: Twin 40s: theflatline: she looks like the tranny street walkers you see throughout latin america.

Way to be genial and understanding to one of the most hated and ostracized groups of people in America.

Trannys aren't people. They're freaks of nature.

Bigots aren't people. They're worthless pieces of sh*t. And the worst part of it is, unlike a trans person, they chose to be what they are.

Trannys absolutely choose to be the freaks that they are. Please.

2/10. If you're going to troll, at least do it in intelligent ways and not just "I'm going to slam your opinion". The two points is because despite the halfassed attempt it's working to incite anger anyway.

ima turkey: I wonder if HE would get mad if I called HIM a dude. Because HE is a DUDE.

Dude, you're not contributing anything useful to this thread. You're just poking the beehive and you look rather stupid.

Carth: FarkinHostile:

I'm surprised I haven't been called a Troll yet.

You're not a troll. Just a bigot like the people in the 60s who wanted light skinned black people to be registered so they wouldn't be confused and treated as white. It must be really hard for you to be cissexual I'm sure you've suffered for it.

Maybe FarkinHostile is a fashion queen -- it really isn't fashionable to hate on black people for their genes anymore. Trans- hate is now all the rage.

each contestant must be a "naturally born female."

WHAR THE LONG FORM PAP SMEAR. WHAR

RoyBatty: Theaetetus: RoyBatty: Theaetetus: RoyBatty, Professional Concern Troll.

Later on, as in other threads, you'll accuse me of stalking you.

If you actually have a problem with what I said, why not address that, Counselor, instead of just going ad hominem from your very Boobies. Is this typical of how you mistreat your clients?

Roy, if you don't want to be accused of stalking, you should probably stop threadjacking so that you can discuss people's jobs.

Poor Theaetetus, you're such a victim.

You attack me with ad hominem from your very Boobies,> showing what ignorance you have towards argument and your disrespect to your own profession as attorney, and when I point out the irony and logical conflict of an attorney resorting in his first argument to a logical fallacy and projecting that onto his likely inability to function competently as an attorney, you get all upset and as I said before, claim victimhood.

Your arguments at FARK are almost always lousy, full of ad hominem, full of judgments you have no ability to make, and terribly full of bias. Almost always illogical.

You are putz.

Now counselor, if you actually have a problem with what I wrote, feel free to attack that, otherwise why don't you go back to overbilling your clients and underperforming for them?

unfortunate filterowned

bobbette: RoyBatty: For every hating on FarkinHostile for what you believe to be his bigotry, in a thread, have you considered taking active opposition to somewhere in meatspace where it might actually do some good?

I am of course referring to the Michigan Womyn's festival which in 2012, according to the wiki, is still not allowing transsexuals or the transgendered in?

I have, do, and will continue to do so! Also, fark Mich Fest. It's going to collapse under its own irrelevance and rightly so. I would never go to a restaurant that advertises itself as "whites only" and I won't go to any kind of establishment or event that keeps out trans people.

ununcle: bobbette: Bigots aren't people. They're worthless pieces of sh*t. And the worst part of it is, unlike a trans person, they chose to be what they are.

You sound like a hater, intolerant of other peoples views on the subject.

You are correct, I do not tolerate bigotry. Tolerating intolerance makes for a less tolerant society overall, which Karl Popper called the "paradox of tolerance":

Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

I love you, bobbette.

/don't tell my SO

Harridan: I accept the fact that I'm not the most attractive woman in the world. But it really galls me when trannies try to "out-girly" the actual girls.

Yeah I know - I sound fat. Bite me.

Seconded. You, miss, have a valid point.

/squealing with joy is cuter from someone without testicles

In this case, it sounds a bit more like that the issue was application.

I think that we're nearing the point where transgendered folks can compete in events like this. Maybe not for transgendered folks to compete in sporting events with segregated events, but for essentially contests about how good they look, drive on.

I don't care.

If someone says that they want to be called a girl, I was raised up to be polite and do so. If the "girl" is 300lbs of fuzzy bear who wants to be pretty, or a delicate flower who takes a lot of time with her makeup and hair, so be it. Knowing that they were born male doesn't change what they've asked of me, which is to be accepted in a gender role that they are taking on. Same with someone taking testosterone and dressing butch. That's their choice.

Does that make them more of a girl or man? Not so much, but gender roles are put on, and accepted. Be that girls who are a little bit tomboys, be that girly men, be that mixes and matches. I know some queens who you get them into a biker bar, they get aggressive and butch fast. Gender roles change. They shift, and I don't really care, so long as folks are happy and safe.

Ultimately, yeah, it's best to be honest with your relationships and with your partners. I'm not a fan of transgendered folks who want to "pass" as female or male without questions--because it's not safe for them, their partners, and it's not a great way to build on relationships, based on deception--be those relationships friendships or with lovers.

The panoply of human sexuality is wide and varied. Last summer I spent up in the mountains in Colorado, and we had our very gay Sioux boy, who loved his cowboys and trotting little Filipino men home, and he was girly as all get out, but Chaske never once tried to pass himself off as anything other than a very gay, very girly Indian. He found partners who adored him. He was loud, kind of annoying at times, confrontational, thoughtful, sweet at times, biatchy at times, brutally honest, and not an easy friend to have because of all that, but not because he was gay, or because he occasionally liked to dress pretty. I know women who like to dress male, take hormones, and love women. I know a few who do the same, and really like guys. The one thing to bet on in human sexuality, is that variation is the only rule.

But I think it's healthiest to be honest. Honest if you can only get off with someone in a horsey costume and being whipped, or if you've never had an orgasm from intercourse. Find folks who fit. Be honest about it.

Our girl from the article is pretty. Be nice if she could compete, but in the end, you have to be honest with who you are, not just the role that you want to take on. Folks get pretty quick that you want to be seen as a girl, and will treat you as such, but the "real" question is maybe not appropriate, as much as acceptance for being you--and there's nothing wrong with being born a dude who wants to be a girl for whatever reason.

While she might be atrractive, and have two servicable holes for me to poke, I still prefer women with naturally self lubricating vaginas.

yes... yes, I would.

many times.