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(Minnesota Public Radio)   AccuWeather last fall: Winter is gonna be so bad you are gonna want to move. AccuWeather this spring: yeah about that, we're going with tsunami debris   (minnesota.publicradio.org) divider line 57
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2012-03-24 09:12:23 AM
My car therm read 88 yesterday after work. In pittsburgh. In march.

Endtimes?

\dnrtfa
 
2012-03-24 09:15:44 AM
Boy! I sure could use some of that global warming right now. **chuckle, chuckle**
 
2012-03-24 09:18:56 AM
Accuweather hasn't been accu for a long time and now they're losing their grip on the weather part too.

A lot of people were caught off guard by this winter. There just hasn't been a pattern shift and most of North America has been stuck under a very strong ridge. You see the consequences in places like Alaska where they generally get the "opposite" of E ConUS. In general most of the world has had below average temperature anomalies except the United States. Plus the early spring heat wave is exacerbated by a total lack of a snowpack over almost the entire Con United States.
 
2012-03-24 09:19:37 AM
Wasn't AccuWeather the company that bribed Santorum to sponsor legislation that would take the NOAA website offline?

Yes. Yes it was. Link
 
2012-03-24 09:31:02 AM
What I do know is that the insect hordes are already daunting.
 
2012-03-24 09:34:44 AM
Accuweather's long-term forecasts are always a joke. They are either so generic as to be pointless (a humid summer in the southeast? You don't say...) or are over the top gloom and doom.
 
2012-03-24 09:36:04 AM
I've had to cut the grass already. All the buds are out and leaves on the bushes, it's going to suck come Monday when it's 42 degrees then by Wednesday it's back up to 64.
 
2012-03-24 09:39:14 AM
I live in southeastern MA and I gotta say that it's a bit odd to have the warm weather we're having and not have any leaves on the trees.
 
2012-03-24 09:39:14 AM

UrinalPooper: Wasn't AccuWeather the company that bribed Santorum to sponsor legislation that would take the NOAA website offline?

Yes. Yes it was. Link


This
 
2012-03-24 09:39:37 AM
El Nino is responsible for bizarre weather.

/or is that old theory? and untaxable?
 
2012-03-24 09:41:52 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-03-24 09:41:56 AM
Environment Canada totally missed this as well. The funny part is every season the media gets Environment Canada's forecast map, that looks something like this first map
www.weatheroffice.gc.ca
and they induce panic about warm/cool. But they never bother to look at the second map that shows in most of the country their prediction isn't any better than pulling a rabbit out of their ass and asking it if it is going to be a cod winter. Some years I've seen this entire second map in gray, and the media still claims its going to be a warm winter.

Science. Its handy, but you have to look at the details.
 
2012-03-24 09:42:49 AM
Gah! Cold, not cod. though they might call for a cod winter too. I don't want to be around for that one.
 
2012-03-24 09:43:10 AM
Joe Bastardi, accuweather's senior long term weather forecaster, is one of the leading global warming deniers.

Since he has posted so much major fail in his predictions for the last few years, I would think that would add some skepticism about his claims on global warming being a hoax.
 
2012-03-24 09:47:23 AM
Anyone know if there was enough precipitation this winter to keep the whole country from going up in flames this summer? That's the more important Q.
 
2012-03-24 09:50:08 AM
Well, the radiation from Fukishima raised global temps at least 5 degrees.
 
2012-03-24 09:55:14 AM

lawboy87: Joe Bastardi, accuweather's senior long term weather forecaster, is one of the leading global warming deniers.

Since he has posted so much major fail in his predictions for the last few years, I would think that would add some skepticism about his claims on global warming being a hoax.


'Nuff said right there. Not a scientist.
 
2012-03-24 09:55:21 AM

Rich Cream: El Nino is responsible for bizarre weather.

/or is that old theory? and untaxable?


I thought it was Bush or Obama (depends on whom you like VS. whom you dislike)
 
2012-03-24 10:02:26 AM
You know, unprecendented warmth is one thing. But usually you break record highs by a degree or two.

This year, we (and most of the eastern two-thirds of the nation, minus the far northeast) has not only broken records... we've smashed, obliterated, and maimed some records.

Minnesota and North dakota, especially, were a full 40 degrees above normal and in some cases they broke their record highs with the daily LOW and then proceeded to warm up 20 more degrees.

That's almost as crazy as Caribou Maine breaking their record highs in 2010 on April 1st by a full 25-30 degrees or so. It was nuts.
 
2012-03-24 10:04:37 AM
High Taxes caused the mild winter.
Or early spring.
Whatever gets you people to vote republican.
 
2012-03-24 10:14:25 AM
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Release...the global warming graphs..
 
2012-03-24 10:24:30 AM

UrinalPooper: Wasn't AccuWeather the company that bribed Santorum to sponsor legislation that would take the NOAA website offline?

Yes. Yes it was. Link


Hoo boy. As though we needed more evidence that Santorum is a complete dolt.

/NOAA has one of the most useful government websites out there.
//Weather.gov ftw.
 
2012-03-24 10:26:04 AM
Overzealous staffer, etc
 
2012-03-24 10:30:07 AM
AccuWeather is a for-profit agency financed by right wing billionaires. Some years ago when the gop was in power, they tried to shut down the National Weather Service and privatize forecasting (guess which corporation they wanted to be their "Haliburton of weather"?).
 
2012-03-24 10:32:35 AM

lawboy87: Joe Bastardi, accuweather's senior long term weather forecaster, is one of the leading global warming deniers.

Since he has posted so much major fail in his predictions for the last few years, I would think that would add some skepticism about his claims on global warming being a hoax.


I always think "Joe the Bastard" whenever I hear him pulling another Fail prediction out of his hinney.
 
2012-03-24 10:58:01 AM

TV's Vinnie: AccuWeather is a for-profit agency financed by right wing billionaires. Some years ago when the gop was in power, they tried to shut down the National Weather Service and privatize forecasting (guess which corporation they wanted to be their "Haliburton of weather"?).


What? You have evidence of a scam by republican business owners? No Way!

Say it isn't so!
 
2012-03-24 11:05:03 AM

UrinalPooper: Wasn't AccuWeather the company that bribed Santorum to sponsor legislation that would take the NOAA website offline?

Yes. Yes it was. Link


Yet they still need NOAA to supply them with the data they repackage with goofier looking graphics to pass off as their own. So conservatards can pay taxes for NOAA to produce forecast information, then pay a private company to disseminate that same information and feel like they must be getting the best deal because it's the "free market".
 
2012-03-24 11:11:54 AM
being a weatherman is the only job in the world where you can be wrong 100% of the time and still keep your job.
 
2012-03-24 11:20:17 AM
The_Fuzz

Environment Canada totally missed this as well.

Their forecasts are completely f*cking useless. They have called at least 6 winter storm warnings this year that were non events yet have missed 10 or so serious storms. You are better to do your own forecasting using CRWS (new window) and WSU (new window).
If you look at the jet stream maps you will understand the unseasonably warm temps in the midwest-prairies-east.
 
2012-03-24 11:34:52 AM
And here in Seattle its been freaking cold and then warm, then cold again. Snowed last week.

/ yes I know if you say "its cold" when other places it is warm you get a lecture about climate vs weather
// somehow the reverse isn't true
 
2012-03-24 11:35:44 AM
I work right down the road from the AccuWeather headquarters. Their HQ is in State College, PA, and yet they consistently fail to predict the weather accurately for State College.

I mean, you'd think you'd be able to at least get the weather right in the area that you operate in. But no... if they say "6" of snow" we're guaranteed to get nothing. However if they say "A few flurries" then odds are we'll get a foot.
 
2012-03-24 11:38:53 AM

lexnaturalis: I work right down the road from the AccuWeather headquarters. Their HQ is in State College, PA, and yet they consistently fail to predict the weather accurately for State College.

I mean, you'd think you'd be able to at least get the weather right in the area that you operate in. But no... if they say "6" of snow" we're guaranteed to get nothing. However if they say "A few flurries" then odds are we'll get a foot.


Same thing happened in Texas a few winters ago. They predicted 'a few inches' of snow. That 'few inches' was as much as a foot and a half, in some places.
 
2012-03-24 11:39:44 AM
A year without winter...wasn't this part of the plot of the 53rd Wheel of Time book?
 
2012-03-24 11:41:39 AM
Joe Bastardi is a jackass and AccuWeather sucks.

That is all.
 
2012-03-24 11:54:13 AM
AccuWeather 2 days ago for today here: 84 degrees sunny with 30% chance of afternoon thunderstorms.

It's been misting rain all morning no sun and temp is 67 degrees at noon.

Sometimes AccuWeather gets the current weather wrong for here.
 
2012-03-24 12:08:30 PM

enderthexenocide: being a weatherman is the only job in the world where you can be wrong 100% of the time and still keep your job.


I think this also applies to the talking heads on cable news channels.
 
2012-03-24 12:10:06 PM
I work for a well respected climate services institute so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

I'm a tech guy, not a scientist but this is what they told me. Any errors are due to my stupidity and misunderstanding.

El Niño and La Nina really don't influence the US east coast. The warm weather this winter was due to the North Atlantic Oscillation. It went clockwise this year bringing the warm air from the south, while dumping the cold Artic air on Europe.

And the sum of all the predictions were inconclusive. Like one third of the models were predicting each possible outcome.
 
2012-03-24 12:21:07 PM
Sounds like a news blurb from sim city 3000.
 
2012-03-24 12:22:04 PM

belhade: A year without winter...wasn't this part of the plot of the 53rd Wheel of Time book?


Ask Europe and Japan if there was a winter this year:

i42.tinypic.com

i40.tinypic.com
 
2012-03-24 12:22:57 PM

UrinalPooper: Wasn't AccuWeather the company that bribed Santorum to sponsor legislation that would take the NOAA website offline?

Yes. Yes it was. Link


Full-on rage. This is a big part of how the legislative process is broken.

jake3988: You know, unprecendented warmth is one thing. But usually you break record highs by a degree or two.

This year, we (and most of the eastern two-thirds of the nation, minus the far northeast) has not only broken records... we've smashed, obliterated, and maimed some records.

Minnesota and North dakota, especially, were a full 40 degrees above normal and in some cases they broke their record highs with the daily LOW and then proceeded to warm up 20 more degrees.

That's almost as crazy as Caribou Maine breaking their record highs in 2010 on April 1st by a full 25-30 degrees or so. It was nuts.


Yeah, you're not kidding. We've only had 13 days this "winter" that went below zero Fahrenheit. That's compared to 55 on average - and most of them were -1/-2, only one real cold snap in mid-January that went down to seventeen below for two days. March has been a joke - this is May weather. The grass is greening up and give it another week and the trees will bloom, which could completely suck because it can still freeze right on through May.

i813.photobucket.com

On the bright side? Fewer mosquitoes this summer.
 
2012-03-24 12:44:10 PM

Derigiberble: Accuweather's long-term forecasts are always a joke. They are either so generic as to be pointless (a humid summer in the southeast? You don't say...) or are over the top gloom and doom.


Here:
bdnpull.bangorpublishing.netdna-cdn.com

80% accurate in the long term!
 
2012-03-24 12:50:45 PM
Oh, Henry Margusity. You never fail to offer up the lulz.
Not to sound like a dolt myself, but I am now curious as to whether or not said tsunami debris hypothesis can be tested. It may make a minor difference, but I'd eat my hat if it was the cause of the warm winter.

/Large-scale patterns, how do they work?
//On time scales beyond 1-2 weeks, scientists are still not certain... although they seem to be coming up with a few good ideas
///Tsunami debris is not one of them
 
2012-03-24 12:51:49 PM

phamwaa: Here:
[bdnpull.bangorpublishing.netdna-cdn.com image 600x780]

80% accurate in the long term!


More like 50%.

/so is a coin flip, astrology, casting-of-bones, etc
 
2012-03-24 12:53:49 PM

UrinalPooper: Wasn't AccuWeather the company that bribed Santorum to sponsor legislation that would take the NOAA website offline?

Yes. Yes it was. Link


^^^


Why the fark does ANYONE go anywhere other than The National Weather Service (new window)?
 
2012-03-24 01:14:47 PM
media.tumblr.com

Damn you, Ollie.
 
2012-03-24 01:19:18 PM
Does anyone know how other weather services, like Weather Channel, Weather Underground, etc, did on their forecasts?

I wonder because IIRC, they all get their data from the same sources, (NOAA primarily), so the forecasts tend to be similar. If any are very different that would be surprising.
 
2012-03-24 01:22:55 PM
Yet another example of why Accuweather needs to be privatized
 
2012-03-24 01:52:40 PM
And what else would you expect from the best prognostication money can buy.

/yes, it is crap, not science
 
2012-03-24 02:01:11 PM
There has long been a market for predictions of the future.
There are no end of suppliers of predictions of the future.
But, there is nowhere you can actually get what you pay for.

Never has been, never will be, but a good con is forevermore.
 
2012-03-24 02:22:27 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: phamwaa: Here:
[bdnpull.bangorpublishing.netdna-cdn.com image 600x780]

80% accurate in the long term!

More like 50%.

/so is a coin flip, astrology, casting-of-bones, etc


So, in the front article of this edition, when they claim 81% accuracy, they lie? Horrors.
 
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