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(RealClearPolitics)   If Obama and the Democratic Party will not use their power to close the inequality gap right here in their own playpen, how do they remain credible in Middle America?   (realclearpolitics.com) divider line 111
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2012-03-23 11:16:28 AM  
Pat Buchanan

*clicks close button*
 
2012-03-23 11:18:25 AM  
Why should it be their responsibility?
 
2012-03-23 11:32:05 AM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Pat Buchanan

*clicks close button*


I actually gave it a try, but then reached "Obama, former disciple of radicalist Saul Alinsky"

*clicks close button*
 
2012-03-23 11:33:48 AM  

mahuika: I actually gave it a try, but then reached "Obama, former disciple of radicalist Saul Alinsky"


Yep.
 
2012-03-23 11:35:33 AM  
Really, folks, the President is not a dictator. He can't fix this kind of shiat. Don't blame this on him and don't expect him to change it.
 
2012-03-23 11:37:04 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: mahuika: I actually gave it a try, but then reached "Obama, former disciple of radicalist Saul Alinsky"

Yep.


Same here.
 
2012-03-23 11:48:23 AM  
So...Obama should pressure the mayor and city council of Washington DC to close the wealth gap between DC's very rich and poor.

Yes, what we need right now is a micro-managing President.
 
2012-03-23 11:48:52 AM  

eraser8: Dusk-You-n-Me: mahuika: I actually gave it a try, but then reached "Obama, former disciple of radicalist Saul Alinsky"

Yep.

Same here.


It's a trend.
 
2012-03-23 11:49:04 AM  
Here we have the perfect test case -- the most liberal city in the republic, with the greatest income inequality, where Obama's political clout and personal popularity are highest. And there is no obstructionist Republican cabal to block progressive reforms

Except that thing called Congress.
 
2012-03-23 11:51:38 AM  
Ok, let's propose something. How about a magic bill appears that really can fix everything. The GOP House wouldn't pass it, and the Republicans in Congress would filibuster it.

But how about we let the nearest fix through? Pass the budget proposed by the Progressive Caucus. Plus it will reduce the deficit, so Republicans should love it.
 
2012-03-23 12:17:26 PM  
Um...what does Washington, DC produce?

Legislation. Hence the huge influx of lawyers, lobbyists, and the folks who feed upon them and the Congresscritters who dine upon their largesse as well.

At some point, I think there was a point in this tortured piece of drek, but blaming Obama for the state of DC is sort of like blaming him for the state of Atlanta, Miami, or even Honolulu's politics. Him. Directly. Because he's President now, he's responsible for everything that has shaped those cities in the past 100 years.

Worse. There are going to be idiots who are going to take this tortured logic and run with it, and proclaim it to be Mana from the Heavens and not even look any deeper than the bits that they can repeat ad naseum...
 
2012-03-23 12:34:45 PM  

hubiestubert: Um...what does Washington, DC produce?

Legislation. Hence the huge influx of lawyers, lobbyists, and the folks who feed upon them and the Congresscritters who dine upon their largesse as well.

At some point, I think there was a point in this tortured piece of drek, but blaming Obama for the state of DC is sort of like blaming him for the state of Atlanta, Miami, or even Honolulu's politics. Him. Directly. Because he's President now, he's responsible for everything that has shaped those cities in the past 100 years.

Worse. There are going to be idiots who are going to take this tortured logic and run with it, and proclaim it to be Mana from the Heavens and not even look any deeper than the bits that they can repeat ad naseum...


Pat Buchanan's solution to our tax problem is for rich liberals that complain taxes are too low to voluntarily pay more taxes. So this really is nothing new.
 
2012-03-23 12:51:27 PM  
Knew better than to even open the article. But my first thought was if the Dems were not credible to the middle class, how the f! could the Republicans possibly think they were?
 
2012-03-23 01:09:28 PM  
Wait...Obama is supposed to fix income inequality??

How? I guess he could take taxes from each according to his ability, to give that to each according to his need.

I'm sure that would be cool.
 
2012-03-23 01:16:38 PM  
I would love to drive Pat Buchanan to Anacostia, drop him off on Minnesota Ave SE with a big sign that says "Obama is a [N word]" around his neck.

But, in one sense he is right, there is a a lot in income inequality, poverty and racism in DC. and, DC has been largely run by Democrats LOCALLY.

But its laughable to think that Obama could or should try to reverse 50 years or racism and poverty in 3 years. Patty Patty Buch Buch knows that, he's just being an asshole.
 
2012-03-23 01:29:23 PM  
This is sort of like the outrunning the bear thing. It isn't so much that the Dems are credible as it is how much more credible they are than the GOP.
 
2012-03-23 01:37:44 PM  

vernonFL: I would love to drive Pat Buchanan to Anacostia, drop him off on Minnesota Ave SE with a big sign that says "Obama is a [N word]" around his neck.

But, in one sense he is right,



Should I not have quoted you like that? Was that wrong?
 
2012-03-23 01:41:48 PM  
It's just that easy to be more credible than Republicans these days.
 
2012-03-23 01:42:29 PM  
 
2012-03-23 01:42:55 PM  
www.ninebullets.net

RIP HOOTIE
 
2012-03-23 01:43:35 PM  
damnit wrong thread sorry.
 
2012-03-23 01:45:03 PM  

vernonFL: damnit wrong thread sorry.


He said the burger-selling cowboy is near!
 
2012-03-23 01:45:21 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)


Even a cursory inspection of the graphs in that article show you're full of shiat.
 
2012-03-23 01:46:46 PM  

TwoHead: This is sort of like the outrunning the bear thing. It isn't so much that the Dems are credible as it is how much more credible they are than the GOP.


9.5/10. That should get some nibbles from both the herpaderp brigade (really, they're at least two battalions short, but let's humor them) and those who have more than a pair of brain cells to rub together. Bravo.
 
2012-03-23 01:47:00 PM  
Keep reading the enumerated powers... Don't see wealth redistribution anywhere. Is there a footnote somewhere declaring Marx and his ideas as granting powers to the Federal government?

In before taxation clause used to mean general welfare. But after I laugh at you and tell you to read a madisonian smack down from federalist 41.
 
2012-03-23 01:47:21 PM  

Wendy's Chili: Here we have the perfect test case -- the most liberal city in the republic, with the greatest income inequality, where Obama's political clout and personal popularity are highest.


o.O He's talking about DC, now?

I think Berkley or Cambridge or Portland or Austin might be a better fit for this description.
 
2012-03-23 01:48:40 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)


The Tax Foundation is a joke.

voices.washingtonpost.com
 
2012-03-23 01:50:41 PM  

hubiestubert: Him. Directly. Because he's President now, he's responsible for everything that has shaped those cities in the past 100 years.


It's called the Party of Personal Responsibility. As in, Obama's personally responsible.
 
2012-03-23 01:52:39 PM  

DarwiOdrade: tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)

Even a cursory inspection of the graphs in that article show you're full of shiat.


oh really?
 
2012-03-23 01:53:24 PM  
There are 242 Republicans and 193 Democrats.

Can you say "filibuster"? Because the GOP can and has...
 
2012-03-23 01:54:21 PM  
So Pats in favor of bringing back the guillotines?
 
2012-03-23 01:55:14 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: DarwiOdrade: tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)

Even a cursory inspection of the graphs in that article show you're full of shiat.

oh really?


Yes, really.
 
2012-03-23 01:57:47 PM  
WTF am I reading?

Is this like one of those "OBAMA WHY CAN'T YOU FIX THE GAS PRICES WITH YOUR OVERLY BIG GOVERNMENT?!" mindsets?
 
2012-03-23 01:58:09 PM  

DarwiOdrade: tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)

Even a cursory inspection of the graphs in that article show you're full of shiat.


Hell, you didn't even need to look at the graphs. There is nothing he has ever said on this site that WASN'T complete and utter shiat.
 
2012-03-23 01:58:48 PM  

pwhp_67: There are 242 Republicans and 193 Democrats.

Can you say "filibuster"? Because the GOP can and has...


i1.kym-cdn.com

Filibusters don't work that way!

(Filibusters are in the Senate, not the House. Plus, the GOP has a majority in the House (as you pointed out), which means that a filibuster isn't needed to for them to block legislation anyways.)
 
2012-03-23 01:59:34 PM  

tnpir: DarwiOdrade: tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)

Even a cursory inspection of the graphs in that article show you're full of shiat.

Hell, you didn't even need to look at the graphs. There is nothing he has ever said on this site that WASN'T complete and utter shiat.


Yes, I know. I see his posts in piss-pants yellow and farkied as "derp"
 
2012-03-23 02:00:48 PM  

tnpir: DarwiOdrade: tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)

Even a cursory inspection of the graphs in that article show you're full of shiat.

Hell, you didn't even need to look at the graphs. There is nothing he has ever said on this site that WASN'T complete and utter shiat.


Another close minded farker.

oh no, real data. too afraid to look, right? (new window)
 
2012-03-23 02:02:50 PM  

DarwiOdrade: tnpir: DarwiOdrade: tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)

Even a cursory inspection of the graphs in that article show you're full of shiat.

Hell, you didn't even need to look at the graphs. There is nothing he has ever said on this site that WASN'T complete and utter shiat.

Yes, I know. I see his posts in piss-pants yellow and farkied as "derp"


Amen.
/Baby-poop mustard yellow and (favorite: Immune to facts - and proud of it.).
 
2012-03-23 02:04:14 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: tnpir: DarwiOdrade: tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)

Even a cursory inspection of the graphs in that article show you're full of shiat.

Hell, you didn't even need to look at the graphs. There is nothing he has ever said on this site that WASN'T complete and utter shiat.

Another close minded farker.

oh no, real data. too afraid to look, right? (new window)


Ms Summerwind may call it an "online newspaper" but it's just her blog, and it sucks.
 
2012-03-23 02:07:27 PM  

Geotpf: pwhp_67: There are 242 Republicans and 193 Democrats.

Can you say "filibuster"? Because the GOP can and has...

[i1.kym-cdn.com image 320x240]

Filibusters don't work that way!

(Filibusters are in the Senate, not the House. Plus, the GOP has a majority in the House (as you pointed out), which means that a filibuster isn't needed to for them to block legislation anyways.)



Thanks. I meant to mention both but my phone rang and I farked it all up...

/stoopid work
 
2012-03-23 02:07:28 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: DarwiOdrade: tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)

Even a cursory inspection of the graphs in that article show you're full of shiat.

oh really?


Oh, look it's tenpoundsoffail

When you quote an article that criticizes people for using dates on a graph that distorts conclusions that can be drawn from that graph, and then that very same article turns around and does the same thing (by only using the years 1986-2009 because "those are the dates that it started to increase") you lose all credibility.

Especially if you do it twice.


Congratulations on your fail.
 
2012-03-23 02:15:38 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
RADICALISTS
 
2012-03-23 02:16:06 PM  

mahuika: "Obama, former disciple of radicalist Saul Alinsky"


I just googled Alinsky to check, and it looks like he died in 1972. That means Obama's been a radical socialist since before he was 11 years old.
 
2012-03-23 02:17:40 PM  
What power?

The Republicans control the House, were all bills affecting revenue (which closing the income gap must address) must originate.
 
2012-03-23 02:23:10 PM  
Republicans: Purveyors of Small Government!
 
2012-03-23 02:27:11 PM  
Pat Buchanan has written numerous works minimizing Hitler's atrocities, blaming WWII on Britain, and describing majority-minority cities as "third world" on the basis that they have people who aren't white.

He's a farking neo-nazi. His opinion is irrelevant.
 
2012-03-23 02:27:37 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: DarwiOdrade: tenpoundsofcheese: The dems have driven the income inequality and then they turn around and blame others (new window)

Even a cursory inspection of the graphs in that article show you're full of shiat.

oh really?


Ok, I'm going to explain it realll slow like. Income inequality generally goes down during a recession, and seems to go up in good times (though it doesn't have to).
During the .com boom of Clinton's era it went up at a constant rate, it crashed in the .com bust of 2000. During Bush it shot way up, but crashes a bit earlier than the election (2007). Clearly from the Gini graph in your link Bush had the fastest growth in inequality, it just got cleared out by the recession. Yay.. or something.
 
2012-03-23 02:29:01 PM  

MindStalker: Ok, I'm going to explain it realll slow like. Income inequality generally goes down during a recession, and seems to go up in good times (though it doesn't have to).
During the .com boom of Clinton's era it went up at a constant rate, it crashed in the .com bust of 2000. During Bush it shot way up, but crashes a bit earlier than the election (2007). Clearly from the Gini graph in your link Bush had the fastest growth in inequality, it just got cleared out by the recession. Yay.. or something.



you forgot to tell us who to vote for.
 
2012-03-23 02:29:02 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-03-23 02:29:44 PM  
I thought that the issue was that Republicans wanted to lower taxes on the wealthy,not that wealthy people tend to live near other wealthy people.
 
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