If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Huffington Post)   The GOP promises to investigate the scandal behind Solyndra and won't stop until they have answers for the ripped-off American people. Or until election day. Whichever comes first   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 43
    More: Obvious, GOP, solyndra, election days  
•       •       •

563 clicks; posted to Politics » on 22 Mar 2012 at 1:55 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



43 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread
 
2012-03-22 12:35:43 PM
We weren't ripped off. The DOE allocated $2.47 billion in credit subsidies to act as insurance to cover project losses.
 
2012-03-22 12:57:50 PM
I thought subby was kidding:

"Ultimately, we'll stop it on Election Day, hopefully. And bringing attention to these things helps the voters and citizens of the country make the kind of decision that I hope helps them as they evaluate who they are going to vote for in November."

He *actually* said he will stop investigating what he considers to be a horrible crime for political reasons.

Amazing
 
2012-03-22 01:46:17 PM
Yes, they will dig and dig and dig, seeking the truth!... until they start to uncover the Bush Administration.

Then they will rapidly start throwing dirt back in the hole.
 
2012-03-22 01:58:26 PM
Nobody outside of right wing partisans cares. And they don't even care, they farking supported it until the president was near.
 
2012-03-22 01:58:44 PM
In other words...


We got nothing.
 
2012-03-22 02:02:32 PM
Sometimes investments don't pay off, it's this thing that happens in reality.
 
2012-03-22 02:05:40 PM
I drive by the Solyndra plant every day. A few days ago they hung up a "for sale" banner on the main building, facing the I880 freeway.

A month or two ago on the sign of the first lab building -- the one where Obama spoke -- someone spray painted W over the sign.

The buildings are beautiful. They spent a lot of money on them and it shows.

These facts are about as relevant as this investigation.
 
2012-03-22 02:06:24 PM
I've been calling Solyndra a worthless technology since I first saw their FRAGILE GLASS TUBES ON ROOFTOPS scheme circa 2006.
 
2012-03-22 02:07:09 PM
Solyndra, was that the thing where pallets of government cash worth hundreds of millions disappeared? And nobody has any idea where the cash went? There one day, and the next, it was gone? Zero accountability to this day? Just "one of those things", ha ha ha?
 
2012-03-22 02:08:37 PM
What scandal?

The DOE gives BILLIONS in loan grantees mostly to NUCLEAR ENERGY (I believe under Obama it's been around 35 BILLION to Nuclear).

These things don't work out. Maybe it was bad judgment of the DOE to loan this company money, but that is bad judgement not a "scandal".

I am more concerned with the billions of guarantee loans we are giving to build nuclear plants when people from the nuclear industry said to congress 1 out of 2 new nuclear plants fail to be built from cost over runs.
 
2012-03-22 02:08:44 PM

what_now: I thought subby was kidding:

"Ultimately, we'll stop it on Election Day, hopefully. And bringing attention to these things helps the voters and citizens of the country make the kind of decision that I hope helps them as they evaluate who they are going to vote for in November."

He *actually* said he will stop investigating what he considers to be a horrible crime for political reasons.

Amazing


It's only for political points then. Not fighting for what's right and demanding answers. Shows how much they really care.
 
2012-03-22 02:09:54 PM

Kibbler: Solyndra, was that the thing where pallets of government cash worth hundreds of millions disappeared? And nobody has any idea where the cash went? There one day, and the next, it was gone? Zero accountability to this day? Just "one of those things", ha ha ha?


No the pallets of cash disappeared in Iraq. With Solydra there was a loan issued, it was spent on a technology that was then undercut by the Chinese and they went out of business without ever paying it back.
 
2012-03-22 02:10:04 PM

Kibbler: Solyndra, was that the thing where pallets of government cash worth hundreds of millions disappeared? And nobody has any idea where the cash went? There one day, and the next, it was gone? Zero accountability to this day? Just "one of those things", ha ha ha?


I think you are thinking about the Iraq war under Bush and that was BILLIONS disappearing.
 
2012-03-22 02:11:51 PM
Bad business decision? Yes. Scandal? Ehhhh not really. Fairly standard cronyism as government contracts go.
 
2012-03-22 02:14:56 PM
If you are against this then lets have government stop ALL of these type of loans, but that's not what they want.

Republicans would NEVER vote for that because they actually help the Nuclear industry more. They are trying to pretend that solar is being giving this huge advantage when in context that is complete bullshiat.

Questions not actual being answered:
What is the normal failure rate of this loan guarantees? How much is usually lost?
How much is it out of all the loan guarantees given? How much do they expect to lose?
What other industries get this guarantees and how much?

This are important question those on the right don't actually want to answer. They are once again trying to make a "scandal" of something that isn't.
 
2012-03-22 02:15:21 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Nobody outside of right wing partisans cares. And they don't even care, they farking supported it until the president was near.


I keep seeing the president is near thing and don't know what it is.. Someone asked in a different thread and got called a troll, but nonetheless, what is it?

/seriously not a troll, don't hurt me :(
 
2012-03-22 02:15:38 PM

Kibbler: Solyndra, was that the thing where pallets of government cash worth hundreds of millions disappeared? And nobody has any idea where the cash went? There one day, and the next, it was gone? Zero accountability to this day? Just "one of those things", ha ha ha?


You must have been really pissed at Halliburton, its subsidiaries, and its former CEO-turned-US-Vice-President when that happened on a scale several orders of magnitude larger back in the '00s, weren't you??
 
2012-03-22 02:18:53 PM

wildcardjack: I've been calling Solyndra a worthless technology since I first saw their FRAGILE GLASS TUBES ON ROOFTOPS scheme circa 2006.


At the time they ceased operations they had many open orders to fill. They had a following of loyal repeat customers, but not enough to sustain the company to the size they built it.

The most frequently cited reason for the preference of Solyndra's product is their ability to stand up to storm conditions that the flat-panels could not.

At their close-out auction I tried to buy a few boxes of them, but it turns out my bid was way low.
 
2012-03-22 02:20:18 PM
Yawn.
 
2012-03-22 02:21:08 PM
A bad investment that didn't stand a chance against the Chinese subsidies.

Of course, no Republican has ever lost a dime on an investment. They're all winners! Best part forever!
 
2012-03-22 02:22:54 PM
Looking forward to these folks applying similar energy to investigating the trillions that went missing in Iraq.
 
2012-03-22 02:28:44 PM

gtp123: HotWingConspiracy: Nobody outside of right wing partisans cares. And they don't even care, they farking supported it until the president was near.

I keep seeing the president is near thing and don't know what it is.. Someone asked in a different thread and got called a troll, but nonetheless, what is it?

/seriously not a troll, don't hurt me :(


It's a gag from Blazing Saddles. You should watch it.
 
2012-03-22 02:29:13 PM

gtp123: HotWingConspiracy: Nobody outside of right wing partisans cares. And they don't even care, they farking supported it until the president was near.

I keep seeing the president is near thing and don't know what it is.. Someone asked in a different thread and got called a troll, but nonetheless, what is it?

/seriously not a troll, don't hurt me :(


It's from Mel Brooks' "Blazing Saddles" (new window)
 
2012-03-22 02:40:26 PM
i really get a kick out of the WW meme.


best part...


forever!!!!!!
 
2012-03-22 02:43:04 PM
Solyndra, saul alinsky fannie mae reverend wright. Anti-colonial soros GM. Unions NPR planned parenthood.

/SOROS!
 
2012-03-22 02:49:17 PM
I expect them to intensify the witch hunt after the election. If they can't beat him in the re-elections they'll just try to impeach him during his 2nd term, just like they did with Clinton..
 
2012-03-22 03:00:44 PM

Kibbler: Solyndra, was that the thing where pallets of government cash worth hundreds of millions disappeared? And nobody has any idea where the cash went? There one day, and the next, it was gone? Zero accountability to this day? Just "one of those things", ha ha ha?


Are you sure you aren't thinking of Iraq? The amount that disappeared was a lot higher but the rest of your description seems more apt for the pallets of Benjamins flown into Baghdad.


I see that has been handled already.

what_now: I thought subby was kidding:

"Ultimately, we'll stop it on Election Day, hopefully. And bringing attention to these things helps the voters and citizens of the country make the kind of decision that I hope helps them as they evaluate who they are going to vote for in November."

He *actually* said he will stop investigating what he considers to be a horrible crime for political reasons.

Amazing


Actually his quote could be interpreted to mean that come election day, having seen what the GOP has done with control of the House including this snipe hunt, the voters will run them out of office taking away their power to hold these waste of time and money hearings.
 
2012-03-22 03:04:56 PM

Corvus: Kibbler: Solyndra, was that the thing where pallets of government cash worth hundreds of millions disappeared? And nobody has any idea where the cash went? There one day, and the next, it was gone? Zero accountability to this day? Just "one of those things", ha ha ha?

I think you are thinking about the Iraq war under Bush and that was BILLIONS disappearing.


The skids of cash were freedom investments that was undercut by dirty libs like yourself. Bush bet on freedom. Obama bet on burning the constitution.
 
2012-03-22 03:09:11 PM
Solyndra is a big 'ol screwup by the Obama administration on many levels. To not use it as a campaign issue would be insane.
 
2012-03-22 03:10:40 PM

Cletus C.: Solyndra is a big 'ol screwup by the Obama administration on many levels. To not use it as a campaign issue would be insane.


I know, especially when you have so little to begin with.
 
2012-03-22 03:36:10 PM

Corvus: I am more concerned with the billions of guarantee loans we are giving to build nuclear plants when people from the nuclear industry said to congress 1 out of 2 new nuclear plants fail to be built from cost over runs.


In Georgia, Southern Company successfully lobbied to get the state to allow them to put a construction surcharge on current bills to pay for the new plants. So they get the money upfront, and a Fed guarantee that if the plant is not licensed for operation, they get their money back from the loan guarantee.

How about that for some lobbying acrobatics?
 
2012-03-22 03:36:45 PM

Cletus C.: Solyndra is a big 'ol screwup by the Obama administration on many levels. To not use it as a campaign issue would be insane.


An example of how they anticipated that some of the Government investment in renewable energy investment wouldn't not pan out. Those many layers?
 
2012-03-22 03:44:04 PM

Cletus C.: Solyndra is a big 'ol screwup by the Obama administration on many levels. To not use it as a campaign issue would be insane.


While the issue certainly embiggens the GOP campaign Solyndra has too many syllables to work with their target audience. Sticking with Mus-lin, Ken-yen and so-shlism would be better bets.
 
2012-03-22 04:09:42 PM

TwoHead: Cletus C.: Solyndra is a big 'ol screwup by the Obama administration on many levels. To not use it as a campaign issue would be insane.

While the issue certainly embiggens the GOP campaign Solyndra has too many syllables to work with their target audience. Sticking with Mus-lin, Ken-yen and so-shlism would be better bets.


You honestly might be on to something and that's is truly sad. If they would have labelled this sungate or solargate, they would have been able to keep the mouth breathers chirping for months. I doubt half of them could spell the full name of the President.
 
2012-03-22 04:46:18 PM
'I want seven hearings a week, times 40 weeks.' --Darrel Issa, 2010, promising endless partisan witch-hunt political show trials. Which he has been delivering ever since.
 
2012-03-22 05:09:08 PM

mrshowrules: TwoHead: Cletus C.: Solyndra is a big 'ol screwup by the Obama administration on many levels. To not use it as a campaign issue would be insane.

While the issue certainly embiggens the GOP campaign Solyndra has too many syllables to work with their target audience. Sticking with Mus-lin, Ken-yen and so-shlism would be better bets.

You honestly might be on to something and that's is truly sad. If they would have labelled this sungate or solargate, they would have been able to keep the mouth breathers chirping for months. I doubt half of them could spell the full name of the President.


All they need to do is say Obama spent $535 million for a photo op. That's pretty simple.

They even have the photo to show.
 
2012-03-22 05:43:21 PM
If you know it's a ripoff, there's no need for an investigation. You investigate something for one of two reasons - to determine the facts surrounding an alleged crime, or to waste treasury money on pointless political grandstanding. How very conservative of you.

/where are the jobs you promised, pubtards?
 
2012-03-22 05:44:41 PM
Solyndra, when the walls fell. Soros, with sweat and dead man's balls.

/Ayers and Wright at Tanagra!
 
2012-03-22 05:45:49 PM

Jim_Callahan: Bad business decision?


I heard a really good piece on Solyndra on NPR last month. I can't dig for the article at work but the gist of it was the "scandal" was due to incredibly bad timing. IIRC, Solyndra had a unique design, meant to capture more solar energy while taking up less space. That design relied on a particular type of silicon for their solar cells and the price on silicon suddenly skyrocketed. During negotiations w/the DOE, the price of silicon dropped drastically. By the time the DOE deal was done, conventional solar cells made with the now-inexpensive silicon flooded the market & Solyndra was left with extremely expensive, obsolete inventory.

There's no scandal here. It's not like Solyndra cooked he books or hid anything. By all accounts, they were a cutting-edge company that was even praised in the industry for their solar cell design.
 
2012-03-22 06:13:10 PM

brigid_fitch: Jim_Callahan: Bad business decision?

I heard a really good piece on Solyndra on NPR last month. I can't dig for the article at work but the gist of it was the "scandal" was due to incredibly bad timing. IIRC, Solyndra had a unique design, meant to capture more solar energy while taking up less space. That design relied on a particular type of silicon for their solar cells and the price on silicon suddenly skyrocketed. During negotiations w/the DOE, the price of silicon dropped drastically. By the time the DOE deal was done, conventional solar cells made with the now-inexpensive silicon flooded the market & Solyndra was left with extremely expensive, obsolete inventory.

There's no scandal here. It's not like Solyndra cooked he books or hid anything. By all accounts, they were a cutting-edge company that was even praised in the industry for their solar cell design.


That's all well and good but the Republicans don't and won't hear that. All they want is something anything to pin on Obama.
The spin from the right on this is incredible.
 
2012-03-22 07:44:31 PM

sparkeyjames: brigid_fitch: Jim_Callahan: Bad business decision?

I heard a really good piece on Solyndra on NPR last month. I can't dig for the article at work but the gist of it was the "scandal" was due to incredibly bad timing. IIRC, Solyndra had a unique design, meant to capture more solar energy while taking up less space. That design relied on a particular type of silicon for their solar cells and the price on silicon suddenly skyrocketed. During negotiations w/the DOE, the price of silicon dropped drastically. By the time the DOE deal was done, conventional solar cells made with the now-inexpensive silicon flooded the market & Solyndra was left with extremely expensive, obsolete inventory.

There's no scandal here. It's not like Solyndra cooked he books or hid anything. By all accounts, they were a cutting-edge company that was even praised in the industry for their solar cell design.

That's all well and good but the Republicans don't and won't hear that. All they want is something anything to pin on Obama.
The spin from the right on this is incredible.


Uh yeah, I believe this is the NPR report he's referencing. Link (new window)

There are no conclusions drawn about anything, other than it was a terribly bad investment for the government. It does say there has been no evidence of cronyism thus far.

But don't skip over this line in the report just because you want Solyndra to go away.

"That said, there's no question that the White House put pressure on the Office of Management and Budget as well as the Department of Energy to push this loan through quickly, and they did ignore some of the advice. ... Whether the connections can be spelled out as clearly as Obama's opponents want [them] to be, that's something that we're going to see in the months to come."

Obama is going to have to live with that.
 
2012-03-22 09:51:25 PM

Crunch61: A bad investment that didn't stand a chance against the Chinese subsidies.


^This. Blaming the Chinese is total BS.

BASIC MARKET RESEARCH. Who are your competitors? Basic business plan stuff.

It's utterly incompetent to make a half billion dollar investment in a company and not know that your main competition has big time government subsidies.
 
2012-03-23 12:09:46 PM

Kibbler: Solyndra, was that the thing where pallets of government cash worth hundreds of millions disappeared? And nobody has any idea where the cash went? There one day, and the next, it was gone? Zero accountability to this day? Just "one of those things", ha ha ha?


You type pretty well for a person who was born in 2009.
 
Displayed 43 of 43 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report