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2012-03-22 09:38:25 PM

robsul82: Tracy Porter to the Broncos, per Schefter.

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At least Pey Pey doesn't have to worry about that happening when the Saints and Broncos play this season.

/that specific guy doing it to him, rather



How sad do you think they were when they learned Peyton Manning wasn't carted off the field?
 
2012-03-22 09:42:31 PM

cptrios: That sounds like sheer misery, needing a whole 10 years to make what Jay-Z has made. Brady and Gisele are no better than hobos, really.


I'm not saying they're down on their luck. But, it is slightly misleading to say that they are the highest paid couple. I mean, Jay-Z probably has a net worth north of 750m
 
2012-03-22 09:43:22 PM

Blink: How sad do you think they were when they learned Peyton Manning wasn't carted off the field?


moneysavingmom.com

I'm sure Tracy enjoyed his bonus from watching tape and picking up on Peyton's habits, though.
 
2012-03-22 10:12:52 PM

robsul82: Tracy Porter to the Broncos, per Schefter.

[media.timesrecordnews.com image 607x368]

At least Pey Pey doesn't have to worry about that happening when the Saints and Broncos play this season.

/that specific guy doing it to him, rather


PORTER?! Holy...! O_O
 
2012-03-22 10:17:39 PM

Captain Steroid: PORTER?! Holy...! O_O


Odds were we weren't getting him back even without all this craziness, but hey, enjoy him, I'll certainly never forget him. Certainly has his flaws in coverage, but I'm not going to be one of those fans who shiat talks anyone who leaves. He'll be good for you guys.
 
2012-03-22 10:30:02 PM

ihatedumbpeople: ThatGuyGreg: Meanwhile, Best Manning just laughs and laughs.

ha ha...though his laugh is more like a "huh huh...duh..huh huh"


Hey, he can laugh anyway he wants to; he got the trophy.
 
2012-03-22 10:32:40 PM

4NSpy: How much will Bernard Pollard make when he takes them both out?


If Bernard Pollard signed with the Jets, here's the Pats' fans reaction:

nooooooooooooooo.com
 
2012-03-22 10:36:27 PM

robsul82: Tracy Porter to the Broncos, per Schefter.

[media.timesrecordnews.com image 607x368]

At least Pey Pey doesn't have to worry about that happening when the Saints and Broncos play this season.

/that specific guy doing it to him, rather


That's still one of the more cooler moments in SB history, despite the whole bounty deal afterwards.

/And that party in NO made the ones in "Animal House" seem like a soiree.
 
2012-03-22 10:47:34 PM

Rwa2play: That's still one of the more cooler moments in SB history, despite the whole bounty deal afterwards.

/And that party in NO made the ones in "Animal House" seem like a soiree.


Definitely. That and the ballsiest call in SB history, Ambush.
 
2012-03-22 11:10:13 PM
Manning also has one more legitimate Super Bowl ring than Tom Brady.

/BRONCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!
 
2012-03-22 11:23:22 PM

orangehat: Manning also has one more legitimate Super Bowl ring than Tom Brady.

/BRONCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!


I dunno, beating Rex Grossman kinda deserves its own asterisk.
 
2012-03-22 11:24:24 PM

IAmRight: orangehat: Manning also has one more legitimate Super Bowl ring than Tom Brady.

/BRONCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

I dunno, beating Rex Grossman kinda deserves its own asterisk.


He had to beat the top three scoring defenses on his way to the SB, so I guess you can give it another asterisk.
 
2012-03-22 11:28:41 PM

redmid17: IAmRight: orangehat: Manning also has one more legitimate Super Bowl ring than Tom Brady.

/BRONCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

I dunno, beating Rex Grossman kinda deserves its own asterisk.

He had to beat the top three scoring defenses on his way to the SB, so I guess you can give it another asterisk.


Hell I just looked it up and he beat 8 of the top 10 scoring defenses during the 2006 season. That's fairly impressive.
 
2012-03-22 11:33:37 PM

robsul82: Tracy Porter to the Broncos, per Schefter.

[media.timesrecordnews.com image 607x368]

At least Pey Pey doesn't have to worry about that happening when the Saints and Broncos play this season.

/that specific guy doing it to him, rather


img210.imageshack.us

/I don't know why I thought this up, I must be seeing too many Tebow/Jesus links
 
2012-03-22 11:38:13 PM

Droog8912: robsul82: Tracy Porter to the Broncos, per Schefter.

[media.timesrecordnews.com image 607x368]

At least Pey Pey doesn't have to worry about that happening when the Saints and Broncos play this season.

/that specific guy doing it to him, rather

[img210.imageshack.us image 607x368]

/I don't know why I thought this up, I must be seeing too many Tebow/Jesus links


Cry moar.
 
2012-03-22 11:58:31 PM

robsul82:
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/I don't know why I thought this up, I must be seeing too many Tebow/Jesus links

Cry moar.


Stop being so Chris Crockery, it was a joke.
 
2012-03-23 12:04:55 AM

Droog8912: Stop being so Chris Crockery, it was a joke.


And a hi-larious one at that, lol.
 
2012-03-23 01:09:23 AM
I'm not usually the one to defend Peyton, but calling him "Goofus" because the Colts management put the screws to him hardly seems fair.
 
2012-03-23 06:42:53 AM
It feels weird having Peyton as quarterback.
 
2012-03-23 09:11:26 AM

Jonny Chimpo: If this is allowed, why is moving the bonuses to be front loaded like the Cowboys and Redskins did during the uncapped season not? They both upset the parity of the salary cap system*

*I do not think the Cowboys/Redskins should have been punished to their dealings in an UNCAPPED year that the other owners agreed to when they signed the CBA in 2005/2006.

/Yes, I am a Redskins fan
//Good think RGIII can run for his life



I'll explain.

The patriots are merely shifting the cap hit from this year to next(well the next couple)...They are still going to be limited by it....Yes, there cap number is down $7.2 million this year, but the patriots are going to have to count that cap money at some point...it didn't simply vanish.

The redskins and cowboys systematically restructured a bunch of contracts to front load them into the uncapped year. This allowed them to sign and/or retain players while not hurting their caps and/or freeing up cap space in the coming years.

And the key here is....Everyone was told specifically not to move a bunch of contracts into the uncapped year to try and "game" the system...and that there would be punishment for teams who did it.
 
2012-03-23 09:14:05 AM

mrtoadswildride: Jonny Chimpo: If this is allowed, why is moving the bonuses to be front loaded like the Cowboys and Redskins did during the uncapped season not? They both upset the parity of the salary cap system*

*I do not think the Cowboys/Redskins should have been punished to their dealings in an UNCAPPED year that the other owners agreed to when they signed the CBA in 2005/2006.

/Yes, I am a Redskins fan
//Good think RGIII can run for his life


I'll explain.

The patriots are merely shifting the cap hit from this year to next(well the next couple)...They are still going to be limited by it....Yes, there cap number is down $7.2 million this year, but the patriots are going to have to count that cap money at some point...it didn't simply vanish.

The redskins and cowboys systematically restructured a bunch of contracts to front load them into the uncapped year. This allowed them to sign and/or retain players while not hurting their caps and/or freeing up cap space in the coming years.

And the key here is....Everyone was told specifically not to move a bunch of contracts into the uncapped year to try and "game" the system...and that there would be punishment for teams who did it.


The fact that they had rules in place and they were told not to follow the rules irks me, and I hate the Cowboys(who cares about the Redskins, they can't win for losing).
 
2012-03-23 09:25:16 AM

quoinguy: Why would he do that? Wasn't constant restructuring for the good of the team what got Indy into the $28,000,000 hole that forced them to cut Manning?

Who says Brady doesn't get hurt and cut form the Pats, missing the paydays in later seasons?


The situation is a bit different because:

1) Next year, the cap is going to increase about 20% due to the new TV contracts.
2) He's converting salary into bonuses which means he gets the money earlier and it's only the cap hit that's delayed.
3) His wife makes more money than he does with her lingerie line.
 
2012-03-23 09:27:02 AM

muck4doo: Jonny Chimpo: TonyDanza: Jonny Chimpo:
*I do not think the Cowboys/Redskins should have been punished to their dealings in an UNCAPPED year that the other owners agreed to when they signed the CBA in 2005/2006.


If teams were not warned ahead of time that doing this could end up in future penalties I would more than likely agree. But, it's not like every team didn't think about it, so the NFL warned teams not do it so as to avoid making pretty much all long term contracts into a joke.

Warned to follow a non-existent rule? The season was UNCAPPED. The owners agreed to the uncapped year in the previous CBA negotiations. If they were warned to not overspend dramatically, that is called collusion. Ask the MLB owners from the 80s if collusion is illegal.

Also, if the uncapped year had a "cap" to avoid competitive imbalance, why aren't teams like Tampa Bay or Jacksonville not being punished for severely dropping below the current salary floor?

Notice they never answer that last part. Skins and Boys got jobbed for not doing illegal acts.


I'll throw it out there -- I hate the Red Skins, hate the Cowboys, and abhor their owners but they totally got the wrong end of the fark stick on this one.
 
2012-03-23 09:27:42 AM

mrtoadswildride: The patriots are merely shifting the cap hit from this year to next(well the next couple)...They are still going to be limited by it....Yes, there cap number is down $7.2 million this year, but the patriots are going to have to count that cap money at some point...it didn't simply vanish.


they're not the only team doing it, the Lions did it with Suh, Stafford and Burleson amongst others. I think why all these deals are being restructured into monster cap hits next season is that the league's TV deals are coming up for renewal and there will be a slew of extra money coming in when they get signed, and I think due to the new CBA, a lot of that money will be allocated directly to players, cranking up the salary cap.
 
2012-03-23 09:30:11 AM

mrtoadswildride: Jonny Chimpo: If this is allowed, why is moving the bonuses to be front loaded like the Cowboys and Redskins did during the uncapped season not? They both upset the parity of the salary cap system*

*I do not think the Cowboys/Redskins should have been punished to their dealings in an UNCAPPED year that the other owners agreed to when they signed the CBA in 2005/2006.

/Yes, I am a Redskins fan
//Good think RGIII can run for his life


I'll explain.

The patriots are merely shifting the cap hit from this year to next(well the next couple)...They are still going to be limited by it....Yes, there cap number is down $7.2 million this year, but the patriots are going to have to count that cap money at some point...it didn't simply vanish.

The redskins and cowboys systematically restructured a bunch of contracts to front load them into the uncapped year. This allowed them to sign and/or retain players while not hurting their caps and/or freeing up cap space in the coming years.

And the key here is....Everyone was told specifically not to move a bunch of contracts into the uncapped year to try and "game" the system...and that there would be punishment for teams who did it.


And the super key is -- that warning wasn't agreed to by the owners, wasn't part of the CBA, and is a violation of the Sherman Ant-Trust Act.
 
2012-03-23 09:42:22 AM

GoodyearPimp: Gallant apparently sleeps on with his supermodel wife on a giant pile of money.


While Goofus flashes his two Super Bowl rings in the British way.
 
2012-03-23 09:47:47 AM

bhcompy: Excuse me while I whip this out..

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That's why I think Brady's gonna end his career in SF.

Jonny Chimpo: If this is allowed, why is moving the bonuses to be front loaded like the Cowboys and Redskins did during the uncapped season not? \


There's your answer there. NotPats
 
2012-03-23 10:35:04 AM

OtherLittleGuy: GoodyearPimp: Gallant apparently sleeps on with his supermodel wife on a giant pile of money.

While Goofus flashes his two Super Bowl rings in the British way.


Did he steal one of the three that Gallant owns?
 
2012-03-23 11:17:50 AM

meanmutton: mrtoadswildride: Jonny Chimpo: If this is allowed, why is moving the bonuses to be front loaded like the Cowboys and Redskins did during the uncapped season not? They both upset the parity of the salary cap system*

*I do not think the Cowboys/Redskins should have been punished to their dealings in an UNCAPPED year that the other owners agreed to when they signed the CBA in 2005/2006.

/Yes, I am a Redskins fan
//Good think RGIII can run for his life


I'll explain.

The patriots are merely shifting the cap hit from this year to next(well the next couple)...They are still going to be limited by it....Yes, there cap number is down $7.2 million this year, but the patriots are going to have to count that cap money at some point...it didn't simply vanish.

The redskins and cowboys systematically restructured a bunch of contracts to front load them into the uncapped year. This allowed them to sign and/or retain players while not hurting their caps and/or freeing up cap space in the coming years.

And the key here is....Everyone was told specifically not to move a bunch of contracts into the uncapped year to try and "game" the system...and that there would be punishment for teams who did it.

And the super key is -- that warning wasn't agreed to by the owners, wasn't part of the CBA, and is a violation of the Sherman Ant-Trust Act.


And here's the super, duper key....being in a labor union (such as the NFLPA) and using collective bargaining exempts both sides from certain antitrust laws.
 
2012-03-23 11:47:52 AM
Let the Brady hate begin...........................guy does something good because what the hell he really doesn't need rhe $$ and people will call him a douche for doing it.
 
2012-03-23 12:17:36 PM

weatherwitch666: Let the Brady hate begin...........................guy does something good because what the hell he really doesn't need rhe $$ and people will call him a douche for doing it.


It's not hate. The dude converted part of his contract from salary to a type of bonus. Team gets a more cap flexibility, and he gets more money. This kind of restructuring is exceedingly common, not even really deserving of a spiffy tag.
 
2012-03-23 12:33:34 PM

weatherwitch666: Let the Brady hate begin...........................guy does something good because what the hell he really doesn't need rhe $$ and people will call him a douche for doing it.


Yes, it's not that we're berating the subby for being an ignorant asshat. It's that we're hating on Brady.
 
2012-03-23 01:21:55 PM

weatherwitch666: Let the Brady hate begin...........................guy does something good because what the hell he really doesn't need rhe $$ and people will call him a douche for doing it.


Nothing of that sort has happened in this thread, but it's nice to see you've inherited the New England persecution complex.
 
2012-03-23 04:40:21 PM

weatherwitch666: Let the Brady hate begin...........................guy does something good because what the hell he really doesn't need rhe $$ and people will call him a douche for doing it.


Can we call you a douche for not paying even the slightest bit of attention?
 
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