mikaloyd: If there is one thing I know about pro football, it is to never ever do what the Chargers like to do at quarterback. They have thrown away more superbowl winning quarterbacks in the last 10 years than most teams will ever have.







C'mon, it's a sad day, you've gotta allow me this one kick of the dog, thread.

robsul82: redmid17: Well no. Teams in the past who've violated the salary cap (eg Broncos) have been punished. Bounties are explicitly illegal as is salary cap circumvention. If Payton and Loomis had stopped the program instead of giving a big middle finger to the league office, these punishments would be solely on Williams and the players.

Yes, it's illegal, but it doesn't rise to the level of cheating. You know, Tracy Porter got bonuses for picking off Favre and Peyton, is that cheating? While it violates the salary cap, no, obviously not.

cheat - verb (used without object - ie The Saints cheated)

4. to practice fraud or deceit: - Check
5. to violate rules or regulations: - Check

Really? Main page for stupid crap like this? Newslash! That's why there's a Sports tab people. FARK has really run it's course....

/just kidding

netweavr: So the person who reported the bounty-system was Jeremy Shockey.

On December 16, 2007, in week 15 of the season, while playing the Washington Redskins, Shockey broke his left fibula and suffered damage to his ankle. He underwent surgery, and missed the rest of the 2007 season. Kevin Boss then took over Shockey's spot as the starting tight end.

In 2007 the DC for the Washington Redskins was.... Gregg Williams.

Killer Cars: Chris Kluwe just went nuts on Twitter. Granted, he'll go nuts on Twitter over a bad smoothie from Orange Julius, but still.

f-bomb laden tirade in 140-character-or-less snippets

redmid17: cheat - verb (used without object - ie The Saints cheated)

4. to practice fraud or deceit: - Check
5. to violate rules or regulations: - Check

LOL, get ready for all those dirty cheaters hopping offsides and the like in every game this season.

fatalvenom: Charming fellow? You must not venture into the hockey threads much huh. =)

No, sir. :)


robsul82: @QBKilla
BINGO! RT @elnicastro: Shockey..? RT QBKILLA: Just Heard Who The Snitch Was
1 minute ago

Shockey? 4 realz?

Are you surprised? Honestly?

@AdamSchefter
Jets-Broncos agreed to Tim Tebow trade before Denver asked NY to pay back portion of bonuses and salary already paid to Tebow. No deal yet.

Hahaha, seriously? "Uh, by the way, could you guys pay back a portion of the salary and bonuses we've already paid to Tebow, that cool?" after the deal is made? Even if that's a regular happening, that's amusing to picture.

..also, I gotta find out Chris Kluwe's Steam name so I can get some Civ V on with him

Di Atribe: fatalvenom: Charming fellow? You must not venture into the hockey threads much huh. =)

No, sir. :)


Charming troll is charming. ;)

Di Atribe: Are you surprised? Honestly?

I suppose not, I'm just trying to figure out a reason why he'd snitch. I guess the injury against the Redskins is as good as any, I'm just wondering how long it took him to figure out that Williams was the DC of the 'Skins at the time.

robsul82: @AdamSchefter
Jets-Broncos agreed to Tim Tebow trade before Denver asked NY to pay back portion of bonuses and salary already paid to Tebow. No deal yet.

Hahaha, seriously? "Uh, by the way, could you guys pay back a portion of the salary and bonuses we've already paid to Tebow, that cool?" after the deal is made? Even if that's a regular happening, that's amusing to picture.

The guy on TV said that it's money that Tebow would have to repay were he to retire early. So, I guess it's cause if he were to retire, he'd pay that money back to NY now instead of Denver?

@EyeOnNFL
RT @realfreemancbs: Shockey was not the Bountygate source. Repeat: he wasn't. Not true. And I don't even like Shockey.
Retweeted by Larry Holder

The Search for the Snitch continues!

Tebowmania has already hit Manhattan...guess these guys are hoping the snag doesn't kill the deal, or else they're gonna feel REALLY foolish, lol.

robsul82: Hahaha, seriously? "Uh, by the way, could you guys pay back a portion of the salary and bonuses we've already paid to Tebow, that cool?" after the deal is made? Even if that's a regular happening, that's amusing to picture

You have to remember that last time Denver traded away a goofy quarterback it was to Chicago. That stuff would have flown last time around.

Zulu_as_Kono: Don't bother - he's got his fingers in his ears and is saying "lalala I can't hear you" loud enough for me to hear him two states away.

Nah, just comfortable pointing out that under the dictionary definition, every single instance of breaking a rule constitutes cheating, so every time you see a yellow flag on the field, that player cheated. Oh, and that most people who played the game agree with me, that's pretty good too.

robsul82: [i.imgur.com image 480x360]

Tebowmania has already hit Manhattan...guess these guys are hoping the snag doesn't kill the deal, or else they're gonna feel REALLY foolish, lol.

Would he still be #15? Does the number usually follow the player?

Earpj: Does the number usually follow the player?

Yes, at least in cases where the player has a well known name.

robsul82: redmid17: cheat - verb (used without object - ie The Saints cheated)

4. to practice fraud or deceit: - Check
5. to violate rules or regulations: - Check

LOL, get ready for all those dirty cheaters hopping offsides and the like in every game this season.

They'll be penalized too. That's why refs have those yellow flags as well as the ability to toss players from games. Thumbing your nose multiple times at the league office when they essentially saved your ass from going to jail is one of *the* stupidest things they could have done.

robsul82: @AdamSchefter
Jets-Broncos agreed to Tim Tebow trade before Denver asked NY to pay back portion of bonuses and salary already paid to Tebow. No deal yet.

Hahaha, seriously? "Uh, by the way, could you guys pay back a portion of the salary and bonuses we've already paid to Tebow, that cool?" after the deal is made? Even if that's a regular happening, that's amusing to picture.

Well, from the sounds of it, the language was in the contract. So it's more that the Jets didn't bother to do due diligence....

redmid17: That's why refs have those yellow flags as well as the ability to toss players from games.

And so you've stumbled into why this isn't cheating. Kudos.

Publikwerks: Well, from the sounds of it, the language was in the contract. So it's more that the Jets didn't bother to do due diligence....

Why am I not surprised, lol.

mikaloyd: Earpj: Does the number usually follow the player?

Yes, at least in cases where the player has a well known name.

Ok.
I wasn't sure.

four95: And because today in the NFL couldn't get any more bizarre, the Tebow/Jets trade may now have fallen apart. Apprently someone forgot to read his contract with Denver and the Jets might have to pay back $5 million in salary to make the deal.

Someone in the legal dept. is in trouble.

Link (new window) to a screenshot of Kluwe's rant. Some NSFW language or I'd just post it inline and I know how sensitive some of you guys can be with your virgin eyes and pristine souls (looking at you Tim Tebow).

Zulu_as_Kono: robsul82: Oh, and that most people who played the game agree with me, that's pretty good too.

That's rich.

And true, yes indeed.

four95: And because today in the NFL couldn't get any more bizarre, the Tebow/Jets trade may now have fallen apart. Apprently someone forgot to read his contract with Denver and the Jets might have to pay back $5 million in salary to make the deal.

Welcome to 30 minutes agorobsul82: @AdamSchefter
Tim Tebow has $5 million worth of recapture language, meaning Jets would have to pay back money to Denver. Jets might be unwilling. Complex.

Di Atribe: Link (new window) to a screenshot of Kluwe's rant. Some NSFW language or I'd just post it inline and I know how sensitive some of you guys can be with your virgin eyes and pristine souls (looking at you Tim Tebow).

That's kinda extreme for a punter.

robsul82: Zulu_as_Kono: Don't bother - he's got his fingers in his ears and is saying "lalala I can't hear you" loud enough for me to hear him two states away.

Nah, just comfortable pointing out that under the dictionary definition, every single instance of breaking a rule constitutes cheating, so every time you see a yellow flag on the field, that player cheated. Oh, and that most people who played the game agree with me, that's pretty good too.

The people playing or who have played the game aren't ones enforcing the rules. The NFLPA has only backed the NFL on this, and they're opening an investigation into it as well.

Link (new window)
In a statement released Wednesday, the union vowed to "vigorously protect the rights of all players."

"If the facts prove that players voluntarily and willingly participated in conduct that jeopardized health and safety, we will work with them and the league to put in place additional safeguards to prevent this in the future," the statement said. "Dangerous play and acts on the field by players intended to injure have no place in football. We must do better to ensure that this activity is not a part of our game."
"Noting those comments, the NFLPA said Wednesday that it "negotiated vigorously to protect our players from coercive actions that compromise health and safety. The current CBA contains detailed rules on what clubs and coaches can and cannot do in terms of practice schedules and places limitations on the amount of contact. These rules include how clubs and coaches can be punished for violations of those safeguards."

robsul82: Di Atribe: Link (new window) to a screenshot of Kluwe's rant. Some NSFW language or I'd just post it inline and I know how sensitive some of you guys can be with your virgin eyes and pristine souls (looking at you Tim Tebow).

That's kinda extreme for a punter.

I thought we already established on Fark that punters win games.

robsul82: That's kinda extreme for a punter.

He's an emo punter