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2012-03-21 11:25:30 AM
Yea, last night when I heard this on the way home I was screaming WTF!!!

Now that I've slepped on it, I can see why they did it. The Texans are now around 14 million under the cap space when we were about 400k at the begining of the FA. Ryans wasn't fitting in with Wade's 3-4 scheme. He was being pulled off the field for pass plays. Plus he just came off that injury where the leg muscle comes off the bone. Considering how much Wade nailed his draft picks last year ( JJ Watt and Brooks Reed were awesome), I have no doubts they had replacements in mind.

That being said, if he stays healthy the Eagles got a steal. Really sad to see him go though. Really liked him and what he brought to the defense.
 
2012-03-21 11:36:50 AM

alwaysjaded: Now that I've slepped on it, I can see why they did it. The Texans are now around 14 million under the cap space when we were about 400k at the begining of the FA. Ryans wasn't fitting in with Wade's 3-4 scheme. He was being pulled off the field for pass plays. Plus he just came off that injury where the leg muscle comes off the bone. Considering how much Wade nailed his draft picks last year ( JJ Watt and Brooks Reed were awesome), I have no doubts they had replacements in mind.


This. "Next man up." I just hope they have someone in mind.

However, I think they could have asked for (and received) a lot more...
 
2012-03-21 11:37:05 AM
Phillly trading for a linebacker... the predictions about the end times are true.
 
2012-03-21 11:39:53 AM

dragyne: Phillly trading for a linebacker... the predictions about the end times are true.


Does this make them a dream team now?
 
2012-03-21 11:42:18 AM
The Eagles really have not had a true defensive leader in the locker room since Dawkins. Yes he is coming off of an injury but I think he is going to thrive on that team.
 
2012-03-21 11:43:18 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Does this make them a dream team now?


Shhhhhhh!!!
 
2012-03-21 11:50:47 AM
So, the Texans are improving their playoff team by letting one star leave in free agency and trading another for a late draft pick.

Wade, you better not fark this up.
 
2012-03-21 11:50:52 AM
I'm sure this will work out perfectly. No way the Eagles miss the playoffs next year!!!

/ lol not really
 
2012-03-21 11:52:22 AM

rufus-t-firefly: So, the Texans are improving their playoff team by letting one star leave in free agency and trading another for a late draft pick.

Wade, you better not fark this up.


I know! How could they let Jake Delhomme just walk like that?!
 
2012-03-21 11:53:29 AM

star_topology: alwaysjaded: Now that I've slepped on it, I can see why they did it. The Texans are now around 14 million under the cap space when we were about 400k at the begining of the FA. Ryans wasn't fitting in with Wade's 3-4 scheme. He was being pulled off the field for pass plays. Plus he just came off that injury where the leg muscle comes off the bone. Considering how much Wade nailed his draft picks last year ( JJ Watt and Brooks Reed were awesome), I have no doubts they had replacements in mind.

This. "Next man up." I just hope they have someone in mind.

However, I think they could have asked for (and received) a lot more...


Supposedly Daryl Sharpton, his backup is stepping up. I read some article that said Wade felt Daryl was more than enough to replace him. I think the Texans are going to draft Poe, that DT from Memphis if he's still there in the first round.

Now that the Texans have 14 million, I wonder if they're saving it for next year or going after a WR. Is there even any left?

Ryans is also a natural leader so he will do just fine in Philly if he stays healthy.

/ yes, the Texans probably could've got a little more.
 
2012-03-21 11:55:19 AM
The Eagles are doing their best to wrest the title of off season champs from the Redskins. Sure the Eagles were very bold last year and are in good shape this year but the committee remains impressed by the Redskins overall body of work.
 
2012-03-21 11:57:15 AM
why does he have a used toothbrush and a sack of beans?
 
2012-03-21 11:59:03 AM

rufus-t-firefly: So, the Texans are improving their playoff team by letting one star leave in free agency and trading another for a late draft pick.

Wade, you better not fark this up.


At the beginning of FA, the Texans had 400k to spend. No farking way in hell they were keeping Mario and they knew it. Hell, they had to let half the O-line go just to keep the center.

But try explaining that to all the retarded fair weather fans screaming "WHY DIDN'T WE GO AFTER PAYTON MANNING!!1!!11!!"
What were we going to pay him with? Some shirt buttons, Texas BBQ and a tale of adventure?
 
2012-03-21 12:04:09 PM
Great pick-up. Not sure if this knocks the Boston College LB out of the Eagles crosshairs come draft time, but a lane clogging DT would be very tempting if Poe or that-one-from-Ole-Miss-whose-name-escapes-me is still on the board.

Fark-the-Fnord: The Eagles really have not had a true defensive leader in the locker room since Dawkins. Yes he is coming off of an injury but I think he is going to thrive on that team.


If he even brings a fraction of Dawkins to the linebacking corps core unit, it will do wonders.
 
2012-03-21 12:05:08 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: dragyne: Phillly trading for a linebacker... the predictions about the end times are true.

Does this make them a dream team now?


lol.

fin.
 
2012-03-21 12:06:29 PM
Yet another Philadelphia team is taking complete advantage of Houston. Those guys are such assholes.

/go iggles
//go phils
 
2012-03-21 12:09:57 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: dragyne: Phillly trading for a linebacker... the predictions about the end times are true.

Does this make them a dream team now?


It was "play half a game all season" Vince Young that said this and he's not even on the team any more. This is about as relevant as Ochocinqo in Cincy jokes.
 
2012-03-21 12:14:58 PM
This needed to happen, last year Ryans was really not a big factor in the Texans Defensive scheme and since coming off of his injury Demico has not been the same player he was in the 2009 season. I wish the best for him and I hope he stays healthy but I have a lot of confidence in Wade's coaching skills and his ability to evalutate new talent. I am not worried at all, in fact, now that they have some cap space I hope they pick up a good WR to help Andre Johnson since our second option is either Kevin Walter or Jacoby Jones...

God i wish they would get rid of Jacoby Jones!
 
2012-03-21 12:16:20 PM
Honestly, it's an upgrade at LB for Philly even if Ryans gets hurt on the first play of the preseason and misses the season. He automatically becomes the most-respected and intelligent defensive player and mind for the entire squad...and he might able to point out to their DC that the only possible way to criminally misuse Asomugha any worse like he did last year is to simply take him off the defensive field altogether and make him the punter.
 
2012-03-21 12:23:27 PM
Are people eager to offload their good players on Philly or something?
 
2012-03-21 12:25:44 PM

Le Bomb Suprize: The Eagles are doing their best to wrest the title of off season champs from the Redskins. Sure the Eagles were very bold last year and are in good shape this year but the committee remains impressed by the Redskins overall body of work.


Yeah, they started off rough last season because of the limited off season/strike deal, but they came around in the second half of the year. That D is gonna be scary with a full off-season together.
 
2012-03-21 12:34:16 PM

alwaysjaded: Now that the Texans have 14 million, I wonder if they're saving it for next year or going after a WR. Is there even any left?


This draft has some moderate depth for WRs and next year's should have even more. I'd say get the WR in the draft. Stud free agent WRs are expensive, but thanks to the new agreement with the player's association, rookie ones not so much.
 
2012-03-21 12:43:13 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Yet another Philadelphia team is taking complete advantage of Houston. Those guys are such assholes.

/go iggles
//go phils


sportige.com
Agrees
 
2012-03-21 12:50:45 PM

ha-ha-guy: alwaysjaded: Now that the Texans have 14 million, I wonder if they're saving it for next year or going after a WR. Is there even any left?

This draft has some moderate depth for WRs and next year's should have even more. I'd say get the WR in the draft. Stud free agent WRs are expensive, but thanks to the new agreement with the player's association, rookie ones not so much.


Yea, that makes sense. I'm guessing that they're saving for next year since Schaub's contract is out and they will re-sign him unless he completely shiats the bed.
 
2012-03-21 12:58:32 PM
"Brian Cushing may have been the team's top defensive player, but he doesn't bring to the defense what Ryans did. Not yet."

Here are a few text messages from current or former players: (new window)

"WTF!! You know what they are up to?"

"Damn, man, and they talk about loyalty."

"Cold-blooded, man, cold-blooded. But Meco will be better off for it. He's going to dominate in Philly."

"They don't what leadership means, do they? Bet they won't finish No. 2 in defense next season."

"It's an ugly business. We're not the same team without him. Gonna take a lot to replace Meco."

Players went onto Twitter with public comments as well.

Owen Daniels: "Seriously? Meco too?"

Brian Cushing: "I wouldn't be half the player or person I am today without @DRyans59 this one hurts. Philly got a unbelievable player and leader today. #59″

Glover Quin: "Honored to have had the chance to play with and learn from @DRyans59.. True leader and great person... Preciate you bro."

Eric Winston (to Owen Daniels): "Watch you(r) back kid. @owendaniels you're the last '06 guy left."
 
2012-03-21 01:04:54 PM
Wow, Sean Payton was suspended for the whole season? Seriously, fark Roger Goodell. He is absolutely out of control.
 
2012-03-21 01:05:17 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: dragyne: Phillly trading for a linebacker... the predictions about the end times are true.

Does this make them a dream team now?


Right now more of a Day Dream team maybe progressing to full on dreaming and if we are lucky a wet dream.

/I'm not sure where I am going with this metaphor
 
2012-03-21 01:07:18 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Wow, Sean Payton was suspended for the whole season? Seriously, fark Roger Goodell. He is absolutely out of control.


Holy crap. I might finally stop biatching about the Redskins being fined $36m cap space for violating the cap in an uncapped year now. I figured Gregg Williams would get the ban hammer, not Sean Payton
 
2012-03-21 01:09:06 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Wow, Sean Payton was suspended for the whole season? Seriously, fark Roger Goodell. He is absolutely out of control.


Williams suspended indefinitely, GM and Asst. Coach out 8 games. Player suspensions not announced per ongoing discussions with the NFLPA.
 
2012-03-21 01:09:10 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Wow, Sean Payton was suspended for the whole season? Seriously, fark Roger Goodell. He is absolutely out of control.


Why? Peyton oversaw a program that was intentionally trying to end the careers of other NFL players and was associating the team with know felons who have gambling ties (Michael Ornstein). He got exactly what he deserved.
 
2012-03-21 01:11:46 PM

Cucumber_Breath: Why? Peyton oversaw a program


Must be thinking of Belichick, Payton looked the other way to what Williams was doing.
 
2012-03-21 01:12:02 PM
Not to thread jack but..........


Tebow to the Jets for a 4th rd pick.
 
2012-03-21 01:13:26 PM

dirty_bird18: Not to thread jack but..........


Tebow to the Jets for a 4th rd pick.


Goodell might suspend him too for being "too nice".
 
2012-03-21 01:14:26 PM

alwaysjaded: Yea, last night when I heard this on the way home I was screaming WTF!!!

Now that I've slepped on it, I can see why they did it. The Texans are now around 14 million under the cap space when we were about 400k at the begining of the FA. Ryans wasn't fitting in with Wade's 3-4 scheme. He was being pulled off the field for pass plays. Plus he just came off that injury where the leg muscle comes off the bone. Considering how much Wade nailed his draft picks last year ( JJ Watt and Brooks Reed were awesome), I have no doubts they had replacements in mind.

That being said, if he stays healthy the Eagles got a steal. Really sad to see him go though. Really liked him and what he brought to the defense.


I'd say you've an appropriate handle for a Houston sports fan.
 
2012-03-21 01:14:35 PM

robsul82: Cucumber_Breath: Why? Peyton oversaw a program

Must be thinking of Belichick, Payton looked the other way to what Williams was doing.


Did you read the report or any of the details?
Payton knew about the scheme, and had in fact received an email from Ornstein detailing its broader lines. In that same email, Ornstein offered a bounty to anyone who knocked Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers out of the 2011 season opener. However, Payton took no action to stop it
 
2012-03-21 01:15:54 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
2012-03-21 01:16:04 PM

Cucumber_Breath: Did you read the report or any of the details?
Payton knew about the scheme, and had in fact received an email from Ornstein detailing its broader lines. In that same email, Ornstein offered a bounty to anyone who knocked Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers out of the 2011 season opener. However, Payton took no action to stop it


He knew about it and looked the other way, I don't know how to be clearer. That's not "overseeing" a program, especially like the guy who got fined $750K was.
 
2012-03-21 01:21:36 PM

Cucumber_Breath: Did you read the report or any of the details?
Payton knew about the scheme, and had in fact received an email from Ornstein detailing its broader lines. In that same email, Ornstein offered a bounty to anyone who knocked Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers out of the 2011 season opener. However, Payton took no action to stop it


Every team that played the Packers was trying to knock Rodgers out of the game. Same goes for every team that played the Saints, and Patriots, and anybody with a top flight QB.

No player is going to risk a $50k fine plus possible suspension and forfeiture of a game check to hit Rodgers with an illegal hit just so he can collect a $1,500 bounty from some nitwit.

This whole thing is so ridiculously overblown. Goodell and the NFL want us to be outraged just so Goodell can whip out his dick and show us all how big it is. And as a fan of one of the Saints key NFC rivals, I should probably be happy about this, but instead I recognize how absolutely unfair and draconian the punishment is.

Fark. Roger. Goodell.
 
2012-03-21 01:25:03 PM

robsul82: He knew about it and looked the other way, I don't know how to be clearer. That's not "overseeing" a program, especially like the guy who got fined $750K was.


Payton knew more than I thought. I agree it looks bad and penalties were deserved. But no freakin' way Payton should be suspended for the year.

Absolute horseshiat and I have yet to see anything proving the program had any tangible effect on injuries. I find all the uproar hilarious to be honest. Meanwhile, every defense in the league will still be trying their hardest to 'knock' Brees, Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, etc. 'out of the game', as hard as they can, week in and week out.

And now we have emails about communications being exposed - hey Goodell, where's the tapes and emails and internal documents from Spygate? We're still waiting on those...
 
2012-03-21 01:26:48 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Cucumber_Breath: Did you read the report or any of the details?
Payton knew about the scheme, and had in fact received an email from Ornstein detailing its broader lines. In that same email, Ornstein offered a bounty to anyone who knocked Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers out of the 2011 season opener. However, Payton took no action to stop it

Every team that played the Packers was trying to knock Rodgers out of the game. Same goes for every team that played the Saints, and Patriots, and anybody with a top flight QB.

No player is going to risk a $50k fine plus possible suspension and forfeiture of a game check to hit Rodgers with an illegal hit just so he can collect a $1,500 bounty from some nitwit.

This whole thing is so ridiculously overblown. Goodell and the NFL want us to be outraged just so Goodell can whip out his dick and show us all how big it is. And as a fan of one of the Saints key NFC rivals, I should probably be happy about this, but instead I recognize how absolutely unfair and draconian the punishment is.

Fark. Roger. Goodell.


the redskins and cowboys were punished for breaking a rule that didn't exist but yet you expected anything different for a team that did break rules? i mean overblown or not you knew it was coming.
 
2012-03-21 01:27:06 PM

JohnBigBootay: Payton knew more than I thought. I agree it looks bad and penalties were deserved. But no freakin' way Payton should be suspended for the year.

Absolute horseshiat and I have yet to see anything proving the program had any tangible effect on injuries. I find all the uproar hilarious to be honest. Meanwhile, every defense in the league will still be trying their hardest to 'knock' Brees, Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, etc. 'out of the game', as hard as they can, week in and week out.

And now we have emails about communications being exposed - hey Goodell, where's the tapes and emails and internal documents from Spygate? We're still waiting on those...


I don't know, I knew he knew of it and didn't stop it, nothing else I've seen really goes beyond what I already figured.

Yep, $750K fine, loss of draft pick, destruction of all tapes, getting the violation termed "avoiding rules" in the official press release, pretty sweet deal for that guy.
 
2012-03-21 01:27:28 PM
When did the Texans hire Ed Wade?
 
2012-03-21 01:30:10 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: No player is going to risk a $50k fine plus possible suspension and forfeiture of a game check to hit Rodgers with an illegal hit just so he can collect a $1,500 bounty from some nitwit.

This whole thing is so ridiculously overblown.



Amen. The paying people is obviously a violation and it should be stopped. But as I've said before, if a qb gets knocked out with a legal hit, no problem. If he gets knocked out with an illegal hit, the fines and penalties could greatly outweigh the bounty. So the whole damn thing was stupid to start with.

What this is is pandering and grandstanding, plain and simple. The saints aren't my team but I'd prefer our opponents not be unfairly manipulated by the commissioner so we might have fair competition. To this day I think spygate (while also overblown) to be the far more grievous violation.
 
2012-03-21 01:32:23 PM

Omorda: the redskins and cowboys were punished for breaking a rule that didn't exist but yet you expected anything different for a team that did break rules? i mean overblown or not you knew it was coming.


Yeah, and as someone who absolutely DESPISES the cowboys and has no love whatsoever for the Skins, that punishment was bullshiat to.

Goodell needs to go. It's time for a mutiny.
 
2012-03-21 01:33:36 PM

robsul82: Yep, $750K fine, loss of draft pick, destruction of all tapes, getting the violation termed "avoiding rules" in the official press release, pretty sweet deal for that guy.


It's easy to figure out. The tapes showed clear cheating by the at the time marquee franchise and goodell couldn't have everyone seeing something that created a competitive imbalance. Can't say I blame him I guess but no, it does not seem fair as Bellicheck completely ignored specific warnings and thumbed his nose at the league but got to skate.
 
2012-03-21 01:36:00 PM

JohnBigBootay: robsul82: Yep, $750K fine, loss of draft pick, destruction of all tapes, getting the violation termed "avoiding rules" in the official press release, pretty sweet deal for that guy.

It's easy to figure out. The tapes showed clear cheating by the at the time marquee franchise and goodell couldn't have everyone seeing something that created a competitive imbalance. Can't say I blame him I guess but no, it does not seem fair as Bellicheck completely ignored specific warnings and thumbed his nose at the league but got to skate.


Yeah, I'm loving how the talking heads are slobbering on this and giving kudos to Goodell for "coming down hard and sending a clear message, after all the Saints were told to stop," with nary a mention of who else was told to stop what he was doing but it wasn't a huge offense then. If anyone on any of those channels ever mentions Belichick, I'll be stunned.
 
2012-03-21 01:39:01 PM
I mean, it's happening as we speak right now, Scherleth talking about the "arrogance to ignore the memos." Mmhmm.
 
2012-03-21 01:50:00 PM

robsul82: I mean, it's happening as we speak right now, Scherleth talking about the "arrogance to ignore the memos." Mmhmm.


Oh, people will fight and rep their own interests as we always do and of course it's two completely different things. I'm just comparing the reaction and the investigation and the disclosure and the penalty and coming up with 'not fair'. Of course player safety is very important. No one is saying it isn't. I just haven't seen any concrete evidence that player safety was actually impacted.

And there seems to be all kinds of disclosure on the investigation on this one where on the spygate thing it was all tight-lipped and we got to see NONE of the evidence and to this reader it's pretty easy to guess why we got to see none of that evidence. Because it looked very bad for the league - so they didn't show it to us and got rid of it. Which I understand. But I can't call it fair.
 
2012-03-21 01:52:06 PM

Bermuda59: When did the Texans hire Ed Wade?


Huh.. yanno, I never thought about that.. maybe it has something to to with the cities..
Have the Rockets made any lopsided trades to the Sixers lately?
 
2012-03-21 01:55:02 PM

JohnBigBootay: robsul82: I mean, it's happening as we speak right now, Scherleth talking about the "arrogance to ignore the memos." Mmhmm.

Oh, people will fight and rep their own interests as we always do and of course it's two completely different things. I'm just comparing the reaction and the investigation and the disclosure and the penalty and coming up with 'not fair'. Of course player safety is very important. No one is saying it isn't. I just haven't seen any concrete evidence that player safety was actually impacted.

And there seems to be all kinds of disclosure on the investigation on this one where on the spygate thing it was all tight-lipped and we got to see NONE of the evidence and to this reader it's pretty easy to guess why we got to see none of that evidence. Because it looked very bad for the league - so they didn't show it to us and got rid of it. Which I understand. But I can't call it fair.


the reason that this is more open and more harsh is because of a) they can't seem like they are being weak on player safety due to various lawsuits and the media ripping them on that. also b) they just took away like $46 million combined from two teams for breaking no rule so if they were soft on this then it would look even more crazy. they are covering their ass on this one and i'm pretty interested to see how badly this hurts the team long and short term. i mean imagine not being able to coach a team for the next year and then come back..you wouldn't know the rookies or new players. also it essentially gives the guy filling in for you a lame duck status from day one. not to mention the gm problem.
 
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