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2012-03-20 11:55:04 AM  
My facebook page discloses:

my age
my race
my marital status
my native language
that I have children
that I am Jewish
that I have a chronic illness
that I was never in the military
that I drink alchohol

I would think that if you access my facebook page and ask me to interview and deny me a job, you are opening yourself up to a discrimination lawsuit.

http://jobsearch.about.com/od/interviewsnetworking/a/illegalinterv.ht m
http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html
 
2012-03-20 11:56:34 AM  
Post your birthday/religious affiliation/sexual preference in your info section then inform them they are not legally allowed to request that info.
 
2012-03-20 11:56:51 AM  

RoyBatty: that I drink alcohol

 
2012-03-20 11:59:23 AM  

namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?


My answer to that question when people asked me why I deleted FB was because I wanted to clean up my internet presence to set a good example for my future children.

Now, I only come up in my current wedding registry, people finder searches since I own a house, and some online technology newsgroup discussions. I feel pretty good about that. Certainly wouldn't be embarrassed to tell a future employer that.
 
2012-03-20 11:59:26 AM  

brigid_fitch: Aar1012: cman: How the fark is this even legal to begin with?

I'm betting some Farker with a job in HR will give some excuse that'll justify this and will justify why he never hires anyone born after 1983.

I'm not in HR but I'm a recruiter. I don't think this is illegal since there's no LAW saying you can't disqualify someone from the hiring process because they won't give up a password. However, I still think it's unethical.

I will absolutely Google the hell out of candidates and if I find something controversial, like some crazy extremist views, countless pictures of their half-naked keg stands, or other objectionable pictures, I won't submit them to my clients. If they set their profile to private, then I have no business bullying them to see their info. In fact, kudos to them for having some brains to keep their personal life private. If their privacy setting is off, though, then they're fair game.

I've only ditched 2 candidates in the last 3 years because of Facebook. One was a crazy Bible-thumper who biatched on her Wall that she was "harassed" at her last job for simply talking about going to church or lamented the godlessness of her neighbors & coworkers. Yeah, I just bet you were "simply talking about church". Another had picture after picture of him speeding on his crotch-rocket (including shots of the speedometer), doing donuts in parking lots, and wheelies on the highway. Now, I don't care if you do that in your spare time but if you're stupid enough to post it AND not have privacy filters on, I don't want you working for me.


A picture of a speedometer of some guy doing donuts on a motorcycle has nothing to do with job qualifications and is taken far out of context.

Seriously, you are hurting the world.

You should be ashamed of your behavior.

Instead of making the world a better and safer place, you seem eager to make it a worse and less safe place.

Please stop hurting the world.
 
2012-03-20 12:00:43 PM  

RoyBatty: My facebook page discloses:

my age
my race
my marital status
my native language
that I have children
that I am Jewish
that I have a chronic illness
that I was never in the military
that I drink alchohol

I would think that if you access my facebook page and ask me to interview and deny me a job, you are opening yourself up to a discrimination lawsuit.

http://jobsearch.about.com/od/interviewsnetworking/a/illegalinterv.ht m
http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html


Came here to say something along these lines.
 
2012-03-20 12:01:38 PM  
Just make sure to throw up a few recent posts about your religious opinions, and if you don't get the job, sue them for religious discrimination.
 
2012-03-20 12:02:48 PM  

brigid_fitch: I will absolutely Google the hell out of candidates and if I find something controversial, like some crazy extremist views, countless pictures of their half-naked keg stands, or other objectionable pictures, I won't submit them to my clients.


I'm an avowed atheist and liberal and have that listed on my fb profile. I also post things that religious folks or conservatives might find objectionable. Nothing offensive, just challenging. Would you turn me down for positions based on that?
 
2012-03-20 12:03:56 PM  

SurfaceTension: brigid_fitch: I will absolutely Google the hell out of candidates and if I find something controversial, like some crazy extremist views, countless pictures of their half-naked keg stands, or other objectionable pictures, I won't submit them to my clients.

I'm an avowed atheist and liberal and have that listed on my fb profile. I also post things that religious folks or conservatives might find objectionable. Nothing offensive, just challenging. Would you turn me down for positions based on that?


I'd like to add this. Isn't disqualifying someone on the grounds of their religious views illegal?
 
2012-03-20 12:12:09 PM  
Think of it like this- if an HR drone can find embarassing pics/material of you, think of what the media can find if you say, injure or kill someone with a company vehicle or are described in a news story as being part of company after being charged with assualt/battery. The company doesn't want themselves associated with this sort of stuff (remote as it can be to be an issue) so some due diligence in spotting who might be the guy who shows up hungover and late every Friday or likes to brag about the last bar fight they were in might be a bad hire.
 
2012-03-20 12:12:55 PM  

brigid_fitch: namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

I don't have a Facebook account under my real name. If I'm ever asked, I'll just tell them I took a look at it, saw a bunch of games like Farmville & Mafia Wars, and decided it wasn't worth my time. Then I'll point them to my LinkedIn profile.

/Recruiter
//I don't ask for FB passwords and feel its wrong to do so. But I'll Google the hell out of you, so there be careful about your privacy settings & pictures you post.


Does that usually work? I guess I'm just lucky with having an pretty uncommon family name and several pretty accomplished professionals in their fields with the same name (unrelated). With all that clutter and good privacy setting awareness across sites, I've never been able to dig myself up on google with just my name.
 
2012-03-20 12:16:00 PM  

meat0918: SurfaceTension: brigid_fitch: I will absolutely Google the hell out of candidates and if I find something controversial, like some crazy extremist views, countless pictures of their half-naked keg stands, or other objectionable pictures, I won't submit them to my clients.

I'm an avowed atheist and liberal and have that listed on my fb profile. I also post things that religious folks or conservatives might find objectionable. Nothing offensive, just challenging. Would you turn me down for positions based on that?

I'd like to add this. Isn't disqualifying someone on the grounds of their religious views illegal?


first of all, does the company have to meet anti-discrimination standards. second, was that the reason why you were not hired.

that second part can be difficult and expensive to prove. especially if you are openly antagonistic.
 
2012-03-20 12:23:08 PM  

meat0918: SurfaceTension: brigid_fitch: I will absolutely Google the hell out of candidates and if I find something controversial, like some crazy extremist views, countless pictures of their half-naked keg stands, or other objectionable pictures, I won't submit them to my clients.

I'm an avowed atheist and liberal and have that listed on my fb profile. I also post things that religious folks or conservatives might find objectionable. Nothing offensive, just challenging. Would you turn me down for positions based on that?

I'd like to add this. Isn't disqualifying someone on the grounds of their religious views illegal?


Discriminating due to religious views is illegal, yes. But I didn't toss that one candidate because of her religious views. I tossed her because, based on her countless FB rantings, she more than likely was proselytizing at work. I don't even look at people's religious or political affiliation on their info page. I look at their statuses & pictures--things they thought were okay to post but obviously should have thought twice about.
 
2012-03-20 12:24:06 PM  

Fizpez: Post your birthday/religious affiliation/sexual preference in your info section then inform them they are not legally allowed to request that info.


Yeah, this. When someone hands you a big steaming pile of BS like asking for your Facebook login in a job interview, you pretty much have to turn things upside-down and hand the BS right back to them.

"So, you want to view/access my facebook profile? Something which (hypothetically) has my birthday, religion, sexual orientation, political beliefs openly listed? Perhaps you should call in someone from HR. We're about to have a serious discussion about Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
 
2012-03-20 12:26:56 PM  
I have some facebook friends who post endless derp on their pages. I have to admit I like the idea of that being thrown back in their faces and watch them squirm and backpeddle. NO JOB FOR YOU TEATARD LOL
 
2012-03-20 12:28:11 PM  

brigid_fitch: meat0918: SurfaceTension: brigid_fitch: I will absolutely Google the hell out of candidates and if I find something controversial, like some crazy extremist views, countless pictures of their half-naked keg stands, or other objectionable pictures, I won't submit them to my clients.

I'm an avowed atheist and liberal and have that listed on my fb profile. I also post things that religious folks or conservatives might find objectionable. Nothing offensive, just challenging. Would you turn me down for positions based on that?

I'd like to add this. Isn't disqualifying someone on the grounds of their religious views illegal?

Discriminating due to religious views is illegal, yes. But I didn't toss that one candidate because of her religious views. I tossed her because, based on her countless FB rantings, she more than likely was proselytizing at work. I don't even look at people's religious or political affiliation on their info page. I look at their statuses & pictures--things they thought were okay to post but obviously should have thought twice about.


I have to be honest, I'd thank you for dropping that person.

If there is one thing I cannot stand, it is workplace proselytizers.

I have an entire album of pictures, not of me, but random internet stuff. that would probably get me fired, but everything I have is set to private.

I had my profile so locked down a while back, nothing was getting to even my friends.

But you know what is driving me off of Facebook? That it shares my comments I've made on other people's posts to people without my knowledge. Supposedly you can stop this, but I haven't seen how.

//Facebook makes friends into strangers.
//And fark Pintrest.
 
2012-03-20 12:28:58 PM  
So lets say Jimmy X gets an interview

Jimmy X gets hired despite the few photos of him drinking. Turns out Jimmy X has a drinking problem and results in him being "let go".

Jimmy could then sue for wrongful dismisal as the company knew about his drinking problem and should have helped him treat it, not fire him. Easy victory in the courts.
 
2012-03-20 12:32:07 PM  

poisonedpawn78: So lets say Jimmy X gets an interview

Jimmy X gets hired despite the few photos of him drinking. Turns out Jimmy X has a drinking problem and results in him being "let go".

Jimmy could then sue for wrongful dismisal as the company knew about his drinking problem and should have helped him treat it, not fire him. Easy victory in the courts.


The company would offer treatment options and paid time off before said firing or if Jimmy were fired for, say,gross negligence because of said drinking. And showing up intoxicated in some professions is grounds for immediate termination in many fields. No easy court victory for Jimmy X, he cannot has.
 
2012-03-20 12:32:40 PM  

Shostie: Flint Ironstag: How easy is it to have two Facebook pages, two Twitter accounts and two email accounts? One for all your friends and their gang/drug/donkey raping activities and one for your parents, elderly family and work?

I don't have facebook but I have email with my own domain, a Googlemail account and a Yahoo account. If asked I could hand over my Yahoo account and just not mention my own domain.

Once everyone wises up to this and sets up a safe dummy account that talks about little but bible study, night school and helping out at a non-profit then this will be nothing but a charade and the only people caught out are people too stupid to realise they need to set up a dummy account.

I think the point here is that we shouldn't HAVE to hand over our login and password to our potential employers.


True - also, I'd ask that question. If anyone is stupid enough to give their username/password to someone they barely know (i.e. me) they shouldn't be trusted enough to be allowed on my network.
 
2012-03-20 12:34:35 PM  
Some slides clipped from a recent lecture I did

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All exhibits from a recent report by Microsoft.
 
2012-03-20 12:35:26 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: poisonedpawn78: So lets say Jimmy X gets an interview

Jimmy X gets hired despite the few photos of him drinking. Turns out Jimmy X has a drinking problem and results in him being "let go".

Jimmy could then sue for wrongful dismisal as the company knew about his drinking problem and should have helped him treat it, not fire him. Easy victory in the courts.

The company would offer treatment options and paid time off before said firing or if Jimmy were fired for, say,gross negligence because of said drinking. And showing up intoxicated in some professions is grounds for immediate termination in many fields. No easy court victory for Jimmy X, he cannot has.


I dunno about the US laws specifically, but in Canada even if the company DIDNT Know about a drinking problem and you show up to work completely blitzed. you cannot be fired. They HAVE to offer treatment options. MANY companies have tried to straight up fire employees in this situation and EVERY ONE loses the court case.
 
2012-03-20 12:38:26 PM  

Gotfire: I have some facebook friends who post endless derp on their pages. I have to admit I like the idea of that being thrown back in their faces and watch them squirm and backpeddle. NO JOB FOR YOU TEATARD LOL


So you would like to see people refused jobs because of their political affiliation?
 
2012-03-20 12:39:03 PM  

Zeno-25: I don't ask for FB passwords and feel its wrong to do so. But I'll Google the hell out of you, so there be careful about your privacy settings & pictures you post.

Does that usually work? I guess I'm just lucky with having an pretty uncommon family name and several pretty accomplished professionals in their fields with the same name (unrelated). With all that clutter and good privacy setting awareness across sites, I've never been able to dig myself up on google with just my name.


I have pretty good Google-fu so can usually find someone. Even if your name is John Smith, I have your resume with your address, phone #, and at least 10 years of work history. That's a LOT of info to work with. One girl had a really common name in a large city and I was still able to find her 2007 embezzlement charge from a small, local paper.

Just to clarify, though, I don't Google EVERY resume I get. I review the resume and, if I like it, I'll phone-screen a candidate. I only Google them if they do well on the phone-screen, to decide whether it's worth pulling them in for a face-to-face interview w/me. And even if I find something that might be an issue, if they did REALLY well on the phone-screen, I'll ask them to explain. That girl w/the embezzlement charge? She was an AMAZING candidate, so I gave her a shot. Turns out she was asked by her supervisor to approve purchase orders, even though she wasn't authorized to do so. But, her boss told her to do it and she did. Turns out, boss was using company purchase orders to buy personal stuff & pay her car lease, so the girl was indicted, too. Boss was charged w/larceny and a host of other stuff & the girl plea-bargained to embezzlement to avoid jail time.

The job was just a secretary for a small company, no handling of money involved, so I explained her situation to the client. Client also agreed to at least talk to her and eventually hired her.
 
2012-03-20 12:39:34 PM  
oh hey, and here's the keys to my house as well
 
2012-03-20 12:45:22 PM  

gilgigamesh: I overheard a couple of college girls having a conversation about how they vet people they meet and it chilled me to the bone. Basically, they both agreed that when they meet someone they are interested in knowing better the first thing they do is check their facebook page and if they feel like the person doesn't have enough personal information, pictures and current updates, they feel the person is probably "hiding something", like they are probably a "child molester or something" (these are direct quotes), and they will break off contact.
Needless to say I found this chilling as I don't have a facebook page at all. That was the day I realized the world has pretty much passed me by.
Meh.


Or I don't wanna be friends with someone who insists I have FB friends. Remember, snowflakes, FB is a fad. This too shall pass, like WordStar.
 
2012-03-20 12:48:24 PM  

poisonedpawn78: Ken VeryBigLiar: poisonedpawn78: So lets say Jimmy X gets an interview

Jimmy X gets hired despite the few photos of him drinking. Turns out Jimmy X has a drinking problem and results in him being "let go".

Jimmy could then sue for wrongful dismisal as the company knew about his drinking problem and should have helped him treat it, not fire him. Easy victory in the courts.

The company would offer treatment options and paid time off before said firing or if Jimmy were fired for, say,gross negligence because of said drinking. And showing up intoxicated in some professions is grounds for immediate termination in many fields. No easy court victory for Jimmy X, he cannot has.

I dunno about the US laws specifically, but in Canada even if the company DIDNT Know about a drinking problem and you show up to work completely blitzed. you cannot be fired. They HAVE to offer treatment options. MANY companies have tried to straight up fire employees in this situation and EVERY ONE loses the court case.


Some US states have what's called "at-will employment" which means you can effectively be fired for anything at any time*. Most companies also have specific termination clauses in their Company Conduct or Employee Handbook that you must sign before starting employment, one of which is almost always intoxication or drug/alcohol use at work.

*To avoid lawsuits, usually this isn't done on the very first instance, though, unless the cause is something like fighting or really serious. If it's just tardiness, dress code, or making a mistake, the typical process is: 1st time=verbal warning. 2nd time=written warning w/notice that if behavior continues, it COULD lead to termination. 3rd time=final warning w/same notice of termination OR, if the behavior is egregious, bye-bye--you got warned what could happen last time you did this. 4th time=definite bye-bye.

/Unless there are unions involved, then all bets are off
 
2012-03-20 12:50:37 PM  

max_pooper: namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

Whenever anyone asks me why I don't have a facebook account I tell them: "Because I'm an adult."


I'm sorry, your obviously not a social person, and will not likely be a good team player. Thank you for applying, we promise to be in touch, but you'll never hear from us again.
 
2012-03-20 12:50:43 PM  

namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?


Keep two FB accounts. One that is stupidly lame but searchable, like a picture of your cat and whether you are male or female. The other one locked down and private.
 
2012-03-20 12:50:50 PM  

nopokerface: cman: How the fark is this even legal to begin with?

The better question is, how is this discrimination?


Only dumb people do dumb things and put it on facebook and/or Youtube.

/didn't think the article mentioned discrimination though...
 
2012-03-20 12:51:55 PM  

YixilTesiphon: So you would like to see people refused jobs because of their political affiliation?


If that affiliation certifies them as unhinged, bigoted, and derptacular? Yes.
 
2012-03-20 12:51:56 PM  
HOT HR Girl: This concludes the interview all I'd need is your Facebook UN & PW for references
ME: You can have my password after I get your bra
HOT HR Girl: Thank you we'll be in touch
ME: Does this mean I don't get your bra?
HOT HR Girl: SECURITY!
 
2012-03-20 12:57:28 PM  

BigBooper: max_pooper: namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

Whenever anyone asks me why I don't have a facebook account I tell them: "Because I'm an adult."

I'm sorry, your obviously not a social person, and will not likely be a good team player. Thank you for applying, we promise to be in touch, but you'll never hear from us again.


Since you base hiring on facebook instead of work history, resume and references chances are I would have never even interviewed with your shiatty company since you probably only hire dumbasses at way below my pay grade.
 
2012-03-20 01:07:31 PM  
CSS:

Two years ago I saw a job on CL (lots of Real estate companies and developers in NYC advertise openings on CL) and applied. It was for a medium-sized company. I really knew nothing about the job, just what was posted on CL. This was for a Director of Marketing position for a six figure salary.

I took a half day off and went to the interview. They had me waiting there for an hour and wanted me to fill out these PAGES and PAGES of paperwork (background check, etc - they also had me write my resume 3 different times on 3 different forms for no apparent reason). I mean, the stuff they were asking me could fill a book. It was very off putting considering I knew nothing about the job yet.

After an hour of this paperwork I still hadn't finished but I felt it was really a waste of time. Then this guy came and asked for my paperwork. I explained to him that I was under the impresson that since this job was only posted on CL, that this was an informational interview, where I could learn what the position required. If we agreed that I might be a good fit I would be happy to sign off on any paperwork or background checks necessary and go from there.

"This is for HR" he said. I restated my position. Again, I knew nothing about the job! Why would I give someone all this info?

The guy went spastic and told me to leave. Mind you, I wasn't applying to be a janitor, but for a directorship position, and I was already employed. I understand the need for background checks and such, but the amount of information they wanted (where I went to elementary school?) was ridiculous for a job I wasn't even sure I was interested in. I was dumbfounded and got my things to go. However, he still had my half-finished paperwork in his hand, including a lot of my personal information and he was leaving the office with it. I took the file from his hand calmly and explained that since I wouldn't be considered for the interview, I'd appreciate my private information back. He refused to give it to me. And re-stated my position about my personal information.

He then invited me to his office. I thanked him, thinking "finally, we'll talk about the position". I walked in, and he threw my paperwork in the shredder. "See? Now we are both happy." He said.

I couldn't believe the balls on this guy. I wrote very professional letters concerning their "HR policies" and this man's behavior to all the heads of the company and the CEO called and offered another interview. I told him that while I appreciate the offer, I didn't think I would be happy there and looked forward to working with them in the future. Keep it professional, you know?

I realize if I were unemployed I might be more willing to give that guy what he wanted, but I'd rather keep my dignity than get a raise.
 
2012-03-20 01:13:48 PM  
"Why don't you have a Facebook page?"

"Fark you. I have enough friends."
 
2012-03-20 01:20:45 PM  

namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?


"I was on facebook years ago, but ever since they let anyone and everyone join, and not just people with a .edu email address, I quickly lost interest as the quality of the site went drastically downhill."
 
2012-03-20 01:21:15 PM  

namegoeshere: nopokerface: namegoeshere: So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

FB is for morons?

The real answer is somewhere between I value my privacy and I am so farking sick of this global TMI shiat we have going on these days and I don't give a flying rat's ass if Little Jimmy got a karate trophy or Little Suzie got an A on her science test, because they're not my damn kids! It would alienate me from my friends because I would insult them by never responding to their posts about what they had for dinner last night because I DON'T CARE! And a whole big heap of shiat like THIS in TFA.

But that answer might make make me look a little... unfriendly... so I'm still looking for an appropriate explanation.


I thought up a few I would use if I was ever asked this.

1) " I value what little privacy I have." (Like you said)

2) " I have a stalker ex girlfriend/boyfriend and I try to keep a low of a profile as I can"
 
2012-03-20 01:29:43 PM  

Shostie: Flint Ironstag: How easy is it to have two Facebook pages, two Twitter accounts and two email accounts? One for all your friends and their gang/drug/donkey raping activities and one for your parents, elderly family and work?

I don't have facebook but I have email with my own domain, a Googlemail account and a Yahoo account. If asked I could hand over my Yahoo account and just not mention my own domain.

Once everyone wises up to this and sets up a safe dummy account that talks about little but bible study, night school and helping out at a non-profit then this will be nothing but a charade and the only people caught out are people too stupid to realise they need to set up a dummy account.

I think the point here is that we shouldn't HAVE to hand over our login and password to our potential employers.


You do know you can change your passwords (and should regularly anyhow) for your email and facebook accounts. This isn't hard and foils their smartass little plans of being a spai.

sure you can have my log-on details...for the next five minutes or less. *gets on smartphone after leaving interview and changes PW*

good luck chuckleheads.
 
2012-03-20 01:31:44 PM  

TDBoedy: Shostie: Flint Ironstag: How easy is it to have two Facebook pages, two Twitter accounts and two email accounts? One for all your friends and their gang/drug/donkey raping activities and one for your parents, elderly family and work?

I don't have facebook but I have email with my own domain, a Googlemail account and a Yahoo account. If asked I could hand over my Yahoo account and just not mention my own domain.

Once everyone wises up to this and sets up a safe dummy account that talks about little but bible study, night school and helping out at a non-profit then this will be nothing but a charade and the only people caught out are people too stupid to realise they need to set up a dummy account.

I think the point here is that we shouldn't HAVE to hand over our login and password to our potential employers.

You do know you can change your passwords (and should regularly anyhow) for your email and facebook accounts. This isn't hard and foils their smartass little plans of being a spai.

sure you can have my log-on details...for the next five minutes or less. *gets on smartphone after leaving interview and changes PW*

good luck chuckleheads.


i think it would be funnier if they changed your password
 
2012-03-20 01:32:35 PM  

Recoil Therapy: Chief Deputy Rusty Thomas defended the practice, saying applicants have a right to refuse. But no one has ever done so. Thomas said that "speaks well of the people we have apply."

I'm sure that you think so you pious authoritarian jerk. You're looking for the type of person who'll blindly follow orders & not give a damn about privacy rights/concerns. The type where declining a request to search your vehicle will be viewed as probable cause of a law being broken (even though the SC said that it isn't, but hey it isn't your money that will be paid out in the inevitable lawsuit...). The type who thinks that standing up for yourself is seen as something suspicious & worthy of a beat down. Sadly this is more & more the norm these days.


Judging from the fact that he works/lives in McLean county he probably thinks he should have keys to everyone's houses, you know, just in case. Authortarian doesn't even begin to describe any of the cops down there.

/fark the police in McLean county
 
2012-03-20 01:33:45 PM  

This Looks Fun: namegoeshere: Hmmm... Off to Google myself...

If you Google yourself with your other hand, it feels like someone else is doing it.

/Not mine.


Or you sit on your hand first until it falls asleep, that works good too. Not that I have ever done such things.
 
2012-03-20 01:35:36 PM  
The Maryland department of corrections was asking for Facebook logins for an employee trying to return after a leave of absence, he proceeded to file a complaint with the ACLU and MD has suspended the policy while they probably investigate if it's against the law or not...
 
2012-03-20 01:36:10 PM  

Aar1012: cman: How the fark is this even legal to begin with?

I'm betting some Farker with a job in HR will give some excuse that'll justify this and will justify why he never hires anyone born after 1983.

nopokerface: I saw a news story where they said Spring Break was going to be more tame because kids were now aware that all the crazy sh*t they did would end up on the interwebs, and negatively impact their future careers.

Have they ever even met an 18-22 year old?

The interviewers will joke and tell them about the crazy shiat THEY did at the age (which is far worse than the kids they're interviewing) and then deny them the job.


Aren't you one of the guys arguing with me about a month ago that this never happens and companies would never be allowed access to potential hires private lives?

I said then that this shiat is coming, there have been companies asking for a listing of our pages, luckily I had seen this crap coming and had everyone watch what they posted and allowed to be posted. The owners thanked me after a client hires us after some damaging words written on a friends wall by one of their facebook friends.

Nothing should go on Facebook that would ever bring embarrassment to you, family, friends, or even work from any job past or present.
 
2012-03-20 01:36:51 PM  

nopokerface: cman: How the fark is this even legal to begin with?

The better question is, how is this discrimination?



lh4.googleusercontent.com

Its in their future; I see...lawsuits
 
2012-03-20 01:37:59 PM  
It seems clear to me that the HR people are digging around to find out your age, religion, political leanings, and sexual orientation. Three of those things are flat out illegal to ask.

I have friends who are on both sides of the hiring equation and get the impression that HR is deluged with so many resumes that they have to make up head games to find excuses not to hire someone.
 
2012-03-20 01:38:09 PM  

max_pooper: namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

Whenever anyone asks me why I don't have a facebook account I tell them: "Because I'm an adult."


LoL I told my sister(she's older) that a few weeks ago, I just don't see the point.of putting stuff like that out for the world to see.
 
2012-03-20 01:40:55 PM  

meat0918: And that's when I end the interview.

"Have a nice day sir, madam, but I do not divulge such information, and I am fairly certain it would violate employment discrimination laws if you used such information in your hiring practices"

Seriously employers, you are opening yourself up for a lawsuit here.


I shiat you not, the people who ask for it will say its a public posting space and as such they are entitled to any defamatory or critical messages.

That is actually part of an email I got back after being asked for all of our pages with links.
 
2012-03-20 01:44:20 PM  

BillCo: What's a "Faceook"?

Only an idiot would post personal information online.



Its a form of spyware that the government and corporations uses to perform surveilance on people. In the old days, they had to hire spies and place bugs and rustle through people's garbage.

But now, people have been fooled into spying on themselves.

Aldous Huxley was more accurate than George Orwell.
 
2012-03-20 01:44:24 PM  

steamingpile: max_pooper: namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

Whenever anyone asks me why I don't have a facebook account I tell them: "Because I'm an adult."

LoL I told my sister(she's older) that a few weeks ago, I just don't see the point.of putting stuff like that out for the world to see.


My main problem with facebook is not how I use facebook but how others use it. They can't seem to understand I don't want every photo I've ever been in on the internet. I have 1 night out partying in months, and the next morning there's a full history of the night online. I find it very disrespectful. Some people say "Oh, we won't tag you!" but the fact of the matter is, it is online. And I don't want it online. I don't understand why some people can't appreciate that.
 
2012-03-20 01:48:16 PM  
I must be the best hire ever.

No Facebook--because I'm an adult (and a secret perv).
No smartphone with apps--don't need one or want to pay for one.
Dummy email account for contests and personal emails away from my public life.
False information for my FARK login.
Completely invisible in Google searches.
No Linkedin account--I have a job that doesn't require "networking" and "public visibility" and "being nice to strangers".

I hate all this social media crap--except venting here on FARK. Beats having to talk to the wife.
 
2012-03-20 01:50:55 PM  

D135: oh hey, and here's the keys to my house as well


And the PIN for my debit card, would they like that as well? You know, so they can investigate all the financial transactions I've ever done.
 
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