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BillCo		2012-03-20 08:26:24 AM

I went to a boxing match one time and a hockey game broke out.

browneye		2012-03-20 08:57:43 AM

Well......that was dumb.

fruitloop		2012-03-20 08:58:00 AM

I'm trying to hear the farking song!

rudemix		2012-03-20 09:03:30 AM

I have always liked how the announcers segue from calling hockey to fights so smoothly. Most other sports announcers vocalize some form of disapproval or contempt "Guys going at it like that, that isn't baseball, Tim!" In hockey it's almost the opposite of that.

Klitch		2012-03-20 09:08:03 AM

I enjoy fighting in hockey as much as the next guy as long as it happens in the run of play and there is a reason for it. This sort of shenanigan will be the reason that fighting is completely banned by next season. The fights themselves were good, had they happened during the run of play I'd be alright with it but just to send guys out there to fight at the beginning of the game is beyond ridiculous.

/Devils fan
//Pete DeBoer, is a dummy for sending out that line the way he did
///Rags still won't make it out of the first round

Lor M. Ipsum		2012-03-20 09:08:21 AM

Holy shiat. I'm not watching enough hockey.

GAT_00		2012-03-20 09:09:58 AM

That didn't seem planned at all.

MugzyBrown		2012-03-20 09:10:25 AM

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever seen and I'm a hockey fan.

MugzyBrown		2012-03-20 09:11:29 AM

By the way, all 6 players should have been ejected for that idiocy.

Lost Thought 00		2012-03-20 09:16:35 AM

So what is the backstory? Some particularly bad blood between the teams, or was this more of the hockey version of a flashmob?

haterade		2012-03-20 09:19:52 AM

MugzyBrown: By the way, all 6 players should have been ejected for that idiocracy.

i.qkme.me

Crewmannumber6		2012-03-20 09:26:44 AM

That was some shiatty hockey fighting.

/Marty McSorley, where are you when we need you?

Klitch		2012-03-20 09:28:22 AM

Lost Thought 00: So what is the backstory? Some particularly bad blood between the teams, or was this more of the hockey version of a flashmob?

The bad blood is mostly because of proximity, their stadiums are 5 miles apart, but there are several other factors.

The Rangers haven't had a contending team since they won the cup in '94, this year they may have a shot so they're extra plucky.
Meanwhile since '94 the Devils have won 3 cups and have been to another finals.

For the most part though the teams just don't like one another. it's a culmination of things rather than one event that gets one side pissed.

TonnageVT		2012-03-20 09:34:34 AM

Klitch: I enjoy fighting in hockey as much as the next guy as long as it happens in the run of play and there is a reason for it. This sort of shenanigan will be the reason that fighting is completely banned by next season. The fights themselves were good, had they happened during the run of play I'd be alright with it but just to send guys out there to fight at the beginning of the game is beyond ridiculous.

/Devils fan
//Pete DeBoer, is a dummy for sending out that line the way he did
///Rags still won't make it out of the first round

As a Devils fan, I completely agree. Fights don't set the tempo for the game. The rags went onto score a minute later, and the Devils looked flat for most of the game.

Devils need to start attacking off the bat. Last night's display was awful. Giving the puck away way too easily in the defensive and neutral zones killed us.

The other problem is lack of shooting. Devils had only 6 shots on goal in the 3rd period, and there were many times when they could have taken the shot and hoped for a rebound, but instead chose to pass, which was broken up more often than not.

They played like a team comfortable with their position in standing, but with that effort last night, they wouldn't have even been able to beat the Leafs.

Wise_Guy		2012-03-20 09:36:44 AM

bigpeeler		2012-03-20 09:40:16 AM

See that, NBA? That's a mans sports.

TonnageVT		2012-03-20 09:40:32 AM

Wise_Guy: If Tortorella would have sent out his first line instead of countering with his tough guys, would DeBoer have switched out his line?

Tortarella did send out his first line initally. DeBoer sent out his tough guys. Tortarella was visibly pissed at him for doing this. Since the rags had the last line change, he had to send out his tough guys to counter.

HallasHell		2012-03-20 09:41:35 AM

If Tortorella would have sent out his first line instead of countering with his tough guys, would DeBoer have switched out his line?

It's actually the away team, in this case the Devils, who puts out their line combo first. The home team then puts out a line based on what they see from the opponent.

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick		2012-03-20 09:43:44 AM

Who cares? They fought, it's over, nobody got killed.

There is violence in hockey. If you don't like it, watch something more in-line with your delicate sensibilities.

MugzyBrown		2012-03-20 09:44:09 AM

he had to send out his tough guys to counter.

No he didn't.

He could have sent out his first line and tried to score.

Fighting doesn't make sense. If they want to fight, let them drop their gloves and get a penalty, you just skate away to the powerplay.

HallasHell		2012-03-20 09:44:23 AM

I don't think DeBoer would just back down from a "fight" like that. That would be showing weakness. Plus perhaps you can't change out your line once they get sent out there? Not sure if that's a rule, but could be possible.

BenJammin		2012-03-20 09:45:04 AM

No one under 18 shall be admitted.

Yanks_RSJ		2012-03-20 09:46:03 AM

Thanks for the wakeup call, DeBoer. The Rangers had been playing flat hockey for two weeks, all they needed was an excuse to have Stu Bickel split someone's face open.

Klitch		2012-03-20 09:49:09 AM

Wise_Guy: Klitch: I enjoy fighting in hockey as much as the next guy as long as it happens in the run of play and there is a reason for it. This sort of shenanigan will be the reason that fighting is completely banned by next season. The fights themselves were good, had they happened during the run of play I'd be alright with it but just to send guys out there to fight at the beginning of the game is beyond ridiculous.

/Devils fan
//Pete DeBoer, is a dummy for sending out that line the way he did
///Rags still won't make it out of the first round

If Tortorella would have sent out his first line instead of countering with his tough guys, would DeBoer have switched out his line?

I doubt it, that's why I say it was DeBoer's fault because the devils had to send their line out first. I can't believe I'm gonna defend torterella, but DeBoer gave him no choice by sending out jannsen carter and boulton.

either way I like the Devils in the 6 spot facing florida would be a good first round matchup for us.

gorgon1912		2012-03-20 09:50:06 AM

Hockey fights arent going to be banned anytime soon, but they will continue to be attacked due to the planned fights bs like this. And yes the devils can still play like that and beat the leafs, no worries there.

Yanks_RSJ		2012-03-20 09:50:14 AM

MugzyBrown: No he didn't.

He could have sent out his first line and tried to score.

That would be stupid, sending his first line out there against the Devils goon squad is a death wish.

TonnageVT		2012-03-20 09:51:27 AM

MugzyBrown: No he didn't.

He could have sent out his first line and tried to score.

Or had his players get crushed or injured? Something tells me you don't watch a lot of hockey.

fatalvenom		2012-03-20 09:52:37 AM

Pfffft.....amateurs (new window)

Crewmannumber6		2012-03-20 09:55:53 AM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Who cares? They fought, it's over, nobody got killed.

There is violence in hockey. If you don't like it, watch something more in-line with your delicate sensibilities.

I'm not offended by the fighting. I'm offended by the quality of the fighting
This is how you do it
Link (Hey man, nice shot.)

MugzyBrown		2012-03-20 09:57:11 AM

That would be stupid, sending his first line out there against the Devils goon squad is a death wish.

Give me skilled players against unskilled players every day of the week.

Or had his players get crushed or injured? Something tells me you don't watch a lot of hockey.

This doesn't happen and hasn't happened in 25 years in hockey.

So every time the Devils put out their first line, the Rangers could have countered with the checking line and "crushed" the Devils skilled players?

I watch a lot of hockey and have never seen a team use this brilliant tactic. A visiting team would never win, all of their skilled guys are crushed by the big, slow, unskilled goons.

Galloping Galoshes		2012-03-20 10:00:19 AM

TonnageVT: Wise_Guy: If Tortorella would have sent out his first line instead of countering with his tough guys, would DeBoer have switched out his line?

Tortarella did send out his first line initally. DeBoer sent out his tough guys. Tortarella was visibly pissed at him for doing this. Since the rags had the last line change, he had to send out his tough guys to counter.

No, you have to hand in your starting lineup before the game, and any change gets you a bench minor. Visiting team hands in first so the home team can react, Torts saw what the Devils had planned and reacted appropriately. The Devils had fights planned all along, so Torts could let his skilled guys go and get killed, or send out the meat.

FreakinB		2012-03-20 10:01:20 AM

Yanks_RSJ		2012-03-20 10:03:24 AM

MugzyBrown: So every time the Devils put out their first line, the Rangers could have countered with the checking line and "crushed" the Devils skilled players?

I watch a lot of hockey and have never seen a team use this brilliant tactic. A visiting team would never win, all of their skilled guys are crushed by the big, slow, unskilled goons.

It's not a tactic you'd use over the course of an entire game, but perhaps to set a physical tone during the first shift. Let me ask you this, what other reason could DeBoer have possibly had for starting the group he did?

For the record, I don't have a problem with him doing that. The Rangers did exactly what they should have in response.

By the way, "checking line" does not equal "goons".

Bruce Campbell		2012-03-20 10:03:43 AM

MugzyBrown: If they want to fight, let them drop their gloves and get a penalty, you just skate away to the powerplay.

Steve Moore disagrees with you on this point.

Crewmannumber6		2012-03-20 10:03:52 AM

fatalvenom: Pfffft.....amateurs (new window)

Warriors Code by Dropkick Murphys? I'm a pudgy 52 year old man and when I hear that I want fight somebody!

MugzyBrown		2012-03-20 10:06:29 AM

Regardless of what your stance is on fighting in hockey, you have to realize that sending out your stars with the other team's goons is a monumentally bad idea. I'm as big of a Rangers hater as there is and even I wouldn't want to see that.

Please tell me how you invision this?

The game starts, the Devils drop their gloves.. and what? Nothing, the Rangers skill guys skate away.

How are the Rangers skill guys going to get killed? Let them run around trying to hit your guys, they'll just be out of possition or get penalties.

There is no enforcement anymore in the NHL. It's a joke.

Instigator A roughly hits player B, so player C & D fight. oooh big deal.. look there's no more cheap shots in the NHL anymore.

Donnchadha		2012-03-20 10:10:08 AM

fruitloop: I'm trying to hear the farking song!

Oh, the good old hockey game, is the best game you can name.
And the best game you can name, is the good old hockey game!

Theaetetus		2012-03-20 10:11:55 AM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: There is violence in professional hockey. If you don't like it, watch something more in-line with your delicate sensibilities.

FTFY. And I'd rather watch college hockey, y'know, where they actually skate, pass, and shoot... also known as playing hockey. What you want is boxing on ice.

FreakinB		2012-03-20 10:12:07 AM

MugzyBrown: Regardless of what your stance is on fighting in hockey, you have to realize that sending out your stars with the other team's goons is a monumentally bad idea. I'm as big of a Rangers hater as there is and even I wouldn't want to see that.

Please tell me how you invision this?

The game starts, the Devils drop their gloves.. and what? Nothing, the Rangers skill guys skate away.

How are the Rangers skill guys going to get killed? Let them run around trying to hit your guys, they'll just be out of possition or get penalties.

I'm not sure that's how it will go. But on the flip side, how are you so sure it's to going exactly the way you say? You have cold guys going out at the very start of the game against a bunch of guys who are either going to try to drop the gloves or try to hit the shiat out of your guys. Sure you could score, but it's more risk than you'd like. And besides, you have guys on your team to counter it.

Ceiling Moran		2012-03-20 10:12:08 AM

What a bunch of pucktards.

Ceiling Moran		2012-03-20 10:13:27 AM

Crewmannumber6: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Who cares? They fought, it's over, nobody got killed.

There is violence in hockey. If you don't like it, watch something more in-line with your delicate sensibilities.

I'm not offended by the fighting. I'm offended by the quality of the fighting
This is how you do it
Link (Hey man, nice shot.)

NIN clone.

hosalabad		2012-03-20 10:14:36 AM

What a shiatty sport. Just play the game.

MugzyBrown		2012-03-20 10:15:47 AM

I'm not sure that's how it will go. But on the flip side, how are you so sure it's to going exactly the way you say? You have cold guys going out at the very start of the game against a bunch of guys who are either going to try to drop the gloves or try to hit the shiat out of your guys. Sure you could score, but it's more risk than you'd like. And besides, you have guys on your team to counter it.

If the whole game was played between the Devils 4th line and the Rangers 1st line, who would win 10-0?

So, if I have an unskilled team, I can just put on the ice 3 fighters all game and the other team will be forced to keep their skilled guys on the bench?

What makes hockey so special as it's the only sport that needs enforcers?

The Patriots have started the game with Brandon Spikes at QB, because the Steelers have their tough defense on the field. You don't want to get Brady killed!

Crewmannumber6		2012-03-20 10:16:18 AM

Ceiling Moran: Crewmannumber6: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Who cares? They fought, it's over, nobody got killed.

There is violence in hockey. If you don't like it, watch something more in-line with your delicate sensibilities.

I'm not offended by the fighting. I'm offended by the quality of the fighting
This is how you do it
Link (Hey man, nice shot.)

NIN clone.

BFD, still the perfect song for that clip.

fatalvenom: Pfffft.....amateurs (new window)

When the announcer yelled 'He's giving him the noogies!' I laughed.

Klitch		2012-03-20 10:19:04 AM

ya know what, just read this from Pete Deboer:

"I guess in John's world you can come into our building and start your tough guys, but we can't do the same here," DeBoer told reporters. "He's either got short-term memory loss or he's a hypocrite."

I didn't realize he was reacting to something that happened in the last game. it's still a move that helped ignite your opponent so ultimately it was stupid, but in hindsight it may be less stupid.

Witchyman		2012-03-20 10:21:54 AM

It's not real until they are in the stands beating people with shoes.

FreakinB		2012-03-20 10:22:36 AM

MugzyBrown: I'm not sure that's how it will go. But on the flip side, how are you so sure it's to going exactly the way you say? You have cold guys going out at the very start of the game against a bunch of guys who are either going to try to drop the gloves or try to hit the shiat out of your guys. Sure you could score, but it's more risk than you'd like. And besides, you have guys on your team to counter it.

If the whole game was played between the Devils 4th line and the Rangers 1st line, who would win 10-0?

So, if I have an unskilled team, I can just put on the ice 3 fighters all game and the other team will be forced to keep their skilled guys on the bench?

What makes hockey so special as it's the only sport that needs enforcers?

The Patriots have started the game with Brandon Spikes at QB, because the Steelers have their tough defense on the field. You don't want to get Brady killed!

Tom Brady doesn't need to come off the field to save his energy. There's a reason why hockey has shifts and football doesn't. You can't just leave a guy out there for every play in hockey. It wouldn't be long until he had nothing left. And the guys behind the top guys aren't going to be as skilled, so they have to contribute in other ways.

As for a team of all tough guys, I mean, if you want to give your team a glaring weakness then by all means.

Crewmannumber6		2012-03-20 10:23:41 AM

MugzyBrown		2012-03-20 10:29:07 AM

FreakinB: Tom Brady doesn't need to come off the field to save his energy. There's a reason why hockey has shifts and football doesn't. You can't just leave a guy out there for every play in hockey. It wouldn't be long until he had nothing left. And the guys behind the top guys aren't going to be as skilled, so they have to contribute in other ways.

So now they had to counter with their 4th line to save the energy of the 1st line, not so the first line wouldn't get "crushed".

As for a team of all tough guys, I mean, if you want to give your team a glaring weakness then by all means.

It's not a weakness... the Rangers would have been NUTS to let their skilled guys go against a 4th line team. So a team full of 4th liners apparently destroy a skilled team.

tdunning		2012-03-20 10:34:26 AM

TonnageVT: Klitch: I enjoy fighting in hockey as much as the next guy as long as it happens in the run of play and there is a reason for it. This sort of shenanigan will be the reason that fighting is completely banned by next season. The fights themselves were good, had they happened during the run of play I'd be alright with it but just to send guys out there to fight at the beginning of the game is beyond ridiculous.

/Devils fan
//Pete DeBoer, is a dummy for sending out that line the way he did
///Rags still won't make it out of the first round

As a Devils fan, I completely agree. Fights don't set the tempo for the game. The rags went onto score a minute later, and the Devils looked flat for most of the game.

Devils need to start attacking off the bat. Last night's display was awful. Giving the puck away way too easily in the defensive and neutral zones killed us.

The other problem is lack of shooting. Devils had only 6 shots on goal in the 3rd period, and there were many times when they could have taken the shot and hoped for a rebound, but instead chose to pass, which was broken up more often than not.

They played like a team comfortable with their position in standing, but with that effort last night, they wouldn't have even been able to beat the Leafs.

You know how I know you didn't watch the Leafs game last night?

You think the Leafs could win a hockey game

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