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(The Daily Beast)   "I'm not homophobic, some of my best friends used to be gay before coming to their senses. Hey, would you like a chunk of my birthday sandwich?"   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 274
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2012-03-20 12:09:00 PM

DubyaHater:
Remember, these are the same people that believe homosexuals chose to be gay. Let me repeat that, they believe homosexuality is a choice. These people honestly believe that any one of you could choose to be gay tomorrow, regardless of whether you are attracted to the same sex.


Well crap. There goes my contingency plan if women died out from some horrible plague.
 
2012-03-20 12:09:33 PM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: thamike: ciberido: Yeah, I noticed that. Was that a complete non sequitur, apropos of nothing, or was Cameron on some level joking about (or even threatening) the publicist beating up the reporter?

Maybe it was nothing. But a bit eerie, given the situation.

That's the point. He has absolutely no idea how insensitive he is. Conservatives like him laugh at the thought of beating up queers. They have absolutely no idea why a queer wouldn't also find that aside absolutely charming and hilarious. This is what comes from having no education and living in a vacuum. Watch any conservative comedian or Fox n' Friends flunky. They have this "we're all in on my joke" way of delivering faceplant, dead hate as punchline.

You said "queer" twice.


Someone needs to kick that queer in the teeth, amirite?
 
2012-03-20 12:11:27 PM
You're not allowed to be late to all your interviews and then biatch and complain that they "misrepresent" what you say. You're working on their format, not your own, since it is their medium, not yours. You know the drill with interviews, or at least you should at this point. This should be second nature to you.

That book you keep talking about? THAT's the medium that you should be using to give your longwinded, hate-filled diatribes. Not the talk circuit.
 
2012-03-20 12:12:21 PM
Five... five dollar... five dollar foot long...

/Kirk isn't singing about a sandwich
 
2012-03-20 12:13:36 PM

Smackledorfer: Cythraul: Nah, he's not homophobic. He just thinks that homosexuality is "unnatural," and "detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."

That doesn't sound homophobic at all!

See, those are just his convictions. HE isn't the hater, god is. And because he listens to god, he is better than those homos, and those who don't hold the convictions that they will destroy the foundations of civilization as we know it.

I didn't finish the article, does he ever explain what foundations of civilization are going to be destroyed by teh gays? I would really love to see one of these twerps get specific. I'm sick and tired of generalities and wishy-washy mumblings about this and that. Surely at least one of these morons has thought it through one step further and has specifics.


He has convictions. He doesn't need to think it through any further than that. All of his questions have already been answered.
 
2012-03-20 12:13:55 PM

xanadian: I never saw the whole interview that caused such a stir. What I read in TFA didn't seem particularly inflammatory. People are free to believe what they believe. That he wouldn't condemn his own son if he came out is heartening.

Eh. I can't seem to get worked up in a lather over this today...


Well, it's different when it's your own. Every hate-fill sack of shiat suddenly becomes a pillar of understanding when it's someone they know personally and already have attachments to.

If he had said that about random strangers on the street instead of then turning around and calling them unnatural and whatever other hate-filled vernacular he uses, then you might have a case.
 
2012-03-20 12:15:09 PM

victrin: Kirk Cameron doesn't think



FTFY
 
2012-03-20 12:16:16 PM
Not sure if it's been done yet, but:



"You never heard of the Seavers?"

"Uh, campfire stories - men gone savage on the edge of space, killing... "

www.browncoats.com

"They're not stories."


images.buddytv.com

"What happens if they board us?"

i.ytimg.com

"If they take the ship they will rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins in to their clothing, and if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order."
 
2012-03-20 12:17:03 PM

PonceAlyosha: You can't claim you love someone and attempt to deny them their civil rights.


Bears repeating.
 
2012-03-20 12:19:02 PM
Kirk Cameron: "What I'm saying is, when we turn off the tape recorder and you and I want to sit down and have a meal together and we want to have a talk, I'd welcome that... What I love is to sit down and have conversations about our convictions without calling people names... If you and I could talk later over a steak, that would be cool."

Translation: "I want to set the record straight, but not any place there could be a record."
 
2012-03-20 12:21:23 PM

Andrew Wiggin: i'm not racist, i just think black people are destroying civilization.

/and the chinese pee in our cokes


It was just a joke.

/gosh
 
2012-03-20 12:22:44 PM

Theaetetus: Kirk Cameron: "What I'm saying is, when we turn off the tape recorder and you and I want to sit down and have a meal together and we want to have a talk, I'd welcome that... What I love is to sit down and have conversations about our convictions without calling people names... If you and I could talk later over a steak, that would be cool."

Translation: "I want to set the record straight, but not any place there could be a record."


And preferably, a place with candlelight and soft romantic music.
 
2012-03-20 12:23:51 PM
Rurouni: It's his opinion and he's entitled to it just like everyone else.

But again, who cares? He doesn't like gays, who cares? Can we move on with our lives now?


I believe that the act of you having sex in your bedroom with an adult is completely unnatural, and you and said adult are destroying the very foundations of civilization with each and every thrust. I feel sorry for the children you and your spouse may raise together, and I will do everything in my power to make it as difficult as possible for you to live your life on your own terms.

I have no idea who you are, but this is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it. I have convictions, unlike you.

Who cares what I think anyway? Can we move on with our lives now? I'm not a hateful person, I just have an opinion, just like everyone else! Sha na na na!
 
2012-03-20 12:25:45 PM
I can't help but like the guy after that article. It is nice to see a full transcript for once rather than 10 second blips and edited content.
 
2012-03-20 12:26:39 PM

Shakespeare's Monkey: FTFA: I was surprised on a couple of levels, yes. [Pauses.] I was surprised that people acted surprised by what I said.


Did he really say that? Holy fark.

Was anyone suprised by Kirk Cameron, Captain Banana-Hand's feelings on Gay Marriage?

I take it, Capt. Cameron is unfamiliar with the concept of sarcasm, perhaps?
 
2012-03-20 12:27:12 PM
"some of my best friends..."

immediately thought this was about mittens

/disappointed
 
2012-03-20 12:27:24 PM

kukukupo: I can't help but like the guy after that article. It is nice to see a full transcript for once rather than 10 second blips and edited content.


Well it's pretty clear those two had something click. It just sucks that all these uber closeted/uber afraid they're actually closeted dudes feel the need to perpetuate the conditions that make them uncomfortable with their urges/fear of urges.
 
2012-03-20 12:27:30 PM
The My Little Pony Killer Smartest
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2012-03-20 12:17:03 PM


PonceAlyosha: You can't claim you love someone and attempt to deny them their civil rights
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That's a nice sounding line, but what about putting people in jail? There are Christian groups who write to prisoners regularly, offer friendship and comfort, and help them out in many ways, without condoning the actual crime. My mom does this shiat. She's for allowing gay marriage but still believes they're all going to hell. She'll pray for everyone.
 
2012-03-20 12:28:13 PM

Smackledorfer: Ignorance because he is believing it while doing his best to shut out any possibility he is wrong.


Hmmm. That sounds kind of like an atheist. Look, he's a born-again Christian and a meat puppet. So he's got double the dose of the "I'm so important, everyone cares and God tells me I'm right" thing going on. Only he can change that. You see, many pro-gay people are just as bad as the homophobes. They KNOW they are right and everyone who doesn't agree with them 100% is wrong. Any challenge to their (usually uneducated) point of view is met with righteous indignation and emotionalism. One side is as bad as the other.

I prefer not to have religion about homosexuality. I'm a live and let live kind of a guy. Let's let gay people live in peace and dignity. But I'm sick of the politicization of sexuality. I see it heading down the same road as feminism traveled: transforming from a fundamental movement to educate and enlightened to a political system that pits people against people.

Bottom line: Kirk Cameron is a washed up actor and nothing more. What he thinks about any issue should not upset anyone. Hell, it shouldn't even grab our attention for more than a couple of minutes. I know what Cameron doesn't know: homosexuals have always been with us and the foundation of civilization hasn't cracked yet. His statement was beyond uninformed. Why should I pay attention to him any further?
 
2012-03-20 12:30:09 PM

Itsluautime: Rurouni: It's his opinion and he's entitled to it just like everyone else.

But again, who cares? He doesn't like gays, who cares? Can we move on with our lives now?

I believe that the act of you having sex in your bedroom with an adult is completely unnatural, and you and said adult are destroying the very foundations of civilization with each and every thrust. I feel sorry for the children you and your spouse may raise together, and I will do everything in my power to make it as difficult as possible for you to live your life on your own terms.

I have no idea who you are, but this is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it. I have convictions, unlike you.

Who cares what I think anyway? Can we move on with our lives now? I'm not a hateful person, I just have an opinion, just like everyone else! Sha na na na!


And if you try to defend yourself against my political and verbal attacks, I'll cry persecution, because convictions.
 
2012-03-20 12:31:55 PM

Andrew Wiggin: remember...if you are hooked on porn, trash your monitor. (new window)


Wouldn't it have been cheaper just to click the X and close the box? Just sayin'
 
2012-03-20 12:32:35 PM
Cythraul

Nah, he's not homophobic. He just thinks that homosexuality is "unnatural," and "detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."

That doesn't sound homophobic at all!

ohhh nooo someone believes something I don't believe. Burn them!!!

Party of "tolerance" my ass.
 
2012-03-20 12:33:44 PM

jackandwater: Andrew Wiggin: remember...if you are hooked on porn, trash your monitor. (new window)

Wouldn't it have been cheaper just to click the X and close the box? Just sayin'


Little does he know, that pop-up was never intended to lead him to a porn site. His computer is riddled with malware from when he was "addicted" to... acting like a man with access to the internet.

/adblock plus is your friend, Kirk
 
2012-03-20 12:36:08 PM

JackieRabbit: Bottom line: Kirk Cameron is a washed up actor and nothing more. What he thinks about any issue should not upset anyone.


Is anyone actually "upset" about Kirk Cameron's views on Gay marriage?

It never ceases to amaze me how many people confuse mockery with anger or fear.
 
2012-03-20 12:36:54 PM

OnlyM3: ohhh nooo someone believes something I don't believe. Burn them!!!

Party of "tolerance" my ass.


Ahahahaha "You're the real bigot because you don't like bigots!"

That one never gets old.
 
2012-03-20 12:37:08 PM

JackieRabbit: One side is as bad as the other.


Yes. I often hear about homos beating straight people to death for being straight and attempting to pass laws to deny them their civil rights.
 
2012-03-20 12:39:39 PM

D135: "some of my best friends..."

immediately thought this was about mittens

/disappointed


www.washingtonpost.com

"Some of my best friends own gay people."

/better?
 
2012-03-20 12:40:48 PM

OnlyM3: Cythraul

Nah, he's not homophobic. He just thinks that homosexuality is "unnatural," and "detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."

That doesn't sound homophobic at all!
ohhh nooo someone believes something I don't believe. Burn them!!!

Party of "tolerance" my ass.


I wonder if you look at other groups of people who have been victimized by larger majorities with power due to bigotry and fear and say to the victims who protest, "How dare you not respect their beliefs!"
 
2012-03-20 12:42:20 PM

OnlyM3: ohhh nooo someone believes something I don't believe. Burn them!!!

Party of "tolerance" my ass.


I guess you missed the Matt Shepard link upthread.
 
2012-03-20 12:43:22 PM

The Homer Tax: JackieRabbit: Bottom line: Kirk Cameron is a washed up actor and nothing more. What he thinks about any issue should not upset anyone.

Is anyone actually "upset" about Kirk Cameron's views on Gay marriage?

It never ceases to amaze me how many people confuse mockery with anger or fear.


You really haven't read much of this thread. Several people are upset. Any homophobic comment upsets a lot of people.
 
2012-03-20 12:44:22 PM

dready zim: [www.thedailybeast.com image 503x335]

His forehead is unnatural and will be the cause of the destruction of civilisation through sheer mass and gravitational collapse.

Also he looks gay.


Is it just me or does he look like NPH in that pic?
What I'd really love is for NPH to get all judgemental and say homosexuality is wrong, he's been wrong all these years, he's been born again, etc. All on national TV. Then wrap it up by saying "The only positive thing about homosexuality is the buttsex."
 
2012-03-20 12:45:15 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: PonceAlyosha: You can't claim you love someone and attempt to deny them their civil rights.

Bears repeating.


well... I love my wife and she loves me, but she denies my civil rights on a daily basis. If argument or wrongdoing is suspected, she denies my right of free speech (truth is not a defense), due process and equal protection.

/ of course, sorry for the snark.
// the civil right to marry and adopt is significant and I support the fight for those rights. I also support making gender/sexuality a suspect class for anti-discrimination crime purposes
 
2012-03-20 12:46:21 PM

pute kisses like a man: The My Little Pony Killer: PonceAlyosha: You can't claim you love someone and attempt to deny them their civil rights.

Bears repeating.

well... I love my wife and she loves me, but she denies my civil rights on a daily basis. If argument or wrongdoing is suspected, she denies my right of free speech (truth is not a defense), due process and equal protection.

/ of course, sorry for the snark.
// the civil right to marry and adopt is significant and I support the fight for those rights. I also support making gender/sexuality a suspect class for anti-discrimination crime purposes


editing failure. I was going to comment on bias crimes, but then I omitted that part, but I accidentally left the word crime in there.
 
2012-03-20 12:46:34 PM
Why do people care about the opinions of a has been child actor?
 
2012-03-20 12:47:53 PM
Really? People actually give a shiat what Kirk Cameron said on Piers Morgan's show? I can't think of any two people less relevant to anything.

God you gays are so sensitive. You know what? There will ALWAYS be people who don't like you. Every once in a while, maybe STFU for a minute and people will ignore the thing you've got your panties in a wad over.
 
2012-03-20 12:50:11 PM

stuffy: Why do people care about the opinions of a has been child actor?


As has been said repeatedly--Because said opinions are shared by powerful people in elected government and--if you hadn't noticed--it's an ongoing contentious political issue.
 
2012-03-20 12:51:40 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Really? People actually give a shiat what Kirk Cameron said on Piers Morgan's show? I can't think of any two people less relevant to anything.

God you gays are so sensitive. You know what? There will ALWAYS be people who don't like you. Every once in a while, maybe STFU for a minute and people will ignore the thing you've got your panties in a wad over.


Who cares about this guy's opinion? He's not even a has-been actor. Let's just stop talking about it, right?
 
2012-03-20 12:51:45 PM

The Homer Tax: JackieRabbit: Bottom line: Kirk Cameron is a washed up actor and nothing more. What he thinks about any issue should not upset anyone.

Is anyone actually "upset" about Kirk Cameron's views on Gay marriage?

It never ceases to amaze me how many people confuse mockery with anger or fear.


You sound kirkaphobic
 
2012-03-20 12:53:15 PM

JackieRabbit: You really haven't read much of this thread. Several people are upset. Any homophobic comment upsets a lot of people.


I read the thread just fine and feel like you are mis-characterizing the tone of the discussion in an attempt to generate a straw-man.

We're talking about the guy who made a video saying that Bananas are evidence of God and support for creationism. I assure you, he's being mocked.
 
2012-03-20 12:53:27 PM

Headso: wildcat2011: Of course, we'll have to let all the pedophiles out of prison

they're not there for thought crime, they are there for diddling children against their will.

/just sayin


But, but they were born that way. You need to learn to accept them and embrace them.

/Of course I'd keep my kids away from them if I were you
 
2012-03-20 12:55:31 PM
i8.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-20 12:59:07 PM
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2012-03-20 12:36:54 PM


OnlyM3: ohhh nooo someone believes something I don't believe. Burn them!!!

Party of "tolerance" my ass.

Ahahahaha "You're the real bigot because you don't like bigots!"

That one never gets old.


So "bigots" are a kind of people now? So a person who believes ethnic groups have various traits endemic to that group, they can all be lumped into one category now? Racist or bigot.
And, once identified as such, you can dismiss all opinions of these "bigots", because they have proven, with their distasteful world view, that they are less intelligent, and less of a person than you.

How enlightened of you.
 
2012-03-20 01:00:41 PM
You got in wrong! You see when he said that all homosexuals were sick, he meant the sick were all homosexuals! Two completely different things!

There goes the liberal media again taking what he's saying out of context again.
 
2012-03-20 01:01:01 PM

Andrew Wiggin: remember...if you are hooked on porn, trash your monitor. (new window)


Do I have to go back to 1998 and buy a giant CRT monitor like that one?
 
2012-03-20 01:03:50 PM
So natural is now based on what just ~5% of people do or like? This will not end well.
 
2012-03-20 01:04:42 PM

doubled99: So "bigots" are a kind of people now?


Generally, they are the kind of people who are intolerant based on an obstinately ignorant devotion to prejudice. That's a kind of people, I guess.
 
2012-03-20 01:10:33 PM

DubyaHater: These people honestly believe that any one of you could choose to be gay tomorrow, regardless of whether you are attracted to the same sex.


What do they say when you note they choose their religion?
 
2012-03-20 01:11:39 PM

Cythraul: Hah! In this interview he spoke about his previous interview, in regards to how it was edited down and presented in a unflattering light, "I thought it was insensitive. I thought it was heartless."

This guy has a lot of nerve to say something like that after claiming homosexuality was 'destructive to the foundations of civilization.'


Awww u mad bro, because he's right? Take an objective look at all past civilizations and if you have an open mind you'll come to the same conclusion. Oops, I forgot I was talking to libtards that deny facts.
 
2012-03-20 01:12:01 PM
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2012-03-20 01:04:42 PM


doubled99: So "bigots" are a kind of people now?

Generally, they are the kind of people who are intolerant based on an obstinately ignorant devotion to prejudice. That's a kind of people, I guess




So, like, Republicans and Democrats, then.
 
2012-03-20 01:12:23 PM

Mearen: Cythraul: Hah! In this interview he spoke about his previous interview, in regards to how it was edited down and presented in a unflattering light, "I thought it was insensitive. I thought it was heartless."

This guy has a lot of nerve to say something like that after claiming homosexuality was 'destructive to the foundations of civilization.'

Awww u mad bro, because he's right? Take an objective look at all past civilizations and if you have an open mind you'll come to the same conclusion. Oops, I forgot I was talking to libtards that deny facts.


0/10. Try harder.
 
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