Why couldn't he have been the one found dead in a park instead of his buddy Boner?

FTFA: I was surprised on a couple of levels, yes. [Pauses.] I was surprised that people acted surprised by what I said.

Well spoken Kirk, just like the clueless idiot you are.



Would definitely like a bite of his sandwich, IYKWIM.

/_{Hot, like a nice steamy sauna.}

It's obvious Kirk was trying to be very nice and understanding during this interview. He didn't actually apologize for being a douche, but he came very very close... It's definitely more than I was expecting from him.

He kept talking about wanting to take the guy out for a steak though, and that was a bit creepy.

/he was probably all out of birthday sandwich

I wonder what Alan Thicke thinks? Oh wait no one cares because he still has a career.

(What is it with America and her washed up child stars?)

The larger question we need to be asking: "Why do the opinions of a washed up teen heartthrob whose sole contribution to entertainment are a series of stunningly bad Christian movies merit this level of attention?"

Via Infinito: He kept talking about wanting to take the guy out for a steak though, and that was a bit creepy

Heh. I'm on page two of this interview thinking to myself, "Why does Kirk Cameron keep asking this reporter out on a date?"

Nah, he's not homophobic. He just thinks that homosexuality is "unnatural," and "detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."

That doesn't sound homophobic at all!

I never saw the whole interview that caused such a stir. What I read in TFA didn't seem particularly inflammatory. People are free to believe what they believe. That he wouldn't condemn his own son if he came out is heartening.

Eh. I can't seem to get worked up in a lather over this today...

Hah! In this interview he spoke about his previous interview, in regards to how it was edited down and presented in a unflattering light, "I thought it was insensitive. I thought it was heartless."

This guy has a lot of nerve to say something like that after claiming homosexuality was 'destructive to the foundations of civilization.'

xanadian: I never saw the whole interview that caused such a stir. What I read in TFA didn't seem particularly inflammatory. People are free to believe what they believe. That he wouldn't condemn his own son if he came out is heartening.

Eh. I can't seem to get worked up in a lather over this today...

Saying gays are destructive to the foundations of civilization isn't inflammatory to you?

Cythraul: Nah, he's not homophobic. He just thinks that homosexuality is "unnatural," and "detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."

That doesn't sound homophobic at all!

It's not necessarily homophobic. It is, however, ignorant. Selfishness, greed and sloth do a lot more damage to civilization than who you sex up. Also, Jesus never said word one about being gay. You have maybe 1 or 2 passages from St. Paul on the subject, and 1 or 2 passages out of Leviticus. Now, being gay back then would've been a detriment to ancient Hebrew (or any) civilization, because it's kind of hard to take over and populate a chunk of land if all your guys are buttsecksing each other instead of making babies. Today? With the world approaching 7 BILLION (say it like Carl Sagan, people!) people, buttsecksing is a godsend.

And homosexuality *is* natural, since it happens with other animals in the wild. "Unusual" would be a better (but not perfect) way to put it, since it happens in only a minority of cases. And then there's the whole Kinsey scale.

Can't find the right words today. My brain is full of fark for some reason. I think I need more coffee.

Cythraul: xanadian: I never saw the whole interview that caused such a stir. What I read in TFA didn't seem particularly inflammatory. People are free to believe what they believe. That he wouldn't condemn his own son if he came out is heartening.

Eh. I can't seem to get worked up in a lather over this today...

Saying gays are destructive to the foundations of civilization isn't inflammatory to you?

That was from the Piers Morgan TV interview, which I did not see. I'm talking about the interview in TFA.

Also, like I said, I need more coffee to get my RAWR on. Just can't get worked up today for some reason.

I still stand by my argument that his statement was more ignorant and unenlightened than anything else. I've seen "homophobic," where people will shout slurs at you or spit at you or threaten you. I'm sure other gay people have seen even worse. Granted, being a celebrity puts more weight behind his unenlightened statement and gives the real homophobes more ammunition. But he's free to believe whatever he wants, and I'm free to believe he's a moron.

xanadian: Cythraul: Nah, he's not homophobic. He just thinks that homosexuality is "unnatural," and "detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."

That doesn't sound homophobic at all!

It's not necessarily homophobic. It is, however, ignorant. Selfishness, greed and sloth do a lot more damage to civilization than who you sex up. Also, Jesus never said word one about being gay. You have maybe 1 or 2 passages from St. Paul on the subject, and 1 or 2 passages out of Leviticus. Now, being gay back then would've been a detriment to ancient Hebrew (or any) civilization, because it's kind of hard to take over and populate a chunk of land if all your guys are buttsecksing each other instead of making babies. Today? With the world approaching 7 BILLION (say it like Carl Sagan, people!) people, buttsecksing is a godsend.

And homosexuality *is* natural, since it happens with other animals in the wild. "Unusual" would be a better (but not perfect) way to put it, since it happens in only a minority of cases. And then there's the whole Kinsey scale.

Can't find the right words today. My brain is full of fark for some reason. I think I need more coffee.

Jesus actually said this:

* Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Verse 3)
* Blessed are the meek: for they shall possess the land. (Verse 4)
* Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted. (Verse 5)
* Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill. (Verse 6)
* Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Verse 7)
* Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. (Verse 8)
* Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Verse 9)
* Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Verse 10)

And Vonnegut said this:

"For some reason, the most vocal Christians among us never mention the Beatitudes (Matthew 5). But, often with tears in their eyes, the demand that the Ten Commandments be posted in public buildings. And of course, that's Moses, not Jesus. I haven't heard one of them demand that the Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes, be posted anywhere.
"Blessed are the merciful" in a courtroom? "Blessed are the peacemakers" in the Pentagon? Give me a break!"

I love how it ended on the something even more wharrgarble. I've tried to parse it out and it still makes zero sense:

What do you think about Occupy Wall Street?Everybody taking things in their own hands? I don't want that. I don't want to take everything in my own hands. I want a good and loving God who made the world to show us the way for everybody.

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Jesus actually said this:

* Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Verse 3)
* Blessed are the meek: for they shall possess the land. (Verse 4)
* Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted. (Verse 5)
* Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill. (Verse 6)
* Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Verse 7)
* Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. (Verse 8)
* Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Verse 9)
* Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Verse 10)

And Vonnegut said this:

"For some reason, the most vocal Christians among us never mention the Beatitudes (Matthew 5). But, often with tears in their eyes, the demand that the Ten Commandments be posted in public buildings. And of course, that's Moses, not Jesus. I haven't heard one of them demand that the Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes, be posted anywhere.
"Blessed are the merciful" in a courtroom? "Blessed are the peacemakers" in the Pentagon? Give me a break!"

Jesus also said a lot about preachers and hypocrites, too.

stpauler: I love how it ended on the something even more wharrgarble. I've tried to parse it out and it still makes zero sense:

What do you think about Occupy Wall Street?Everybody taking things in their own hands? I don't want that. I don't want to take everything in my own hands. I want a good and loving God who made the world to show us the way for everybody.

Yeah...the guy's a certified moron.

xanadian: I still stand by my argument that his statement was more ignorant and unenlightened than anything else. I've seen "homophobic," where people will shout slurs at you or spit at you or threaten you. I'm sure other gay people have seen even worse. Granted, being a celebrity puts more weight behind his unenlightened statement and gives the real homophobes more ammunition. But he's free to believe whatever he wants, and I'm free to believe he's a moron.

Ignorant and unenlightened? Well, yeah. Aren't most if not all bigoted and homophobic statements ignorant and unenlightened?

Let me put it to you like this. "Black people are destructive to the foundations of civilization."

Is that statement ignorant, bigoted, or is it both?

From the TFA:

And then as the kids got older, we never watched a lot of TV. We got DVDs of Finding Nemo and Little House on the Prairie. They think Fred Mertz is far funnier than Mike Seaver.

We all do. We all do.

Cythraul: xanadian: I still stand by my argument that his statement was more ignorant and unenlightened than anything else. I've seen "homophobic," where people will shout slurs at you or spit at you or threaten you. I'm sure other gay people have seen even worse. Granted, being a celebrity puts more weight behind his unenlightened statement and gives the real homophobes more ammunition. But he's free to believe whatever he wants, and I'm free to believe he's a moron.

Ignorant and unenlightened? Well, yeah. Aren't most if not all bigoted and homophobic statements ignorant and unenlightened?

Let me put it to you like this. "Black people are destructive to the foundations of civilization."

Is that statement ignorant, bigoted, or is it both?

It's pretty accurate, if you ask me...

*flees thread*

/no, but you have a point
//just in my mind, "homophobic" people tend to be a bit more ...zealous...in their bigotry
///kind of like you can have a guy who says "I don't like black people," then a guy who says "LET'S LYNCH US A BLACK GUY!!!"
////Mr. Cameron seems to be in the middle here

Still one of the saddest and most amusing photos I've ever seen.



/ fark him and his self-righteousness
// bigots who hide behind religion are the worst

So does a moderator have a farking hard on for Kirk Cameron?

Geesh, we get it. Move on

Publicist: I don't mean to interrupt. I think we've gone enough into it. The gay marriage, I just want to stay away from it. It's just so polarizing.

Cameron: He knows jujitsu. I didn't think we'd even talk this much about it, but you're really cool about the way you're asking all these questions.

This is why conservatives don't understand humor. They are completely unaware of themselves in the scheme of things. Cameron just implied a deserved ass-kicking to a homosexual for asking him his thoughts on gay marriage..

Rurouni: Can we move on with our lives now?

That would be nice, wouldn't it? I'm able to move on with my life completely freely. But I'm a straight white male.