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2012-03-19 09:19:32 PM  
Our local library has offered the Freegal service for quite some time now. It's pretty cool.
 
2012-03-19 09:26:09 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Our local library has offered the Freegal service for quite some time now. It's pretty cool.


Yep, we've had it for a while, too. Libraries have, unfortunately, missed the boat a bit - we have what people want, but no one seems to know it. And libraries don't seem to be getting that we have to get that message out there somehow.
 
2012-03-19 10:03:22 PM  
I remember before there WERE DVDs, video games, the internets, and free MP3s. When there were four TV channels total and we had to walk uphill both ways through 50' deep snow, which was ok, except for the ambushes by packs of rabid wolverines. And don't get me started on the mammoth poop on the snow trails.
 
2012-03-19 10:09:34 PM  

vossiewulf: I remember before there WERE DVDs, video games, the internets, and free MP3s. When there were four TV channels total and we had to walk uphill both ways through 50' deep snow, which was ok, except for the ambushes by packs of rabid wolverines. And don't get me started on the mammoth poop on the snow trails.


Four TV channels? Luxury!

We had two TV channels when I was growing up.
 
2012-03-19 10:14:53 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Bathia_Mapes: Our local library has offered the Freegal service for quite some time now. It's pretty cool.

Yep, we've had it for a while, too. Libraries have, unfortunately, missed the boat a bit - we have what people want, but no one seems to know it. And libraries don't seem to be getting that we have to get that message out there somehow.


Our library has a specific Freegal (new window) web page, but still there aren't very many people who seem to know about it.

As you said, libraries that offer the service need to make people more aware of its availability.
 
2012-03-19 10:16:57 PM  
Our local library does the full multimedia thing now, and it hasn't made a lot of difference, except to accelerate the shutdown of the local video rental stores by a tiny amount. They play movies in the lobby all day long, too, so the homeless people will have something to do.

They also purchased an electronic catalog system that, frankly, sucks. It's slow, returns terrible searches (if you run a title search on two different machines a few minutes apart, it gives different results), and has a terrible interface.
 
2012-03-19 10:18:08 PM  
My library has done this since movies were on VHS and music was on vynl. When I got my first CD player I tested it with a library CD because I didn't own one yet.

They deliver for free too.

/Orange county Florida (Orlando area)
 
2012-03-19 10:24:23 PM  
What's next, free porn? Heck, why DON"T they have a porn section at the public library. They can put it next to the free condom dispenser.

Actually, if you live in New York, watching porn at the public library is totally OK.

guy watching porn at the public library in new york
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http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/04/25/news/photos_stories/04201 1l ibrary3CR_revised084519--300x300.jpg (new window)
 
2012-03-19 10:35:21 PM  
www.popscreen.com

He remembers, joy boy.
 
2012-03-19 10:39:14 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: vossiewulf: I remember before there WERE DVDs, video games, the internets, and free MP3s. When there were four TV channels total and we had to walk uphill both ways through 50' deep snow, which was ok, except for the ambushes by packs of rabid wolverines. And don't get me started on the mammoth poop on the snow trails.

Four TV channels? Luxury!

We had two TV channels when I was growing up.


Yeah, but there's still only 8 channels total today. And that includes the Canuck one that we only get when the wind blows the right direction.
 
2012-03-19 10:44:41 PM  
Holy shiat you can get all sorts of free stuff at the library!!!!

/And all these years I've been paying $39.95 for books I could have "borrowed"
 
2012-03-19 10:46:51 PM  

Bhasayate: What's next, free porn? Heck, why DON"T they have a porn section at the public library. They can put it next to the free condom dispenser.

Actually, if you live in New York, watching porn at the public library is totally OK.

guy watching porn at the public library in new york
[www.nypost.com image 300x298]

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/04/25/news/photos_stories/04201 1l ibrary3CR_revised084519--300x300.jpg (new window)


Is the guy sitting behind Al Pacino playing Sim City?
 
2012-03-19 10:47:01 PM  

meyerkev: Bathia_Mapes: vossiewulf: I remember before there WERE DVDs, video games, the internets, and free MP3s. When there were four TV channels total and we had to walk uphill both ways through 50' deep snow, which was ok, except for the ambushes by packs of rabid wolverines. And don't get me started on the mammoth poop on the snow trails.

Four TV channels? Luxury!

We had two TV channels when I was growing up.

Yeah, but there's still only 8 channels total today. And that includes the Canuck one that we only get when the wind blows the right direction.


Right now I can get, without cable, ABC, CBS, NBC, OPB and a community access channel.

When I was a kid the two we got were channel 9 (ABC) and channel 13 (NBC). You couldn't get CBS at all unless you have a rooftop antenna to pick up the Portland CBS affiliate, KOIN (roughly 100 miles from where we lived), so the only time I saw shows like "Gunsmoke" and "My Favorite Martian" is if we visiting friends and family in Portland.

Then in the early 70s, channel 13 changed over being a CBS affiliate & it wasn't until 1978 that we got NBC again.
 
2012-03-19 10:48:19 PM  
When you say the internet do you mean 20 people updating their Facebook's, browsing dating sites, and gangs of kids playing online games bogging down the connection?
 
2012-03-19 10:54:14 PM  

Giltric: Bhasayate: What's next, free porn? Heck, why DON"T they have a porn section at the public library. They can put it next to the free condom dispenser.

Actually, if you live in New York, watching porn at the public library is totally OK.

guy watching porn at the public library in new york
[www.nypost.com image 300x298]

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/04/25/news/photos_stories/04201 1l ibrary3CR_revised084519--300x300.jpg (new window)

Is the guy sitting behind Al Pacino playing Sim City?


looks like. better, why isn't he also watching porn? i dunno
 
2012-03-19 10:55:52 PM  
When I was a kid we could borrow 8 mm films along with a projector from the library. My parents would hang a sheet and we'd have all the kids over on my birthday to watch Laurel and Hardy and the Little Rascals. Good times.

I'm not old, I swear. You lot are just young.

/my libido wanes
 
2012-03-19 11:01:17 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: vossiewulf: I remember before there WERE DVDs, video games, the internets, and free MP3s. When there were four TV channels total and we had to walk uphill both ways through 50' deep snow, which was ok, except for the ambushes by packs of rabid wolverines. And don't get me started on the mammoth poop on the snow trails.

Four TV channels? Luxury!

We had two TV channels when I was growing up.


Luxury!

We use to have to get out of the lake at 3 o'clock in the morning, clean the lake eat a handful of hot gravel, work 20 hours a day at mill for two pints a month, come home and our dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were lucky.
 
2012-03-19 11:06:10 PM  
Yeah, Freegal is okay buy my library offers free FLAC files (just check out a CD).
 
2012-03-19 11:12:11 PM  
Freegal is OK, the website could be a bit more easy to navigate and it'd be nice if they had artist other than those belonging to Sony. Still, free DRM music is always a plus and I use it to replace my music with higher quality mp3's in some cases. I use this (new window) to figure out what I'm going to get every week.
 
2012-03-19 11:12:59 PM  

wingnut396: Yeah, Freegal is okay buy my library offers free FLAC files (just check out a CD).


That too.
 
2012-03-19 11:34:12 PM  
In before the cries of socialism and freeloading poor people cutting into record company profits.
 
2012-03-19 11:45:00 PM  

cirby: Our local library does the full multimedia thing now, and it hasn't made a lot of difference, except to accelerate the shutdown of the local video rental stores by a tiny amount. They play movies in the lobby all day long, too, so the homeless people will have something to do.

They also purchased an electronic catalog system that, frankly, sucks. It's slow, returns terrible searches (if you run a title search on two different machines a few minutes apart, it gives different results), and has a terrible interface.


I'm surprised to hear that about the catalog - they must have done some wonky things to WebPac Pro to get that kind of drift. Generally, Innovative is known for its stability and reliability in data retrieval. Although, looking at their implementation of WebPac, I have to say - I can only imagine the crap they did to it to get that interface, which, yes, does indeed suck. I've never seen WebPac look like that.

They should upgrade to Encore. Same data in the tables, but a much better interface.
 
2012-03-20 12:09:26 AM  
I can check books out on my Kindle, and my Kindle returns them for me automatically if I'm neglectful.

Me likey.
 
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2012-03-20 12:36:12 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I can check books out on my Kindle, and my Kindle returns them for me automatically if I'm neglectful.

Me likey.


My wife hates that the disappear on the due date. Normally she could keep reading for another week and pay 30 cents in fines, but now they just go away and she has to get at the end of the line.

So now I've moved up (down?) to pirating books for her
 
2012-03-20 03:01:55 AM  
The internet is my library.

fusillade762: In before the cries of socialism and freeloading poor people cutting into record company profits.


That's about the thick of it, lacking any factual data as it may, that is the claim.
 
2012-03-20 03:56:31 AM  

Porktropolis: Bathia_Mapes: vossiewulf: I remember before there WERE DVDs, video games, the internets, and free MP3s. When there were four TV channels total and we had to walk uphill both ways through 50' deep snow, which was ok, except for the ambushes by packs of rabid wolverines. And don't get me started on the mammoth poop on the snow trails.

Four TV channels? Luxury!

We had two TV channels when I was growing up.

Luxury!

We use to have to get out of the lake at 3 o'clock in the morning, clean the lake eat a handful of hot gravel, work 20 hours a day at mill for two pints a month, come home and our dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were lucky.


Right...

I used to have to get up every morning to go to work half an hour after bed and work 28 hours and when we got home, our father would kill us and dance on our graves singing Hallelujah.
 
2012-03-20 05:40:14 AM  
Hmmm, audio books would be nice...

I used to borrow the ocassional dvd from the library until the freeloading visitors stole all the good ones.
 
2012-03-20 08:48:08 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: When I was a kid we could borrow 8 mm films along with a projector from the library. My parents would hang a sheet and we'd have all the kids over on my birthday to watch Laurel and Hardy and the Little Rascals. Good times.

I'm not old, I swear. You lot are just young.

/my libido wanes


Same here. I was a huge Little Rascals fan and eventually watched all of their 8 mm films our library had. The silent ones, anyway - our projector didn't have sound.

/also not old
//compared to some people
 
2012-03-20 09:15:52 AM  
Bhasayate:
guy watching porn at the public library in new york

Um... what's the point of watching dirty movies if you can't, you know, spackle the bishop? Not to mention, I think you have to have truly accepted your place on the margins of society if you are known as "the guy watching threesome porn at the library".
 
2012-03-20 11:33:41 AM  

No Such Agency: Um... what's the point of watching dirty movies if you can't, you know, spackle the bishop?


You assume they don't...
 
2012-03-20 02:55:02 PM  
I have been using Freegal for awhile now. Currently, I can download 7 songs a week. I also use my wife's library card for a total of 14 songs. I was not aware that it is only Sony artists. It must be subsidiaries as well because for me they have an incredible selection of music. I get blues like RL Burnside, Mississippi Fred McDowell, Robert Johnson and Son House. Country like Roger Miller, Deke Dickerson and Merle Haggard. I got Link Wray, Duane Eddy, The Sonics, Eddie Cochran, Carl Perkins, the Stray Cats. They have like 10 freaking GG Allin albums on there! That is amazing.
 
2012-03-20 03:06:04 PM  
Here's the problem....

Option A
I search a Torrent Site and, in seconds, I'm downloading the complete discography of whatever I wanted to hear.

Option B
I sign up for some online thing with the library. They may or may not have the songs I want to hear. If they do, there will be some retardly stupid DRM crap that only makes it trivial to copy the songs if I really wanted to. Then I have to deal with retarded concepts like 'digitally checking-in' the CD I've listened to. I'm sure there is some B.S. where you have to tie your online account to your library card too, which means having a library card and going to library at least once and setting it all up.

That's the reality of the situation. To change it you either need to make piracy a crime that is actually enforced to the point where regular people are afraid to download stuff, or you need to provide a service that is more appealing than piracy.
 
2012-03-20 08:27:54 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Here's the problem....

Option A
I search a Torrent Site and, in seconds, I'm downloading the complete discography of whatever I wanted to hear.

Option B
I sign up for some online thing with the library. They may or may not have the songs I want to hear. If they do, there will be some retardly stupid DRM crap that only makes it trivial to copy the songs if I really wanted to. Then I have to deal with retarded concepts like 'digitally checking-in' the CD I've listened to. I'm sure there is some B.S. where you have to tie your online account to your library card too, which means having a library card and going to library at least once and setting it all up.

That's the reality of the situation. To change it you either need to make piracy a crime that is actually enforced to the point where regular people are afraid to download stuff, or you need to provide a service that is more appealing than piracy.


Looks like someone didn't RTFA. There is no DRM. iTunes and Amazon ditched DRM a long time ago and many others have followed suit. Freegal is the same way: NO DRM. No "digitally checking in". You do need a library card, but really, you're going to complain about having to actually go out to the library ONCE to do it? Hell, maybe your local library lets you set one up online.

Quite frankly, you really shouldn't comment on the "reality" of the situation when you didn't even bother looking at the reality of the situation in the first place. This is a very nice alternative to piracy and really isn't that difficult to set up and use.
 
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