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(Think Progress)   New Hampshire house passes bill that mandates a 24-hour waiting period before an abortion and requires doctors to give women "informational materials" that erroneously link abortions to breast cancer   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 257
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2012-03-19 07:54:18 PM
And here I thought NH was supposed to be the libertarian state.
Then again, can't expect much from the state that doesn't even require a learner's permit.
 
2012-03-19 07:55:20 PM
If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go kill myself.
 
2012-03-19 07:58:29 PM
Remember in 2010, how the GOP got the JebusNuts out with gay marriage votes?

What do you think is going to happen this November in response to all the anti-reproduction rights nuttery going on right now?
 
2012-03-19 08:06:45 PM
Live free or die something something.
 
2012-03-19 08:08:28 PM
Oooo yea, you're a dirty chicken, aren't you? Oh yea, you love it. C'mon, who's a dirty chicken? You know you are,
 
2012-03-19 08:09:42 PM
I thought you wanted government in your healthcare?
 
2012-03-19 08:19:29 PM
I'm okay with this as long there are similar conditions for Viagra prescriptions.
 
2012-03-19 08:19:37 PM

bronyaur1: Remember in 2010, how the GOP got the JebusNuts out with gay marriage votes?

What do you think is going to happen this November in response to all the anti-reproduction rights nuttery going on right now?


I think people's irrational hate of Obama (you know, the black guy) and the out-and-out lies told about him and his record will override whatever batshiattery the GOP keeps doubling down on and it will be an extremely close election.
 
2012-03-19 08:36:33 PM
And here I thought the derp in the NH House would never become law. I was reassured of that, and chastised for connecting their isolated derp with the GOP as a whole.
 
2012-03-19 08:58:12 PM
So what...and, what's the hurry? Take a day and research it. Hell, I personally wouldn't chose abortion as a contraception. I kinda already know what causes babies to happen. But, whatever...knock yourself out. I'm payin' for it anyway...
 
2012-03-19 09:00:30 PM
The mandated waiting period is a good idea and I see nothing wrong with it. That being said, It'll be interesting to see how the erroneous abortion/breast cancer provision can withstand legal challenges with so many health organizations' research showing no such direct link.
 
2012-03-19 09:09:51 PM

basemetal: I thought you wanted government in your healthcare?



You misunderstood. I want government in YOUR healthcare. You know, for freedom.
 
2012-03-19 09:10:20 PM
Imposing a waiting period on constitutionally protected action? Imagine if they did this for other constitutional protected actions....oh wait.
 
2012-03-19 09:12:09 PM

Sumo Surfer: The mandated waiting period is a good idea and I see nothing wrong with it. That being said, It'll be interesting to see how the erroneous abortion/breast cancer provision can withstand legal challenges with so many health organizations' research showing no such direct link.


Don't let them get their foot in the door.
 
2012-03-19 09:12:32 PM

Sumo Surfer: The mandated waiting period is a good idea and I see nothing wrong with it. That being said, It'll be interesting to see how the erroneous abortion/breast cancer provision can withstand legal challenges with so many health organizations' research showing no such direct link.


I'm not sure a mandatory waiting period is a good idea in all cases. I'd imagine that a rape victim doesn't WANT to wait any longer than is medically necessary to get rid of the rape baby she's carrying.
 
2012-03-19 09:12:33 PM
Full term pregnancy and lactation have a protective effect when it comes to breast cancer. There is no argument about that from any side.

I don't believe anyone is saying that if you have an abortion you will get breast cancer, so I don't see the harm in providing information to women so they can make an informed choice.

After all it is their choice.
 
2012-03-19 09:12:52 PM
If you've ever experienced a woman's breasts before and after birth... well... let's just say I'm an ass man, and thank goodness for that.

/38D --> 38 long
 
2012-03-19 09:19:56 PM
What states are left in which there is parking in the white zone?
 
2012-03-19 09:21:04 PM

Marcus Aurelius: If you've ever experienced a woman's breasts before and after birth... well... let's just say I'm an ass man, and thank goodness for that.

/38D --> 38 long


Pig.
 
2012-03-19 09:22:14 PM
Point of order: there's a difference between "erroneous" and "knowingly false"

/this is an outright lie
 
2012-03-19 09:25:22 PM
The war on women continues. Women, you know you can vote this November right? They haven't taken that right away from you.....yet.
 
2012-03-19 09:27:51 PM

Chariset: I'm okay with this as long there are similar conditions for Viagra prescriptions.


Viagra wouldn't even exist without your shame caves.
 
2012-03-19 09:28:39 PM

dslfobia: So what...and, what's the hurry? Take a day and research it. Hell, I personally wouldn't chose abortion as a contraception. I kinda already know what causes babies to happen. But, whatever...knock yourself out. I'm payin' for it anyway...


And now you are payin' for two visits!
Still sound as fun?
 
2012-03-19 09:30:23 PM

Walker: The war on women continues. Women, you know you can vote this November right? They haven't taken that right away from you.....yet.


At this rate, that could change before November
 
2012-03-19 09:30:41 PM

Chariset: I'm okay with this as long there are similar conditions for Viagra prescriptions.


I'm OK with that. I think the original prescribing information required a diagosis of erectile dysfunction that was amenable to that class of drug and a psychological evaluation to rule out other causes.

It seems like it would be good medical practice to do that rather than just handing out pills because people ask for them.

Then again I own stock in Pfizer so what do I know.
 
2012-03-19 09:32:37 PM

Marcus Aurelius: 38 long


That is my suit size.
 
2012-03-19 09:33:50 PM

cman: Imposing a waiting period on constitutionally protected action? Imagine if they did this for other constitutional protected actions....oh wait.


I'm gonna guess you are going gun ownership here, and yea waiting for you new gun sucks, but it doesn't cost everyone else anything more for the second trip to the gun store.
 
2012-03-19 09:41:46 PM
The people passing these laws are not women, and not doctors or healthcare professionals.

The relationship between a doctor and patient is being tampered with by people who have no idea what they are doing.
 
2012-03-19 09:44:54 PM
Since no amount of added outrage on my part can make any particular, and all off the serious and witty comments on the ridiculousness of these bills have been made at this point, my only remaining question is: Does the RNC coordinate this in a memo it sends out to state legislatures, or do individual Republicans just watch the news and go "hey, that idea that's getting nothing but non-stop negative reactions from 65% of the country sounds awesome, we should try that here!"
 
2012-03-19 09:45:45 PM

vernonFL: The relationship between a doctor and patient is being tampered with by people who have no idea what they are doing.


But Obamacare!
 
2012-03-19 10:00:22 PM
It's almost as if a coordinated effort by an organization representing corporations and other private interests has been writing these laws and sending them out to the states, recently.

hm (new window)
 
2012-03-19 10:06:25 PM

Weaver95: I'm not sure a mandatory waiting period is a good idea in all cases. I'd imagine that a rape victim doesn't WANT to wait any longer than is medically necessary to get rid of the rape baby she's carrying.


That's a good point. Utah waives its waiting period in cases of rape (among other reasons), and I wouldn't be surprised if other states have similar exceptions.

AbbeySomeone: Don't let them get their foot in the door.


Meanwhile, my state has a three-day consent waiting period for vasectomies.

Life-changing procedures shouldn't be simplified to the point of looking at a menu and ordering takeout (forgive the pun).
 
2012-03-19 10:06:47 PM

Winning: vernonFL: The relationship between a doctor and patient is being tampered with by people who have no idea what they are doing.

But Obamacare!


Weird huh. It's almost as if these politicians are profiting from these laws they work so hard to pass.
 
2012-03-19 10:18:18 PM
It is unreal how many legislatures have gone crazy with female reproductive issues. What the hell is going on? Was there an after-school special I missed?
 
2012-03-19 10:19:32 PM

syrynxx: It is unreal how many legislatures have gone crazy with female reproductive issues. What the hell is going on? Was there an after-school special I missed?


Yeah. The moron masses elected Republicans.
 
2012-03-19 10:20:40 PM

syrynxx: It is unreal how many legislatures have gone crazy with female reproductive issues. What the hell is going on? Was there an after-school special I missed?


I suspect there's been some none too subtle coordination going on at the national level.
 
2012-03-19 10:23:21 PM

Weaver95: syrynxx: It is unreal how many legislatures have gone crazy with female reproductive issues. What the hell is going on? Was there an after-school special I missed?

I suspect there's been some none too subtle coordination going on at the national level.


It is easier to subvert a state government than the federal government.
 
2012-03-19 10:24:23 PM

GAT_00: syrynxx: It is unreal how many legislatures have gone crazy with female reproductive issues. What the hell is going on? Was there an after-school special I missed?

Yeah. The moron masses elected Republicans.


I think it has to deal with the fact that many on the right are perceiving a tremendous culture war and they are trying to push back. The rights of homosexuals have increased and they don't like it. Employers must cover birth control costs for insurance and they don't like it. Islam is gaining ground in America and they don't like it.

They perceive a war on christianity where one does not exist.
 
2012-03-19 10:30:39 PM

Sumo Surfer: Weaver95: I'm not sure a mandatory waiting period is a good idea in all cases. I'd imagine that a rape victim doesn't WANT to wait any longer than is medically necessary to get rid of the rape baby she's carrying.

That's a good point. Utah waives its waiting period in cases of rape (among other reasons), and I wouldn't be surprised if other states have similar exceptions.

AbbeySomeone: Don't let them get their foot in the door.

Meanwhile, my state has a three-day consent waiting period for vasectomies.

Life-changing procedures shouldn't be simplified to the point of looking at a menu and ordering takeout (forgive the pun).


Yes, because having a proceedure as serious as an abortion is an impulse buy. You know, there you are...walking down the street with your friends. You pass by a Planned Parenthood clinic and see the "ABORTIONS HALF OFF!" sign and think to yourself 'holy shiat, can't pass up a deal like that!'

farksake.
 
2012-03-19 10:34:43 PM

vernonFL: The people passing these laws are not women, and not doctors or healthcare professionals.

The relationship between a doctor and patient is being tampered with by people who have no idea what they are doing.



I may be going out on a limb here but I don't see an abortionist as an important member of one's healthcare team. I don't think the abortionist has the well being of all his patients foremost in his mind.
 
2012-03-19 10:36:55 PM
But remember, this is NOT a war on women.
 
2012-03-19 10:38:16 PM

Titor's Time Machine: Sumo Surfer: Weaver95: I'm not sure a mandatory waiting period is a good idea in all cases. I'd imagine that a rape victim doesn't WANT to wait any longer than is medically necessary to get rid of the rape baby she's carrying.

That's a good point. Utah waives its waiting period in cases of rape (among other reasons), and I wouldn't be surprised if other states have similar exceptions.

AbbeySomeone: Don't let them get their foot in the door.

Meanwhile, my state has a three-day consent waiting period for vasectomies.

Life-changing procedures shouldn't be simplified to the point of looking at a menu and ordering takeout (forgive the pun).

Yes, because having a proceedure as serious as an abortion is an impulse buy. You know, there you are...walking down the street with your friends. You pass by a Planned Parenthood clinic and see the "ABORTIONS HALF OFF!" sign and think to yourself 'holy shiat, can't pass up a deal like that!'

farksake.


I've had them just because they are buy one get one free. Stamp cards and sales are where it;s at. Getting knocked up and having my uterus invaded are fun ways to bond with my other irresponsible and unlucky friends.
 
2012-03-19 10:41:37 PM
The League of Women Voters (new window) have been around since 1920 and are dedicated to raising awareness about women's issues in politics. You can join for free and don't need lady parts to belong.

Unite Against The War on Women (new window)National Marches planned for April 28, 2012

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2012-03-19 10:43:29 PM
You know, if I was absolutely, utterly certain that none of these awful laws would pass Constitutional muster, and if I were a political type, I might feel that this is a really, really good idea for Democratic operatives to introduce/champion in secret. What with the birth control bullshiat and abortion rights restrictions that are currently under debate in the US, I can easily see the female vote throwing Obama another term, returning the House to Democratic control, and strengthening the Senate majority, as well as turning a bunch of states to Democratic control. Hell, this batch of anti-sex, anti-female laws might just set us up for real healthcare reform, real tax reform, etc.
 
2012-03-19 10:43:53 PM

feckingmorons: I may be going out on a limb here but I don't see an abortionist as an important member of one's healthcare team.


www.hangerstore.com
 
2012-03-19 10:46:40 PM

cman: They perceive a war on christianity where one does not exist.


Well, there is a war on stupidity going on, plus pushback against the Republican War on Women, so yeah, there kind of is a war against Christianity. Christians like being ignorant and oppressing people.
 
2012-03-19 10:52:03 PM
Aaand this is what happens when you don't vote in local and state elections.
 
2012-03-19 10:57:44 PM

GAT_00: Christians like being ignorant and oppressing people.


No we don't.
 
2012-03-19 10:58:08 PM
coco ebert: Aaand this is what happens when you don't vote in local and state elections.

I don't think you said that loudly enough.
 
2012-03-19 11:01:47 PM

Chariset: GAT_00: Christians like being ignorant and oppressing people.

No we don't.


Many that self identify as, do.

Yes we (collective) get there's a difference, you want it back take it back. Call them out at every opportunity.
 
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