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2012-03-19 10:45:38 PM

Mateorocks: Show me a young conservative, I'll show you someone with no heart.

Show me an old liberal, I'll show you someone with no brain.


Oddly enough it's more often the opposite. Seriusly, ever see a Young Republican meetup?
 
2012-03-19 10:47:23 PM
When the Democrats are trying to help you and the Republicans want you dead, it's not a tough call to vote for Democrats.
 
2012-03-19 10:48:21 PM

herrDrFarkenstein: Mateorocks: Show me a young conservative, I'll show you someone with no heart.

Show me an old liberal, I'll show you someone with no brain.

Oddly enough it's more often the opposite. Seriusly, ever see a Young Republican meetup?


Isn't that called Sunday School?
 
2012-03-19 10:49:16 PM

Mateorocks: Show me a young conservative, I'll show you someone with no heart.

Show me an old liberal, I'll show you someone with no brain.


A phrase first coined by a French monarchist. Don't want to live under a monarchy? Then clearly you have some growing up to do.
 
2012-03-19 10:50:24 PM

CthulhuCalling: WorldCitizen: CthulhuCalling: I wish someone at the DNC would read these comments and give them to Obama to use during the Presidential debates. Apart from being some really good points, it would be hilarious as hell to see the entire GOP's collective faces as Obama takes the gloves off and throws down. I'd love to see the DNC take the GOP to task over a lot of stuff, but it will never happen...

"Oh shiat, he means business!"

No, that would require Democrats to be competent at politics. That's not about to happen. Republicans, even with the constant flow of derp coming out of their mouths, still control the political narrative. They have completely and utterly cowed the media by screaming "liberal bias!!!" any time the media reports facts that counter the Republican narrative.

Hopefully someday soon, a new kind of political creature will arise from the primordial political ooze. One full of piss and vinegar, sarcasm, with the talent and will to launch a withering attack on derp. Franken is sort of like a rough sketch, but too timid to really be out on the front lines. Just the idea of the GOP running into someone who not only won't take their shiat, but calls them out on it. It warms me in the cockles of the heart. Maybe below the cockles, in the sub-cockular area. What do we call that.... a Democrat with a spine?


There are the occasional few (Alan Grayson was a decent example), but the Republican tactic concerning them is basically to scream at the other Democrats until they drive that guy with a spine out of whatever position he holds that permits him to stand up to them.
 
2012-03-19 10:50:26 PM

Fano: Where is James Carville?

We need him now more than ever.


He went back to his home planet.
 
2012-03-19 10:50:58 PM

Mateorocks: Show me a young conservative, I'll show you someone with no heart.

Show me an old liberal, I'll show you someone with no brain.


Show me an old Republican and I'll show you someone who gets frightened out of their dentures by their own shadow.
 
2012-03-19 10:58:54 PM
subby: Mitt Romney, who was once briefly a Democrat

Only because of a stupid law, it seems. (new window)
 
2012-03-19 11:04:10 PM
Until he forgets the whole, no sex without procreation thing, I do not think young folks will like him.
 
2012-03-19 11:09:26 PM
Young people can spot a sock puppet in an empty suit.
 
2012-03-19 11:12:41 PM
Voting for someone whose history shows that everything he touches turns into a shell while he makes billions seems a bit naive.
 
2012-03-19 11:13:37 PM

WI241TH: I'm tired of being told I'm old enough to know better but not old enough to know anything else.

I'm tired of people like you, who are afraid of their own shadow because it's too dark.
I'm tired of people like you, who think love is something to be legislated.
I'm tired of people like you, who pretend a book of fairy tales has all the answers to today's problems.
I'm tired of people like you, who value dead presidents over dead soldiers.
I'm tired of people like you, who don't even try to understand the world you want to legislate
I'm tired of people like you, who have no vision for America other than "Let's keep moving backwards"

This is my second presidential election and this is how tired of your bullshiat I am. Today's Democrats aren't the answer either, but they're a tiny step in the right direction. And when you old assholes that crippled this country for a few extra dollars are dead and gone, there's a glimmer of hope left in me that the world will be just a little bit better, because you won't be in it to fark it up any longer. That's why I vote Democrat, you stupid prick.


I have emerged from years of quiet lurking to do something I never, ever thought I'd do...

THIS!
 
2012-03-19 11:14:43 PM
Age and Wisdom......
 
2012-03-19 11:15:49 PM
It's not even fun to make fun of Mitt's gaffes anymore.
 
2012-03-19 11:18:59 PM
Funny, I can't see how a human being, young or old, could vote Republican
 
2012-03-19 11:21:47 PM

CthulhuCalling: WorldCitizen: CthulhuCalling: I wish someone at the DNC would read these comments and give them to Obama to use during the Presidential debates. Apart from being some really good points, it would be hilarious as hell to see the entire GOP's collective faces as Obama takes the gloves off and throws down. I'd love to see the DNC take the GOP to task over a lot of stuff, but it will never happen...

"Oh shiat, he means business!"

No, that would require Democrats to be competent at politics. That's not about to happen. Republicans, even with the constant flow of derp coming out of their mouths, still control the political narrative. They have completely and utterly cowed the media by screaming "liberal bias!!!" any time the media reports facts that counter the Republican narrative.

Hopefully someday soon, a new kind of political creature will arise from the primordial political ooze. One full of piss and vinegar, sarcasm, with the talent and will to launch a withering attack on derp. Franken is sort of like a rough sketch, but too timid to really be out on the front lines. Just the idea of the GOP running into someone who not only won't take their shiat, but calls them out on it. It warms me in the cockles of the heart. Maybe below the cockles, in the sub-cockular area. What do we call that.... a Democrat with a spine?


...Stephen Colbert?

(No, I'm not entirely sure I'm kidding. I'd very much vote for him.)
 
2012-03-19 11:22:55 PM
"I don't see how a young American can vote for a Democrat be a member of a cult that believes in baptizing dead people into heaven."

This idiot is for something (auto bailouts) until someone actually does something. Then he's against it.

But he was happy to take French government $$ to consult for the cluster fark that was Groupe Bull.

/ A draft dodger. Who's pro-draft.
// Why isn't Romney in an insane asylum?
 
2012-03-19 11:31:09 PM
Why does anyone vote for either side? Whatever positive qualities they have is drowned under the bullshiat.

It's time to torch the parties and rebuild them from the ground up. Maybe this time we'll get it right.
 
2012-03-19 11:31:26 PM
People become a lot more conservative when they have mortgages and dependents. Mere correlation or causation?
 
2012-03-19 11:32:24 PM

Mateorocks: Show me a young conservative, I'll show you someone with no heart.

Show me an old liberal, I'll show you someone with no brain.


A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged.

A liberal is a conservative who's been to jail.
 
2012-03-19 11:33:06 PM

FlashHarry: most young people tend to not give a shiat if a boy wants to marry another boy.


If by "young" you mean "born since 1960".

(GSS-2010)
 
2012-03-19 11:35:25 PM

FlashHarry: most young people tend to not give a shiat if a boy wants to marry another boy. most young people want to help the disadvantaged. most young people are optimists. most young people oppose unnecessary war. most young people oppose crony capitalism. most young people are religiously tolerant. most young people want less government censorship. most young people favor the individual over the corporation. most young people think the super-wealthy should pay their fair share.

gee, mittens... i wonder why they vote democrat instead of american taliban.


"American Taliban"? Which one of your above statements, as the Democrat you surely are, fits in with that lovely hate speech at the end of you comment, or the typical religious intolerance you Fark Democrats have towards Mormons?
 
2012-03-19 11:37:02 PM
Well it is the 21st century. Things change. I doubt even JFK could make heads or tails out of his party now.
 
2012-03-19 11:38:17 PM

1nsanilicious: FlashHarry: most young people tend to not give a shiat if a boy wants to marry another boy. most young people want to help the disadvantaged. most young people are optimists. most young people oppose unnecessary war. most young people oppose crony capitalism. most young people are religiously tolerant. most young people want less government censorship. most young people favor the individual over the corporation. most young people think the super-wealthy should pay their fair share.

gee, mittens... i wonder why they vote democrat instead of american taliban.

"American Taliban"? Which one of your above statements, as the Democrat you surely are, fits in with that lovely hate speech at the end of you comment, or the typical religious intolerance you Fark Democrats have towards Mormons?


See, many people see the parallels between policies espoused by the mainstream Republican party and the Taliban.

Control of women

Religion controls decisions of state

Hatred of gays

The list goes on and on.
 
2012-03-19 11:38:56 PM
Mitt: "You guys ought to be out working like crazy for me and for people like me..."

Bowie: "And these children that you spit on as they try to change their world are immune to your consultations. They're quite aware of what they're going through."
 
2012-03-19 11:39:13 PM

ansius: People become a lot more conservative when they have mortgages and dependents. Mere correlation or causation?


People become douchebags when they have mortgages? We should stop with the mortgages.
 
2012-03-19 11:39:51 PM

docilej: Well it is the 21st century. Things change. I doubt even JFK could make heads or tails out of his party now.


I think you meant Teddy Roosevelt.
 
2012-03-19 11:45:26 PM

FlashHarry: most young people tend to not give a shiat if a boy wants to marry another boy. most young people want to help the disadvantaged. most young people are optimists. most young people oppose unnecessary war. most young people oppose crony capitalism. most young people are religiously tolerant. most young people want less government censorship. most young people favor the individual over the corporation. most young people think the super-wealthy should pay their fair share.

gee, mittens... i wonder why they vote democrat instead of american taliban.


Done.

In.

One.

/pissed that Olympia Snowe is heading out, she was one of the exceptions that proved the rule
 
2012-03-19 11:46:37 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: FlashHarry: most young people tend to not give a shiat if a boy wants to marry another boy. most young people want to help the disadvantaged. most young people are optimists. most young people oppose unnecessary war. most young people oppose crony capitalism. most young people are religiously tolerant. most young people want less government censorship. most young people favor the individual over the corporation. most young people think the super-wealthy should pay their fair share.

gee, mittens... i wonder why they vote democrat instead of american taliban.

Done.

In.

One.

/pissed that Olympia Snowe is heading out, she was one of the exceptions that proved the rule


I won't miss the Republican that voted Republican when it mattered.
 
2012-03-19 11:47:50 PM
Tergiversada: COMALite J: SpookyEyes: Fista-Phobia: <snip>

Show them my link demonstrating how Romney very publicly violated the teachings of their immediately previous modern-day Prophet on national television.

Tergiversada: You are correct. The LDS church is opposed to gambling.
I think he was being facetious when he proposed the bet. It was stupid.


What if Perry had accepted the bet? How could Romney have known in advance that Perry would turn it down?

(Though what Romney did isn't nearly as bad as what Glenn Beck did. What Romney did wouldn't even cost him his Temple recommend, as the gambling thing isn't an actual commandment in LDS doctrine, but rather more of a very strong principle. What Beck did, on the other hand, was basically an excommunication-level offense!)

OK, now I'm intrigued. I don't watch Glen Beck, so I have no idea what that blowhard did that could have gotten him bounced. What did he do?

The LDS faith believes in continuing revelation from God to man. It's long-established LDS doctrine that anyone who has been confirmed as an LDS member and thus received the Gift of the Holy Ghost under the laying on of hands from a Melchizedek Priesthood holder is entitled to revelation, so long as s/he remains worthy.

But, the house of the LORD is a house of order, and revelation that God would want to reveal that would be for more than one person only comes one who is both worthy, and in a position of Church authority and responsibility for those people.

So, for instance, if God had something to tell Sister Elldie Ess, that was only for her or perhaps for her children (whom she has responsibility for), and if she had no Priesthood-holding husband at home, and she was worthy, then God could send the Holy Spirit to speak directly to her spirit, giving her divine revelation. That revelation would not be for anyone else.

If she were, say, a Primary teacher, she could (and should) pray for inspiration on the lesson she's preparing. That could be seen as revelation to her and to the children in her class, who are her responsibility. No one else, though.

If she were married to a faithful Melchizedek Priesthood holder, revelation for her family or even for her personally would most likely come through her husband in most situations since he is the head of the household, except when it had something to do with her role as mother of the home.

If her husband Larry Dee has some position of authority in the local congregation (Ward or Branch), or regional group of congregations (Stake), then he could receive revelation relating to that calling. So, for instance, if he were the Home Teacher of a family in trouble, and neither parent in that family were in tune enough with the Spirit to receive revelation themselves, God could tell Brother L. Dee Ess instead (usually in response to prayer from Brother Ess, asking God to reveal to him any special needs of his Home Teaching families).

If her husband were, say, Elders' Quorum President, he could receive revelation on behalf of their Ward's entire Elders' Quorum as a whole, but not for any other Quorum of that Ward nor any other. If he were Bishop of the Ward, God could send him revelation intended for the entire congregation, but not for any other congregation. If he were Stake President, he could receive revelation for the entire Stake of Zion, but not any other Stake of Zion, and so on, and so on.

With me so far?

The vast majority of the time, only one person anywhere on the planet has the authority to receive revelation from God intended for the entire world, or even an entire nation, as a whole, and that man is the then-current Prophet, Seer, Revelator, and President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Right now and for the past several years, that's Thomas S. Monson, and nobody else.

When the Prophet dies, the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles temporarily has authority and ability to receive revelation equal to that of the Prophet, but they generally exercise it only long enough to receive revelation on who the next Prophet is to be. They hold the full keys, but in an inactive form, and only so that they ordain the next Prophet, since nobody can ordain anyone to an authority beyond or with keys that he himself does not possess.

For any member of the LDS Church to claim to have received revelation outside of his or her own authority and responsibility is a very serious offense. The Bishop of a Ward cannot claim to have received revelation about another Ward, let alone the whole Stake, for instance.

To claim to have received divine revelation on a level reserved to the Prophet may be considered an excommunication-level offense. It is, quite frankly, a form of apostasy, placing oneself on an equal footing with or even above the Prophet (for why would God not send such a revelation to the Prophet instead of to some ordinary member?).

About 1¾ years ago, in the lead-up to his "Rally to Restore Honor" and in building up interest in his then-forthcoming book, Glenn Beck claimed on his radio show that he had received revelation from God for America as a whole. While he did not use the word "revelation" thereafter to the best of my knowledge, he did claim that at his Rally he would begin to, and in his book he would more fully, reveal God's plan for America.

Glenn Beck was not then and is not now in any position of authority or responsibility that would authorize him to receive revelation from God on behalf of America as a whole, let alone God's plan for America. Only one person is according to LDS belief, and his name is not Glenn Beck.

Even if Mitt Romney or Jon Huntsman (a man who, to the best of my knowledge, has never so publicly and flagrantly violated the teachings [let alone outright doctrine] of his religion as Mitt so shamelessly did with Perry) became President of the USA, God would still only reveal to them what they needed specifically to help him or her personally in the office of President, just as each of them could earlier receive to help them in their respective Gubernatorial offices of Massachusetts and Utah. Even an LDS President of the USA could not actually receive God's plan for America, unless he were also the Prophet, Seer, Revelator, and President of the LDS Church (Joseph Smith did run for President, so he could have done so).

That's what Glenn Beck did that is arguably an excommunication-level offense. At the very least, he should've been summoned to his Bishop's or Stake President's office to confess his sin and explain himself (and he may well have been − such Church disciplinary procedures are very private). But usually, repentance in the LDS faith entails confessing to, and begging forgiveness from, all who were adversely affected by the sin. In this case, a public retraction of his claim to having received God's plan for America would be in order, and I don't recall him doing any such thing.
 
2012-03-19 11:49:54 PM

Boxcutta: I am Willard Mitt Romney, and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.' I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...The Republican Party. A place where the CEO would not fear the worker, where the scientist would not be bound by facts, where the great would not be constrained by the small! And with the sweat of your brow, Republicans can become your party as well.


Would you kindly send me your newsletter?
 
2012-03-19 11:54:33 PM
You can't explain that.
 
2012-03-19 11:57:00 PM

meat0918: 1nsanilicious: FlashHarry: most young people tend to not give a shiat if a boy wants to marry another boy. most young people want to help the disadvantaged. most young people are optimists. most young people oppose unnecessary war. most young people oppose crony capitalism. most young people are religiously tolerant. most young people want less government censorship. most young people favor the individual over the corporation. most young people think the super-wealthy should pay their fair share.

gee, mittens... i wonder why they vote democrat instead of american taliban.

"American Taliban"? Which one of your above statements, as the Democrat you surely are, fits in with that lovely hate speech at the end of you comment, or the typical religious intolerance you Fark Democrats have towards Mormons?

See, many people see the parallels between policies espoused by the mainstream Republican party and the Taliban.

Control of women

Religion controls decisions of state

Hatred of gays

The list goes on and on.


.

Democrats spawn Eco-Terrorists like ELF, and Cyber-Terrorists like Annonymous (I defy you to get one of those guys to prove they are republican).

The point is I can make a scary list comparing Democrats to the Taliban too but what's the point, your already as stubborn as the republicans are in thier line of thought.

PS. If you really think those points you made are the vast majority of republicans and why they are republican you are beyond help.
 
2012-03-20 12:00:14 AM

Fano: CthulhuCalling: WorldCitizen: CthulhuCalling: I wish someone at the DNC would read these comments and give them to Obama to use during the Presidential debates. Apart from being some really good points, it would be hilarious as hell to see the entire GOP's collective faces as Obama takes the gloves off and throws down. I'd love to see the DNC take the GOP to task over a lot of stuff, but it will never happen...

"Oh shiat, he means business!"

No, that would require Democrats to be competent at politics. That's not about to happen. Republicans, even with the constant flow of derp coming out of their mouths, still control the political narrative. They have completely and utterly cowed the media by screaming "liberal bias!!!" any time the media reports facts that counter the Republican narrative.

Hopefully someday soon, a new kind of political creature will arise from the primordial political ooze. One full of piss and vinegar, sarcasm, with the talent and will to launch a withering attack on derp. Franken is sort of like a rough sketch, but too timid to really be out on the front lines. Just the idea of the GOP running into someone who not only won't take their shiat, but calls them out on it. It warms me in the cockles of the heart. Maybe below the cockles, in the sub-cockular area. What do we call that.... a Democrat with a spine?

Where is James Carville?

We need him now more than ever.


I think you just broke the First Seal.
 
2012-03-20 12:00:26 AM

1nsanilicious: Democrats spawn Eco-Terrorists like ELF, and Cyber-Terrorists like Annonymous (I defy you to get one of those guys to prove they are republican).

The point is I can make a scary list comparing Democrats to the Taliban too but what's the point, your already as stubborn as the republicans are in thier line of thought.

PS. If you really think those points you made are the vast majority of republicans and why they are republican you are beyond help.


Not really, the religious aspect leaves you rather cold.
 
2012-03-20 12:02:29 AM

1nsanilicious: Eco-Terrorists like ELF, and Cyber-Terrorists like Annonymous


So, about fourteen people then.
 
2012-03-20 12:15:51 AM

Herb Utsmelz: 1nsanilicious: Eco-Terrorists like ELF, and Cyber-Terrorists like Annonymous

So, about fourteen people then.


Dude, the old guy died. It is down to 13.
 
2012-03-20 12:19:22 AM
FTFA: "I don't see how a young American can vote for a Democrat." "I apologize for being so offensive in saying that, but I catch your attention," he continued. "But I mean that in the humor there's some truth there.

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2012-03-20 12:19:26 AM

MissFeasance: Really? I don't see how they can vote Republican.


Wealthy, white and privileged with a massive chip on their shoulder about gays, Muslims, women, college professors, and anyone else that doesn't fit their romanticized view of how nice things were before everyone who wasn't a WASP got uppity?
 
2012-03-20 12:20:23 AM

Somacandra: FTFA: "I don't see how a young American can vote for a Democrat." "I apologize for being so offensive in saying that, but I catch your attention," he continued. "But I mean that in the humor there's some truth there.

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He thought he caught peoples' attention with that. Dennis Miller makes that same mistake.
 
2012-03-20 12:22:51 AM

1nsanilicious: meat0918: 1nsanilicious: FlashHarry: most young people tend to not give a shiat if a boy wants to marry another boy. most young people want to help the disadvantaged. most young people are optimists. most young people oppose unnecessary war. most young people oppose crony capitalism. most young people are religiously tolerant. most young people want less government censorship. most young people favor the individual over the corporation. most young people think the super-wealthy should pay their fair share.

gee, mittens... i wonder why they vote democrat instead of american taliban.

"American Taliban"? Which one of your above statements, as the Democrat you surely are, fits in with that lovely hate speech at the end of you comment, or the typical religious intolerance you Fark Democrats have towards Mormons?

See, many people see the parallels between policies espoused by the mainstream Republican party and the Taliban.

Control of women

Religion controls decisions of state

Hatred of gays

The list goes on and on.

.

Democrats spawn Eco-Terrorists like ELF, and Cyber-Terrorists like Annonymous (I defy you to get one of those guys to prove they are republican).

The point is I can make a scary list comparing Democrats to the Taliban too but what's the point, your already as stubborn as the republicans are in thier line of thought.

PS. If you really think those points you made are the vast majority of republicans and why they are republican you are beyond help.


Do you see any Democratic presidential candidates in the last 20 years running on a campaign of pro-eco terrorisim and pro-Anonymous?

Now, do you see any Republican presidential candidates running on a campaign against the separation of church and state? Do you see any Republicans campaigning on amending the US Constitution to prevent gay people from having equal marriage rights (basically adding a religious based amendment to the Constitution)? Do you see any Republicans running who would likely support teaching religion in the form of creationism in science classrooms? I'm pretty sure I could go on here.

Not all Republicans are part of the Theocratic wing of the Republican Party, but that wing is growing in strength all the time. Santorum is certainly a member and you have its traditional leaders like Pat Robertson. It is strong enough that people like Mitt Romney have to pay it a great deal of lip service to even have a shot of making it through primary season.

I'm pretty sure if the South did break off right now you would see a Theocratic (whatever they would call it in real title) Party voted in to power as the ideology seems to be strongest there.

So, no, I don't think the "other side has extremists too" defense is good enough. The modern US Democratic Party in any of the other Western, developed democracies would be a centrist right party. There is no real representation on a national level of even far left ideology in American politics let alone extremist left. However, with US Democrats representing what in the Western world is center right, the modern US Republicans are trending very far to the right.

No, not all Republicans are theocrats. Not all Republicans vote Republican to be against equal rights for gays. Not all Republicans vote Republican to have creationism taught in science classes. But millions upon millions of them do.

How many Democrats vote for Democrats as a show of support for eco-terrorism?
 
2012-03-20 12:28:06 AM

WorldCitizen: 1nsanilicious: meat0918: 1nsanilicious: FlashHarry: most young people tend to not give a shiat if a boy wants to marry another boy. most young people want to help the disadvantaged. most young people are optimists. most young people oppose unnecessary war. most young people oppose crony capitalism. most young people are religiously tolerant. most young people want less government censorship. most young people favor the individual over the corporation. most young people think the super-wealthy should pay their fair share.

gee, mittens... i wonder why they vote democrat instead of american taliban.

"American Taliban"? Which one of your above statements, as the Democrat you surely are, fits in with that lovely hate speech at the end of you comment, or the typical religious intolerance you Fark Democrats have towards Mormons?

See, many people see the parallels between policies espoused by the mainstream Republican party and the Taliban.

Control of women

Religion controls decisions of state

Hatred of gays

The list goes on and on.

.

Democrats spawn Eco-Terrorists like ELF, and Cyber-Terrorists like Annonymous (I defy you to get one of those guys to prove they are republican).

The point is I can make a scary list comparing Democrats to the Taliban too but what's the point, your already as stubborn as the republicans are in thier line of thought.

PS. If you really think those points you made are the vast majority of republicans and why they are republican you are beyond help.

Do you see any Democratic presidential candidates in the last 20 years running on a campaign of pro-eco terrorisim and pro-Anonymous?

Now, do you see any Republican presidential candidates running on a campaign against the separation of church and state? Do you see any Republicans campaigning on amending the US Constitution to prevent gay people from having equal marriage rights (basically adding a religious based amendment to the Constitution)? Do you see any Republicans running who w ...


Dude, 8.
 
2012-03-20 12:34:42 AM

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: We can add that to the list of people Romney can't relate to. What am I missing:

Women
Gays
Poor people
Southerners
Non-Southern fans of the band Alabama
Environmentalists
Muslims
People who care about facts
Young people


anyone with a conscience
 
2012-03-20 12:34:45 AM

1nsanilicious: Democrats spawn Eco-Terrorists like ELF


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R.I..P UNBELIEVABLE
 
2012-03-20 12:40:02 AM
republiTards don't understand a lot of things.

Him not understanding why people vote correctly doesn't surprise me.
 
2012-03-20 12:42:21 AM

COMALite J: Tergiversada: COMALite J: SpookyEyes: Fista-Phobia: <snip>

Show them my link demonstrating how Romney very publicly violated the teachings of their immediately previous modern-day Prophet on national television.

Tergiversada: You are correct. The LDS church is opposed to gambling.
I think he was being facetious when he proposed the bet. It was stupid.

What if Perry had accepted the bet? How could Romney have known in advance that Perry would turn it down?

(Though what Romney did isn't nearly as bad as what Glenn Beck did. What Romney did wouldn't even cost him his Temple recommend, as the gambling thing isn't an actual commandment in LDS doctrine, but rather more of a very strong principle. What Beck did, on the other hand, was basically an excommunication-level offense!)

OK, now I'm intrigued. I don't watch Glen Beck, so I have no idea what that blowhard did that could have gotten him bounced. What did he do?

The LDS faith believes in continuing revelation from God to man. It's long-established LDS doctrine that anyone who has been confirmed as an LDS member and thus received the Gift of the Holy Ghost under the laying on of hands from a Melchizedek Priesthood holder is entitled to revelation, so long as s/he remains worthy.

But, the house of the LORD is a house of order, and revelation that God would want to reveal that would be for more than one person only comes one who is both worthy, and in a position of Church authority and responsibility for those people.

So, for instance, if God had something to tell Sister Elldie Ess, that was only for her or perhaps for her children (whom she has responsibility for), and if she had no Priesthood-holding husband at home, and she was worthy, then God could send the Holy Spirit to speak directly to her spirit, giving her divine revelation. That revelation would not be for anyone else...


Thank you for your careful, thought-provoking answer. I'm not a Glenn Beck fan, so I missed that ego trip. That's way beyond arrogance. If he went that far, I don't see how he wasn't at the very least disfellowshipped.
 
2012-03-20 12:45:21 AM
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I don't see that changing for Republicans with 65 year old Willard Romney leading the charge.
 
2012-03-20 12:59:31 AM

Mateorocks: Show me a young conservative, I'll show you someone with no heart.

Show me an old liberal, I'll show you someone with no brain.


Churchill was just trying to excuse his lack of political conviction.
 
2012-03-20 01:12:37 AM

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I don't see that changing for Republicans with 65 year old Willard Romney leading the charge.


Mitt is 65? He could pass for 55. Luckily he can afford good health care.
 
2012-03-20 01:50:16 AM
After two terms of Bush/Cheney, the embarrassment that was McCain/Palin and the clusterfark of shameful buffoonery on display as this gang of incompetent asshats scramble to claim the title of most prevaricating, homophobic, misogynistic, theocratic racist, one wonders how anyone could vote Republican.
 
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