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2012-03-19 04:00:43 PM  

Doink_Boink: howdyyall9999: tnpir: What Denver needs now is another good receiver or two. Royal is gone, leaving Decker and Thomas as the top two guys. They need at least one more - who's left in free agency?

If Denver can also upgrade the secondary, it's really not a bad team with Peyton at QB, a great running game, solid o-line, and scrappy defense.

Rumor has it they will use their first round pick on the tender for Mike Wallace from the Steelers. The Steelers are in cap hell and Denver could make an offer that Pittsburgh can't match.

Not a bad deal for Pittsburgh, if you ask me. They can't afford him with their cap, they have three other good receivers (Brown had the same stats as Wallace last year), and they would get the #25 overall pick.


I think it is one of those win-win scenarios. Mike Wallace for the 25th pic? Deal!

Thomas, Decker and Wallace... that is as good as Peyton had in Indy.
 
2012-03-19 04:02:11 PM  

CavalierEternal: OregonVet: If the Browns get Tebow I may quit watching NFL entirely.

:gulp:


3:2 Jags
7:4 stays with Broncos
7:4 Miami
7:1 Pats
12:1 Browns

hm.. that's actually pretty close to how I'd call it
 
2012-03-19 04:03:27 PM  
I hope Manning shows up to camp with a neckbeard to really piss off the Tebow fans
 
2012-03-19 04:03:28 PM  

IAmRight: Signing Manning is nice, but it doesn't mean they're going to even break .500.


No, it doesn't. And that's why the NFL is so fun to watch. What's playoff turnover? Like 50%. The broncos were fun to watch last year and they will be fun to watch this year. I think of Manning and Tebow about the same way. I'm not a religious person but I think they are both standout 'good guys' in a league with no paucity of questionable dudes. I can't really root 'against' either one of them unless they are lined up against my team at the moment. For that matter I don't think there's a player in the league I go out of my way to wish ill on. It's a little funny for me when the Pats lose but just because of the 'genius' thing - because I remember the Cleveland years.
 
2012-03-19 04:04:27 PM  

redmid17: oh_please: redmid17: oh_please: I've heard that the docs cleared Peyton and said he's at no greater risk of injury than any other NFL QB. I looked it up, and he's had 4 previous neck surgeries. Unless the last surgery was conducted with fairy dust and unicorn farts, he's not "all better"...Broncos are taking a big dice roll here.

Awesome. Glad we have the world's foremost expert on neck trauma here. Should clear up a lot of issues.

Don't claim to be a doc, but common sense tells me this:

If you've had four neck surgeries in two years, and the last one kept you out the entire season, I'd say you're at more of a risk in that particular area. Just sayin'.

And the doctors who:

a) have formal medical training
b) years of experience with this exact injury
c) have seen him work out
d) actually conducted medical tests on his neck

seem to disagree with your sweeping assumption.


All those football players showing brain damage at autopsy, often at tragically young ages? All those retired football players who can't walk, or even stand up straight, without pain-killers? Doctors and neurosurgeons cleared every single one of them to make every single play.

MDs can be jock-sniffers, too, and they can tell people, both owners and players who have no other vision of life, what they want to hear.
 
2012-03-19 04:04:52 PM  

howdyyall9999: Doink_Boink: howdyyall9999: tnpir: What Denver needs now is another good receiver or two. Royal is gone, leaving Decker and Thomas as the top two guys. They need at least one more - who's left in free agency?

If Denver can also upgrade the secondary, it's really not a bad team with Peyton at QB, a great running game, solid o-line, and scrappy defense.

Rumor has it they will use their first round pick on the tender for Mike Wallace from the Steelers. The Steelers are in cap hell and Denver could make an offer that Pittsburgh can't match.

Not a bad deal for Pittsburgh, if you ask me. They can't afford him with their cap, they have three other good receivers (Brown had the same stats as Wallace last year), and they would get the #25 overall pick.

I think it is one of those win-win scenarios. Mike Wallace for the 25th pic? Deal!

Thomas, Decker and Wallace... that is as good as Peyton had in Indy.


Erm kind of. You still have flex TE, and you're RBs aren't very good in pass protection.
 
2012-03-19 04:05:55 PM  

Sliding Carp: redmid17: oh_please: redmid17: oh_please: I've heard that the docs cleared Peyton and said he's at no greater risk of injury than any other NFL QB. I looked it up, and he's had 4 previous neck surgeries. Unless the last surgery was conducted with fairy dust and unicorn farts, he's not "all better"...Broncos are taking a big dice roll here.

Awesome. Glad we have the world's foremost expert on neck trauma here. Should clear up a lot of issues.

Don't claim to be a doc, but common sense tells me this:

If you've had four neck surgeries in two years, and the last one kept you out the entire season, I'd say you're at more of a risk in that particular area. Just sayin'.

And the doctors who:

a) have formal medical training
b) years of experience with this exact injury
c) have seen him work out
d) actually conducted medical tests on his neck

seem to disagree with your sweeping assumption.

All those football players showing brain damage at autopsy, often at tragically young ages? All those retired football players who can't walk, or even stand up straight, without pain-killers? Doctors and neurosurgeons cleared every single one of them to make every single play.

MDs can be jock-sniffers, too, and they can tell people, both owners and players who have no other vision of life, what they want to hear.


Neck injury =/= long term brain damage caused be repeated head trauma. They're different parts of the body chief. The doctors wouldn't clear him if he wasn't healthy. $100 dollars is a lot of money, and Elway isn't stupid.
 
2012-03-19 04:06:25 PM  

borg: Peyton will be out by the third game of the season. He's damaged hasbeen why would anyone sign him.


*bookmarked*
 
2012-03-19 04:09:49 PM  

IAmRight: InferiousX: It was the media hype machine that surrounded him that would garble his cock at any given chance that would make people upset.

The hype machine that constantly said he sucks and the nicest thing anyone said is "but somehow he keeps winning."

You guys are retarded.


i22.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-19 04:19:29 PM  
I get to see what spirals look like again!!
 
2012-03-19 04:22:12 PM  

netweavr: NFL: "Tebow sucks"
Denver: "Here's a 1-4 team, knock yourself out"
Tebow: *PLAYOFFS*
NFL: "You got lucky. It was the defense."
Tebow: *PLAYOFF WIN AGAINST DEFENSIVE JUGGERNAUT PITTSBURGH*
NFL: "You still suck"
Tebow: *loses to Brady*
NFL: "SEE!?! TOLD YOU! CUT HIM!"


Excellent, a perfect reason for the Tebow Faithful to rise up, and there will be retribution in Denver, oh, yes, there will be. What side are you ON, Denver? The side of God, or the side of the elder son of the Manning?

/thinking it's Manning, except for the fundies
 
2012-03-19 04:22:55 PM  

degenerate-afro: Taking a Steelers team with 5 injured players starters, a player benched due to sickle cell, a QB working off of one leg and a coach who was caught in a fire to overtime is something to definitely to hang your hat on. Congrats.


Meh. Yeah, we were beat up even more than usual but the short story is we got beat. No excuses. Hats off to the victors - they outplayed us.
 
2012-03-19 04:24:31 PM  
Stallworth to the Pats, Landry to the Jets.
 
2012-03-19 04:29:13 PM  

Sliding Carp: redmid17: oh_please: redmid17: oh_please: I've heard that the docs cleared Peyton and said he's at no greater risk of injury than any other NFL QB. I looked it up, and he's had 4 previous neck surgeries. Unless the last surgery was conducted with fairy dust and unicorn farts, he's not "all better"...Broncos are taking a big dice roll here.

Awesome. Glad we have the world's foremost expert on neck trauma here. Should clear up a lot of issues.

Don't claim to be a doc, but common sense tells me this:

If you've had four neck surgeries in two years, and the last one kept you out the entire season, I'd say you're at more of a risk in that particular area. Just sayin'.

And the doctors who:

a) have formal medical training
b) years of experience with this exact injury
c) have seen him work out
d) actually conducted medical tests on his neck

seem to disagree with your sweeping assumption.

All those football players showing brain damage at autopsy, often at tragically young ages? All those retired football players who can't walk, or even stand up straight, without pain-killers? Doctors and neurosurgeons cleared every single one of them to make every single play.

MDs can be jock-sniffers, too, and they can tell people, both owners and players who have no other vision of life, what they want to hear.


I'd think an owner (about to shell out $95 million) would want to hear the truth.
 
2012-03-19 04:30:49 PM  

JohnBigBootay: degenerate-afro: Taking a Steelers team with 5 injured players starters, a player benched due to sickle cell, a QB working off of one leg and a coach who was caught in a fire to overtime is something to definitely to hang your hat on. Congrats.

Meh. Yeah, we were beat up even more than usual but the short story is we got beat. No excuses. Hats off to the victors - they outplayed us.


That's why you're a favorite, JBB.
 
2012-03-19 04:32:10 PM  

The Bestest: CavalierEternal: OregonVet: If the Browns get Tebow I may quit watching NFL entirely.

:gulp:

3:2 Jags
7:4 stays with Broncos
7:4 Miami
7:1 Pats
12:1 Browns

hm.. that's actually pretty close to how I'd call it


3:2 Jags - No arguments here. It'd be a PR move to sell seats but it makes sense.

7:4 stays with Broncos - I doubt this. Elway hates tebow and I can't image manning wanting to deal with tebowmania.

7:4 Miami - cuz when you have no offense...it's best to bring in a guy who has no offensive skill....

7:1 Pats - Not gonna happen. He's a terrible QB, playing a dumbed down college offense...the exact opposite of what belichick wants in his players....(the patriots also have hoyer and Mallet). what about RB you say??? If the patriots aren't going pay benjarvis green ellis (a guy who has NEVER FUMBLED) I doubt they are going to go get tebow (a guy with 10 fumbles a year) to be a running back.


12:1 Browns - again...why? they need a QB...not a RB playing QB.
 
2012-03-19 04:32:25 PM  

The Bestest: CavalierEternal: OregonVet: If the Browns get Tebow I may quit watching NFL entirely.

:gulp:

3:2 Jags
7:4 stays with Broncos
7:4 Miami
7:1 Pats
12:1 Browns

hm.. that's actually pretty close to how I'd call it


The Broncos odds are too high. Peyton was wanting an awful lot of control over the offense and there is no way he would have signed without assurances he wouldn't have to listen to Focus on the Family fans screaming for his backup because the team had a 3 and out.
 
2012-03-19 04:33:03 PM  

Honest Bender: I thought the whole point of having a Sports tab was so that the rest of us didn't have to see this crap.


only a queer would complain about this . . . or a troll . . . or a queer troll . . .
 
2012-03-19 04:33:25 PM  

redmid17: The doctors wouldn't clear him if he wasn't healthy.


Tell it to J.R. Richard.

Of course, maybe football doctors are more ethical than baseball doctors.
Or maybe "it's all different now."
 
2012-03-19 04:34:30 PM  
See how it's done, Lebron?
 
2012-03-19 04:35:59 PM  

JohnBigBootay: I'm not a religious person but I think they are both standout 'good guys' in a league with no paucity of questionable dudes. I can't really root 'against' either one of them unless they are lined up against my team at the moment.


Me either. I'm not rooting against either. I'm just laughing at the Denver fans who either enjoyed Tebow's ride last year and now are all acting as though they didn't have fun and the ones that act as though he didn't do anything for that team.

At least I'm not suggesting that Peyton would be better suited as a TE.

But now I'm going to go back to rooting for the Chargers to win the West. The Broncos don't have the "for the lulz" going for them anymore, now they're just a regular ol' team.
 
2012-03-19 04:36:34 PM  

SharkTrager: The Broncos odds are too high. Peyton was wanting an awful lot of control over the offense and there is no way he would have signed without assurances he wouldn't have to listen to Focus on the Family fans screaming for his backup because the team had a 3 and out.


I agree but hey, those are the -actual- Vegas odds
 
2012-03-19 04:36:39 PM  

Sliding Carp: redmid17: The doctors wouldn't clear him if he wasn't healthy.

Tell it to J.R. Richard.

Of course, maybe football doctors are more ethical than baseball doctors.
Or maybe "it's all different now."


I was unaware incompetence and utterly lying about someone's condition were similar things.
 
2012-03-19 04:37:43 PM  

redmid17: College football championships can be won with the spread option or a variant as your primary offense. A SB cannot be won that way


Speaking of options, you move the goal posts quite well.
In his first chance in the NFL as a starter in any capacity, Tebow took his team to the playoffs.
If it was anyone else, anywhere else, there'd be talk of the future, not throwing him out the door.
 
2012-03-19 04:38:53 PM  

PoochUMD: I'd think an owner (about to shell out $95 million) would want to hear the truth.


The doctors don't have a crystal ball, all they can do is say, "it looks good now, no warranty".
 
2012-03-19 04:39:31 PM  

Kurmudgeon: redmid17: College football championships can be won with the spread option or a variant as your primary offense. A SB cannot be won that way

Speaking of options, you move the goal posts quite well.
In his first chance in the NFL as a starter in any capacity, Tebow took his team to the playoffs.
If it was anyone else, anywhere else, there'd be talk of the future, not throwing him out the door.


Not moving the goal posts. How you accomplish something is just as important as doing it. His method of playing is not sustainable in the NFL and hasn't been for 60+ years. His play speaks for itself.
 
2012-03-19 04:41:06 PM  

oh_please: PoochUMD: I'd think an owner (about to shell out $95 million) would want to hear the truth.

The doctors don't have a crystal ball, all they can do is say, "it looks good now, no warranty".


Yeah that's all they can say:

"Watkins, according to the sources, joined Colts neurosurgeon Dr. Hank Feuer in clearing Manning to play. One source said that Feuer recently told Manning, "If you were my own son, I'd tell [you] to go play."

I'd say that's a pretty farking legitimate endorsement.
 
2012-03-19 04:41:35 PM  
How do you turn a colt into a bronco? Break it's neck and perform 4-6 surgeries on it.
 
2012-03-19 04:41:58 PM  

oh_please: That's why you're a favorite, JBB.


I'm old. And the older I get, the more I realize that no one wants to hear your excuses. All these teams are massive organizations have multiple doctors, trainers, nutritionists and strength coaches as well as scouts, etc. They're all part of the team. And staying healthy enough to compete in December and January are very much a piece of the puzzle to winning in the playoffs. If they had, maybe things would be different... but they didn't and nobody cares. Which is as it should be.
 
2012-03-19 04:42:23 PM  
The Tim Tebow Era
The Peyton Manning Era

/gotta make it official
 
2012-03-19 04:44:37 PM  

JohnBigBootay: degenerate-afro: Taking a Steelers team with 5 injured players starters, a player benched due to sickle cell, a QB working off of one leg and a coach who was caught in a fire to overtime is something to definitely to hang your hat on. Congrats.

Meh. Yeah, we were beat up even more than usual but the short story is we got beat. No excuses. Hats off to the victors - they outplayed us.


What's the we stuff kemosabe? I'm no Steeler fan.

I just find it absurd to say "Tebow is being disrespected because he beat the dominant powerhouse Steelers" when they obviously weren't the dominant powerhouse last year.

I certainly believe in "a win is a win" as far as record goes, but there are a number of other factors that are used to determine a player's ability and "a win is a win" is not one of them.
 
rka
2012-03-19 04:46:29 PM  

Kurmudgeon: If it was anyone else, anywhere else, there'd be talk of the future, not throwing him out the door.


Even anyone with a sub 50% completion percentage? And with Peyton Manning as the alternative?

Are you so sure about that?

Personally, I think any QB with a bad of QB specific stats as Tebow had AND who finished the season like Tebow did. (You did watch the KC game right?) would not be guaranteed anything.

It's not like they replaced him with Carson Palmer or whatever reject the Raiders have under center this week.

Take a player at any other position and have them perform at the level Tebow did at his. Give them one spectacular win in the playoffs. Do they have a guaranteed job next year if a sure fire HoF'er comes around?

What if Matt Prater was
 
2012-03-19 04:46:56 PM  
I'm really disappointed that he didn't come to TN. We would so have driven up to see him play.

Manning, not Tebow.

The husband is kind of upset. I asked him who his team will be now and he mumbled "I dunno." I asked, hopefully, "The Jaguars?" "I dunno."

Big Cats get no love, I tell you.
 
2012-03-19 04:47:49 PM  

robsul82: The Tim Tebow Era
The Peyton Manning Era

/gotta make it official


Yup and now the fans don't have to wait for less than 5 minutes to go before the game to get interesting.
 
2012-03-19 04:48:56 PM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: Yup and now the fans don't have to wait for less than 5 minutes to go before the game to get interesting.


At least we'll still be able to use the IT'S TEBOW TIME!!!!!11 graphics when it's 5:00 4th in the Jags games this year.
 
2012-03-19 04:49:14 PM  

redmid17: oh_please: PoochUMD: I'd think an owner (about to shell out $95 million) would want to hear the truth.

The doctors don't have a crystal ball, all they can do is say, "it looks good now, no warranty".

Yeah that's all they can say:

"Watkins, according to the sources, joined Colts neurosurgeon Dr. Hank Feuer in clearing Manning to play. One source said that Feuer recently told Manning, "If you were my own son, I'd tell [you] to go play."

I'd say that's a pretty farking legitimate endorsement.


Yeah, but it sounds like Colts neurosurgeon Feuer cleared him to play after the last 3 surgeries.

"Sure, you're great, go out and get 'em!"
 
rka
2012-03-19 04:49:33 PM  

rka: What if Matt Prater was


Weird cutoff there.

I was trying ask if Matt Prater was sub-50% in his kicks but made the game winner in the playoffs instead of Tebow's TD. Does he have a automatic job next year on the Broncos?
 
2012-03-19 04:51:09 PM  

mootmah: CavalierEternal: Booooooo at the Mods for insta-greening their own headlines!


This wasn't submitted by a mod or admin. In fact, it wasn't even submitted by a TFer.
 
2012-03-19 04:51:12 PM  
i40.tinypic.com
 
2012-03-19 04:51:53 PM  

rka: Take a player at any other position and have them perform at the level Tebow did at his. Give them one spectacular win in the playoffs. Do they have a guaranteed job next year if a sure fire HoF'er comes around?


Well, geez, if you put it that way ...
 
2012-03-19 04:52:38 PM  

redmid17: $100 dollars is a lot of money, and Elway isn't stupid.


Side bet or something?
 
2012-03-19 04:52:55 PM  

Unfreakable: mootmah: CavalierEternal: Booooooo at the Mods for insta-greening their own headlines!

This wasn't submitted by a mod or admin. In fact, it wasn't even submitted by a TFer.


...immaculate submission?
 
2012-03-19 04:56:19 PM  
AdamSchefter: Raiders reached agreement with former 49ers CB Shawntae Spencer.

Yeah, you got that to worry about now Mr. Manning. Not going to be so easy throwing on the AFC West now!
 
2012-03-19 04:56:42 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: ...immaculate submission?


Just submitted by a regular Farker with a good headline on a breaking story. No more, no less.
 
2012-03-19 04:57:22 PM  

oh_please: redmid17: oh_please: PoochUMD: I'd think an owner (about to shell out $95 million) would want to hear the truth.

The doctors don't have a crystal ball, all they can do is say, "it looks good now, no warranty".

Yeah that's all they can say:

"Watkins, according to the sources, joined Colts neurosurgeon Dr. Hank Feuer in clearing Manning to play. One source said that Feuer recently told Manning, "If you were my own son, I'd tell [you] to go play."

I'd say that's a pretty farking legitimate endorsement.

Yeah, but it sounds like Colts neurosurgeon Feuer cleared him to play after the last 3 surgeries.

"Sure, you're great, go out and get 'em!"


That quote is from a few months before the Colts cut Manning and about 3 days after Irsay said Peyton was staying.
 
2012-03-19 04:58:13 PM  

IAmRight: The hype machine that constantly said he sucks and the nicest thing anyone said is "but somehow he keeps winning."

You guys are retarded.


i28.photobucket.com

Yea poor Tebow. The media was so hard on him.

IAmRight: Also, stop watching ESPN all day, and bam, all the hype goes away! You KNOW that they put stories about him out precisely because all the people that hate him will bash him in the comments and all the fundies will forward the story on to friends. Both ways, they get tons of page views and clicks. Learn to filter things with your head instead of pretending that anyone in the media loves him.


Dude, watching/reading almost ANY sports news they'd be all over him. You have John F***ing Gruden talking about Tebow during a game between two NFC South Teams. AKA something completely unrelated. You don't have to be "Watching ESPN all day"
 
2012-03-19 04:58:21 PM  

b04155: redmid17: $100 dollars is a lot of money, and Elway isn't stupid.

Side bet or something?


Millions of side bets apparently.
 
2012-03-19 04:58:48 PM  

robsul82: GreatGlavinsGhost: Yup and now the fans don't have to wait for less than 5 minutes to go before the game to get interesting.

At least we'll still be able to use the IT'S TEBOW TIME!!!!!11 graphics when it's 5:00 4th in the Jags games this year.


Is it official yet? Or is Tebow a Jaguar only on on-line fantasy teams?
 
2012-03-19 04:58:55 PM  
Larry Holder of CBS Sports points out the current PS pic of Peyton in a Denver jersey is Peyton's head on Captain Neckbeard's body.
 
2012-03-19 04:59:39 PM  
I think the real question is which team will Brent Favre be playing for this year?
 
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